Author Topic: How to Survive Heart Attack when Alone (Read 3614 times)

gshock2kph · « **on:** March 05, 2010, 02:13:03 pm »

I got this from my old email during cleaning and I hope this can help someone, just in case.....

How to Survive Heart Attack when Alone

sana makatulong...

gshock2kph · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2010, 02:14:53 pm »

eto po yung link ulit.

How to Survive Heart Attack when Alone

neckromancer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2010, 02:38:05 pm »

Disproved.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/homecure/coughcpr.asp

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4535

gshock2kph · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2010, 02:51:16 pm »

uy, salamat sir.

Although not entirely false information, pero meron pa rin silbi kahit konti.

Thanks for validating this claim.

renmazuo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2010, 10:30:34 pm »

hehehe! it's better to do anything you can rather than do nothing and just die helpless

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:20:56 am »

take an aspirin during a heart attack.

neckromancer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2010, 02:22:45 am »

@kikomaching1: HIndi laging ganyan. Hindi nakasisiguro ang isang tao lalo na kung walang training kung ano ang dahilan ng sakit ng dibdib niya.

@renmazuo: Sabi ni Hippocrates, "First do no harm."

renmazuo · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2010, 03:23:43 am »

@neckromancer

true...true...however...

you're alone, you suffer a heart attack. either you...

do nothing: death most likely awaits, unless you're lucky enough that someone will spot you squirming on the ground. but since you're alone, most likely you'll be dead before that happens

or

do something (not necessarily the one mentioned here): may or may not save you depending on what you do, and you know what you're doing and throw in some luck (since not all measures, even though widely acknowledged, always work).

do everything you can to save your neck, ika nga. better kung tama ginagawa mo.

DjDaveTrance · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2010, 03:50:59 am »

Quote from: kikomaching1 on March 06, 2010, 01:20:56 am

take an aspirin during a heart attack.

Aspirin?
As far as I know!!

First line of medication sa Patient suffering from Heart Attack.
(Myocardial infarction) Is Nitroglycerin!!

renmazuo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2010, 04:04:56 am »

could be angina, could be MI...

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2010, 04:58:10 am »

Quote from: DjDaveTrance on March 06, 2010, 03:50:59 am

Aspirin?
As far as I know!!

First line of medication sa Patient suffering from Heart Attack.
(Myocardial infarction) Is Nitroglycerin!!

well, ang nitroglycerin po ay for chestpain. take note of the situation. example ha, saan ka ba mas likely maging alone at magka-Myocardial Infarction (MI) also known as Heart Attack? sa hospital where someone can give you nitroglycerin or at home where you can usually get the aspirin? when you get an MI, you dont treat the pain, you treat the blockage in the heart. aspirin is a blood thinner. when the blood is thinner, the blood may pass easier kung hindi totally blocked ang Coronal Arteries.

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2010, 04:59:24 am »

Quote from: renmazuo on March 06, 2010, 04:04:56 am

could be angina, could be MI...

Sinabi na po sa topic, heart attack. MI = heart attack

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2010, 05:01:35 am »

Quote from: neckromancer on March 06, 2010, 02:22:45 am

@kikomaching1: HIndi laging ganyan. Hindi nakasisiguro ang isang tao lalo na kung walang training kung ano ang dahilan ng sakit ng dibdib niya.

@renmazuo: Sabi ni Hippocrates, "First do no harm."

again, sinabi nga po sa topic na "heart attack". hindi naman sinabing any kind of pain. may symptoms naman ang heart attack like numbness of the arm, etc..

DjDaveTrance · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2010, 05:10:26 am »

Quote from: kikomaching1 on March 06, 2010, 04:58:10 am

well, ang nitroglycerin po ay for chestpain. take note of the situation. example ha, saan ka ba mas likely maging alone at magka-Myocardial Infarction (MI) also known as Heart Attack? sa hospital where someone can give you nitroglycerin or at home where you can usually get the aspirin? when you get an MI, you dont treat the pain, you treat the blockage in the heart. aspirin is a blood thinner. when the blood is thinner, the blood may pass easier kung hindi totally blocked ang Coronal Arteries.

Well, Aspirin dami mga complications/side effects/adverse effects papz!
Kaya di siya advisable!!

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2010, 07:21:43 am »

Quote from: DjDaveTrance on March 06, 2010, 05:10:26 am

Well, Aspirin dami mga complications/side effects/adverse effects papz!
Kaya di siya advisable!!

then make a complaint to the american heart association coz this is their idea.

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2010, 08:32:03 pm »

Quote from: DjDaveTrance on March 06, 2010, 05:10:26 am

Well, Aspirin dami mga complications/side effects/adverse effects papz!
Kaya di siya advisable!!

btw, i'd rather have an upset stomach being the most common side effect of the aspirin than die from a heart attack.

or

i'd rather suffer more simple "complications/side effects/adverse effects" than die from a heart attack.

neckromancer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2010, 09:55:58 pm »

@kikomaching1:hindi ka inaaway kaya cool ka lang. We are all speaking from clinical experience.

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2010, 05:45:46 am »

sows! im just taking my side dude!

xeroxboy · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2010, 08:42:05 am »

Hi, Ive red the article.It say to do a hard cough..I think it is for someone suffering from palpitations or SVT's, coughing serves as valsalva manuever to stimulate vagal hence to decrease heart rate and others do carotid massage..I think now they don't advise it as per AHA..Treating Heart attack as laymans term for MI.. Both ASA and NTG are drug of choice when treating for possible MI or ACS..of course if you have MI you would expect to have chest pain..so you can treat the pain, but of course morphine is still the no. one drug of choice for pain..NTG are only advisable for stable BP..but still yes it is prescribe for pt's with known to have history of MI's.ASA in other hand, is given as an antiplatelet together with other blood thinners like plavix and clexane to to thin the blood..

kikomaching1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2010, 10:31:58 am »

Quote from: xeroxboy on March 07, 2010, 08:42:05 am

Hi, Ive red the article.It say to do a hard cough..I think it is for someone suffering from palpitations or SVT's, coughing serves as valsalva manuever to stimulate vagal hence to decrease heart rate and others do carotid massage..I think now they don't advise it as per AHA..Treating Heart attack as laymans term for MI.. Both ASA and NTG are drug of choice when treating for possible MI or ACS..of course if you have MI you would expect to have chest pain..so you can treat the pain, but of course morphine is still the no. one drug of choice for pain..NTG are only advisable for stable BP..but still yes it is prescribe for pt's with known to have history of MI's.ASA in other hand, is given as an antiplatelet together with other blood thinners like plavix and clexane to to thin the blood..

nicely said

isnt plavix a beta blocker?

neckromancer · « **Reply #20 on:** March 08, 2010, 12:15:43 pm »

@kikomaching1: Hindi beta-blocker ang Plavix (Clopidogrel). Antiplatelet nga. Katulad ng aspirin, pinapalabnaw nito ang dugo.

Eto ang point din kung bakit pangit na emergency drug ang aspirin, hindi tulad ng mga gamot na designed para dito tulad ng Captopril:
Ang aspirin, kailangan lunukin ng tao, tapos dadaan sa digestive system. Ang mga gamot tuad ng Captopril, ilalagay lang sa ilalim ng dila. Within 5 minutes ang effect niyan. Ang aspirin, depende sa laman ng tiyan (kasi solid yung tablet).

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Author Topic: How to Survive Heart Attack when Alone (Read 3614 times)