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Mammoths come back to life?
« on: June 02, 2013, 01:33:48 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/world/asia/siberia-mammoth-blood-discovery/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook

(CNN) -- Remember when woolly mammoths roamed the planet? No? Well don't worry if you missed the last ice age -- scientists have moved one step closer to possibly bringing the beasts back to life with the discovery of liquid blood in a well-preserved mammoth carcass in Siberia.
Researchers from the Northeast Federal University in Yakutsk found the 10,000-year-old female mammoth buried in ice on the Lyakhovsky Islands off the coast of northeast Russia.
Scientists say they poked the frozen creature with a pick and dark liquid blood flowed out.
"The fragments of muscle tissues, which we've found out of the body, have a natural red color of fresh meat. The reason for such preservation is that the lower part of the body was underlying in pure ice," said Semyon Grigoriev, the head of the expedition and of the university's Mammoth Museum, in a statement on the university's website.
"The blood is very dark, it was found in ice cavities below the belly and when we broke these cavities with a poll pick, the blood came running out," he said. "Interestingly, the temperature at the time of excavation was -7 to -10ºC. It may be assumed that the blood of mammoths had some cryoprotective properties."
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Cryoprotectant is a substance found in modern fish and amphibians living in the Arctic and Antarctic that minimizes the damage to the creatures' tissue in freezing temperatures.
Grigoriev told The Siberian Times newspaper it was the first time mammoth blood had been discovered and called it "the best preserved mammoth in the history of paleontology."
"We suppose that the mammoth fell into water or got bogged down in a swamp, could not free herself and died. Due to this fact the lower part of the body, including the lower jaw, and tongue tissue, was preserved very well," he said.
Grigoriev called the liquid blood "priceless material" for the university's joint project with South Korean scientists who are hoping to clone a woolly mammoth, which has been extinct for thousands of years.
The controversial Sooam Biotech Research Foundation is headed up by Hwang Woo-suk -- the disgraced former Seoul National University scientist who claimed in 2004 that he had successfully cloned human embryonic stem cells before admitting he had faked his findings.
Hwang, who also cloned the world's first puppy, was forced to admit he had fabricated the stem cell data and apologized in January 2006 after a panel of scientists found he had not derived human stem cells from eggs, as he claimed.
A one-hour documentary about the joint Russia-South Korean quest to clone a mammoth from the creature's remains aired on the National Geographic Channel in the U.S. in April.
Grigoriev says the mammoth carcass has not been moved yet for fear of damaging it -- and that his team will join foreign researches in Siberia for further research in July.


How cool is thaaaat!  :o

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 06:34:56 pm »
Bro, muKhang malabo pa. Eto sagot ng mga researchers...
news.yahoo.com/despite-mammoth-blood-discovery-cloning-still-unlikely-191645141.html
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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 09:36:46 pm »
still unlikely but there is slight possibilities if cells are really intact.

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 12:34:30 am »
all they need is a healthy DNA structure. .ginawa na din to sa ibang mga extinct na bird. .ngayon hindi na extinct. .gaya nang passenger pigeon. .
but due to the size of the mammoth its much more complicated

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 04:54:37 am »
really, ala Jurassic park? 8)

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 01:55:51 am »
all they need is a healthy DNA structure. .ginawa na din to sa ibang mga extinct na bird. .ngayon hindi na extinct. .gaya nang passenger pigeon. .
but due to the size of the mammoth its much more complicated

It won't be as simple as that. As far as I know, work in progress pa rin yung revival ng passenger pigeon.

There are 2 ways to revive extinct species. Yung isa, by cloning which may not be a good option for mammoths kasi kailangan nilang itanim ang clone sa isang surrogate elephant. Pero dahil magkaiba ng species at higit na mas malaki ang baby mammoth sa elephant, malaki ang chances ng miscarriage at mamatay yung surrogate mom. Aside sa endangered din ang elephants, limited lang ang supply nila ng DNA.

Yung isang mas viable na way ng pag-revive is via reverse evolution na tntry nila ngayon sa mga manok. Kailangan nilang I-map yung full DNA ng mammoth, and, starting with a normal elephant, magm-modify lang muna sila ng selected genes. Pag successfully naka-produce ng breeding pair, gawa uli sila ng onting modifications sa magiging anak nun; and so on... Hanggang after several genarations magmukhang mammoth na. Tingin ko mas achievable na approach 'to, pero dahil sa lifespan ng mga elephant at dahil hindi rin sila nag-aanak ng marami, baka abutin ng daang taon para mabalik yung mammoth.

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 11:43:19 am »
It won't be as simple as that. As far as I know, work in progress pa rin yung revival ng passenger pigeon.

There are 2 ways to revive extinct species. Yung isa, by cloning which may not be a good option for mammoths kasi kailangan nilang itanim ang clone sa isang surrogate elephant. Pero dahil magkaiba ng species at higit na mas malaki ang baby mammoth sa elephant, malaki ang chances ng miscarriage at mamatay yung surrogate mom. Aside sa endangered din ang elephants, limited lang ang supply nila ng DNA.

Yung isang mas viable na way ng pag-revive is via reverse evolution na tntry nila ngayon sa mga manok. Kailangan nilang I-map yung full DNA ng mammoth, and, starting with a normal elephant, magm-modify lang muna sila ng selected genes. Pag successfully naka-produce ng breeding pair, gawa uli sila ng onting modifications sa magiging anak nun; and so on... Hanggang after several genarations magmukhang mammoth na. Tingin ko mas achievable na approach 'to, pero dahil sa lifespan ng mga elephant at dahil hindi rin sila nag-aanak ng marami, baka abutin ng daang taon para mabalik yung mammoth.


very well said. .ang pagkakaalam ko work in progress pero nagawa na. .pina nest at pinaturuan sa isa pang mas malapit na relative ng passenger. .tama ba?

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Re: Mammoths come back to life?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 12:45:34 pm »
very well said. .ang pagkakaalam ko work in progress pero nagawa na. .pina nest at pinaturuan sa isa pang mas malapit na relative ng passenger. .tama ba?


Etong Revive and Restore lang ang alam kong nagre-revive ng passenger pigeon, and based sa website nila, hindi pa sila successful.

http://longnow.org/revive/