Topic: ROTC / military trainng for college students... makatulong ba?

[asanti]

Yong ROTC ba makatulong para sa ikalakas ng depensa natin

[Zornhau]

Yes..

Additional, trained manpower for our Armed Forces should there be need for them.

[Kurimasu]

Sila ang magiging reserved forces kung sakaling makigyera ang pilipinas at magkulang ang hukbong sandataan ng pilipinas...

[vonfritz888]

depende sa course poh.... pro para sa akin malaking tulong ito...

[ice07man]

I think so pero dapat light training lang kase ung ibang officers masyado silang power trip pinagtritripan ung mga cadets...

[Master Dave]

It helps the students themselves.. it teaches them discipline, respect and obedience.. all those traits, sad to say, are slowly disappearing in today's youth..

[presario]

i took my rotc @ mapua... natulungan kong yumaman ung mga opisyal dun sa pamamagitan ng pagkain ng siopao at pag inom ng coke...... bukod dun tlgang waste of time lang......

[MiKeDaCuTe]

nakatulong din sa mga nagbebenta ng uniform, patches, rifle na kahoy, combat shoes...
nakatulong din sa mga barbero bawal kasi mahaba ang buhok...
nakatulong din sa mga officer na naguutos na bumili ng meryenda...
nakatulong din sa mga naiambag na contributions...
nakatulong din sa mga janitor kasi di kagad tumutubo ang damo sa ground kasi maghapon ka nakatayo sa initan
nakatulong din dahil nalaman mo ang tungtong kanan, lakad patakda, squat, drop like a log and then roll at kung anuanong parusa...
natutunan mo tumayo sa initan ng maghapon...
at ang huli, nakatulong ka sa school kasi sa dagdag tuition na ibinayad mo sa ROTC...


at ano nakuha at natutunan mga cadets? meron o wala? di mo nga alam meaning ng ROTC.. 

(Reserve Officers Training Corps po  )

[Zornhau]

Reservists may lend their time through above. They also take part in disaster relief, med missions and may see combat to secure fellow reservists on mission or augment Combat groups.

[jpetrucci_02]

Mas nakakatuLong sana ito kung waLa itong bayad.  Hehe.   

[rydhel1016]

naalala ko tuloy yung sa pugad baboy strip. nung boy scout sya, natuto syang gumawa ng apoy, magtali ng different kinds of knots, magtayo ng tent, etc etc.

Pero nung ROTC na, weh.

Saka, saka, hmmm, bat gusto pa nilang tumulong sa pagdepensa ng pinas eh kahit sinong sumugod satin, wala laban pinas sa gamit. Or better yet, mag backdoor na lang yung kalaban sa mga nakaupo sa malacanang.

[cpo]

I guess sa intra- and inter-personal skills development, nkakatulong sya.

But for defense, force augmentation, search and rescue, etc. depende ata sa unit at posisyon kung papaano at ano yung naging training nila.

Sa amin, para sa mga non-officer level e magiging for target practice lang ata sa mga kalaban. Parade and Review lng ang 90% sa 2 years training namin 

Sa mga officer level medyo ok yung training nila. Problema lng e, medyo mahangin yung iba at parang maiihi ata pg ngputukan na o kaya ang unang tatakbo palayo .

[nald]

ang alam ko kasi sa ibang bansa kapag isa kang reserve ikaw ang binabayaran at ikaw ang pinagaaral nila...

tapos lahat ng mga gamit, sila ang magbibigay sayo...

so para sa akin isa lang tong pagsasayang ng oras...

dapat optional lang to dahil binabayaran mo ang pagaaral mo.
kung wala namang kinalaman sa tatapusin mong kurso ang pagbibilad sa araw habang may hawak hawak na parte ng puno bakit mo gagawin...

imbis na yung pera pangdagdag sa baon mo o kaya pangdagdag sa pambayad sa exams napupunta lang sa uniporme at badge na wala namang katuturan.

[Master Of Disaster (m.d)]

Not directly but it will give our students idea how to handle military scenario and it will give discipline the military way!


 

[BangBoy]

I agree that ROTC should be free and not just free the government should shoulder the budget for military training. For those of you gay people who think NSTP should be placed in favor of ROTC I would like to ask you this question. What would you learn from NSTP? Ballroom dancing every sunday? When war comes and it should at least once in your lifetime what will you do? You are most likely be the ones who get a bunch of his comrades killed because he doesn't know how to fire a gun or doesn't want to be in the line of fire because he forgot his sunblock. People think that ROTC is perfect marching and discipline. This is because we derive our ROTC from america. Land of the FREE and home of the GAY. In the middle east and Israel it is real combat training. In fact Miss Israel would probably beat the best Filipino soldier in hand to hand or weapons combat. Men and Women render mandatory military service when they are 18 here we are just taught how to march and do it in perfect timing. ROTC should have been a tool to make men out of men. ROTC should be about survival. Here in the Philippines ROTC is about pondering if this belt buckle is shiny?, if my shoes are spotless, if I should wear make up and laced underwear with this green uniform. Damn I'm really worried why the GAY population who doesn't want ROTC is increasing. GOD SHOULD SEND A SECOND FLOOD. LETS SEE IF YOU SURVIVE.

[asanti]

I took up ROTC up to second class and i undergo advance training for one whole summer in the army reservist camp living the real military way in training ...  we are isued uniforms and go on mock patrols with a regular army guy as trainor for evry 11 man ranger team of cadets

i find it all satisfying but as u say it should be optional and all the gears to shouldered by the government, it made us appreciate the filipino soldiers and the hardship of military life but i would not suggest it to all college students
 

[WATCHER0413]

  For me, napakalaking tulong ng ROTC sa kabataan especially sa paghubog ng disiplina. Yunamang sinasabing power trip ng mga officers ay acceptable para sa akin. Kung di nila gagawin yun ay di sila katatakutan ng mga kadete. Eh di walang saysay ang ROTC kung nagkaganun. And besides, di ka naman nila pagtitripan kung sumusunod ka sa tama. Pero kung lalamya-lamya at pasaway ka sa formation ay talagang mapaparusahan ka. Sana ibalik nila ang ROTC at CAT para matuto na uli ng disiplina ang mga kabataan.

  Tungkol naman sa dagdag bayad na inirereklamo ng iba, eto ang sagot ko-- Nakakagastos nga tayo ng malaki para sa inuman at gimik, bakit mo panghihinayangang Gastusan ang ROTC na nagtuturo ng disiplina at survival techniques. Peace to all.

[Idiot]

ROTC



honestly dahilan nila for reserve kung may invasion nag-reresearch ba sila ng current warfare

ang labanan ngayon aerial bombardment at cruise missile handa ba tayo sa mga ganun , ni mga eroplano natin donations lang 

ang nalaman ko lang sa ROTC

1. kumain ng sandwhich
2. magdonate ng dugo para may libreng absent
3. martsa ng konti
4. at umupo

malayo sa tunay na ROTC ng china at america

sa america may camp sila at may mock fighting sila dun

sa china dadalhin sila sa training camp for ilang linggo

sa Israel e isusugod ka nila sa gyera

sa Germany may part dun mag-drive ka ng howitzer tank mas maganda ROTC nila

sa atin wala

1.kung sana tinututruan tayo paano gumawa ng campo
2. kung paano magtago sa urban at jungle
3. tapos gumawa sila ng game yung natalo tatakbo sa campus na walang damit

at least masaya

[asanti]

meron naman pero sa mga advance cadets lang

me actual patrolling sa bundok
me live firing
me ambush tactics and jungle survival lecture

sana maranasan lahat ito ng mga estudyante para appreciate

pero mahirap na ngayon dahil maraming ng npa sa bundok baka magka mis encounter

[Zornhau]

Yes aerial bombardment at cruise missiles na ang labanan ngayon.. But still, if you are going to invade a country you will still need to put your soldiers on enemy territory to secure it. And that is when infantries step in to fight guerilla warfare style.

[Idiot]

@zero

kaso hindi naman tayo tinuturuan kung paano ang guerrilla warfare so useless din

pwede ang ROTC kung nationalistic at patriotic ang isang bansa

kaso baka pagdating ng mga mananakop bigyan lang ng konting luho e baka bumaligtad ang mga pinoy parang sa goverment e ang bilis bumaligatad

even sa Abroad mga pinoy binebenta ang mga kapwa pinoy

latest na reward sa immigration sa States e 1,200$ kung isusumbong mo ang isang TNT

[Zornhau]

^^^

I assure you not all Reservists are ignorant about hit and run tactics, ambushes and raids.

[gentledog]

Discipline and Camaraderie. Mga ka ROTC ko yung iba kaibigan ko pa rin hangang ngayon, kahit d ko mga barkada o classmate. Iba kasi pag naka experience ka ng ROTC eh. Kahit lasing attend pa rin...hehehe.....at ska yung mga officers na parang mga diyos noon ngayon officers pa rin, tinatawanan lang namin.

[gkhan]

Discipline and Camaraderie. Mga ka ROTC ko yung iba kaibigan ko pa rin hangang ngayon, kahit d ko mga barkada o classmate. Iba kasi pag naka experience ka ng ROTC eh. Kahit lasing attend pa rin...hehehe.....at ska yung mga officers na parang mga diyos noon ngayon officers pa rin, tinatawanan lang namin.

If we really want to earn the respect of other nations, we need to be militarily strong and stop relying on American promises of help in case of war or aggression.  Most may not feel it now but in Asia, it seems that the Philppines is the only country that does not have a real defense capability.  If at any time Malaysia or Indonesia wants to invade us, we do not even have a fighter jet or bomber or tank to put up a defense.  But then, we can start where we can be militarily strong and that is on our infantry and that is where ROTC training becomes imperative to both gals and guys.

The Philippines invented guerilla warfare when most of our countrymen did not surrender to the Japs in Bataan but instead, continued hitting the Japs behind enemy lines.  Hence, our ROTC should start jungle warfare training to all first year college students both male and female.  DepEd should see to it that corruption does not seep in so that the  ROTC training that only checks on shiny buckles would be a thing of the past.

[asanti]

If we really want to earn the respect of other nations, we need to be militarily strong and stop relying on American promises of help in case of war or aggression.  Most may not feel it now but in Asia, it seems that the Philppines is the only country that does not have a real defense capability.  If at any time Malaysia or Indonesia wants to invade us, we do not even have a fighter jet or bomber or tank to put up a defense.  But then, we can start where we can be militarily strong and that is on our infantry and that is where ROTC training becomes imperative to both gals and guys.

The Philippines invented guerilla warfare when most of our countrymen did not surrender to the Japs in Bataan but instead, continued hitting the Japs behind enemy lines.  Hence, our ROTC should start jungle warfare training to all first year college students both male and female.  DepEd should see to it that corruption does not seep in so that the  ROTC training that only checks on shiny buckles would be a thing of the past.

agree ako dyan bro....