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: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Rockford August 04, 2007, 10:14:48 PM
Is there still hope for the Philippines?

Is there still hope for the Philippines? Edgardo Angara, an opposition senator once said that the country would not see progress within the next 25 years. The richest man in the Philippines has a more dismal outlook, as he predicted that the Philippines would "continue to sleep in the next 100 years" because of politicking in the land.

Lucio Tan, a tobacco tycoon who expanded his business empire under the Marcos and Estrada administrations, cited the need for the Filipinos to change, if we don't want to be left behind by our neighbors, particularly China where things change every year. "In Manila, in 50 years there is no growth," he said.

Of course, Lucio Tan based his prediction on how the Philippine economy paced in the past century when cronies were allowed to dictate economic policies and when the largest companies were involved in manufacturing of beer and cigarettes.

A more appropriate prediction, however, shall be based on how it can respond to the challenges of a new global economic order where competition and not political alliance is the name of the game. With that it mind, anybody would find it hard to determine what will happen even in the next 25 years.

The World Bank said the world's gross domestic product would reach US$140 trillion while its population would climb to 9 billion in five decades. Whether Filipinos would change their ways in five decades is hard to foresee.

At present, Filipino politicians argue, several religious leaders mislead their followers, some law enforcers participate in crimes, a number of traders bilk the poor of their hard-earned money, and many people become insensitive to the needs of their neighbors. Is there still hope for the Philippines? 

http://www.txtmania.com/articles/hope.php


**I believe their is still hope for us. The process of recovery is slow & tedious but I know Juan Dela Cruz can make it.


: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: wolfpaq August 05, 2007, 09:33:51 AM
There will always be hope for the struggling of Juan Dela Cruz... Though many will die trying, it will take time.. A lot of time!!
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Master Dave August 05, 2007, 09:49:09 AM
Kung iisipin natin na wala na tayong pag-asa, wala nang kikilos para mag-improve ang sarili nya..

Of course, Lucio Tan based his prediction on how the Philippine economy paced in the past century when cronies were allowed to dictate economic policies and when the largest companies were involved in manufacturing of beer and cigarettes.

Hindi ba si Lucio Tan ang isa sa mga bigtime cronies ni Macoy?  gun::
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: sanmina August 05, 2007, 10:01:50 AM
wala o hindi na magkakaroon ng pag-asa ang bansa natin habang umiiral sa mga pilipino ang pagiging utak talangka lalo na ang mga namumunong politiko sa atin mapabago man o lumang politiko ganun pa rin pulos utak talangka!
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: hapi August 05, 2007, 10:24:08 AM
"Of course, Lucio Tan based his prediction on how the Philippine economy paced in the past century when cronies were allowed to dictate economic policies and when the largest companies were involved in manufacturing of beer and cigarettes."

     without sounding like a racist..... hindi purong pinoy si lucio tan infact if im not mistaken.... walang dugong pinoy si lucio tan,  also he is one of the biggest crony of marcos, infact as of late the marcos children are all set to regain control of the lucio empire which they claim was only handed to him by marcos in-trust.

     as they say "hope springs eternal", kung sa pagasa lang meron at meron, mahirap dahil sa puntong ito masyado ng diluted and values ng pinoy.  all this i ascribe to the fact that we dont have a "sense of history", as such we are not a proud race. unless the filipino will start beleiving in himself, unless we learn from our past, unless we take pride in our race, the filipino is bound to continue to dilute, imagine a filipino is a good american, canadian, australian, and whatever else, but he is never a good filipino.  we are even quick to put down our own race, when he becomes a citizen of another country, he is better than their natural born citizens.  nakakahiya na ang pinoy mas proud na americano, hapon o ano pa man pero hiyang hiya na filipino siya.  let us teach our children to be proud of being filipino, not only because we can box, or play pool but rather be proud that we come from a race who is not only beautiful but is intelligent, hard working, creative and God fearing.   Sa aking palagay, babangon din ang pinoy, at darating din ang araw na titingalain din tayo sa mundo.   Mabuhay ang lahing PILIPINO!
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: wolfpaq August 05, 2007, 10:33:38 AM
wala o hindi na magkakaroon ng pag-asa ang bansa natin habang umiiral sa mga pilipino ang pagiging utak talangka lalo na ang mga namumunong politiko sa atin mapabago man o lumang politiko ganun pa rin pulos utak talangka!

Tama ka ka-espiya.. Yung iba, instead na magtulungan at kung may umaasenso sa buhay, hinihila nila pababa. Crab mentality kung sa ingles pa..

Medyo may marami rami pa namang natitirang matitinong pinoy ngayon...
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: ssbongbong August 05, 2007, 10:44:59 AM
wala..tingin ko ganito na talaga tayo.. laffman::..pwera nga lang kung uupo yung talagang mahigpit katulad ni lacson at miriam.. music::
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Hirochi August 06, 2007, 11:30:33 PM
wala na kaya nga sa ibang bansa na lang ako ti2ra pag my chance e. hehe
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: 123kid123 August 06, 2007, 11:54:58 PM
Kung lahat ng Pilipino ay magdadamot, iisipin lang ang kanilang pamilya sigurado giginhawa ang kanilang buhay.

Nasa kanya-kanyang mga kamay ang pagbabago.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: -=Kurabo=- August 07, 2007, 12:30:47 PM
tingin koh may pag asa pa.. based on my observation mejo nagi2sing n ung maga pilipino ngaun.. although little by little enough n un as long as may changes at progress n nangya2ri..
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: esteve September 10, 2007, 02:27:25 AM
masakit man isipin pero wala na talagang pag-asa ang mga pilipino na makaangat at umasenso kasi halos lahat ng mga pinoy magnanakaw. ibang-iba talaga sa ibang bansa lalot sa america. matatalino ang mga pinoy at very hard working kaso pasaway pa rin sa trabaho. filipino nurses demand bumaba kasi ang ibang mga pinoy mapresyo talaga and maraming demand. india and mexico nurses tumaas na ang demand.pinakamalala sa mga pinoy yong pagiging walang desiplina sa sarili. napahanga ako dito sa u.s kasi when nagblackout tapos walang traffic lights hindi pa rin nagkabuhol-buhol ang traffic. naisip ko tuloy when sa pinas ito for sure marami na ang nag away at nagbarilan.simpleng bagay lang but mahirap sa mga pinoy maintindihan. hindi tayo bobo kaso hindi naman natin ginagamit ang talino natin.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: comsci24 September 16, 2007, 07:21:31 PM
Wala na hehehe yun na lang masasabi ko, siguro pag naging pangulo si Ping Lacson and i think thats he'll turn out to be an amazing president tapos nag start sya ng Coup De Etat and remove all the senators and other money grabbers it would be the only time na baka sakaling magbago ang Pilipinas, dahil sa totoo lang hindi naman likas na yaman o yung laki ng lupa ang problema natin kaya di umaasenso ang Pilipinas kundi yung rotten government tska yung disciplina ng tao ang problema, ako nga andito na ko sa America pag may balitang dadating galing sa Pilipinas puro na lang problema tska kaululan ang naririnig ko hehehehe tska masyadong mabait ang mga pilipino alam nyo dito pag may mga Presidente na hindi gusto o kaya kahit na sinong politician dalawa lang nangyayari sa kanila kundi pinapapatay pinapababa sila agad ng tao, siguro pag naging ganun na din sa Pilipinas dun pa lang siguro uli makakabangon si kumpareng juan...
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: force-x September 16, 2007, 11:03:34 PM
wala ng pag asa pinas hanggat may corrupt sa gobyerno natin di na aangat ang bansa. simula sk chairman hanggang presidente may mga gumagawa ng di kanais nais isama mo pa yung mga ahensya ng gobyerno wala ka ng maasahan na mabuti.hindi ko naman sinasabing lahat sila ganon kaya lang pag dating kasi sa pera nag aagawan na lahat ,sa ngayon kasi kung sino may pera panalo ka na sa eleksyon pero pagkatapos ng eleksyon babawiin din mas higit pa at sa gov. egency naman konting process lang ng papers hihingan ka na agad ng kotong pag di ka nag bigay aamagin ka sa kahihintay at pudpud na sapatos mo kababalik balik sa opisina.

mas mabuti pa focus na lang tayo lahat sa spiritual mas gagaan pa pakiramdam natin at mauunawaan pa natin bakit sila ganyan at matututo pa tay mag patawad at mas secured pa.eh ano gung magunaw na mundo who cares...wala naman akong postion sa gov at kayamanan sa lupa na pang hihinayangan sa totoo lang ayaw ko talaga pagusapan ang politics pero ok namin comments lang naman eh diba.

peace tayo!!!
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Uncle_bob September 16, 2007, 11:15:26 PM
Meron pang pag asa ang pilipinas parang pag asang kinakamit nating mabuhay ng maayos at umasenso. oo, anjan na yan mga problema na yan.. corruption sa politika at crab mentality bago pa tayo pinanganak pero hindi ibigsabhin sa kanila na lahat ng sisi kung bakit wala ng pag asa ang bansa. mas maganda cgurong simulan muna sa sarili natin ang pagbabago, para khit magpatuloy parin ang corruption at crab mentality atleast malinis ang konsensya mong hindi ka kasali sa kanila at ginawa mo yung part mo bilang isang mabuting mamamayan..

habang may buhay may pag asa..
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: ichiru_69 September 17, 2007, 12:29:27 AM
basta wag cchin ntin lahat sa government nasa tau din naman un.. ang bumubuo sa government ay ung mga tao sa buong bansa kaya kung gusto nyo ng pagbabago kailangan magsimula lahat sa srili sa community.. sa city.. sa region.. den buong bansa magiging ok..
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: magicballer September 19, 2007, 04:23:36 AM
pag nawala na ang politico at ang mamayan na lang mag take over baka sakali, saka marami abuso sa pwesto nila, at dapat wag magpaloko ang mamayan sa mga pangakong di natutupad.  baka sakali pa
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: bleep September 19, 2007, 12:41:25 PM
may pag asa pa tayo. pero dapat bawasan na mga kickback ng politicians. why charge us the extra 2% tax over the 10% vat? may pera ang pilipinas, binubulsa lang nila. if politicians can make it a point to get a max of 10% kickback from deals, di mababaon ang pilipinas. sobra sila. millions of dollars na kickback nila sa zte deal. thats more than 100% in commission for those in power.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: mayputokako September 19, 2007, 12:58:13 PM
wala na.. puro English ng English ang mga pinoy.. dun pa lang wala na..  laffman:: wala na talaga.. ipanalangin niyo na lang na tunay si Zaido.. Zaido nga ba? baka may magawa yun.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Kal-El September 19, 2007, 01:09:02 PM
wala namang duda kung may pag-asa ang bansa natin. Mayroon kung mayroon. Ngunit, ang tanong ay kung meron bang umaaksyon para magamit ang pag-asa na ito. At kung mayroon man, sapat na ba ang iilan?  toast::
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: equinexxus September 21, 2007, 06:43:12 PM
i will always say yes to this question

at bkit kamo? dahil Pilipino ako, at nais kong magpatuloy ang aking lahi at bansa patungo sa kinabukasan, at magagawa lng ntin 'to kung lahat tyo maniniwala na may pag-asa ang ating bayan, di ito mawawala o mauubos, dahil marami pa rin sa atin ang umaasa sa mas magandang hinaharap...

khit pa baon tyo sa problema at trahedya, mananatili ang pag-asa sa akin, dahil Pinoy ako

un lamang po, salamat
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: bleep September 26, 2007, 07:17:39 AM
walang imposible sa buhay kung gugustuhin mo. kaso, mas gusto ng mga politiko ang pera kesa ituwid ang ating gobyerno at economiya...
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: TobleRONe September 26, 2007, 07:23:41 AM
Ang sagot ko dyan ay ito:

1. May pag-asa pa. sila nga yung nagrereport ng weather di ba?

2. Meron pa. Buhay pa ako at baka tumakbo akong Presidente.  laffman:: Look for the PS hand sign na lang sa campaign poster, siguro 20 years from now  laffman::
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: boritoman September 26, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Wala na hehehe yun na lang masasabi ko, siguro pag naging pangulo si Ping Lacson and i think thats he'll turn out to be an amazing president tapos nag start sya ng Coup De Etat and remove all the senators and other money grabbers it would be the only time na baka sakaling magbago ang Pilipinas, dahil sa totoo lang hindi naman likas na yaman o yung laki ng lupa ang problema natin kaya di umaasenso ang Pilipinas kundi yung rotten government tska yung disciplina ng tao ang problema, ako nga andito na ko sa America pag may balitang dadating galing sa Pilipinas puro na lang problema tska kaululan ang naririnig ko hehehehe tska masyadong mabait ang mga pilipino alam nyo dito pag may mga Presidente na hindi gusto o kaya kahit na sinong politician dalawa lang nangyayari sa kanila kundi pinapapatay pinapababa sila agad ng tao, siguro pag naging ganun na din sa Pilipinas dun pa lang siguro uli makakabangon si kumpareng juan...

Sa tuwing makakabasa ako ng commento ng isang pilipino na katulad nito ay naiisip ko lagi ang pagbagsak ng uri ng edukasyon sa ating bayan. Im a US citizen na at i can't recall a bad US president na pinatay for being a bad president. JFK was assasinated but he was one of the best US president that US had. They tried doing it to Reagan but they fail ( and reagan was a damn good president) who else Lincon, he was the emensapator of the slaves ( is that bad). Please read your history my friend. I think your one of those pinoys who are here illegally (TNT) DHS will catch you pretty soon.

No leaders can save the philippines right now but filipinos themselves. We just need to vote wisely and be vigilant on whats going on around us. Thats the only way for the philippines to recover from poverty. Electing a deserving and god fearing leader is a good start. But every election we seems to fail the first goal. Be reminded that we can only do this once every 3 years for local and 6 years for the executive ( pres and v-pres). That every time we fail to ellect a deserving one is we (country) have to endure it for a long time (3-6 years). Gising Pinoy Kaya mo yan!!!!!
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: exxit September 26, 2007, 09:00:19 PM
....TOO MUCH FREEDOM... !!!!!

...kailangan strictly impose mga laws...  ang dami nating mga batas di naman sinusunod.  mashado mabagal ang justice system... dapat mabilisan...

... kailangan natin mga taong makakapagpatupad ng laws na walang takot at bias... un palaban.  pero hindi magagawa ng isang lider lang ito...

... population control - habang dumarami ang pinoy na di nakakapag pa-aral ng mga anak... lalong hihirap ang pinas... maraming magiging mangmang sa batas kaya di na sumusunod. 





: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: Kal-El September 28, 2007, 04:05:54 PM
Sa tuwing makakabasa ako ng commento ng isang pilipino na katulad nito ay naiisip ko lagi ang pagbagsak ng uri ng edukasyon sa ating bayan. Im a US citizen na at i can't recall a bad US president na pinatay for being a bad president. JFK was assasinated but he was one of the best US president that US had. They tried doing it to Reagan but they fail ( and reagan was a damn good president) who else Lincon, he was the emensapator of the slaves ( is that bad). Please read your history my friend. I think your one of those pinoys who are here illegally (TNT) DHS will catch you pretty soon.

No leaders can save the philippines right now but filipinos themselves. We just need to vote wisely and be vigilant on whats going on around us. Thats the only way for the philippines to recover from poverty. Electing a deserving and god fearing leader is a good start. But every election we seems to fail the first goal. Be reminded that we can only do this once every 3 years for local and 6 years for the executive ( pres and v-pres). That every time we fail to ellect a deserving one is we (country) have to endure it for a long time (3-6 years). Gising Pinoy Kaya mo yan!!!!!

Apologies for this is off-topic. But since you have pointed out that you are already a US Citizen, and that you present yourself to be well-educated after your comment on the decline of Philippine education, I would expect more from you when it comes to your command of the language. Maybe it's typo-error, though I hardly doubt it. And your grammar is quite off on some sentences. By the way, it's EMANCIPATOR not emensapator. And please, don't even go discussing illegal immigration and DHS/USCIS. Now, a comment like this is nothing but an evidence of the existence of a negative Filipino mentality: crab mentality...

back to the topic....though your suggestion is feasible enough, I have to say that this still comes down to how many voters are actually thinking well-enough as to who qualifies with the qualities you have given above? For the sake of the argument, let's say there are enough people who will vote "wisely." Is that enough when politicians are so corrupt that they are willing to put on a face for election purposes and shed their true color once in office? A typical wolf in a sheep's clothing scenario isn't it? Fact of the matter is, politicians are too corrupt; majority of the people are too hungry to think and will grab any promise that a politician makes (who eventually gets the mass' vote). Unfortunately, this has been a cycle. No, worse, an election tradition.

Sadly, your suggestion is very ideal, but at the same time, is hard to implement. However, as I've said, it is feasible. Possible, but close to impossible.  Nonetheless, I believe there is still hope for our country. It might not happen in our lifetime. But Filipinos are better than this, and will rise up eventually.  toast::
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: touchdown06 September 29, 2007, 08:16:28 AM
sa panahon ngayon_masmadaling tanggapin/isipin na wala ngpagasa kaysa meron!
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: bugtook October 01, 2007, 11:25:08 AM
Wala na po 100% para sa akin sa nakita ko sa mga kabataan ngayon sa lahat wala ng pagbabago honestly speaking po yon. Even in a 100 yrs hinding hindi na po. Pag-asa owwwww come on guys hindi na mangyayari sa Pinas yan. Kahit bali baliktarin ko yong salamin sa harap ko di na magbabago yon.

Eto ang makapagbabago kong gusto nyo 25yrs from now.

3 years old na may dugong pinoy dapat etira.....

4 years old pataas may dugong pinoy dapat patayin kasama na ako at kayong nandito sa pinoy spy.

100% with in 25 yrs may pagbabago believe me.


Note : Kong hindi gawin to walang pag-babago ang pinas hangang sa pagbalik ni Kristo.
: double post
: bugtook October 01, 2007, 11:25:59 AM
paki delet nalang po.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: gungho2 October 07, 2007, 02:12:41 AM
....TOO MUCH FREEDOM... !!!!!

...kailangan strictly impose mga laws...  ang dami nating mga batas di naman sinusunod.  mashado mabagal ang justice system... dapat mabilisan...

... kailangan natin mga taong makakapagpatupad ng laws na walang takot at bias... un palaban.  pero hindi magagawa ng isang lider lang ito...

... population control - habang dumarami ang pinoy na di nakakapag pa-aral ng mga anak... lalong hihirap ang pinas... maraming magiging mangmang sa batas kaya di na sumusunod. 



Actually, masyadong maliit na freedom---specifically sa press. Kung malaya sanang batikusin ng press ang mga matatas na opisyal ng politica at militar, isang step na yan. Kaso, laki ng takot natin sa mga taong nasa posiyon. Kung meron sanang mga nasa press na talagang walang takot na ilabas ang mga katuwalian ng mga nasa pwesto o nasa oposisyon, mababawasan ang katuwalian.

Kailan kaya ?
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: CYBERJOE October 07, 2007, 03:08:40 AM
Baka patay na ako bago magkakaroon ng malinis na halalan, malinis na kapaligiran, malinis na konsensya ng mga tao. Disiplina kasi ang wala sa ating mga Pilipino dahil sa iniwan na tradisyon ng mga Spaniards. Andyan pa rin yung inaasa natin sa pustahan ang lahat ng bagay. Parang mga "fray botod" ang mga Pinoy. Pag nakakita ng butas sinasamantala. Iilan ilan lang ang gumagawa ng mabuti kung ikukumpara natin ito sa gumagawa ng masama. Wala na akong nakikitang dahilan pa para umangat ang Pilipinas. Unles otherwise if will adopt the culture of the Japanese. I mean pag nalagay sa controversy "hara kiri" kaagad. Sa Pilipinas iba. Lalong nagiging ganid ang mga nalalagay sa controversiya. Lalung-lalo na ang mga lider natin. Kung ganun lang cguro ang gagawin ng mga ganid nating liders doon umasa tayo na may pag-asa pa ang bansa natin.
: Re: Is there still hope for the Philippines?
: tigerwing October 07, 2007, 04:51:41 AM
Wala na po 100% para sa akin sa nakita ko sa mga kabataan ngayon sa lahat wala ng pagbabago honestly speaking po yon. Even in a 100 yrs hinding hindi na po. Pag-asa owwwww come on guys hindi na mangyayari sa Pinas yan. Kahit bali baliktarin ko yong salamin sa harap ko di na magbabago yon.

Eto ang makapagbabago kong gusto nyo 25yrs from now.

3 years old na may dugong pinoy dapat etira.....

4 years old pataas may dugong pinoy dapat patayin kasama na ako at kayong nandito sa pinoy spy.

100% with in 25 yrs may pagbabago believe me.


Note : Kong hindi gawin to walang pag-babago ang pinas hangang sa pagbalik ni Kristo.

Wow thats a great idea.. Lets say that someone did it and the UN did not intervene.. If every single man, woman and children 4yrs and above is killed who will be left? can a 3 year old run a country? can they work and earn a living? wouldnt this make our country much worst? Your idea is totaly impossible and is very stupid... And people like you who is so darn pesimistic is actualy a big part of the problem.. Sinasabing wala ng pagasa, tinatangap na lang ang mga mali sa pinas at walang ginagawa para mabago ang bayan... You want change? then start by changing yourself..

A nation is only as good as its people.. Kung lahat ng tao sa pinas eh iisipin na imposible ng magkaroon ng pagbabago eh for sure wala na ngang mangyayari..

I believe may pagasa pa ang pinas.. It may not be in this lifetime but Im sure there will come a time na mababago at magiging maayos din ang lahat.. Hindi naman siguro puro tanga ang tao sa pilipinas para hindi makita kung ano ang problema.. Hindi lang mga pulitiko o ang gobyerno ang dapat natin sisihin, ang totoong problema ay ang mga tao mismo.. So, tingin ko kung gusto natin na may magbago, hindi lang dapat ung mga nasa pwesto lang ang pagtuunan natin ng pansin, sino ba ang nag-lagay sa kanila dun? dba mga tao din? Siguro we should educate our people more.. maybe we should teach them their role in our society and what effect they can have in our nation.. Alisin narin ung crab mentality, dapat tayong magtulungang umakyat, hindi maghilahan pababa.. In any case, we need good men to rise up and start the change.. meron p nmn sigurong natitirang matitino sa pinas dba?