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Espiya Sports [Sports lang tayo ==> Walang suntukan! ] => Sports Bar => : yobyob February 28, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
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nangangamoy sweer nga ba? sana, Pure Doods ako eh! haha! :applause :P toast::
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LOL... game 7 yan.. malulugi sa kita e hahaha.. pba pa..
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malamang sweep ng Purefoods kung panig pa rin ang mga referees sa kanila...
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makontrobersyal ang mga referees ngayon ng PBA. palugi na talga..
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panget ng mga tawag.. nung game 2, referee ang nagdecide ng outcome.. tapos yung kanina, dumugo na nga ilong ni Miller sa last play, di pa tinawagan ng foul.. :applause
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Noong game 2 kilatis lang halos yung pagkakadikit ni devance kay kerby raymundo pero tinawagan ng foul, kanina yung tira ni devance saka ni willie miller nung huling possession tumaob na talaga sa pagkakabangga yung dalawa wala pa ring foul, pero ganoon talaga. Nangangamoy sweep talaga pero amoy pa lang yan hehehe... :-)
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LOL... game 7 yan.. malulugi sa kita e hahaha.. pba pa..
Pakamatay ka pag hindi game 7? Don't act like a smart ass 'still holding on as cool' old man.
If you look at the basketball scene, PBA is the premier league. Every local talent will aim a roster spot in 10 PBA teams. Not only that, they have to battle against Fil-ams and other half breed Filipinos (I'm against it so I cheer for the least half breed infested teams - Purefoods!). A hundred and fifty players. That's it. All the local talents in the span of what 10 years? 10 draft classes squeeze into 150 man roster.
Now, take time to realize how much talent you must have to get into that. Look at how the difference of talent level between those players are distributed in each teams. Now, inside the PBA, there's a "sorting" happening. Not all teams can afford premier players. So you further squeeze the best to the top 9 teams? That's what 135 players of the last 10 years in 9 teams. What do you get? Players playing at high (equal) level.
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There has been some inconsistencies regarding the officiating, but regardless, it won't change the outcome, it has been decided. I am a pure Alaska Fan way back, and i still believe. Sana lang Tim Cone wont whine, cause it will lead to nothing. Siyempre Alaska fan ako, kinukuwestyon mo yung foul ni Devance nung game 2 at yung drive ni Devance at Miller nung dying seconds kanina, dun mo malalaman na merong konting inconsistency in the referees part. Ang masakit lang eh 1 point lang ang lamang ng parehong game, pero andyan na yan, wala ng magagawa 3-0 na, ang magagawa na lang nating mga Alaska Fan eh wag sumuko at sumuporta hanggang huli! :) At sana lang wag ma foul trouble si Thoss, dahil pansin ko rin eh pag nadampi ang konting katawan ni Thoss sa purefoods player eh may pito agad. Wag susuko, itatag ang lakas ng Gatas! Hahaha!
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kikomantot - OK I'm confused. How can you call it inconsistencies when all you cited were all the same side? Based on what you mentioned, its consistent. It's all in PF's favor. Another thing, Tim Cone should whine. He should lay it out there that he's disappointed with how the officials handled each game of the finals. Not only the coaching staff, the owners and players should bitch out if they really believe they lost the game because of missed and wrong calls. They should whine. They should complain. They should be firm and be dead on precise.
How about Miller's two late turnovers?
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SMC Teams have most of the top players through trades.... laffman:: laffman:: laffman::
nakakasakit panoorin lalo na tuwing nag-cocollapse yung team lalo na the last two games... ganun talaga.... one game at time.....
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@ 123kid123 DUGO mo sir. mahahayblad ka nyan.. cool ka lang... Pero id stick to my argument.. game 7 yan. PBA PA. mas ok parin ang DATING PBA.. ngayon ewan ko na. by the way 20 palang ako. kung coolness lang pag uusapan mag-NBA nalang ako.
pahabol: palitan na ng pangalan yan. FABA na dapat.FABA for Filipino-American Basketball Asso. LOL
PAHABOL PA ULIT. Ang galing galing mo mamuna! Para kang ewan! LOL
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Please keep personal opinions of others to yourself. Please stay on topic. ::dontflame
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parang sweep nga sir.. mukhang dehado tlaga eh.. anlalaki ng line up nung Purefoods.. palaging nalulugi sa box out.. sasabayan pa ng mga refs.. gusto ko sana alaska mg champion.. nkakasawa na kasi puro nlng team ni Danding ung lagi champion..
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@ 123kid123 DUGO mo sir. mahahayblad ka nyan.. cool ka lang... Pero id stick to my argument.. game 7 yan. PBA PA. mas ok parin ang DATING PBA.. ngayon ewan ko na. by the way 20 palang ako. kung coolness lang pag uusapan mag-NBA nalang ako.
pahabol: palitan na ng pangalan yan. FABA na dapat.FABA for Filipino-American Basketball Asso. LOL
PAHABOL PA ULIT. Ang galing galing mo mamuna! Para kang ewan! LOL
Pasensya na kasi pang-tanga lang kasi opinyon mo (tulad ng sabi mo wala kang alam). Sana naman kasi kung may ipopost yung may laman naman. Hindi lang makapost lang para makapost. Kahit 'man lang nasa topic yung opinyon. Ang topic ay yung Finals series at hindi yung Association mismo.
Wala ka naman pala ka-alam-alam (ikaw na mismo nagsabi niyan), wag ka na mamahagi ng ignoranteng opinyon.
Do you even know how ignorant and misleading your [FABA] suggestion was? With that name, Americans can enter the league as opposed to just half-americans.
@Moderators - I may have used 'unwanted' words in this post but not out of nothing. He indirectly called his opinion "ignorant" and he claimed he was not aware of the topic in specific. I only put his statements in one word.
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123kid123, as you have mentioned, it seems like you are very much aware of the use of "unwanted" words. And regardless of your awareness of it, you still chose to use such words. I really like your passion you put in your arguments. However, you let your emotions get the better of your good judgment. Please stop using these "unwanted" words. You very well know that it's not allowed, yet, you still do so. Please use more caution next time. We are here to exchange thoughts and points of view; not to give insult and run people to the ground.
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buhay nanaman pala tong to si 123kid smoking::
sana ma ban ulit ::dontflame
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ginerbra team ko.. wala ako kinakampihan sa 2 team,pero pansin ko talaga yung mga ref, inconsistent talaga,,parang panig sa purefoods talaga.. garabe kita naman yung body contact sa katawan ni miller pag bagsak ni reavis pero hindi tinawagan..bakit nung game 2 si devance tinawagan ng foul? tsktsk.. bayad ang mga ref dito
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OK I'm confused. How can you call it inconsistencies when all you cited were all the same side? Based on what you mentioned, its consistent. It's all in PF's favor. Another thing, Tim Cone should whine. He should lay it out there that he's disappointed with how the officials handled each game of the finals. Not only the coaching staff, the owners and players should bitch out if they really believe they lost the game because of missed and wrong calls. They should whine. They should complain. They should be firm and be dead on precise.
How about Miller's two late turnovers?
Game 2, Devance fouled Raymundo, pinatira muna nung referee si Kerby bago tumawag, kitang kita sa replay, nakababa na si Kerby nung tinawag yung foul. And the contact is even below minimal.
Game 3, Devance drove to the basket, 2 ang sumabay, can't remember who, there was a lot of contact, and there is no call. Dumugo pa ilong ni Miller, still no foul called.
Miller's two turn-overs? Simple. Breaks of the game. Sir 123kid, based on the info above, i think there is really an inconsistency in the refs part in the way that "They will call this kind of foul on Alaska but not on Purefoods". Ang Alaska madikit lang ng konti, foul.
And Tim Cone bitching out? Not this time, when he's down 0-3. Magpaplano na lang siya kesa mag reklamo. They are not Talk N Text afterall. Its Joaqui Trillo's job to whine and cry, not Cones.
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@up - First of I would like to share my opinions on both events. In game 2, its clear from the replay that JDV went in Kerby's space. That's foul by definition and a specified guideline in a pump fake situation that if the defending player invade the offensive player's space then its automatically a foul -leaning forward as opposed to jumping straight. In game 3, again same situation this time it was Miller who has claim of the space since he was the one who jumped first. Reavis clearly initiated the bump after the shot was release. It's also a clear foul in the same principle of player's safety -ex. putting a foot under a player who in the air. Both were fouls.
Now the argument or claim of the opposing public was the foul shouldn't have been called or the game should not have been decided like that, by the referees. In other words, it's a no call despite the minimal contact (still a contact). And that is what happened in the closing seconds of the game 3. They let the players decide the outcome of the game. The referees listened to the complaints and suggestions flooded off the should have been no call in game 2.
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sana wag lng ma sweep nakakahiya haha
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sweep na yan Go Purefoods.... nung pinabagsak ng team ko ang SMB alam ko na sila ang magchachampion kasi SMB talaga ang pinakamabigat & pinakamalakas na kalaban. Solid ang front line namin kahit si Mr. Rico of the year pa lang hirap na hirap na alaska sa kanya plus #1 pa kami sa offense. isa pa during crucial stage hindi kami basta-basta natataranta & kinakabahan di gaya ng alaska nawawalann ng composure sa game. malas pa nila kasi kami may energy players kami like rico & ping na wala sila.
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Now the argument or claim of the opposing public was the foul shouldn't have been called or the game should not have been decided like that, by the referees. In other words, it's a no call despite the minimal contact (still a contact). And that is what happened in the closing seconds of the game 3. They let the players decide the outcome of the game. The referees listened to the complaints and suggestions flooded off the should have been no call in game 2.
onga naman.. the refs aren't incosistent, they're just sarcastic.. ;D
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Nanunuod pa kayo ng PBA? nyahaha.. Pulos team na ni danding yung nandun eh. Pati referee nasa payola ng San Miguel Basketball Association. Bulok pa magpalakad si barrios, lalong lumubog yung PBA sa kanya. PBA-pure garbage. smoking::
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And that is what happened in the closing seconds of the game 3. They let the players decide the outcome of the game. The referees listened to the complaints and suggestions flooded off the should have been no call in game 2.
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WTF? what kind of argument is this? referees should adhere to the rules and should never listened to outside pressures. In the NBA, referees doesn't call that kind of foul in devance in the dying seconds of the game, hence, the saying that the refs doesn't decide the outcome of a game but the players. That kind of foul(or was that a foul on devance?) can be acceptable if it was committed in the earlier part of the game, but in the dying seconds? definitely a boo-boo, unless the foul was hard.
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teams owned by cojuangco's just swapping their championships to one another.
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hindi makatarungan ang mga tawag ng refs...
kahit si Norman Black sabi "That was not a very good call"... (Game2 - nung hindi naman kumagat sa fake si DeVance)
Boooooooooooooo!!!!!
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pakinggan nyo naman yung 123kid.. hahaha ::lmao
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panget ng mga tawag.. nung game 2, referee ang nagdecide ng outcome.. tapos yung kanina, dumugo na nga ilong ni Miller sa last play, di pa tinawagan ng foul.. :applause
I think wala nang time nang masanggi ni reavis si Miller...which is di na pwedeng tumawag ng foul pag wala nang time...
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I think wala nang time nang masanggi ni reavis si Miller...which is di na pwedeng tumawag ng foul pag wala nang time...
buti na lang may Youtube.. watch it again.. ;)
[youtube]9N-MnpB57iM[/youtube]
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I think wala nang time nang masanggi ni reavis si Miller...which is di na pwedeng tumawag ng foul pag wala nang time...
ilang beses nireplay kitang-kita naman na wala ng foul. dun naman sa game 2 tama lang naman na tinawagan ng foul si devance sumabit naman talaga sya kay kerby saka kitang-kita naman dahil sa pagkakaasabit nya naapektuhan yung tira ni kerby kaya kapos. si devance talaga ang mali dun alam nya ng wala ng oras & nasa penalty sila eh.
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si devance naman talaga ang dapat sisihin sa game 2. in regards naman sa drive ni devance at miller sa dying seconds ng game 3, hindi na nila tatawagan yon kasi yun yung reklamo sa mga referees sa game 2, yung dapat na "Let Go-play" na lang dapat imbes na foul? that's what happened, hinayaan na lang ng mga referees ang play sa dying seconds kasi yon na ang gusto ng mga nagrereklamo. smoking::
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Yeah i think consistent naman ang referee with regards to that....in dying seconds if yung shooter ang nagiinitiate ng contact let go yun...kasi naman si devance dapat straight n lang yung tira nya but he chooses to bump ang depensa saka tumira.....
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And that is what happened in the closing seconds of the game 3. They let the players decide the outcome of the game. The referees listened to the complaints and suggestions flooded off the should have been no call in game 2.
WTF? what kind of argument is this? referees should adhere to the rules and should never listened to outside pressures. In the NBA, referees doesn't call that kind of foul in devance in the dying seconds of the game, hence, the saying that the refs doesn't decide the outcome of a game but the players. That kind of foul(or was that a foul on devance?) can be acceptable if it was committed in the earlier part of the game, but in the dying seconds? definitely a boo-boo, unless the foul was hard.
You said: referees should adhere to the rules and should never listened to outside pressures.
You ended with: That kind of foul(or was that a foul on devance?) can be acceptable if it was committed in the earlier part of the game, but in the dying seconds? definitely a boo-boo, unless the foul was hard.
Holy opinion! Blindly follow the rulebook.. then don't call soft fouls if the game is on the line? See what happens if you share opinion without even thinking or (say) informing yourself?
So you think the rule book states there are violations that can only be called during the end of the game.. and there's another set of violations (which is foul in this topic), rather the definition of 'foul' changes throughout the game time?
Also, don't argue with the NBA as your focal reason. It's IRRELEVANT (There that's such a nice word). Simple thing, the topic is the finals game of this conference's in the PBA. Not the NBA or how things handled in the NBA compared to PBA. If you don't watch the local scene (PBA) then don't even bother sharing an uninformed (There you go again!) opinion.
@Moderators - I think you should also issue a statement regarding posts "Nanonood pa ba kayo ng PBA?". That's really.. (you know what I really want say).
When I post something, I try to be relevant as much as possible. I state current specifics and avoid general point of view.
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LOL... game 7 yan.. malulugi sa kita e hahaha.. pba pa..
O patiwakal ka na?! Ano paliwanag mo ngayon? Napaghahalataan dito sa espiya mga walang laman ang utak kung hindi mag-magaling kahit na (ulit) utak lata.
Ako nagmamagaling ako pero in-topic ang arguments ko. Hindi 'above topic' na pang-walang alam.
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wala na kayong magagawa champion na purefoods
sa mga nagsasabing benta.....ewan ko sa inyo paniwalaan nyo gusto nyo.haha
purefoods got alaska's number this time..they played great.great series (kahit na sweep)
2nd conference na agad
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champion kami yahoo... lakas ni mr. rico of the year!