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Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« on: July 21, 2009, 05:21:09 pm »
for a coming project, which do you prefer, fiber or twisted pair?  distance between two buildings is roughly 82 meters.  hindi po pwede ibaon yung mga cables, bale hanging or suspended ang siste so pls add that into consideration.  likewise, if id be using cat 6 for my run cable or fiber between the switches located in the two buildings, and cat 5e for my switch to workstation, would that pose a problem?  dagdag na rin kung anong brand maganda, belden po ba saka exact model nung mga cables.  ano ba difference nung plenum, jacketed, etc? 

tama rin po ba ang feedback na madali masira yung sa terminating ends ng fiber optic and yun daw ang mahal.

dagdag ko lang, mga 60 connected workstations kami ngayon running mixed speed from 10 and 100 mbps.  future expansion, aabot hanggang 100 workstations with our new units capable of running 1 GB.

dami ko tanong, ha ha ha.  TIA.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 05:40:30 pm »
Pwede ba mag apply assistant mo. Ang alam ko lang sa networking yung pag network ng pc sa shop, simpleng simple lang. Gusto ko sana ng experience sa pad network pag maraming workstation na. Serious ako ah. :) Kahit minimum wage ayos lang, wait nasa pinas ka ba? :)
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 06:16:40 pm »
har har har, may biglang nag-apply, he he he.  sensya na bro, hindi ako top management para i-hire ka, he he he.  saka wala opening, not unless si *********** ang apply.  pero may ibang dress code para sa kanya.  dapat birthday suit siya pag papasok, :)  ;D  laffman::  toast::

seriously bro, tignan ko kung may makita ako opening for you, timbre ko sa iyo.  yes, PINAS po ako.

back to topic, kailangan ko expertiise ng mga GURUs natin dito.  alam ko nagpapainit lng sila ng makina, tapos blast away na.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 07:19:36 pm »

For the interconnection of the two building I would recommend fiber rather than CAT6. CAT6 operates in higher frequency therefore susceptible to noise (since it will be used aerial outdoor). Also consider the height and distance of the building since you will be using aerial cable (the wear and tear of the cable). You might be interested in going wireless for your backbone. Wireless is reliable. There is no issue if you use CAT5e for your horizontal distribution. BELDEN is good since it offers higher specs than the standard cable. You may also consider PANDUIT or if you want lifetime warranty use CLIPSAL Titanium.

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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 07:26:18 pm »
im not sure kung advisable ang fiber pag aerial.. alam ko mas better sya pagbinaon.. pro kung may budget nman, go go go sa fiber optic..  ::pampam
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 09:33:17 pm »
You mentioned 82 meters.  Did you already include the housekeeping with this measurement? For me, it's too risky for this kind of distance. If you have the budget, just go for the fiber optic runs. If you can't put this underground, just make sure you place it in an enclosed cable tray. A good brand is SIMONS. Good luck with your project.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:36 pm »
mas maganda nga pag fiber optic, o try mo rin yong point to point na wireless antenna.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 10:47:23 pm »
Quote from: hockeyblood on July 21, 2009, 09:33:17 pm
You mentioned 82 meters.  Did you already include the housekeeping with this measurement? For me, it's too risky for this kind of distance. If you have the budget, just go for the fiber optic runs. If you can't put this underground, just make sure you place it in an enclosed cable tray. A good brand is SIMONS. Good luck with your project.

yep, 82 meters.  meron na kasi existing run dun and if i minus the numbers end to end, it says 87 meters.  but i'll be relocating one switch, thus 82 po ang kalalabasan.  working naman yung 87 meters, although may bottle-neck na at isang lan port lng papuntang server, 100 mbps speed, tapos medyo madami na clients accessing database.

parang hindi ata kaya enclosed cable tray at idadaan siya sa "messenger wire" ata tawag dun, he he he.

additional inputs badly needed.  maybe you can point me to a site with a similar set-up.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 09:04:45 am »
Quote from: lyer on July 21, 2009, 10:31:36 pm
mas maganda nga pag fiber optic, o try mo rin yong point to point na wireless antenna.


82 meters outside? Ill recommend mag wireless point to point nalang kayo.  ;)

Sa indoor naman I personally dont like cat5 cables. Im using cat 6 cables dito samen sa lahat.  ;D ;D  ;D
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 10:46:39 am »
sir ok lang kahit hindi fiber pero depende parin kung ano dadaan dun sa link mo sir... in my opinion mas prefer ko ang cat 5e kesa sa cat 6 why? kasi mas standard ang cat 5e at merong pang ibang devices na hindi gumagana ng maayos sa cat 6 sir naka gigabit speeds na po ba lahat ng equips kasi kung hindi naman sir masasayang lang yung purpose ng cat 6.

sa brand naman sir check adckrone structured cabling solution

http://www13.adc.com/adc/sitemaster/default.asp

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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 05:21:39 pm »
currently, mga 30 percent ang capable of gigabit speed tapos 70 percent 10/100 mbps pa lang.  project ko in the next 3 years yung 70 percent babagsak sa 40 percent na lang which will also be replaced by gigabit after another 3 years.  bale 6 years projected gigabit na lahat.  dami pa kasi ikakabit sa network, ip-camera, ip-pabx, etc.   
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 09:31:40 pm »
if you have the money to spend, then go fiber. pwede ang fiber kahit aerial yan (depende sa kukunin mo na klase). nagpaquote ako dati ng fiber pero ang mahal grabe. ang switch palang to convert fiber to PC connection, wala na suko na ako (it was more than 80K)

then ang per meter ng fiber costs around 1500 per meter. so kahit na mga tipong 50 meters lang ang distance gagastos na ng mga more than 200K. too expensive

the advantage? kahit malayo yan no loss sa signal. pero the question is is it really worth it? are you really that in need of lossless signal?

hindi naman ganun ka importante ang network namin sa ngayon so opted for regular cat5e nalang muna

as mentioned, for now I prefer cat5e than cat6 since going cat6 entails upgrading existing hardware. sayang naman mag cat6 pero ang hardware mo hindi naman kaya ang speed ng cat6, mapapamahal ka lang

maybe in the future, upgrade nalang. the important thing is right now may existing network and it serves the purpose
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 03:54:46 am »
Mag wireless point-to-point ka nalang,
malaki ang diperensya sa budget ng wireless vs. fiber.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 12:29:00 pm »
salamat sa inputs guys, medyo meron na ako naiisip na maganda based sa mga feedback.  will just update you all pag start na project.
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Re: Go Fiber or Twisted Pair?
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 01:50:18 am »
pwede ba CAT6 for connecting DSL modem & wireless router? is there any issues?
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