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Espiya Newstand (Current Events, Classifieds, Events) => Current Discussions => Military and Defense => : asanti June 21, 2012, 09:49:42 AM
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The Philippines is now upgrading its military capability after the Panatag standoff. The concentration of the modernization program is on the Philippine Air Force via procurement of fighter jets
Gazmin said the reported purchase of T50 fighter jets from South Korea is not yet definite as an evaluation team is still conducting “window shopping†in other countries.
“The T50 is just one of the candidates for our leading fighter jets,†said Gazmin.
A T50 costs some P1.2 billion and the Philippine government is planning to buy 12 fighter jets.
Another option is the Super Tucano in Brazil, he said.
Aside from fighter jets, the Philippine government is also planning to buy helicopters and other military hardware that would serve the need to strengthen the country’s territorial defense following the Scarborough standoff with China.
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dapat lang..... ty sa share brad
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T50? Yan yung masmalaki na kopya sa f22 di ba?
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in my opinion, at this moment it is much better kung air at naval defense na lang ang palakasin like buying surface to air at ground to ground missiles na lang ang bilhin. sa tingin ko saka na lang bumili ng jet fighters kung malakas na yung depensa natin dahil wala din itong silbi kung ngayon pa lang tayo magta-train ng mga pilots para gamitin itong mga bagong jet fighters.
at isa pa, no match etong bibilhin natin sa J-20 ng china which is equivalent sa F-22 ng US.
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kahit paano meron.. toast::
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Para sa akin para di tayo galawin ito ang kailangan natin. Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle or also know as MIRV. It can wipe out the entire military installation of the opponent. Libre lang mangarap eh. ;D
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For me ...i am just happy that we are now seriously looking at the sad state of our armed forces....just praying na wala sana corruption mangyari para ma upgrade na talaga
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j20 is a copy of f22. Pirated. Everybody knows the quality of a pirated product, especially pirated products from china.
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Okay na yung T-50 na multirole kaysa sa Super Tucano kasi yung Super Tucano is properel plane mo match yan sa J-10 ng china at least may pang-tapat
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Ito yata iyon
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Ito yata iyon
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LOL kala ko yung T-50 PAK FA. Golden Eagle pala hehehe.
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Hindi natin kaya iyon isa sa russia he he
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trainer jet na inarmahan lng..pang pondo lng ito ng korea na jet na dinedevelop nila with indonesia. may market ang affordable jet..specially sa mga developing nations..pero in truth mas superior ang mga 4th generation jet, like the f16,f18,mirage f1. but luma na..
http://www.tiptoptens.com/2011/02/26/top-10-best-fifth-generation-fighter-aircraft-projects/
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waste of money lang yan dapat sa naval na lang
dahil every take off nyan at every landing may na-expire na pyesa na kailangan palitan
eventhough pirated ang sa Instsik tignan mo naman nagagawa ng pirated nalulugi ang mga legit na company
pirated na 100 jet fighters na kasama pa si varyag against 12 t-5O at WW2 ship anong panama natin
nangyari sa mga F-5 natin yung iba dun na-cannibalized ang mga pyesa may docu na sabi ng mga piloto pumupunta pa sila sa quipo para bumili ng pyesa
mas maganda pa ang infiltration at maging terrorist sa china kaysa dito may ransom kapa konti manpower at konting equipment can create a chaos no need huge military arsenal
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Malapit na siguro matuloy yung deal with South Korea and its FA-50...
KAI is currently conducting final negotiations with the Philippines for the sale of 12 FA-50 aircraft at a cost of PHP18.9bn ($463.3m), to help the country's air force to counter airborne threats and also train its pilots on supersonic high-performance weapons platforms.
In addition to training, the aircraft will be used for interdiction and disaster response, reconnaissance and surveying operations.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newskai-to-supply-additional-fa-50-fighters-to-south-korean-air-force
The FA-50 was developed by Korean Aerospace Industries and Lockheed Martin and is currently the most advanced fighter version of the T-50 family of aircraft, which consists of:
-the T-50 Golden Eagle trainer version
-the TA-50 light attack version
-the FA-50 light multi-role fighter version
An even more advanced version has been proposed and is known as the F-50.
http://defenseupdates.blogspot.com/2013/02/philippines-to-buy-12-fa-50-fighter.html
(http://images.gmanews.tv/v3/webpics/v3/2013/06/640_2013_06_13_16_45_22.jpg)
At the 66th PHL Air Force anniversay, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin, along with Korean fighter pilot Heman Kwon, views a scale model of a South Korean-made FA-50 Light Combat Aircraft at the Airpower Symposium 2013 in Pasay City on Thursday, June 13.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/photo/39135/paf-marks-66th-anniversary-with-aircraft-exhibit
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kapag meron ba nyan, sure na ang safety ng pilipinas? matatakot na kaya ang mga foreign country sa atin nyan? di kaya instead na matakot sila eh matawa pa? just wonder kung anu impact nito sa Point of view ng ibang bansa towards sa pinas. PH is buying junk aircraft from korea, parang surplus lang.
Concentrate nalang sana sila sa ibang bagay na ppwede makapag pa asenso sa pinas, tutal mahilig naman ang pinas sa peace talks eh. sayang lang pera dyan. di naman magagamit at mabubulok lang yan.
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FA-50 is not as advanced as the high-end jets being used by US or European countries but when it comes to bang for buck, this aircraft is high tech enough. Hindi ito junk at surplus, ito din ang bibilhin ng South Korea to augment their own airforce ("FA-50 fighters will replace A-37 attack jets and F-4/F-5 fighters in the low-tier backup to the Air Force's high-end KF-16s and F-15Ks" - http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/rok/a-50.htm), bago yung bibilhin natin at hindi second hand.
Hindi pa natin kayang bumili ng super high tech jets. Ito pa lang yung kaya ng bansa natin. Kelan ba bibili ng gamit ang pamahalaan, kapag inaatake na yung bansa natin, madadaan mo ba sa peace talks yung papadating na kalaban? Mabuti kung gumagana ang peace talks pero paano kung hindi na ito umeepekto at wala tayong pangpitik man lang sa mga kalaban? Saka natin sisisihin ang pamahalaan na hindi naghanda at hindi bumili ng gamit.
Buying these kind of equipment for our armed forces doesn't mean China will fear us, it doesn't mean we are now safe from 1st world bullies like China, it just means we now have the capability to at least send a couple of these jets within our territory for whatever purpose it may serve.
Sabi nga ni Enrile, maghanda at maghasa man lang tayo kahit na itak lang.
The next president(Binay or Roxas or Revilla or Gordon) should continue to modernize our armed forces.
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ang daming model ng jet plane yan pa ang napili >:( :o ??? :applause gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun::
sayang lang ang pera ng taong bayan sa pambili ::inposition
daming mas modernong plane dyan
bumanat nanaman ang government natin
for sure meron ng nabulsa ang karamihan dyan
smoking::
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ang daming model ng jet plane yan pa ang napili >:( :o ??? :applause gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun::
sayang lang ang pera ng taong bayan sa pambili ::inposition
daming mas modernong plane dyan
bumanat nanaman ang government natin
for sure meron ng nabulsa ang karamihan dyan
smoking::
laffman:: dami naman reklamo, ayoko kay abnoy pero tingin ko wala tayong karapatan magdemand ng mas maganda kung wala naman tayo, yung binibili nga natin warship na galing america ay puro refurbished nga rin tapos yung mga nilalagay nating gamit dun ay mga pang world war 2 pa pero at least meron kesa wala pero kung may pera ka donate ka
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Anong fighter jet ang pwedeng mabili sa $464 million?
Kelangan 12 fighter jets din at syempre hindi ka pwedeng bumili sa China, Russia at NoKor.
Mag suggest kayo ng model ng jet fighter na comparable sa specs ng FA-50.
Baka nga may mas maganda pa na hindi nakita ng pamahalaan.
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Iba ang UAVs o drones kaya wag nating ihalo sa pagpipilian yun. Kelangan din natin yan pero stick to the topic of fighter jets muna.
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it is nice to hear na may ganon option tayo..good start to development..
sana nga lang maging maayos ang pag gastos ng pera..
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q0 or 12 jets for the philippines? someone is on a spending binge! in my opinion, 6 of those plus a couple of helis will be a better "upgrade" for the country's military capability upgrade. there are situations that such jets will not be "suitable" and helis will better serve the purpose and given that our helis are way too old, id rather have 6 jets plus a couple of "new" helis for a realistic upgrade. para lang yang perimeter defense for say 10 hectare lot - bumili ka agad ng 10 grenade launcher when in fact ang mga handguns na gamit ay lahat paltik at luma pa. id rather that the purchase be 2 grenade launchers and several handguns and rifles as well as miscellaneous items like COMMS, etc. that will be a better upgrade path.
TS, is this the only hardware included in the purchase program or there are other hardwares included?
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"The Philippine Air Force has chosen 12 KAI TA-50 aircraft to fulfill requirement for a light attack trainer. The Philippines Department of National Defence (DND) announced the selection of the type in August 2012.[61] Philippines' Congress approved funding for 12 trainer aircraft in September 2012.[88] However, the Korean government has stated that the aircraft had not been ordered and that the two nations have to first reach an agreement on its export.[89] In late January 2013, state media reported that the FA-50, not the TA-50 as earlier reported, was selected with 18.9 billion pesos (US$464 million) set aside for 12 aircraft; contract negotiations are underway.[90]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA-50#Possible_sales