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Espiya Sports [Sports lang tayo ==> Walang suntukan! ] => Sports Bar => : Master Dave March 11, 2013, 03:23:10 AM

: Balkman BANNED in the PBA
: Master Dave March 11, 2013, 03:23:10 AM
The letter by Commissioner Salud:

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2927/57913662636082738035688.jpg)
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: khaliwally March 11, 2013, 03:25:36 AM
you've been SERVED!  toast::
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: MasterChief63 March 11, 2013, 03:54:28 AM
Bits plis!  ::secret
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: ecko_d_pooh March 11, 2013, 04:18:01 AM
Fair Enough!  :applause
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: raginghormones March 11, 2013, 04:21:13 AM
boom!!! babay na balkman! :applause
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: Kurimasu March 11, 2013, 04:49:20 AM
Bow... ;D
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: NAPAKAPANGET March 11, 2013, 04:55:56 AM
That's too stiff
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: freeyourmind March 11, 2013, 05:22:33 AM
aberrant?decorum? haha what. pba na pala korte ngaun ? assault ang ginawa nya..naniko, sakal. pero ung slander...sobra na, did he actually threat his teammates? then he deserve it. pero kung putak ng putak lng,u dont need to be fined. this is whats wrong with the philippine system. chamba justice, bugsok. the only limits of freedom of expression is, if causing disturbance or "libel".
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: Master Dave March 11, 2013, 05:58:33 AM
did he actually threat his teammates?

He threatened to kill Calvin Abueva, though the exact quote was "I will kill him everytime we play (https://twitter.com/IvanCabochan/status/297712317603385344)"
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: KaMushroom March 11, 2013, 06:57:18 AM
aberrant?decorum? haha what. pba na pala korte ngaun ? assault ang ginawa nya..naniko, sakal. pero ung slander...sobra na, did he actually threat his teammates? then he deserve it. pero kung putak ng putak lng,u dont need to be fined. this is whats wrong with the philippine system. chamba justice, bugsok. the only limits of freedom of expression is, if causing disturbance or "libel".

Panoodin mo muna yung video, tapos balik ka dito ading.
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: MasterChief63 March 11, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
aberrant?decorum? haha what. pba na pala korte ngaun ? assault ang ginawa nya..naniko, sakal. pero ung slander...sobra na, did he actually threat his teammates? then he deserve it. pero kung putak ng putak lng,u dont need to be fined. this is whats wrong with the philippine system. chamba justice, bugsok. the only limits of freedom of expression is, if causing disturbance or "libel".

ano yung gusto mo ipahiwatig? ang gulo kasi n post mo eh, eto yun vid panoorin mo saka mo ayusin yung gusto mo sabihin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVF5eRuRooE

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVF5eRuRooE[/youtube]
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: zenith March 11, 2013, 07:11:01 AM
Tama lang to.  :applause
Buti nga di gumanti si arwind, sabagay laki ni balkman.
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: Dum Spero Spiro March 11, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
Sa tingin ko parang sobra naman yung punishment..
Proper decorum? eh nangyayari naman tlaga yung ganitong bagay.
hindi rin maiiwasan.. besides talagang kasama na sa laro yung init ng ulo.. its either sa rivals or teammates. ang masaklap lang sa teammates kase nangyari. Sana man lang medyo binabaan yung parusa.. parang wala din naman kaseng pinag kaiba sa suntukan ng mag kabilang grupo yan.. ito lang naman ang aking opinyon sa nang yari..
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: CokeZero March 11, 2013, 08:27:10 AM
I disagree. although Im not a fan of balkman's team or anybody else sa PBA but balkman did'nt show respect and professionalism as a player of PBA , PBA commissioner itself is a slight exsagerate. Sa NBA nga eh national na yan! rambolan ,suntukan sa mga fans, nakikipag hagisan pa ng mga drinks at foods eh sa PBA nangyari  
pwede naman idaan sa usapan na BANNED agad ang player? Di naman yata nka drugs yung tao baka pinakita nya lang yung saloobin nya kasi nakita nyu naman dun parang inihaw siya ng referee.
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: Yubi Akira March 11, 2013, 08:56:04 AM

suspension & heavy fine is enough punishment for Balkman pero lifetime ban sobrang mabigat lalo na at this point of the conference na ang Petron is one of the top favorite team. Maling mali ang ginawa ni Balkman at nde talaga tino tolerate ang ganoong behavior. Sayang ang talent at now that he is sent home.
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: Ilonggo-by-blood March 11, 2013, 08:57:07 AM

Balkman should Try MMA. Heavy division sa URCC hindi pa marami ang roster baka pwede siya and laking mama to..
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: kluverbucy March 11, 2013, 08:57:44 AM
Sir naman, hindi naman kayang patayin kada laro eh ibig sabihin nyan physical presence sa court banggaan papahirapan  etc.

Sigurado tuwang tuwa yung ibang fans ng ibang team kasi malaking threat talaga si Balkman kada laro, Kung magbabase lang kayo dyan sa video na yan talagang magfocus lang kayo dyan sa nangyari. Pero kung susurin nyo for the past few games lagi na yan nagrereklamo sa mga ref hindi tinatawagan yung pag hila hila sa jersey nya, paghawak sakanya pababa kada rebound walang tawag, ilang beses din siya bumagsak sa floor walang tawag. Dapat siguro magkaron ng magandang reform sa mga ref hindi na maganda ang mga nangyayari minsan masyado na halata ang pagiging Bias nila.

Hindi din natin mapagkakaila may naging kasalanan talaga si Balkman sa nangyari, He really deserves to be punished and yun na, naiserve na ang punishment wala na tayo magagawa dyan pero sana talaga magkaron ng reform sa officiating kada game.
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: shithole22 March 11, 2013, 09:14:19 AM
sobra naman yata ung parusa

ok na sana yung suspended for the entire season, sayang exciting pa na man panoorin ung balkman..
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: Master Dave March 11, 2013, 09:18:59 AM
He threatened to kill Calvin Abueva, though the exact quote was "I will kill him everytime we play (https://twitter.com/IvanCabochan/status/297712317603385344)"

Sir naman, hindi naman kayang patayin kada laro eh ibig sabihin nyan physical presence sa court banggaan papahirapan  etc.

though
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1. Despite the fact that; although: He still argues, though he knows he's wrong. Even though it was raining, she walked to work.
2. Conceding or supposing that; even if: Though they may not succeed, they will still try.
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: al de monte March 11, 2013, 10:37:37 AM
I disagree. although Im not a fan of balkman's team or anybody else sa PBA but balkman did'nt show respect and professionalism as a player of PBA , PBA commissioner itself is a slight exsagerate. Sa NBA nga eh national na yan! rambolan ,suntukan sa mga fans, nakikipag hagisan pa ng mga drinks at foods eh sa PBA nangyari  
pwede naman idaan sa usapan na BANNED agad ang player? Di naman yata nka drugs yung tao baka pinakita nya lang yung saloobin nya kasi nakita nyu naman dun parang inihaw siya ng referee.

dont compare NBA to PBA they have different culture. kung pwede sa kanila pwes, dito hinde. kung mild punishment dun pwes, dito hinde. 
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: Dum Spero Spiro March 11, 2013, 11:01:23 AM
dont compare NBA to PBA they have different culture. kung pwede sa kanila pwes, dito hinde. kung mild punishment dun pwes, dito hinde. 
nga naman tama si sir al de monte na hindi parehas ang dalawa. ang pinupunto lang siguro ni sir CokeZero ay parang mali o sobra yung parusa na binigay kay balkman. kumbaga eh excessive punishment. para lang yang isang lalakeng nahuling nang uumit ng tinapay dahil sa gutom, tapos ang ginawang kaparusahan ay kamatayan.
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: burnhito March 11, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
Tama lang yung penalty sa kanya... Sige sabihin natin na nanuntok nga siya... Ok lang yun marami namang suntukan na nangyayari sa mga sports... Pero hindi sya nanuntok... Nanakal si Balkman... Hindi ako abogado pero attempted o frustrated murder na ginawa nya. Parang may homicidal tendency eh... Mahirap kung may mga ganyang player...
Off the topic lang po...
Kung may mga dayuhan na nagkakasala dito sa pinas...  bakit may mga special treatment? Pero sa ibang bansa walang ganyan? Foreigners just have a special loophole in our justice... They just mocking us right in our face!!
Kung kriminal, kahit dayuhan dapat turing na kriminal...
Pinoy nga naman...

No! Im not a racist...
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: mangkepwing March 11, 2013, 12:40:03 PM
sana kayo nasa position nila arwind santos at nung mga ref. para masabi niyo hindi fair ang desisyon ng commissioner
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: Fossilized March 11, 2013, 01:14:27 PM
ang hirap sa aatin magaling pa tau sa commissioner e.. malamang sa malamang e dumaan yan sa masusing review ng PBA board at may payo ng attorney..

wag tau magsalita kung hindi pa natin nabasa ung pinirmahan ng mga players na parang agreement/contract or something.






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: batecola March 11, 2013, 01:43:51 PM
banned agad si Balkman? Dapat suspended na lang muna yung punishment sa kanya, mas matindi pa nga ginawa ni Arboleda eh
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: vhendell69 March 11, 2013, 02:59:11 PM
at 3:15..the Policemen, correct me if im wrong, was too stunned at what was happening they barely made a move..malaki rin talaga si Balkman, ung leeg ni Arwind, was almost covered by the entire hand of Balkman  :o
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: MasterChief63 March 11, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
at 3:15..the Policemen, correct me if im wrong, was too stunned at what was happening they barely made a move..malaki rin talaga si Balkman, ung leeg ni Arwind, was almost covered by the entire hand of Balkman  :o

mga Pulis ba talaga yun na nakaassign sa PBA games or baka mga nanonood lang, sorry di ko kasi alam if merong pulis na nakasign for security sa PBA games,
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: subicboy March 11, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
kahit gahigante pa siya o malaki pa cya kay shaquille, isang bala lang ang katapat nya, kaya dapat di mag-angas at relax lang hehe
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: SuPekTiBol March 11, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
aberrant?decorum? haha what. pba na pala korte ngaun ? assault ang ginawa nya..naniko, sakal. pero ung slander...sobra na, did he actually threat his teammates? then he deserve it. pero kung putak ng putak lng,u dont need to be fined. this is whats wrong with the philippine system. chamba justice, bugsok. the only limits of freedom of expression is, if causing disturbance or "libel".

kuya shabu pa! gulo mo e
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: sweetbayag2 March 12, 2013, 01:07:12 AM
Panoodin mo muna yung video, tapos balik ka dito ading.

hahaha  ::lmao
kuya shabu pa! gulo mo e

paki-english para maintindihan ni bibong balkman  ::lmao
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: MasterChief63 March 12, 2013, 01:10:13 AM
kahit gahigante pa siya o malaki pa cya kay shaquille, isang bala lang ang katapat nya, kaya dapat di mag-angas at relax lang hehe

hahahaha i love the IRONY in this one  ::lmao
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: jagger60 March 12, 2013, 01:22:52 AM
kung nanuntok lang siguro ay baka hindi nabanned ang mamang balkman, eh kaso nanakal eh. Pero dapat wala ng multa... opinion ko lang...
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: MasterChief63 March 12, 2013, 01:26:21 AM
kung nanuntok lang siguro ay baka hindi nabanned ang mamang balkman, eh kaso nanakal eh. Pero dapat wala ng multa... opinion ko lang...

if im not mistaked players or any sport in any country who violate rules get penalized(suspension or ban) and fined, almost every sport has it, malaki laki nakuha ng NBA kay Rodman back in the day

mas common pa nga ma multahan ang athletes kesa sa suspension or ban
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: quickster March 12, 2013, 01:29:15 AM
Tama lang yung penalty sa kanya... Sige sabihin natin na nanuntok nga siya... Ok lang yun marami namang suntukan na nangyayari sa mga sports... Pero hindi sya nanuntok... Nanakal si Balkman... Hindi ako abogado pero attempted o frustrated murder na ginawa nya. Parang may homicidal tendency eh... Mahirap kung may mga ganyang player...
Off the topic lang po...
Kung may mga dayuhan na nagkakasala dito sa pinas...  bakit may mga special treatment? Pero sa ibang bansa walang ganyan? Foreigners just have a special loophole in our justice... They just mocking us right in our face!!
Kung kriminal, kahit dayuhan dapat turing na kriminal...
Pinoy nga naman...

No! Im not a racist...

Correct. atsaka tama lang yung ginawa. at wag itulad kay arboleda kasi si arboleda naprovoke. eh etong si balkmanimal eh mga kakampi at sariling coaching staff ang inaway at during the game nangyari.
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: MasterChief63 March 12, 2013, 01:44:50 AM
the problem was walang umaaway sa kanya, he was only being pacified by his own team, for his own good, weve seen players of opposing teams have at it in brawls kasi 2 opposing sides, in this case the opposing side was him and his own team, pinipigilan lang sya pero naging aggressive sya masyado against his team, imagine what could have happened if he was having the friction with another team but we'll never find out now

at first i thought the ban was harsh, pero it could have been way worse kung  Balkman vs another team and bago pa mangyari yun the PBA was right to kick him out
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: buenaventurad March 12, 2013, 08:13:05 AM
bad for petron, good for others
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: rol_per77 March 12, 2013, 03:40:20 PM

 
  Ayon sa PBA media office, hindi banned for life ang import na si Renaldo Balkman :
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: MasterChief63 March 12, 2013, 03:56:47 PM
in other words SUSPENDED until further review... thats fair, he should be sent home back to the US and undergo an Anger Management course and when they see he has his temper under control then let him back in if he chooses to do so UNDER Probation
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: Master Dave March 12, 2013, 08:10:56 PM
"Management has decided to re-evaluate the company's participation in the PBA"

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nyan? Nag-threaten na aalis ang SMC (Petron, San Mig at Ginebra) sa PBA kaya babawiin yung ban?
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: BlueAlphaZero March 12, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
"Management has decided to re-evaluate the company's participation in the PBA"

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nyan? Nag-threaten na aalis ang SMC (Petron, San Mig at Ginebra) sa PBA kaya babawiin yung ban?

This is probably off-topic but wasn't there a coach who once called the PBA the "San Miguel Basketball Association"?
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: Master Dave March 12, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
This is probably off-topic but wasn't there a coach who once called the PBA the "San Miguel Basketball Association"?

I think that was during Noli Eala's term as Commissioner, and guess what? He now works for San Miguel Corporation.. He's actually the one who made that statement above..
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: BlueAlphaZero March 13, 2013, 04:15:11 PM
I think that was during Noli Eala's term as Commissioner, and guess what? He now works for San Miguel Corporation.. He's actually the one who made that statement above..

I did a little online research, Seigneur Master Dave. The person who made that statement was Bill Bayno, former coach of Loyola Marymount University and the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. He was the head coach for Talk 'N Text at that time (2002). Bayno was fined PhP 200,000 by the PBA. He is now an assistant coach with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
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: MasterChief63 March 13, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
"Management has decided to re-evaluate the company's participation in the PBA"

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nyan? Nag-threaten na aalis ang SMC (Petron, San Mig at Ginebra) sa PBA kaya babawiin yung ban?

wait did they actually verbalize or released a memo they would leave the PBA?

bigla atang naging Political Power Play ah
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: CokeZero March 14, 2013, 08:59:56 AM
dont compare NBA to PBA they have different culture. kung pwede sa kanila pwes, dito hinde. kung mild punishment dun pwes, dito hinde. 

talaga sir? sige sir iaaprove ku yan sa department of justice!  :applause
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: AnakNgPatis March 14, 2013, 10:06:19 AM
indeed Basketball is a contact sport no argue with that brothers.. Nangyayari talaga ang sikuhan minsan di maiwasan sapakan.. pero sa mga nagtatanga tangahan jan na "freedom of expression" bobo ka...... ang pagsakal ay INTENT TO KILL indi mo pedeng sabihin na dala lang ng init ng ulo.. tsaka "Mr. freedom of expression" pilipino ang sinakal kakampi kapa sa DAYUHAN?? Maiintindihan kita kung ginago siya ng pilipino pero indi naman..
Kung sa Basketball court palang ganyan na reaksyon niya pano pa sa labas ano na paguugali meron yang UNGGOY(i'm refering to balkman ALONE) na yan?? DAPAT DIRECHO NA SA AIRPORT YAN PARA PADEFORT!!!
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: BlueAlphaZero March 14, 2013, 11:09:08 AM
indeed Basketball is a contact sport no argue with that brothers.. Nangyayari talaga ang sikuhan minsan di maiwasan sapakan.. pero sa mga nagtatanga tangahan jan na "freedom of expression" bobo ka...... ang pagsakal ay INTENT TO KILL indi mo pedeng sabihin na dala lang ng init ng ulo.. tsaka "Mr. freedom of expression" pilipino ang sinakal kakampi kapa sa DAYUHAN?? Maiintindihan kita kung ginago siya ng pilipino pero indi naman..
Kung sa Basketball court palang ganyan na reaksyon niya pano pa sa labas ano na paguugali meron yang UNGGOY(i'm refering to balkman ALONE) na yan?? DAPAT DIRECHO NA SA AIRPORT YAN PARA PADEFORT!!!

Citoyen AnakNgPatis, I'm certain you can make your point without using the words I highlighted in your quote. Debate but don't denigrate.
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: Knight_RiderX March 15, 2013, 12:39:57 AM
mag-research muna ako bago mag-salita....