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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2009, 10:44:01 am »
tama ka nga may talent talaga sila... buti nlang hindi lahat ng ka espiya mga haters... lols... para sa akin kung hindi nio gus2 eh wag nio na panoorin or pakinggan... at sana maging proud kyo sa naabot nila kahit na hindi man kayo tagahanga dahil PINOY din sila... ma Appreciate nio manlang sana yung hirap at pagpupursigi nila para maabot nila yung naabot nila ngyon... 

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2009, 10:46:29 am »
Charice is still young.  In time she will be the person you look up to.  I don't like her music too, but still we should be proud of what she has achieved as compared to other Local Talents who has been singing Original Compositions (as Doc Albert's standard of a true artist) but still end-up sa kangkungan. 

As with Arnel Pineda, he is indeed superb in being the lead singer of Journey.  Filipinos often mistake Arnel Pineda as Arnel Pineda the Solo Artist (just as Doc Albert presumed). Completely wrong.  Arnel Pineda is only associated with the Band JOURNEY.  The accolade always belong to the Band but Arnel receives most of the applause. And that is what we are proud of. Another filipino in the personality of Arnel Pineda being acclaimed as a great singer of the band Journey.

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2009, 10:55:55 am »
    Ayus Sir GanabY... galing mo!!
    eto po mga ka espiya... sana pakinggan nio mabuti yung lyrics...
 ...Ayoko lang talga ng mga pinoy na Talangka...

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2009, 11:01:49 am »
Kahit naman hindi Pilipino, walang dahilan para pag isipan mo ng negatibo ang isang tao na nagsusumikap at wala naman ginagawang masama.

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2009, 11:31:09 am »
Tama ka din dyan 123kid... tanong ko lang bakit kaya may mga ganong tao ano? psychological ba yan?

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2009, 12:10:58 pm »
like what i have said let him live his life of criticism wag na po natin masyado ipersonal ang threadstarter ::dontflame


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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2009, 12:27:48 pm »
kahit walang sikat na kababayan ko sa ibang bansa proud ako na PINOY AKO

lahi ng mga matatapang at bayani..

wala na ako paki sa sabihin na negative tungkol sa mga kababayan ko.

basta ako MASARAP MAGING PINOY

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2009, 02:49:47 pm »
Charice Pempengco... well, si Oprah nga proud sa batang ire eh, dahil na-appreciate ni Oprah ang talent ng batang ire.. so what now if puro revive pa lang mga kanta ni charice ngayon? isa pa may Composer-producer si charice namely David Foster... nag uumpisa pa lang si charice intayin na lang natin mga susunod nyang album at tiyak may mga sarili na syang mga kanta doon..

"Charice will be the best talent you'll ever have"-David Foster


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Kinukutya na nga ng mga ibang foreigner si Charice pati pa ba naman tayo... supurtahan na lan natin sya and magrequest na lang tayo na gumawa sya ng sarili nyang kanta at inde puro revive...

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2009, 04:19:55 pm »
si arnel ok pa kaso itong si charise pandakekok ay napakayabang. one time kc napanood ko tv habang sakay sa bus, akalain mo ba namang sabihing noong araw daw nong di pa siya sikat eh nalulungkot daw siya at di masaya at nahihiya noong papunta sa abscbn dahil nakasakay siya sa isang pampasaherong jeep. :o teka, laki ba siya sa yaman? e eto ngang si arnel pineda proud pang sabihing isa siyang kariton boy noong araw. toast::

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2009, 04:45:08 pm »
http://worldofalbert.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-i-am-not-proud-of-arnel-pineda-and.html

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2009, 05:46:07 pm »
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   2. Flo Rida – "Right Round" (3:24)
   3. Lady Gaga – "Poker Face" (3:57)
   4. Pitbull – "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)" (3:01)
   5. Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain – "Blame It" (4:21)
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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #61 on: July 08, 2009, 08:59:28 pm »
http://worldofalbert.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-i-am-not-proud-of-arnel-pineda-and.html

sana matauhan mga taong naninira ng mga iba, kapwa pa pinoy ang tinitira! doctor pa naman din siya  smoking:: smoking:: smoking::

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #62 on: July 08, 2009, 09:12:34 pm »
I agree with doc albert.. sana makapgproduce tayo ng sariling atin yung sikat mismo dito tapos makikilala sa ibang bansa.. tulad ng rivermaya(medyo kapos pa nga kung tutuusin).. mas maganda talaga yung sarli nating composition at style mismo ang makikilala sa mundo.. hindi yung sumikat dahil sa tulong ibang bansa.. hindi naman kasi makikilala si Charice at Arnel eh kung walang kilalang tao ang nagpromote sa kanila atlhough hindi madedeny na may talent talaga sila..

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2009, 12:34:20 am »
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Don't get me wrong. I am happy for what they have achieved. But there is a thin line between being happy and being proud. As a music fan, I have always been critical about the feat of Arnel Pineda and Charice Pempengco. I see their accomplishments as unsatisfactory, if not reeking cheap imitation of other foreign artists. Add to the fact that I am quite disturbed on Filipinos' penchant for over gratification about anything that is characteristically tacky, shallow, and short-lived. This is not a case of crab mentality. Maybe it is just my nature to strive for excellence  and originality. Because of this, I really find it hard to be proud of two Filipinos strongly regarded in their country as "international superstars" when in fact, he and she are just singing other people's songs.

this is the reason why our country wont strive as a better country

the threadstarter don't exhibit a crab mentality behavior but rather a criticism towards the two singers if you read his comment you will understand so even Freddie Aguilar comments in PEP exhibit a crab mentality behavior based on you opinion

all he wants is they must create their own original music that's all. Where is the crab mentality thing??

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2009, 12:55:59 am »
Magkaiba naman ang pagiging singer sa pagiging composer, madaming singer jan na never naka pag compose ng original nilang kanta pero hindi ibig sabihin less talented sila as a singer, less talented lang sila as a composer or hindi pa lang nila nasusubukan magsulat ng sarili nilang kanta. Hindi din naman ibig sabihin na pag yung singer mismo nagcompose ng kanta nya eh ibig sabihin maganda agad ang labas, bihira ang magaling na na singer magaling pa na composer like Ogie Alcasid, Babyface, etc.

About sa originals naman ni Arnel Pineda malabo mangyari yun hangang nasa Journey sha, I doubt na binibigyan sha ng malaking creative control about the songs dahil dapat ang tunog ng kanta eh pang Journey so restricted sha sa sense na yun. Yung kay Charice naman (never been a fan pero I give credit to her talent) I think it's by design na songs from Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, etc. ang pinkakanta sa kanya since her youtube days to showcase her powerful voice. As for her originals, i'm not sure kung may isa na sha or dalawa (still not composed by her yata) pero I still consider her a starting artist, nakailang album ba ang mymp bago ngkaron sila ng original na kanta?

I'm not saying their the best, pero hindi din sila ang worst, ang daming artist na bigla nalang nagalalabasan sa myx or mtv na magugulat ka nalang dahil ikaw mismo sa sarili mo may alam ka na mas talented na artist sa kanila pero hindi naman mabigyan bigyan ng break.

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2009, 01:00:31 am »


sa America kapag sinabihan mo pangit ang make-up nila pasasalamatan kapa nila. Sa pinas kapag sinabi mo yan tyak pag-iisipan kapa ng masama na inggit ka lang or pangit nito

sabi ng isang taga-cambodia na hindi mo ma-critize ng diretso ang mga Asian kase para sa kanila insulto yun pero sa europe e kapag nag-criticize sila or sinabihan ka na mali ka or dika magaling normal sa kanila yun



Hmmmmmmm...Stereotyping?

Don't generalize please. How sure are you that they are better when it comes to accepting criticisms?

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2009, 01:15:58 am »
im not stereotyping. i just cant stand Charice. she's got no appeal. she has her mini concert in Greenbelt and i've got a feeling that all her relatives sat to watch to fill the crowd.else, lalangawin sya din. she sounds like a videoke machine about to break. well, she's a good front for business that is why her managers take advantage of her "international sensation".

no comment for Arnel.

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2009, 02:10:50 am »
this is the reason why our country wont strive as a better country

the threadstarter don't exhibit a crab mentality behavior but rather a criticism towards the two singers if you read his comment you will understand so even Freddie Aguilar comments in PEP exhibit a crab mentality behavior based on you opinion

all he wants is they must create their own original music that's all. Where is the crab mentality thing??

sa America kapag sinabihan mo pangit ang make-up nila pasasalamatan kapa nila. Sa pinas kapag sinabi mo yan tyak pag-iisipan kapa ng masama na inggit ka lang or pangit nito

sabi ng isang taga-cambodia na hindi mo ma-critize ng diretso ang mga Asian kase para sa kanila insulto yun pero sa europe e kapag nag-criticize sila or sinabihan ka na mali ka or dika magaling normal sa kanila yun



The thread starter judged both artists using criterions different from what the artists' claim to be. Simply put, you can't say a foot-young tree is not as hard as a fully grown tree. In Arnel's case, you can't say pencils don't work well as an alternative for sitaw as an ingredient of sinigang because in the first place, its shouldn't to be.

Think of motive.


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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2009, 02:54:41 am »
charice pempengco - ok na sana ang talent kaso yung mga taong pumapaligid sa kanya eh pinipilit siya na kantahin yung di na nya kayang kantahin.


arnel pineda - it is a privilege for the band journey na maging vocalist nila. we should be proud of him.. alam nyo naman mga pilipino, panahon pa ng kastila papa-alipin na sa mga amerikano. nasa dugo na natin yan. pero kung makakagawa si arnel ng kanta na pinoy. (meaning tagalog ang lyrics) at tutugtugin nila. maybe we can be more proud of him.


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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2009, 03:17:34 am »
im not stereotyping. i just cant stand Charice. she's got no appeal. she has her mini concert in Greenbelt and i've got a feeling that all her relatives sat to watch to fill the crowd.else, lalangawin sya din. she sounds like a videoke machine about to break. well, she's a good front for business that is why her managers take advantage of her "international sensation".

no comment for Arnel.


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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2009, 04:36:54 am »
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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2009, 05:14:33 am »
basta ako i di talaga ako bilid sa dalawang taong yan di ko talaga trip lahat ng songs na kinakanta nila sabi nga pinoy are great imitators mas lalo lang pinatunayan ng dalawang taong yan kung ano tayo. basta ako proud noypi parin ako i dont sa kanilang kasikatan ngayon proud paba sila na pinoy sila o bumaliktad na! ako sa tingin nyo mga espiyas?

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2009, 07:53:29 am »
basta ako i di talaga ako bilid sa dalawang taong yan di ko talaga trip lahat ng songs na kinakanta nila sabi nga pinoy are great imitators mas lalo lang pinatunayan ng dalawang taong yan kung ano tayo. basta ako proud noypi parin ako i dont sa kanilang kasikatan ngayon proud paba sila na pinoy sila o bumaliktad na! ako sa tingin nyo mga espiyas?

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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2009, 08:02:07 am »
basta ako i di talaga ako bilid sa dalawang taong yan di ko talaga trip lahat ng songs na kinakanta nila sabi nga pinoy are great imitators mas lalo lang pinatunayan ng dalawang taong yan kung ano tayo. basta ako proud noypi parin ako i dont sa kanilang kasikatan ngayon proud paba sila na pinoy sila o bumaliktad na! ako sa tingin nyo mga espiyas?


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Re: Why I Am Not Proud Of Arnel Pineda And Charice Pempengco
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2009, 08:05:31 am »
ganyan ba talaga tayong mga pinoy....

kung may magsasabi na bilib ako sa kanya... sumusunod yung iba... bilib din sila....

pero pag may magsasabi na di ako bilib sa kanya... ayun lipat sa kabila... di rin daw sila bibilib...

nung pinanuod natin si charice at arnel sa youtube...  

ang sayasaya natin kasi sumikat ang pinoy... tapos ngayun... sinisiraan na!

napapansin nga ng dayuhan yung talento ng mga taong ito... tayo pa kaya na walang talent?

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talagang masasabi mo na magaling sila!