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Espiya Newstand (Current Events, Classifieds, Events) => Current Discussions => Politics => : krista_cuevas May 21, 2007, 09:29:24 PM
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do you believe that arroyo administration is the most corrupt in philippine history????
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medyo..... laffman:: laffman:: laffman::
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pareparehas lng nmn mga pulitiko...
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wala lang maupo jan magging courrupt tlga! sa dami nmang advisers eh syempre maraming mambubuyo sa nkaupo e2 nmang c nkaupo susundin nya ang loko! wahehe! ok lang skin kse lumkas n ang piso pero marami prin ng nghihirap katulad nya tlga tatay nya mgaling sa economic strategies!
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hindi pinaka-corrupt ang GMA administration, pero nevertheless IT IS CORRUPT. laffman::
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No. My opinion stands unless I experience an act first hand. I have encountered department employees and officers who are corrupt but I just don't see a GMA hand on them.
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No. My opinion stands unless I experience an act first hand. I have encountered department employees and officers who are corrupt but I just don't see a GMA hand on them.
hmm pero big projects like yung sa macapagal ave sa may roxas.. diba dumadaan din naman yun sa top brass ng govt bukod sa dept of public works and highways for approval?
so dalawa lang ang lalabas, either pinalampas dahil may kickback or may pagkabobo si GMA sa pera. the second one is impossible though, economist si GMA eh.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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I think we have a very corrupt system but it's like that, way before GMA came into the picture. If you want proof, just look at how many drivers just give P100 or P200 to enforecers when they are caught with a traffic. Just look at how many would pay a fixer when we need to get a license or anything. Just look at how many of us accepted money to vote for a specific candidate last election. It's in our blood already. And we need to fix ourselves before we lay the blame on a very convenient scapegoat. 8)
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macapagal highway cost billions of dollors???? pak syet cla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sana may death note ako para kill the corrupt ewn ko lang kung may tumakbo pang president HAHAHAHAHA
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i am relatively young, pro i have very noteworthy experience regarding this matter, all i can say is, bulok at corrupt ang sistema at pamumuhay ng pinoy, kya bawat isa sa atin may kinalaman sa nakakasulasok na kalagayan ng bansa natin, na ayon sa karamihan ay kasalanan lng ng iilan, hoy! gising na! di ba pinoy ka? wag maging tanga at mapagmalinis, every1 of us is interconnected, great things start from small things, so try to effect something positive, pra sa bayan at para sa bawat Pilipino.
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The Arroyo administration may be corrupt, but it is not the most corrupt administration in Philippine history. That title belongs to the Marcos administration spanning 21 years from 1965 to 1986. The country's economy was in shambles after the Marcos administration. Heck, he even had all those Swiss accounts consisting of the taxpayers' money! What's worse is that we can't even get to those Swiss accounts to get the money that is rightfully ours and use them to our fiscal advantage. gun:: gun:: gun::
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oo sya na... small but terrible tlga.... gun:: gun:: gun::
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I believe GMA administration is not the most corrupt, slightly maybe ...including the Nepotismo culture.....
but eventhough its corrupt still we are seeing some developments / improvements
more call center jobs are coming in & the peso is getting stronger.
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We can all agree that there are developments. We can prove, we see it. What we cannot prove is the administration's corruption.
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can u list some of the improvements with proof?pls?
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Infrastructures, foreign investments (call centers), overseas jobs (nurses), National product trades/local trades. When was the last time you read a newspaper?
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so thats it? wow..thats a lot. laffman::
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You're kidding right? Or you're just a regular dumb ass?
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You're kidding right? Or you're just a regular dumb ass?
no ur a dumb ass..stop ur shit ok?
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OK. Be smart and stop asking questions. Lay your opinions. Otherwise, you don't know what you are and you wouldn't know what that means.
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OK. Be smart and stop asking questions. Lay your opinions. Otherwise, you don't know what you are and you wouldn't know what that means.
hahah your very affected..i just can't imagine arroyo's adminstration do something good so far..that keep me laughing. laffman::
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so thats it? wow..thats a lot. laffman::
pre, 1 site of a call center can house at least 700 - 1000 agents......so thats 1000 less in the unemployed number of filipinoes.
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I believe GMA administration is not the most corrupt, slightly maybe ...including the Nepotismo culture.....
but eventhough its corrupt still we are seeing some developments / improvements
more call center jobs are coming in & the peso is getting stronger.
how can you say peso is getting stronger sir? if the basis is just the foreign exchange rate, i would definitely disagree...foreign exchange rate is dropping but the prices of basic necessity for juan dela cruz is not. It is so hard to earn dollars abroad but for what? $1=44 pesos and a good, clean kilo of rice stays P26...tsk tsk tsk
peace bro... smoking::
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(I withdraw my opinions if you think I misunderstood your reply)
Actually it's easier to earn money in the U.S. Usually you get $6 an hour, and that's an equivalent of a day of work if you're in the Philippines. _The_ investment is another thing.
Well oil/Petroleum really affects everything. Now imagine if a dollar is still Php55.
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Well oil/Petroleum really affects everything. Now imagine if a dollar is still Php55.
Oil/Petroleum is not even dropping its prices and even LPG which is a basic need in every household. P500+ per 11kgs of LPG. A lot of OFW's are already complaining... smoking::
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Oil/Petroleum is not even dropping its prices and even LPG which is a basic need in every household. P500+ per 11kgs of LPG. A lot of OFW's are already complaining... smoking::
Exactly my point. If Philippine Peso, if you may, isn't getting stronger every product affected by Petroleum will be more expensive (than it's current price).
Complaining what? Complaining to who?
You really can't hold the rising price of imported products against the government because they don't control them. The best thing the gov't can do is keep Php against USD stronger everyday.
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OFW's are complaining 'coz the money they are sending isn't worth it anymore. Peso is really getting stronger everyday but prices of basic necessities are still high. If you get my point...The gov't must make prices of our local products lower if they really want to say that our economy is getting better.
Anyway, nice discussing with you man...peace
toast::
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I think everyone knows that our government is corrupt and hey kelan ba nging hindi?? but to say GMA's administration is the most corrupt I believe is wrong... And yes our country is improving.. slowly but it is improving and anyone who says that its not is probably living in an underdeveloped area or just plain ignorant.. But the thing is we are far from being a well develop country,and it would take decades for us to reach that level.. An economist said in the Inquirer that the Philippines need to match China's 10% annual economic growth for atleast 20yrs for our country to be well developed.. I dont know how accurate this is as Im no economist but I believe that this is more or less correct.. we only had a 6% growth last year.. so I guess unless we can improve our economy alot more then it would take more than 20yrs for us to be develop.. Now this mission of improving the economy is not for the government alone.. Its for every single one of us as well.. Also development would start on certain areas and not on every part of the country.. some regions will take longer time before they can expirience development and not all people will feel it immediately.. I think most filipinos have this mind set that development can come rather quickly and everyone's lives will improve right away.. this is wrong as it really needs alot of time.. Just take a look at china, they're one of the fastest growing economy and yet if you had a chance to visit there, you'll see that alot of people are still poor and a large part of the country is still underdeveloped.. And when did the Chinese economic boom started? Yes their rise is considered fast but is still taking years... I guess everyone gets the point now..
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is a culture or a tradition of some of our politicians to be corrupt. From the President down to our baranggay officials. Its in their blood, its their culture!!
All I know is, GREED!! One of the deadly sins...
gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun::
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is a culture or a tradition of some of our politicians to be corrupt. From the President down to our baranggay officials. Its in their blood, its their culture!!
All I know is, GREED!! One of the deadly sins...
gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun::
this is true, di ba dapat every baranggay ay may pondo for a health center? sa mga uncle ko kasi, pag may sakit yung anak nya, dinadala nya sa baranggay may libre pang gamot.
samantalang dito sa amin, may mga lumalapit kasi sa akin na mga poor na ka-baranggay na humihingi ng tulong para pambili ng gamot. sinamahan ko sila sa baranggay since alam ko nga na may mga health centers bawat baranggay, imagine, para sa lagnat na lang wala pa. ano na nangyari sa mga free na gamot supposedly na ipinamamahagi ng baranggay? naibenta na kaya?
kaya tuloy napaisip ako kung tatakbo ba akong baranggay official, since tumutulong naman ako sa mga needy dito sa amin.
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Sa question ng threadstarter: of course not... Oo, corrupt ang administrasyong arroyo pero baka nakalimutan nyo na ang marcos administration? Marcos is a genius kaya nga hanggang ngayon eh hindi parin tuluyang mabawi ng gobyerno ang bilyon-bilyong nakaw na yaman ng pamilyang marcos.
Off topic: Mahirap na sigurong mabawi ng gov't ang nakaw na yaman ng mga marcos dahil sa sobrang higpit ng privacy policy ng swiss bank.
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No. My opinion stands unless I experience an act first hand. I have encountered department employees and officers who are corrupt but I just don't see a GMA hand on them.
hmm pero big projects like yung sa macapagal ave sa may roxas.. diba dumadaan din naman yun sa top brass ng govt bukod sa dept of public works and highways for approval?
so dalawa lang ang lalabas, either pinalampas dahil may kickback or may pagkabobo si GMA sa pera. the second one is impossible though, economist si GMA eh.
well thats true she has a masters degree in the US she is smart a we could get better than previous president l guess corruption does not really exist in the Big house it self l believe its in the local level especially Congress and governors, Mayors etc... its hard to distinguish which is which GMA l think is trying hard to prevent this siguro its in the culture of the filipino or mahirap lang talaga sugpuin because we tend mum on the situation that we see... hayy ah life in Pinas!!
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In my opinion, I think that the Arroyo administration is not the most corrupt government in the entire Philippine History. This is one of the problems that I think would be really hard to eliminate. Even Finland has a corrupt system even though they are the least corrupt country in the world. We need to change ourselves first if we want the Filipinos as a whole to change for the better. ;D
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Hindi corrupt ang Lola ko! Corrupt si Ramos!!! At ang problem is our attitude Hndi naman isinusumbong nga mga tao agad agaran kng may nakikika silang cupportion. Proud pa nga ang iba na mag kwento na nag under the table sila para lang ma iproseso ang kanilang application. tapos makikita mo sila sa kalye sila pa yung nangungu sa mga demonstration. hahahaha PEACE!
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pare pareho lang lahat sila, dagdag pahirap sa taong bayan, at pare pareho din silang sinisimut ang kaban ng bayan........
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it's really hard to be objective regarding this matter, kc marami sa atin ang biased na, because of the personality-based and immature politics prevailing. bkit mahirap maadmit na kahit papaano ay may ngyayaring mbuti s atin, is it because we already have forgotten ano ung situation ntin just a few years back? tsaka relatively, we are surviving, against the choke-hold of the world market, the past asian financial crisis, the recent plunges in the worldwide stock market, the oil-wars... di ba ntin naaiisip lahat ng ito ay may kinalaman din sa presyo ng bilihin sa atin at sa pangkalahatang takbo ng ekonomiya ng lahat ng bansa sa mundo?
to say that a single person can be responsible 4 ol of this is ignorant, and to just blame d system and the people behind d system is even more pathetic, kc prang inamin ntin na wala na tyong mgagawa laban sa knila, kya mgdddakdak n lng tyo.
ask urself, do i have d ryt to complain? when im not part of d solution, and worst still, a part of the bigger problem.
kalimutan cla erap, gloria, ramos, marcos at aquino, at ang gulo, 'eto na tyo, kapwa PILIPINO, nsa atin ang sagot sa ating mga problema, unahin ang bayan bgo ang intriga.
kapayapaan sa lahat!!!
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it's really hard to be objective regarding this matter, kc marami sa atin ang biased na, because of the personality-based and immature politics prevailing. bkit mahirap maadmit na kahit papaano ay may ngyayaring mbuti s atin, is it because we already have forgotten ano ung situation ntin just a few years back? tsaka relatively, we are surviving, against the choke-hold of the world market, the past asian financial crisis, the recent plunges in the worldwide stock market, the oil-wars... di ba ntin naaiisip lahat ng ito ay may kinalaman din sa presyo ng bilihin sa atin at sa pangkalahatang takbo ng ekonomiya ng lahat ng bansa sa mundo?
to say that a single person can be responsible 4 ol of this is ignorant, and to just blame d system and the people behind d system is even more pathetic, kc prang inamin ntin na wala na tyong mgagawa laban sa knila, kya mgdddakdak n lng tyo.
ask urself, do i have d ryt to complain? when im not part of d solution, and worst still, a part of the bigger problem.
kalimutan cla erap, gloria, ramos, marcos at aquino, at ang gulo, 'eto na tyo, kapwa PILIPINO, nsa atin ang sagot sa ating mga problema, unahin ang bayan bgo ang intriga.
kapayapaan sa lahat!!!
ninoy ikw ba laffman:: yn?
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do you believe that arroyo administration is the most corrupt in philippine history????
YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!
lets try to see compare the arroyo govt. and yung tinatawag nilang panahon ng Diktadora.
ARROYO- Iif ever sumasabit ang mga tao nya, pinapaalis nya ng bansa or the whole presidential press staff would be scrambbling to defend this individual, puor pa pogi points ang gagawin nila.
MARCOS-pag may sumabit heads will really roll, tangal, tigbak sa trabaho ang mga ito.
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but in fairness kay arroyo khit corrupt ang government sya lang sa last 4 na president ang nakapag stabilize ng economy.. na sinisira ng ibang politiko..
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guys alam nyo SOP sa Govt.yan na kapag may dumaan na papel lahat may parte.hehehehe..kaya ngayon dapat mabuo yung Young Govt.Employee Againts Corruption....dapat walang money involved pwede libre lang ng lunch o kaya magpainom ok na dapat sa ganun agree?
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in every administration there is a different ways to become a corrupt one,every president has there own political will na magaganda at maayos, the problem is how you gonna go there on top position without the help of the others,like business man to support you in campaigning some generals to control the armed forces some politician who got huge influence and some department secretaries to help you win the election so when you win it's time to pay them back kaya kahit anong gawin nila dedma ka na lang because without there help you will not win ika nga.ecomony can control by the government but the problem government has no money to sustain it kaya philippine economy can easily control by the big business man and other international market that can dictate easily the outcome,the only thing the ecomony keeps it's head above the water is the OFW's remittances, without this our country will pretty much in trouble,exchange rate from dollar to peso it's good to be low but the important is the GNP of our country which needs to boost it up.I suggest that we ask ourselves what we can do for our country and not ask anymore what our country can do for us.
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in my opinion, the arroyo is admin is corrupt BUT not the most. that's just bull crap that's being fed by the opposition to the masses or the people gullible enough to fall for their deceit.
all politicos are corrupt from the president down to brgy councilors.
if the question is who's the most corrupt, in my belief that would be former pres. ramos. he may not be in power anymore but his influence is far more greater than people believe or see.
from what i heard, pres marcos(undoubtdly the most brilliant pres the country has ever seen) made his fortune not with people's money but through foreign investors wanting to enter the philippine market. u can figure out how that works.
i'm not so sure about pres cory aquino. as for erap, he stole a good amount of people's money but he was stupid enough not to cover his tracks & got a little bit too selfish for his own good.
i'm not sure if most people are aware of this but ramos is secretly one of the majority shareholders in one of the biggest malls in india.
if you can also remember the peso in ramos' time was only an average of around P25? but when erap became president in just a short span of time it baloooned up to P52? regardless of how investors see erap as being a competent or incompetent leader for the country, the time frame for the drop of the value of our peso was just too fast too soon. most of the country's money went with ramos.
would you believe that ramos is responsible for ninoy's assasination?
when pres marcos knew his regime wouldn't last long, he was looking for a succesor with a brilliant mind & a good heart to match to take over the country, he was actually contemplating in having ninoy aquino take over his reign but ramos got jealous & plotted on how to have his way bec. he wanted to rise to power. well, we know what happened next after ninoy got off the plane.
i'm not saying pres ramos is stupid, in fact he has a very brilliant mind. but with a very cold, ruthless & selfish heart to match.
even up to this day, those observant enough to notice that ramos is still using his influence in pres arroyo's admin. what do i mean? does parliamentary govt system ring a bell to anyone?
so go figure. but this is just my opinion i got from an old timer who was a former crony himself & knows his way around a lot of stuff.
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Ako din naniniwala na si GMA ay corrupt at kapag hindi niya pa tinigilan eh malamang ang susunod kong maging reply eh "siya na ang pinaka"