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Espiya Lobby => General Topics => : hapi March 27, 2011, 09:18:10 PM

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: hapi March 27, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
mga kapatid na Espiya . . eto na naman ang walng konsensiyang Willie  . .  dapat ikulong na siya sa mga kababuyan niya . . na nagpapanggap na pag tulong sa mahirap . .  binbaboy niya pati bata . .  pwede ba boycott natin lahat ng sponsors ni Willie . . . .

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRCxh9q64w
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: deeper one zero March 27, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRCxh9q64w[/youtube]
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: xhetter03 March 27, 2011, 10:07:42 PM
Pedofile ka! Dapat sayo,
 gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun::
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: laces522 March 27, 2011, 10:59:33 PM
napanood ko ito..oa naman ng reaction...kakatuwa nga yung bata...di naman binaboy...ganun lang talaga sayaw nung bata ... ;D
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: hapi March 27, 2011, 11:39:00 PM
napanood ko ito..oa naman ng reaction...kakatuwa nga yung bata...di naman binaboy...ganun lang talaga sayaw nung bata ... ;D

kapatid na Laces . . . ewan ko kung may mga anak ka  . . . pero walang nakakatuwa sa pinagawa o di kaya pinayagang gawin ng isang anim na taong bata  . . ng katulad ng kababuyan na ito . .  kung nakita mo ito alam mong umiiyak yung bata . . kung bakit di  ko din alam . . pero marahil dahil sa kahihiyan  . . . ikaw ba papayag na babuyin ang anak mo o di kaya papayag ka ba na turuan ang anak mong "gumiling" ng ganito upang pag kakitaan . . . at pagtawanan ng milyong nanonood nito . . .  ang lukot isipin na ok lang sa iba sa atin ang ganito palakad . . . to degrade our children . . . to make a few pesos . . .  how can this be alright . . .
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: laces522 March 27, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
well, yung magulang nung bata pagsabihan mo...eh sila nagpasali dun noh.. :P
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: hapi March 27, 2011, 11:57:41 PM
well, yung magulang nung bata pagsabihan mo...eh sila nagpasali dun noh.. :P

hinahanda na ang charges against the parents/guardians and the host and station for violation of RA 7610 . . . . ang akin lang po ay nakikiusap ako sa mga spies na boycottin natin ang show na ito at mga endorsements nila  . . para matigil na ang ganitong kalakal . . .  kahit tayo dito sa Espiya  . . we protect children . .  di po ba . . . peace kapatid . . .
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: Xtremist March 28, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
hinahanda na ang charges against the parents/guardians and the host and station for violation of RA 7610 . . . . ang akin lang po ay nakikiusap ako sa mga spies na boycottin natin ang show na ito at mga endorsements nila  . . para matigil na ang ganitong kalakal . . .  kahit tayo dito sa Espiya  . . we protect children . .  di po ba . . . peace kapatid . . .
i condone din ang ginawa ni willie at boycott din ang sigaw ko. kapatid na hapi, post ka lang ng link para maback up ang sinabi mong hinahanda na ang charges.
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: kamoteng kahoy March 28, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
actually this is a sad testament to want local shows have become, di lang mga show ni willie, all channels are guilty of this, low brow humor with low IQ scripts in mind, all just catering to the masses wanting to earn the quick buck allowing themselves to be exploited.   
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: fatalerror March 28, 2011, 01:23:47 AM
napanood ko ito..oa naman ng reaction...kakatuwa nga yung bata...di naman binaboy...ganun lang talaga sayaw nung bata ... ;D

same here wala din akong nakitang masama sa & nakakatuwa nga rin.. no offense dun sa mga kasama kung espiya..
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: grecko23 March 28, 2011, 01:31:32 AM
same here wala din akong nakitang masama sa & nakakatuwa nga rin.. no offense dun sa mga kasama kung espiya..
i think the parents of the kid should be blamed... hndi naman si willie ang nagturo nun kundi yung magulang nung bata, nagkataon lang na sa show ni willie naipakita. and if u would notice before pa man sumayaw si janjan umiiyak na sya
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: KaMushroom March 28, 2011, 01:40:17 AM
bata lang un a? sa tingin nyo ba alam niya ginagawa niya? he's 6. probably grade 1. kung paglaki nya e gnun padin siya sumayaw edi problema na niya yon.
1st time niyo bang nakakita nang batang sumasayaw ng ganun? well 1st time ko sa TV. pero sa schools hindi.
walang malisya para sakanya yon, alam ba niya na ung sayaw na yon e stereotype na sayaw ng mga macho dancer?
edi napakababoy pala ng trabaho ng mga male entertainers?

kung may malisya man sainyo yung sayaw na un, sa bata, wala.
at kung lalagyan nyu man, kayo na may problema
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: highelf March 28, 2011, 01:46:23 AM
i watched the whole clip:

  -Guys lets face it... sa sobrang pagka hate nyo kay willie (with your reasons of course) eh minsan hindi na natin ina-analyze ung situation. We just go with the flow ika nga.....  
    The kid was crying not because pinapahiya sya or binababoy sya.... the kid cried kc una natakot sya kay bonel balingit and not because may sinabing masama si willie or binaboy sya or pnahiya sa audience in fact willie was praising him and calming him down
     Kung meron mang dapat sisihin d2 ay ung nagturo sa kanya na un ang sayawin coz eventhough hindi un ang sayawin nya eh iiyak pa rin sya kht otso otso or bumtarat pa ... Guys, lets try to open our minds more... ung iba nga putol ung mga clips na pinapakita ang inilalagay lang eh ung nasayaw ung bata pero hindi ung full version where you will see the reason why he cried.
    if you ill notice eh wala nmang sinbing masama si willie.
    Ewan ko lang ha... pero nakakasawa na kasi ung mga ganitong issues.... na ung iba nakikisali na lang....

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: laces522 March 28, 2011, 01:59:34 AM
i watched the whole clip:

  -Guys lets face it... sa sobrang pagka hate nyo kay willie (with your reasons of course) eh minsan hindi na natin ina-analyze ung situation. We just go with the flow ika nga.....  
    The kid was crying not because pinapahiya sya or binababoy sya.... the kid cried kc una natakot sya kay bonel balingit and not because may sinabing masama si willie or binaboy sya or pnahiya sa audience in fact willie was praising him and calming him down
     Kung meron mang dapat sisihin d2 ay ung nagturo sa kanya na un ang sayawin coz eventhough hindi un ang sayawin nya eh iiyak pa rin sya kht otso otso or bumtarat pa ... Guys, lets try to open our minds more... ung iba nga putol ung mga clips na pinapakita ang inilalagay lang eh ung nasayaw ung bata pero hindi ung full version where you will see the reason why he cried.
    if you ill notice eh wala nmang sinbing masama si willie.
    Ewan ko lang ha... pero nakakasawa na kasi ung mga ganitong issues.... na ung iba nakikisali na lang....


i like your analysis and superlike your point,hghihelf....over critical na kasi minsan mga tao kasi nga nauuna yung hatred nila for willie..
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: ratbukayo March 28, 2011, 02:46:50 AM
ayaw ko din kay willie, pero sa totoo lang, natawa ako don. mga magulang ang nagturo magsayaw, ano masisi natin kay willie don?
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: dark_machine March 28, 2011, 03:13:10 AM
Maraming show na ganyan. Si willie lang ang napapansin kasi easy target siya. Boycott lahat hindi lang yan kay willie.
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: brucewayne March 28, 2011, 03:27:46 AM
i watched the whole clip:

  -Guys lets face it... sa sobrang pagka hate nyo kay willie (with your reasons of course) eh minsan hindi na natin ina-analyze ung situation. We just go with the flow ika nga..... 
    The kid was crying not because pinapahiya sya or binababoy sya.... the kid cried kc una natakot sya kay bonel balingit and not because may sinabing masama si willie or binaboy sya or pnahiya sa audience in fact willie was praising him and calming him down
     Kung meron mang dapat sisihin d2 ay ung nagturo sa kanya na un ang sayawin coz eventhough hindi un ang sayawin nya eh iiyak pa rin sya kht otso otso or bumtarat pa ... Guys, lets try to open our minds more... ung iba nga putol ung mga clips na pinapakita ang inilalagay lang eh ung nasayaw ung bata pero hindi ung full version where you will see the reason why he cried.
    if you ill notice eh wala nmang sinbing masama si willie.
    Ewan ko lang ha... pero nakakasawa na kasi ung mga ganitong issues.... na ung iba nakikisali na lang....


I also dont like Willie but I agree with you.  toast::
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: albert_0184 March 28, 2011, 03:50:31 AM
napanood ko rin yon. walang ginawang masama si willie sa bata. yon ang talent ng bata. edi sisihin nyo ang nagturo sa bata paano magmacho dance...hehehehehe
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: xeoxander01 March 28, 2011, 05:38:05 AM
6 year olds grinding to sensual music.. on national television..

ganun na ba tayo ka babaw?..   smoking::
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: wyld_boy2003 March 28, 2011, 05:56:12 AM
On camera walang ginawa o sinabi si willie na masama,  Off camera di natin alam???

On willie's show all segments are scripted (ke guest ka o contestant) and is approved by none other than Willie.

Kung oobserbahan natin, umiiyak yung bata kasi natatakot siyang magkamali, be it yung
napraktis nyang script ("tatay ko may parlor" and "thank you sa pagdadala mo sa amin dito" uttered 2x to his father and tita) and yung dance number nya ... siguro naman di pa nya inabutan yung song that was played kaya di nya pipiliin yun, maniwala pa ako kung justine bieber song yun o kaya any song na mas IN sa mga bata.
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: haleer you March 28, 2011, 06:05:48 AM
none sense ang topic nan to promise
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: edjaydaya March 28, 2011, 06:08:10 AM
kapatid na Laces . . . ewan ko kung may mga anak ka  . . . pero walang nakakatuwa sa pinagawa o di kaya pinayagang gawin ng isang anim na taong bata  . . ng katulad ng kababuyan na ito . .  kung nakita mo ito alam mong umiiyak yung bata . . kung bakit di  ko din alam . . pero marahil dahil sa kahihiyan  . . . ikaw ba papayag na babuyin ang anak mo o di kaya papayag ka ba na turuan ang anak mong "gumiling" ng ganito upang pag kakitaan . . . at pagtawanan ng milyong nanonood nito . . .  ang lukot isipin na ok lang sa iba sa atin ang ganito palakad . . . to degrade our children . . . to make a few pesos . . .  how can this be alright . . .


di ako fan ni willie, in fact i swore to high heavens for what he did to the funeral of our late President Cory pero sa ibinabato nila ngayon kay Willie parang di yata tama, una hinde kinumbinse ni willie yung bata na sumali at kung bakit andun yung bata its the parents or guardians who were resposible, second, his  talents including the crying were the ideas of the parents or guardians again, walang kinalaman si Willie, third, the child was sent there to participate and hopefully win some money, again to the prodding of the parents or guardians.

With  these incidents, obviously, there was no direct participation of Willie, so if there will someone whoshould be directly responsible it should be the parents or guardians, accidental villain lang si Willie, kaya kung palalakihin ng mga self proclaimed moralists ng ating society ang kaso na yan, eh, i focus nila dapat sa mga parents or guardians, wag gawin na si Willie ang nag initiate ng lahat ng mga nangyari o pangyayari. Huwag nyong ihambalos ang lahat sa mukha ni Willie.
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: 2fear! March 28, 2011, 06:18:22 AM
wala akong nakitang masama dun... over reacting lang tayo siguro...

sa umpisa pa.. napaiyak na talaga ang bata... nahaluan na ng kaba dahil pinag tatawanan siya...

di naman si willie may utos na ganun ang sasayawin ng bata...

ipapa boycott si willie? di nga pina boycott yung mga ufc at mga wrestling...

eh mas brutal yun para sa mga bata... kahit tawagin pa yung sport at entertainment...
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: Ms. X March 28, 2011, 06:22:08 AM
Naluluha na ako nung umiiyak yung bata..(mababaw lang luha ko) tapos nung sumayaw hindi din ako natawa.. astig nga kasi ang lambot ng katawan nung bata.. nung sinabayan ni Willie.. natawa na ako.. ang sagwa!  laffman:: tigas ng katawan..  ::lmao
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: Dairycow March 28, 2011, 06:23:11 AM
ang OA nyo naman. hehehehe.

hindi ako fan ni willie pero hindi naman din karapatdapat na sa kanya ibintang ang mga bagay na ito.
nalalaswaan kayo sa ginawa ng bata, eh sino ba yung nagsabi na malaswa yun? 'di ba kayo rin naman?  :D

it's a plain dance accompanied by a sexy music. tapos. ang nagsabi lang na malaswa yan ay yung may makamundong isip.
6 years old lang ang bata imposible na alam niya yun.

pustahan po tayo kahit si barney pasayawin ninyo ng ganyan malalaswaan kayo.  ;)



'tayo ang nagiging makamundo, dahil tayo ang nagibbigay kahulugan sa mga nakikita natin.
itigil naman na natin ang fault finding
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: gammans64 March 28, 2011, 07:00:58 AM
In my own opinion, I dont think na mabigat ang kasalanan doon para parusahan din ng mabigat. alam nyo ba kung anong ibig sabihin ng salitang BAN or BIKTIMA? (I am referring to all the posts here regarding willie's action).

First: Hindi naman si Willie ang pumili ng sasayawin ng bata. Sa isip ng bata ay magpapakita siya ng kanyang talento sa pagsasayaw. hindi lahat ng tao merong ganung katawan. tingnan mo si willie parang kahoy na narra. Tayo lang ang nagbigay ng kahulugan sa scenario na yun.

2nd: Merong alintuntunin o criteria para sa criticism ng isang scenario. Nag comment ba ang MTRCB ba yan?

3rd: Kayo lang nalalaswaan kami hindi. depende kasi yan sa artistic look natin. Di ba kayo nalalaswaan sa mga tunay na lalaking malalaki ang muscle pero nag sasayaw ng ballet? ewwwwwan!

4th: Dun kayo dapat malaswa dun sa mga dancer niya na halos makita na ang mga umbok ng kanilang mga puke. Palibahasa gusto ng mga manyak yun kaya hindi nag rereklamo.

5th: lastly payag ako na e ban ang show ni willie dahil sa mga girls nya at hindi sa ginawa sa bata. try to read the RA 9262. However, mahirap e ban ito dahil milyones na rin naitulong ni willie sa mga kababayan natin.

Pasensya na mga ka espiya. di ko idol si willie pero ito lamang ang saloobin ko hinggil sa issue natin ngayon dito.
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: gammans64 March 28, 2011, 07:02:51 AM
may pahabol pa ako

try nyo e search ang meaning ng BINABUY. dun kayo sa google para klaro. Sa tingin ko hindi akma ang salita dun sa scenario na yun.
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: kidd_gilagid March 28, 2011, 07:20:36 AM
Boy abused in ‘Willing Willie,’ DSWD says

MANILA, Philippines – The Department of Social Welfare and Department (DSWD) has stepped into the controversy involving television show “Willing Willie” and a 6-year-old boy who was made to dance in a lewd manner in exchange for P10,000.

The DSWD, in a press statement Monday, said the incident that aired March 12 on TV5 is clear case of child abuse.

“The sequence shows the boy gyrating in a distasteful manner with the audience, including the host (Willie Revillame), manifesting no evidence of concern or alarm for the child,” the agency said.

“This incident is clearly a violation of Republic Act 7610 or the Special Protection of Children Against Abuse, Exploitation and Discrimination Act and a blatant manifestation of child abuse,” it stressed. 

 The DSWD said child abuse includes the following acts: “psychological and physical abuse, neglect, cruelty, sexual abuse and emotional maltreatment,” and “any act by deeds or words which debases, degrades or demeans the intrinsic worth and dignity of the child as a human being.”

“Putting pressure on children to do acts such as mimicking adult sexy dances, in exchange for a certain amount of money, and at the expense of being laughed at and ridiculed by hundreds of people, clearly traumatizes the child,” it added. 

“This is a clear form of child abuse and will not be tolerated by the Department of Social Welfare and Development,” the statement said.

The department said it has gotten in touch with ABC Development Communication chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan and asked that children should not be allowed to appear in TV shows like Willing Willie “especially those capitalizing on poverty as a source of immediate entertainment.”

In its letter to Mr. Pangilinan, the DSWD also rebuked Revillame’s “insensitive actions and remarks.”

The government agency also revealed that it will look for the boy’s family, determine the incident’s effect on the child and determine if necessary counseling should be given to the child and his parents.

The incident has set social media networks like Facebook and Twitter on fire. Blog entries condemning the show and its host have also been published online.

Twitter users condemned the incident while a campaign was launched on Facebook to raise the issue to the authorities:


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/03/28/11/boy-abused-%E2%80%98willing-willie%E2%80%99-dswd-says (ftp://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/03/28/11/boy-abused-%E2%80%98willing-willie%E2%80%99-dswd-says)
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: abusado2 March 28, 2011, 07:26:39 AM
Kunting update lang po Re: willi and boy macho dancer


DSWD calls for censure of Willie for boy 'macho dancer;' Willie says sorry

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/216365/entertainment/dswd-calls-for-censure-of-willie-for-boy-macho-dancer-willie-says-sorry
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: abusado2 March 28, 2011, 07:35:42 AM
Another update lang ulit ho

Briefer on “WILLING WILLIE”
BRIEFER ON “WILING WILLIE” REGARDING COMPLAINTS OF CHILD ABUSE
The Board received numerous complaints about the 12 March 2011 episode of “Willing Willie” aired over Kapatid Network TV5 where a six-year old boy contestant was shown to be gyrating and impersonating the body movements of a macho dancer.
In accordance with the Board’s duty to enforce the Constitutional mandate that the State shall defend the rights of children from all forms of neglect, abuse, cruelty, exploitation, and other conditions prejudicial to their development, the Board has referred the matter to the Hearing and Adjudication Committee for appropriate disposition.
The Board further emphasizes that whenever children are featured in television programs, producers are mandated to observe legal standards stipulated in R.A. 7610 to avoid “psychological abuse xxx cruelty, sexual abuse and emotional maltreatment” and “any act by deeds and words which debases, degrades or demeans the intrinsic worth and dignity of the child.”


(Sgd.)MARY GRACE POE LLAMANZARES
Chairperson

http://mtrcb.gov.ph/2011/03/briefer-on-willing-willie/
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: Yubi Akira March 28, 2011, 08:06:12 AM


 nde na magbabago yan si Revillame! nawala nga Wowowee sa tv 5 naman nagkakalat nang lagim yan. yun nga lang nde ko napapanood yang show niya kse  mas gugustuhin ko manood nang news
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: kitaulomo March 31, 2011, 12:39:04 AM
baka mainlove kayo kay willie nyan mga kuya hehehe  ::pampam
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: capoeirista March 31, 2011, 05:23:10 AM
it doesn't matter kung sino ang dapat managot dito.

una: may screening dapat ang mga contestant regarding their talents. kung sayaw man o pagkanta o pag arte, dapat yung appropriate sa age. wag na yung sayaw, pakantahin nyo yan ng "modelong charing" which is not also appropriate to the age of the kid. point is national television should be "viewer friendly". may tamang lugar para sa lahat ng bagay, UFC nga eh late night pinalalabas, kasi nga tulog na mga bata ng ganung oras.

pangalawa: yung makita mong ganun na ang sayaw ng bata, dapat di na nya pinaulit. pero pinaulit pa rin, dun pa sa umaangat na flatform with matching dancers on the side, na occasionally humahawak-hawak sa bata. isn't that exploitation?! saka bata yun eh, parents should teach their youngs properly. inosente ang bata, alam naman natin ang tama at mali. pero dahil nakakatawa nga, hinahayaan natin na ganon.

di lang ako natuwa na dahil kasi "bibigyan ka ng pera", kaya ayos lang na pagsayawin ang bata kahit hindi akma sa edad nya ang kanyang sasayawin.

madaming paraan para magpasaya ng tao. pero wag naman sana sa paraan na magbibiro ka at makakasakit ka ng tao, sa kalooban man yan o pisikal. kung siguro sila sila ng mga host ang gagawa sa isa't isa ng mga "jokes" nila, (which is pwedeng ni rehearse nila backstage) walang ibang ma-ooffend...

 :D  :D  :D  :D
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: spell April 02, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
@gammans64
First: Hindi naman si Willie ang pumili ng sasayawin ng bata. Sa isip ng bata ay magpapakita siya ng kanyang talento sa pagsasayaw. hindi lahat ng tao merong ganung katawan. tingnan mo si willie parang kahoy na narra. Tayo lang ang nagbigay ng kahulugan sa scenario na yun.

Hindi nga siya ang pumili pero siya ang host. Wala akong nakita na nakakatuwa dun sa sinayaw nung bata. Ni hindi ko nga malaman kung bakit sinasabi ng iba na talento daw un. Aling parte dun sa ginawa nya ang matatawag na talent? Talent sa pagiging macho dancer? Pedo lang ang maaaliw sa ganung klase ng talento.

Kayo lang nalalaswaan kami hindi. depende kasi yan sa artistic look natin. Di ba kayo nalalaswaan sa mga tunay na lalaking malalaki ang muscle pero nag sasayaw ng ballet? ewwwwwan!

Pedo ka nga? Lol. Artistic look. Which part of it was artistic?

Dun kayo dapat malaswa dun sa mga dancer niya na halos makita na ang mga umbok ng kanilang mga puke. Palibahasa gusto ng mga manyak yun kaya hindi nag rereklamo.

Certified pedo. Una, hindi appropriate ung sayaw niya sa telebisyon dagdagan mo pa na bata ung gumawa. Ano sa tingin mo?
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: grecko23 April 02, 2011, 06:18:33 PM
totoo ba na nagpullout yung mga sponsors ni willie?
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: metal1369 April 02, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
pano naman un mga batang babaeng todo giling ala sexbomb with matching sexy outfit.
wala ba magrereklamo sa mga ganun. halos lahat na ata ng variety show sa tv nagkaroon ng ganun ah.

yun mga batang lalaki sa going bulilit, na pinag dadamit babae at umaastang bakla? sa pananaw ko hindi maganda, pero wala nagrereklamo.

kung magrereklamo sila wag lang yun palabas ni willie, lahatin na, lumalabas tuloy na si willie lang ang target at hindi mismo yun ginawa ng bata.

darating ang araw. wala ng contest na pambata or artistang bata na lalabas kasi matatakot na ang mga tv shows at baka may magreklamo.
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: raberdaki April 02, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
sa bata walang malisya yun tayo matatanda ang nagbibigay ng malisya
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: doney April 02, 2011, 09:37:45 PM
baket kaya andaming insecure na mga ka espiya dito kay willie? bakit kaya hehehe laffman::
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: worce April 02, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
Kung hindi pina ulit ni willie na pasayawin ang bata okay pa, kung naaliw man sya pwede niya ipagawa off-cam yun.
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: grecko23 April 02, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
baket kaya andaming insecure na mga ka espiya dito kay willie? bakit kaya hehehe laffman::
paano mo naman nasabi na insecure mga kaespiya natin kay willie revillame?
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: Erotomania April 02, 2011, 11:28:15 PM
ewan ko ha? pero ang tingin ko, ang OA ng karamihan ng tao sa atin... as in sobrang OA!!!

ok una sa lahat, hindi ko gusto si willie, in fact inis na inis ako sa taong yan dahil sa sobrang kayabangan, natuwa nga ako nung nawala yan sa ABS CBN eh...

but this time, wala akong nakitang mali sa ginawa niya, siguro sa sobrang inis na lang ng mga tao sa kaniya ay konting kibot, konting salita ay hahanapan na siya ng butas

aber, ano ang masagwa sa ginawa ng bata?? nag muwestra ba yung katawan niya na parang meron siyang ka sex? kumanyod kanyod ba yung balakang niya na parang may sinisex na babae?

ang hirap kasi eh bakit ba kapag sumayaw lang ng ganun eh sasabihin sa macho dancer na? sasabihin na bastos? eh malumanay nga yung kilos ng bata eh hindi nga mabilis o magaslaw, at hindi bastos.... itanong ninyo sa sarili ninyo kung bakit parang bastos? kasi bastos ang utak ng karamihan sa atin.

oh heto ha! hindi ba kayo nababastusan sa mga katulad ng sexbomb girls at iba pang dancers na ang suot ay kita na ang mga kaluluwa? at yung mga kilos nila ay hindi ninyo maitatatwa na magaslaw, at masarap sa mga paningin ng lalake yung mga mahaharot nilang kilos kasi parang nag aanyaya ito ng sex dahil makikita mo naman sa kilos ng mga katawan nila.

tapos heto yung bata sumayaw lang ng ganun, pormal naman ang suot tapos sasabihin bastos na??

kung talagang gusto ng mga nagpapanggap na moralista diyan na itaas ang moral sa mga tv program ay unahin muna nilang punahin yung mga dancers na kita na kaluluwa tapos parang na eexorcist sa kama kapag sumasayaw, batikusin na din nila yung mga sexy stars na lumalabas ang cleavage on national television etc....
 
kapag ginawa nila yan, 70% ng mga programa sa ABS CBN, GMA at TV5 ay mawawala sigurado, dahil ang lahat ng mga pambato ng programang yan ay mga babaeng handang magpakita ng kaseksihan!
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: lorkanx44 April 02, 2011, 11:36:32 PM
i watched the whole clip:

  -Guys lets face it... sa sobrang pagka hate nyo kay willie (with your reasons of course) eh minsan hindi na natin ina-analyze ung situation. We just go with the flow ika nga.....  
    The kid was crying not because pinapahiya sya or binababoy sya.... the kid cried kc una natakot sya kay bonel balingit and not because may sinabing masama si willie or binaboy sya or pnahiya sa audience in fact willie was praising him and calming him down
     Kung meron mang dapat sisihin d2 ay ung nagturo sa kanya na un ang sayawin coz eventhough hindi un ang sayawin nya eh iiyak pa rin sya kht otso otso or bumtarat pa ... Guys, lets try to open our minds more... ung iba nga putol ung mga clips na pinapakita ang inilalagay lang eh ung nasayaw ung bata pero hindi ung full version where you will see the reason why he cried.

for me may tama ka dyan tol! ako di rin ako sang ayun kay willlie minsan pero this time parang oa na eh! parang sa tingin ko ang mga bumabatikos kay willie dito ay mga naiingit lang sa kanya!  over analyze lng siguro ang mga nanunood!
    if you ill notice eh wala nmang sinbing masama si willie.
    Ewan ko lang ha... pero nakakasawa na kasi ung mga ganitong issues.... na ung iba nakikisali na lang....


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: ssbongbong April 03, 2011, 12:28:56 AM
kapag si willie ang target,papalakihin..aysus..
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: spell April 03, 2011, 02:08:25 AM
Unbelievable. April Fool's Day parin ba?

There's a kid who danced something that even when done by adults is still considered inappropriate and still can't figure out what the fuck is wrong with that scenario? Seriously?
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: ratbukayo April 03, 2011, 02:30:55 AM
as i said, natawa ako sa video. it was surprising to see janjans dancing style was different from what i was expecting. magaling yung bata magsayaw. in reviewing the video, may point siguro yung iba na sana di pinaulit ng ganon kadaming beses. especially at the end na nilagay pa siya sa pedestal, may mga babae sa baba na nagsasayaw din na parang tunay na macho dancer si janjan.
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: foshizzle April 03, 2011, 04:20:01 AM
i'm not a fan pero hindi din naman ako asar kay willie, ang mahirap pagdating sa issue ni willie, di lang fans nya ang nanonood sa kanya... pa'no nga naman hindi mag-rate ang show n'ya? he keeps on being relevant because people keeps talking about him. totoo naman na nakakatulong ang show nya sa masses at nasa industriya siya na ratings ang pinaglalabanan, pero no one can deny na he gets his ratings in the expense na din ng tinutulungan nya... ang bawat kwento, bawat luha at pati kahihiyan na "willing willie" na i-share ng maka-masang sumasali, nanood at tumatangkilik sa kanya at sa kanyang palabas ang nagpapaikot sa programa.  tanggap ko na may power at may impluwensya na si willie pero kalimitan at hindi natin ma-itatanggi na ginagamit nya ang impluwensya at kapangyarihan niya sa mga ganitong sitwasyon, instead to take responsibility at humingi ng dispensa, sasabayan nya ng batikos ang mga critics nya just because he knows he have a following and their support no matter what.

willie is not all to blame, perfect example na nga itong latest nya na issue... willie claims he has not seen the boy nor the parents before the actual show, he runs the entire show and therefore should know every single detail, both the parents' said it was their idea and defended that there was nothing malicious sa pinagawa nila sa kanilang anak, (i believe they underwent psychological check as requested by dswd) at supposedly "careless whisper" pa ang gustong music ng mga magulang na pinigilan daw ng staff ng show... the very point that the staff made changes sa accompanying music dun sa gagawin ng bata, surely they must have had a hint na "MAYBE" something's wrong with what this kid is doing...

i could watch his shows pero segment-segment lang, i really could not watch any of the crying and sobbing parts at 'yung mga paawa na parts ng shows... i understand they can get people to support and help them by showing these segments, but i can't help but think that it's also about the ratings. there must be some other and better way to get that. that's the same reason why i prefer late night newscasts over primetime newscasts. you may think na pareho lang ang laman ng newscasts sa late night at sa primetime... actually they are, wala lang sa late night news 'yung pag-focus sa end ng segment sa umiiyak na biktima at 'yung pagpapakita ng pagsapak ng biktima sa suspect sa police station. back to willie's show, pag nadadaanan ko ang show nya and i don't like it, sa halip na maasar  ako sa kanya dahil sa pagkatao nya o dahil panget ang show nya or for what ever reason that you can think of, i'd rather swith to another program and enjoy my TV time.  i also have to admit, there has been really entertaining and funny things and really worth watching that go around in his shows. ECAEP!
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: Yubi Akira April 03, 2011, 05:00:33 AM

  kung OA ang reaction nang mga anti revillame dito siguro walang basehan ang pag aapologize nang mga executives nang show. kung OA ang reaction nang mga espiyang negative ang naturang "jan jan" segment sa show siguro walang basehan ang pag rereklamo nang ilang sectors nang society pati na rin ang DWSD at ang pag iimbestiga nang MTRCB. ganun talaga ang mga tagapanood  nang television mapagmasid at sa puntong may kalabisan sa karapatang pang tao o pambata sa palagay ko tama lang naman na punahin nde lang si revillame kung nde pati ang show.
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: Don April 03, 2011, 10:09:27 AM
madami lang inggitero, hmmpp.
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: noxiousx3 April 03, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
dapat yung magulang yung iblame dun kasi di naman matututo ng ganong klaseng sayaw yung anak nya kung d nila tuturuan.. kung natuto man sa ibang tao yng batang yun dapat di na kinunsinte ng magulang. sa hirap ng buhay talaga ngayon di maiiwasang gumawa ng mga magulang ng mga kakaibang estilo para lang mapansin yung uniqueness ng anak nila. kawawang bata... tsk tsk
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: taong_grassa April 03, 2011, 01:03:43 PM
opinion ko lng to mga ka-espiya pero mukhang nakahanap ng butas yung abs cbn para tirahin si willie at tv5, bigla umalma din ang DSWD at CHR the following days then nakarinig na tayo sa MTRCB.. tapos na pansin ko rin sa yahoo ph sunod sunod yung pahayag nila kay willie na dapat nga ba daw sya mawala sa ere...? sa tingin ko pu-pukpukin ng malacanang anex este abs cbn ang willing willie at tv5 para bumagsak ang ratings nila kc napansin ko rin malakas ratings ng tv5 mula hinahawakan ni MVP, naging laman pa sila ng pahayagang wall street journal dahil sa trending ng willing willie... matagal na nakamasid yung abs cbn sa willing willie na kumilos ng mali...maaari mali ang paqsayaw ng bata habang umiiyak pero para sa akin nasa isipan na ng mga tao.. mas marmi pang problema ang lipunan natin na dapat tutukan ng DSWD at CHR kesa manood sila ng willing willie.. smoking::
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: yamatoyukihiro April 03, 2011, 01:27:47 PM
it's really hard to comment base lang sa clip na napanood ko sa news. We have to at least see the whole segment to make any sound conclusions kasi ang dating talaga sa akin is nafeed lang sa mga tao na wrong yung nangyari. Was seeing a crying kid on tv wrong? I dunno, why was he really crying in the first place? Was the dance inappropriate? I dunno either, I've seen a lot of contestants dancing in a similar manner before while the hosts were laughing so why call this foul all of a sudden?? ???

One thing I do know, additional publicity lang mabibigay nyan kay Willie and he'll make it through with barely a scratch, just like he always did for more than a decade already.
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: miyabi2 April 03, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
ayaw ko nang mag comment baka mapag initan nanaman ako  laffman::

panoorin nyo nalang to ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9fBsecGH4&feature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9fBsecGH4&feature)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT0TP4ADZ0U&feature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT0TP4ADZ0U&feature)
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: HEIDERN April 03, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
ayaw ko nang mag comment baka mapag initan nanaman ako  laffman::

panoorin nyo nalang to ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9fBsecGH4&feature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9fBsecGH4&feature)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT0TP4ADZ0U&feature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT0TP4ADZ0U&feature)
ayan na ang no.1 supporter ni willy hehe.....kahit sa ibang forums todo depensa sya kay willy
: Re: victima ni Willie nanaman . . .
: jaguartiu April 05, 2011, 10:07:28 PM
This MORON named Willie claimed his mission in life is to make his viewers happy. How can he make other people happy where his own family is not happy with him? We know how battered his previous wives including his new born baby!!!
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: yamatoyukihiro April 06, 2011, 02:14:38 AM
This MORON named Willie claimed his mission in life is to make his viewers happy. How can he make other people happy where his own family is not happy with him? We know how battered his previous wives including his new born baby!!!

oh? ano po nangyari sa baby niya?
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: alamat April 06, 2011, 02:41:01 AM
“Putting pressure on children to do acts such as mimicking adult sexy dances, in exchange for a certain amount of money, and at the expense of being laughed at and ridiculed by hundreds of people, clearly traumatizes the child,” it added.

Dapat pala wala na tayong mga child actors and actresses.
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: Idiot April 06, 2011, 03:20:55 AM
ha hahaha MGA OA ang mga Iba dyan

heto anong kaibahan yung mga nakabakat na ang puke ng mga dancers sa ABS-CBN at GMA 7 dun sa bata sa TV5

my cousin were pro sa macho dancing tinuturuan nila ako hanggang ngayon e matigas pa den katawan ko e dun sa bata e masagwa yung sayaw nya para sa macho dancing kung titignan mong mabuti wala lang

mas masagwa pa nga yung mga sayaw ng EB babes, sexbombs at mga ibang dancer ng ibang istasyon na halos makita na yung kuyakot kung moral issue ang pag uusapan

 
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: Yubi Akira April 06, 2011, 04:37:23 AM


may batas sa mga minor at child protection kaya yun ang tinitignan pero kung adult walang nilalabag na batas. regulation lang nang mga tv network at self regulation para nde malatigo nang mtrcb. kung kayo may anak na bata at ganun magsayaw papayagan nyo mapanood sa tv? child exploitation yan.
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: MasterChief63 April 06, 2011, 05:12:09 AM
um i guess yung inis talaga natin kay willie is making us take the situation WAY OUT OF CONTEXT and reading to much into something as simple as what happened

1) my first reaction was yes mali talaga when ir ead about it
2) when i watched it pinanood kong maigi and found nothing as extreme as exploitation or child abuse
3) as said the boy did cry because of Bonel, pati ako maiiyak dun eh
4) willie had not intent to exploit the child dancing, was willie getting money or is the boy getting payed for dancing as he did? were there pedophiles going online to pay willie or the boy for intentionally doing that in the segment? its simple, willie made the boy dance eh yun yung alam nung bata

i dont hate willie but i dont particularly like him either pero we should be atleast more objective about the crap that comes out nowadays instead passing judgement without analyzing the situation 1st
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: capoeirista April 06, 2011, 05:33:37 AM
ang mga batang artista, kailangan ng working permit at parents consent bago makapag trabaho as artista. they were directed how/what to do in shoots. may guidance yang mga batang artista, may mga managers pa yan. bago ipagawa ang isang scene dyan, nasala na nila yan. pero yung nangyari kay janjan, may pagkukulang talaga eh. may mga napapanuod din akong mga contestant na bata pero ang sayaw hindi ganun. it's either hiphop, ballroom, etc.. parang hindi kasi pinag isipan ipinagawa sa bata. ang dami daming talent na pwedeng ipagawa sa kay janjan eh. nakaka frustrate lang para sakin.
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: bakekong12345678 April 06, 2011, 09:51:26 AM
akala ko pinasayaw ni willie. di naman pala. I think kaya umiyak yung bata ay dahil sa ingay at hiyawan ng mga tao, medyo natakot. di naman sapiitan na pinasayaw. un lang talaga ang talent niya. but then again, di rin dapat itolerate ng magulang na ganun ang sayawin ng anak, di ata appropriate un. so tingin ko malaki ang role nung magulang dito.

opinion ko lang naman.
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: Yubi Akira April 06, 2011, 10:22:42 AM


 nag sorry na executive nang willing willy, kinastigo na nang DSWD at ini imbestigahan nan nang MTRCB, pati mga civil societies, mga advertisers. nde lang ilang taga espiya ang nagko komento na explotation talaga ang ginawa sa bata. OA ba yun? kung kayo magulang nang bata ganun kayang klase nang sayaw ipagagawa nyo sa show? tsk tsk tsk...
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: Idiot April 07, 2011, 02:34:19 AM
may batas sa mga minor at child protection kaya yun ang tinitignan pero kung adult walang nilalabag na batas. regulation lang nang mga tv network at self regulation para nde malatigo nang mtrcb. kung kayo may anak na bata at ganun magsayaw papayagan nyo mapanood sa tv? child exploitation yan.

nagamit mo na den
The very words exploit means to use unfairly for one's own advantage. Sexual abuse can take the form of child exploitation for example, by photographing the child in a compromising situation, with the intent to either use the photos for their own sexual stimulation or to sell the photos as pornography. It can also mean kidnapping and selling children into prostitution, or even just forcing someone younger and weaker to do your will.

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/212286

if you watched closely in youtube if there is force you can see the relatives aggression towards the child but if you watched closely even the aunt wants to cry and thanking willie even the father was laughing if there is force that makes the child to dance like that the staff of TV5 will notice it

kung kayo may anak na bata at ganun magsayaw papayagan nyo mapanood sa tv?
mali ang ginamit mong question because you are asking a opinon to satisfy your question the most appropriate is tama ba yung ginawa ng father at tinuruan sya ng ganun, tama ba na tinolerate ng community ang ginagawa ni JAN-JAN. if the society accepts what JAn-Jan did to their neighborhood and nobody told him that what his dancing is bad therefore he perceive what he did is right. bago dinala dyan e impossibleng di sya sumasayaw ng ganyan it means the whole community itself is liable not only willie. the whole community is liable to the moral oblgations if some people believe that willie is a exploiter what about the community i think the community itself was a accomplice to the crime     
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: gammans64 April 11, 2011, 07:44:51 AM
[quote author=Idiot link=topic=130960.msg1040486#msg1040486 date=13021580

To Spell: Palibhasa kain lang ang nalalaman mo. Please define PEDO.... using webster dictionary para matauhan ka. Dont judge me because you are not in a position to judge a person especially you dont know me even my nick.  laffman:: laffman::
            Kung may anak ka diyan na bata. Try mo tanungin kung alam ba nya ang sayaw ng isang macho dancer. Except na lang kung ikaw ay macho dance din im sure alam nya yan.
 smoking::
Try to read this.

The very words exploit means to use unfairly for one's own advantage. Sexual abuse can take the form of child exploitation for example, by photographing the child in a compromising situation, with the intent to either use the photos for their own sexual stimulation or to sell the photos as pornography. It can also mean kidnapping and selling children into prostitution, or even just forcing someone younger and weaker to do your will.

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/212286

if you watched closely in youtube if there is force you can see the relatives aggression towards the child but if you watched closely even the aunt wants to cry and thanking willie even the father was laughing if there is force that makes the child to dance like that the staff of TV5 will notice it

kung kayo may anak na bata at ganun magsayaw papayagan nyo mapanood sa tv?
mali ang ginamit mong question because you are asking a opinon to satisfy your question the most appropriate is tama ba yung ginawa ng father at tinuruan sya ng ganun, tama ba na tinolerate ng community ang ginagawa ni JAN-JAN. if the society accepts what JAn-Jan did to their neighborhood and nobody told him that what his dancing is bad therefore he perceive what he did is right. bago dinala dyan e impossibleng di sya sumasayaw ng ganyan it means the whole community itself is liable not only willie. the whole community is liable to the moral oblgations if some people believe that willie is a exploiter what about the community i think the community itself was a accomplice to the crime     

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: gammans64 April 11, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
@Idiot : sorry I accidentally deleted some links when i quoted your opinion above. :
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: Joey De Leon April 11, 2011, 08:19:15 AM
hayy wala talagang kadala dala etong si papi tsk tsk!
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: Chaquan May 05, 2011, 08:25:36 PM
tatsächlich ist dies ein trauriger Beweis für lokale zeigt, dass du geworden, di lang mga zeigen ni Willie, werden alle Kanäle Schuld an diesem, niedrige Stirn Humor mit niedrigem IQ-Skripte im Auge, die alle nur Verpflegung für die Massen wollen die schnelle Mark verdienen Zulassen selbst zu nutzen...
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: ryleightorres June 02, 2011, 01:39:18 PM
I was able to watch this episode live when it was aired. To be honest, I don't think Mr. Willie Revillame did anything wrong. It was the child who danced that way by himself. Watch the video carefully and you'll see that Wille did not pushed that boy in anyway. I'm not a fan of whoever I'm just saying what I saw and what I believe in. Also, I find it  funny  ::lmao . I dont think  that it should be taken this serious.