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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2009, 09:43:29 am »
The office name is Metro Manila Development Authority.  Is "development" just concerned with traffic? Napaka kitid naman ng utak natin kung we equate "development" with pedestrian lanes, u-turn slots or traffic rules.  The traffic signalling system obtained from Australia is already an advanced system yet those ubiquitous MMDA people don't even observe those traffic lights and prefer to conduct traffic themselves when they were not even trained for such work.  To confine himself with such parochial issues would reflect the kind of administration under a Fernando presidency. 

What MMDA should have done is create a long term development plan for the whole Metro Manila taking into account demographics, human traffic and economics.  What would Metro Manila look like fifty years from now?  Where will they allow factories or light manufacturing industries to be built? Are there zoning policies?  Where will the oil depot be located?  How and where will they direct liquid waste?  Are there policies on building designs?  What are the road plans twenty years from now when vehicle population would be about five times what we have now?  These are some of the issues Mr. Fernando should be discussing with the mayors and working it out with them.  If he can not even work well with local mayors, how can he work out with mayors from various municipalities all over the country?  Politics is addition.  You can not just impose your ideas without considering the local psyche or the cultural nuances of every locality.  Even a legislator has to get approvals from his peers before he can even have his bills calendared for discussion.  Note that hindi lang sya ang magaling or meron ideas that needs to be heard or expressed.  It is his job to synthesize all the ideas and make a decision that balances all the concerns of the community.

Hindi pwedeng sabihin na "action" lang ng "action".  Kailangan meron direction ang aksyon na gagawin.  Every "action" has to conform to a long-term development plan.  Kasi bawat "action" na ginagawa eh binabayaran ng taong bayan ang gastusin duon and the result of any act that Fernando does will affect Metro Manilans.  Besides, at this point, wala syang stand on national issues. How can you gauge his mentality and predict his future acts if we do not know where he stands on reproductive health, ancestral domain, oil price increase, summary executions, VFA or even the cheaper medicine bill that affects most Metro Manilans.

i agree dun sa nihighlight ko

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2009, 11:03:11 am »
Manny Villar or BF lang iboboto ko.

andami niyo namang alam bakit hindi kayo magpatupad ng mga sinasabi niyo.  laffman:

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2009, 03:00:23 pm »
ang mahirap kasi sa mga pilipino, ayaw mag pa-disiplina at matigas ang ulo. pag may magdidisiplina sa kanila, masama ang tao na yun. and number one cause ng traffic sa edsa is yung mga busses, biglang liko dito, biglang liko doon. naglagay ng barrier para disiplinahin yung mga busses, and mga umuuwi ng lasing ang mga tumatama sa mga barriers. ang mga umaabang sa gitna ng kalsada at tumatawid sa edsa at commonwealth, pag nasagasaan, kasalanan pa ng sasakyan. eh sino kasi may sabi tumawid ka ng edsa o sa commonwealth, kaya nga may tawiran. ang napansin ko ngayong panahon eh lahat ng tao ay gagawin ang gusto nila without thinking of the consequence or kung may maaabalang ibang tao. basta gusto ko gagawin ko, yan ang napansin ko sa mga tao ngayon. bayani fernando accomplished what other mayors failed in, a former tambakan ng bangkay city to a clean a disciplined city. natawa nga ako nung binalita nila na nagrereklamo ung mga jeep operators dahil tinaasan nila yung mga penalty fines, simple lang naman solution dun eh... sumunod ka. yun lang yun. kaya sila nagrereklamo kasi ayaw nila ma-disiplina.at one point i agree though sa paglalagay nya ng mga posters nya, naasar din ako nung nakita ko, but i believe bayani can make a difference. iboboto ko siya. (lahat ng ito ay opinion ko, at may karapatan po ako sa opinion ko) salamat sa pag basa mga kapatid at mabuhay ang espiya
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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2009, 03:03:28 pm »
i agree dun sa nihighlight ko


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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2009, 05:00:38 pm »
put it simply: the fact that 12 million people in Metro Manila is not in a state of chaos, despite the non-cooperation of some mayors with the MMDA to put things in order, is a testament to BF's accomplishments and political will.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2009, 05:24:56 pm »
All I know is before he was MMDA chairman, my drive from UP diliman to SM fairview via Commonwelt was almost 2 hours because of traffic... now its only 40 mins to 1 hour... I think thats a vast improvement from before don't you think... please also try to see the good things that he has done, we all know thats he's not perfect but he's also not that bad... He has improved a lot of things, masyado lang nag fofocus sa mga maling nagawa... just my 2 cents


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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2009, 06:00:11 pm »
ang mahirap kasi sa mga pilipino, ayaw mag pa-disiplina at matigas ang ulo. pag may magdidisiplina sa kanila, masama ang tao na yun. and number one cause ng traffic sa edsa is yung mga busses, biglang liko dito, biglang liko doon. naglagay ng barrier para disiplinahin yung mga busses, and mga umuuwi ng lasing ang mga tumatama sa mga barriers. ang mga umaabang sa gitna ng kalsada at tumatawid sa edsa at commonwealth, pag nasagasaan, kasalanan pa ng sasakyan. eh sino kasi may sabi tumawid ka ng edsa o sa commonwealth, kaya nga may tawiran. ang napansin ko ngayong panahon eh lahat ng tao ay gagawin ang gusto nila without thinking of the consequence or kung may maaabalang ibang tao. basta gusto ko gagawin ko, yan ang napansin ko sa mga tao ngayon. bayani fernando accomplished what other mayors failed in, a former tambakan ng bangkay city to a clean a disciplined city. natawa nga ako nung binalita nila na nagrereklamo ung mga jeep operators dahil tinaasan nila yung mga penalty fines, simple lang naman solution dun eh... sumunod ka. yun lang yun. kaya sila nagrereklamo kasi ayaw nila ma-disiplina.at one point i agree though sa paglalagay nya ng mga posters nya, naasar din ako nung nakita ko, but i believe bayani can make a difference. iboboto ko siya. (lahat ng ito ay opinion ko, at may karapatan po ako sa opinion ko) salamat sa pag basa mga kapatid at mabuhay ang espiya

I totally agree with you, halos lahat kasi reklamador e. Kung sumunod sila sa batas wala sanang problema. And  BF is definitely the man kasi Disciplinarian sya. Tapos sinisiraan lang nila si BF kasi ayaw nila ng Desiplina. Yung mga kalaban sa pulitiko ayaw sa kanya kasi alam nila na simula na ng kanilang katapusan sa pangungurakot. Opinion ko ha. walang kokontra!

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2009, 06:36:49 pm »
ako hndi.. di nga niya maayos ayos ung c-5 lagi nia iniiwasan..
panu panay u-turn nia lagi.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2009, 07:58:33 pm »
Totoo marami ngang reklamador na Pinoy, pero sa tingin ko lang e may difference sa Disciplinarian, at sa Megalomaniac / Fascist.

Madaming fault yung u-turn scheme (most especially the contradicting idea that it's set in the FAST LANE) pero tinulak pa rin ni Bayani despite that and glaring safety concerns (pedestrians). Gagamitin ko yung Katipunan avenue as an example. School zone po iyun. Even if the main issue is Rush Hour Traffic, it's still a school zone and the safety of the students (grade school/high school even college students) should also be a concern.

What Bayani did was he removed the pedestrian lane and banned tricycles from crossing over to the other side. Did it solve the rush hour traffic? A bit. However it created a lot more problems, particularly for commuters and pedestrians. What's more, the u-turn scheme makes it especially hazardous to vehicles making a U-turn. With cars barreling towards you at 90KPH, nakakatakot mag-uturn, lalo na at nasa FAST LANE ka.

Later on the u-turn slots became very congested, because it was only a single lane. So what did Bayani do? He made it two lanes. Solution found. However, it created another problem: bottlenecking. Now fast cars have to break quickly (because they are on the fast lanes) because there's a bottleneck around the u-turn scheme (ganito din sa EDSA/Roxas Blvd u-turn slot).

A "solution" he implemented was to constantly move the u-turn slots around. This only made it a bit worse because now you can't predict where they are if you haven't driven there for a while.


If the main concern was Rush Hour Traffic, he sure did his job in handling that....by ignoring other important issues (pedestrians, and general road safety)

Sa MOA u-turn slot, ang mga jeep e kumakain ng hanggang 3 lanes para lang mag-u-turn. That's swerving!

Concerning the trees: ewan ko kung sarcastic yung nag-quote sakin, pero oo dapat natin mahalin ang puno.

Not only do they provide shade, pinapaganda ang lugar. Bayani defied the DENR (how's that for following the law?) by uprooting and replanting (if e ever did, and it was not done according to the law) old trees that lined White Plains and Katipunan Avenue. Despite legal protests from both youth activist groups and the DENR, Bayani moved the trees during the MORNINGS (usually at 3-5AM). That seems not only fascist pero parang patago na e. He not only ignored the people he's serving, he did it in a subservient way.

So what was the reason for removing the trees? To improve traffic. Certainly the 2m that 9each island consumed is enoughfor a car to go through, he thinks. BUT, later on he placed concrete barriers to replace them. (?!?!?!?!)

Now the once-scenic EDSA/White Plains route is a barren short expanse of road with ugly concrete barriers in the middle. He placed a u-turn slot in the middle, so now there is a bottleneck of two lanes that are completely useless because the cars don't bother returning to the middle lane on such a short road.

Here's another issue: Bayani's road Signs.

Who thought that PINK and WHITE make the best color contrast? Kahit 20 meters away e hindi pa rin mabasa ng drivers yung karatula e. The international standard is either dark green with white letters (good contrast, easy to read) or dark blue and white (same thing)

Bayani Fernando might be an authoritarian and a guy who "can make things happen", pero grabe naman, pag-aralan muna nya yung gagawin nya bago nya gawin.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2009, 08:47:48 pm »
Madaming kasi sa atin tulad ni gkhan na napakadaming alam pero puro reklamo at wala naman ginagawa para matuwid ang sinasabi nilang mali. Kumbaga, latang walang laman. Maingay.

Maging positibo po tayo sa lahat ng bagay. Huwag natin ibali-wala ang mga nagawa ng ating mga tagapamahala. Oo, maraming kulang at maraming mali pero hindi nangangahulugan walang nagawa o napakasamang tao.


Hey senyor, even if you read what I wrote, wala akong reklamo. Kung anong ginagawa nya to solve traffic, thats fine.  But MMDA says in its office name na "development" and I don't equate solving traffic problems as developmental in nature.  By the looks of it, Fernando is trying to do a policeman job which is not what the office should be concerned with.  It must deal with policies and let local mayors do the implementing work.  Parang BSP yan na gagawa lang ng policies and let the commercial banks do the transactions.  What is deplorable is his lack of understanding and appreciation of what his office must and should do and what it should concerned itself with. Development is encompassing so it should even coordinate with the tourism office; NEDA as it relates to income growth of the populace; architects with regards to urban planning; airport and port authorities and with DPWH with regards to road network planning.  It must be enterpreneurial in approach to certain work that involves funding.

Besides, you do not know me.  I have even talked about that on radio.  Pati nga design ng jeep, I even told that on the air kasi pinipilit nila na pang syam or pituhan daw ang nakaupo eh paano mo pagkakasyahin ang pitong tao sa isang hanay if ang katawan naman eh puro Dabiana.  I wrote some issues on national dailies just to prod their office to do something on some issues like pollution which is a concern of Metro Manilans.  Karamihan sa kanila sa MMDA eh puro motherhood statements mga sinasabi about issues that they have to concern themselves with but wala naman kongkretong steps na ginagawa.  Para na lang bang traffic lang ang problema ng Metro Manila.

Now, if meron tayong dapat gawin na sa palagay mo eh dapat gawin eh tell me at gawin natin together.  Don't expect me to do it alone. Di naman ako pulitiko.  Parang gusto mo na ako ang gagawa nuon eh hindi naman ako Presidente or senador kaya.  Ikaw kaya, ano naman ang ginawa mo na para sa bayan?

Saka para yatang you've got some beef on me.  Parang I can feel na napakalaki ng galit or inggit mo sa akin.  Grow up, young man.


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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2009, 08:47:58 pm »
@emwangarand's Here's another issue: Bayani's road Signs. -

Para sa tao po ang pink signs. Ngayon nagkamali po kayo, pakiamin po at pakisabi na napaka-epiktibo ng kulay. Hindi talaga mababasa ng mga motorista ang Pink signs kasi hindi talaga para sa kanila yun. "BAWAL TUMAWID" tumatawid ba ang kotse?

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2009, 08:55:51 pm »
@gkhan's 1st point - I believe there was a news article posted in the MMDA website about MMDA's limitations. Look for articles posted not more than a year ago.

2nd - And I'm Bayani Fernando. You brought it up. Could you be more specific? Where and when?

3rd - So you threw a boomerang?

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2009, 09:11:51 pm »
as 2fear said...i'll vote him for senator..but not vice-prez nor president...but between him and Mar Roxas...i'll take Bayani... toast::

off topic: i wonder why Chiz is so silent these days????

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2009, 09:10:50 pm »
Si sir BF lang ang tingin ko walang pagbabago mula nung una syang makilala bilang mayor ng marikina hanggang ngaun...kakainis ang programa ni BF kung ikaw ung tipong tao na gustong kumita kahit na nakakaperwisyo sa nakararami..pero kung iintindihin mo lamang, mare-realize mong un ay may pangkalahatan at pangmatagalan kabutihan..

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2009, 11:55:49 pm »
Agree ako sa karamihan sa inyo. Dun sa nagsabi na walang kaplano-Plano ang MMDA, do ata tama yun. Obviously, strategic yung ginagawang pagbabago ni BF. Marami lang talagang pasaway sa kalsada at kahit simpleng pagsunod sa lane di pa magawa. Yun ang dahilan kaya lalong nagiging traffic. Issue rin yung road widening kasi marami sa tin sinasakop pati kalsada, pag tinignan mo naman titulo ng lupa nila kapiranggot lang yung kanila. Dapat nga mag-senador muna siya..

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2009, 09:04:31 pm »
i guess he is one of the best, if not the best, qualified administrators in the government, but pervasive rumors of his greed and his "kickbacks" are astounding and are quite discomforting.......Rumors have alwasys been consistent that Fernando amassed/ammases wealth by cornering most government infrastructure projects (of Marikina and MMDA) and giving them to his construction firm.........

.....and As they say, if there's smoke, there must be some barbeque.  ;) ;D

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2009, 09:17:14 pm »


NO OFFENSE!hindi ko siya iboboto dahil tuta cya ni gma...natural lang ayusin nya ang kamaynilaan dahil cya ang nakaupo sa pwesto at malaki ng pondo ng MMDA..



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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2009, 04:04:03 am »
Kung may pagkakataon lang ako makaboto sya pipiliin ko dahil na rin sa mga nagawa nya tulad sa Marikina.

Kayo iboboto nyo ba si BF?

mas ok naman sya kesa sa ibang politiko atleast si BF kumikilos & nagtatratrabaho di gaya ng iba walang ginagawa kundi mangurakot lang...


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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2009, 04:33:26 am »
One thing BF did to sum it all up in Marikina which still many Filipinoes don't have..

INSTILL DISCIPLINE..

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2009, 06:58:51 am »
ako iboboto ko si Bayani Fernando, hindi siya tulad ng ibang politiko na walang ginawa kundi ang magsalita, sa lahat ng naging MMDA chairman, siya ang may pinakitang RESULTA, maraming galit sa kanya dahil hindi siya nagtatago sa "safe side" tulad ng maraming politiko, meron siyang PANININDIGAN hindi tulad ng maraming politiko na balimbing. Hindi lang siya puro salita kitang kita na merong GAWA. Oo nga may mga natapakang side walk vendors atbp. pero ang mga ito naman ang sumuway sa batas in the first place, diba nga ang bangketa ay daanan, so hindi pwede ang kahit anong harang dito.
Kung siya ang mamumuno sa ating bansa, makakapag-implement siya ng disiplina, at ang disiplinang ito ay ang susi ng kaunlaran. Kung tingnan niyo ang mga maunlad na bansa dito sa Asya, kung tutuusin kapantay lang naman natin sila sa sipag at talino, pero lamang sila sa DISIPLINA.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2009, 02:12:58 am »
eto boboto ko!  ;)

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2009, 07:07:58 am »

NO OFFENSE!hindi ko siya iboboto dahil tuta cya ni gma...natural lang ayusin nya ang kamaynilaan dahil cya ang nakaupo sa pwesto at malaki ng pondo ng MMDA..

bakit, mali ba yun? ano ba gusto mong ginagawa ng mga pulitiko natin? uupo lang at manonood?

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2009, 10:32:18 pm »
mga taga marikina dito,mga 3x pa lg ako napunta marikina - hanga ako sa place malinis,maganda but i hate yung ruta ng jip mga bro - dami pasikot sikot ung byahe na kya 10mins from point a to point b ei nagiging 30mins ei.....pati kaliit-liiting kalsada gnawang semi - hi way.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2009, 04:22:29 am »
What he needs is a good platform. And good PR. Sana naman huwag silang kumuha ng PR manager na pagmumukhain silang traditional politician.

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Re: Bayani Fernando
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2009, 08:46:22 am »
malabo na manalo to as President next election...



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