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Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« on: February 01, 2013, 06:21:32 pm »
Gusto ko lang malamang ang opinions nyo or experience nyo pagdating sa Core i5 (Sandy)

1. Ano ang maximum memory na pwedeng gamitin?
2. Depende ba ito sa board or CPU?
3. Pag sinabi ng Laptop manufacturer na 8GB ang maximum memory gusto mo pa bang taasan or na try mo ng dagdagan pa?

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 06:42:50 pm »
Gusto ko lang malamang ang opinions nyo or experience nyo pagdating sa Core i5 (Sandy)

1. Ano ang maximum memory na pwedeng gamitin?
2. Depende ba ito sa board or CPU?
3. Pag sinabi ng Laptop manufacturer na 8GB ang maximum memory gusto mo pa bang taasan or na try mo ng dagdagan pa?


1) Max memory depends on the specs ng manufacturer of the motherboard pero most desktops go to a max of 32gb

http://ark.intel.com/compare/52206,53445,53446,64844,53448,52207,52208,55446,64843,52209,52210,52211,52212,65647

2) Board dependent kung ano yung max cap at max speed at kung kaya nya mag overclock at over/under volt ng Memory
3) pag sinabi ng laptop manufacturer up to 4gb or 8gb yun lang lang talaga, there is no way to put more than what its specified max cap is

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 06:49:32 pm »
3) pag sinabi ng laptop manufacturer up to 4gb or 8gb yun lang lang talaga, there is no way to put more than what its specified max cap is

Sino nag a-agree dito?

Pag 8GB max di na pwedeng gawing more than?

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 07:05:29 pm »
Sino nag a-agree dito?

Pag 8GB max di na pwedeng gawing more than?

i havent tried it myself in fear of hardware damage, pero ang limitation kasi dito is of your slots can SEE passed the limit, low end laptops see a max of 4gb, mid range see 8gb and higher end up to 32gb

odds are placing more than 8gb on the laptop it will not boot since your placing something its not physically meant to see/use since its a hardware issue and not a software issue

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 07:15:45 pm »
odds are placing more than 8gb on the laptop it will not boot since your placing something its not physically meant to see/use since its a hardware issue and not a software issue

So true, dapat merong guts and glory and willing na mag gamble ng pera. Nag try ako kahapon lagyan ng 16GB ang laptop ko and nag work naman.

Test Laptop: HP ProBook 4230s (Core i5 2.5GHz) - datasheet says max memory is 8GB.
CPU-Z Vlidator: http://valid.canardpc.com/2676836
Status: No issues so far.

Test Scenario: Allocated 12GB memory for VMware ESXi 5.1 (utilized only 10.5GB)
Test Result: No issues, no hung ups, no BSOD.

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Actually 3 laptops ang na try namin. Unang test laptop is Acer which is two weeks ng running on 16GB. Then kahapon 2 HP laptops at akin yung isa. all have 8GB max per datasheet.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 07:22:46 pm by Telesforo »

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 07:20:26 pm »
max memory is dependent sa board (usually on the number of slots it has - can be 2, 4, 6) since lower end boards will only allow up to say 8GB, or 16GB while the higher end ones can go up to max of 96GB (6 sticks of 16GB but mahirapan ka maghanap ng single stick na 16GB)

mostly sa mga laptop pag nakalagay sa page ng manufacturer na up to a certain amount lang, yun lang talaga since its a motherboard limitation (wala ka magawa dito other than replace the board itself and in laptops, its better to just buy a newer one than to replace a motherboard). although there have been some cases that people have been able to fit more than what is indicated. example, sabi ng manufacturer max of 8GB lang siya (2 slots), but you can actually fit 2 8GB sticks so you can go up to 16GB, pero this is rare, mostly pag sabi ng manufacturer up to 8GB, hanggang dun lang talaga yan

in my case, my laptop has 8GB installed, the manufacturer (MSI) says a max 16GB upgrade is possible BUT since it has 4 slots, you can actually go up to 32GB (if you replace the 2 pre-installed which is in another slot. yung slot na nakikita mo pag buksan ang likod na dalawa is for the expansion slots only, hindi mo makita ang pre-installed unless buksan mo buong laptop)

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 07:26:29 pm »
So true, dapat merong guts and glory and willing na mag gamble ng pera. Nag try ako kahapon lagyan ng 16GB ang laptop ko and nag work naman.

Test Laptop: HP ProBook 4230s (Core i5 2.5GHz) - datasheet says max memory is 8GB.
CPU-Z Vlidator: http://valid.canardpc.com/2676836
Status: No issues so far.

Test Scenario: Allocated 12GB memory for VMware ESXi 5.1 (utilized only 10.5GB)
Test Result: No issues, no hung ups, no BSOD.

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Actually 3 laptops ang na try namin. Unang test laptop is Acer which is two weeks ng running on 16GB. Then kahapon 2 HP laptops at akin yung isa. all have 8GB max per datasheet.

so what was the point of asking when you already knew the answer  ???

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 07:28:47 pm »
so what was the point of asking when you already knew the answer  ???

Good question. My point is

1. Ano na susunod mangyari?
2. Ano unang masisira?
3. Bakit nakalagay na max 8GB if pwede naman palang maging 16GB?

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2013, 07:35:33 pm »
Good question. My point is

1. Ano na susunod mangyari?
2. Ano unang masisira?
3. Bakit nakalagay na max 8GB if pwede naman palang maging 16GB?

actually thanks for bringing it up kasi balak ko bumili ng HP G7 AMD Trinity na max 8gb, at least i can try 16gb on it knowing di naman masisisra, if it doesnt work ill repla ce the 16gb with 8gb

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 07:39:36 pm »
one reason is during the time that the product came out, ang available was only 8GB, baka hindi pa available ang 8GB single stick (kung luma ang product)

kung bago naman, it might the same as my case, ang expansion slot is up to that point only, you can expand beyond the limit mentioned if you open the entire laptop and replace the pre-installed one

usually this is a manufacturer decision. para siguro hindi masira agad ang buong laptop, they will provide just one (or two) expansion slots for memory which can usually just accomodate one 8GB single stick

the laptop you are using might also be not intended for high end purposes so the manufacturer only says up to 8GB (marketing nila so if you want something that can go higher, you will buy the higher version instead)

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 07:59:06 pm »
one reason is during the time that the product came out, ang available was only 8GB, baka hindi pa available ang 8GB single stick (kung luma ang product)

kung bago naman, it might the same as my case, ang expansion slot is up to that point only, you can expand beyond the limit mentioned if you open the entire laptop and replace the pre-installed one

usually this is a manufacturer decision. para siguro hindi masira agad ang buong laptop, they will provide just one (or two) expansion slots for memory which can usually just accomodate one 8GB single stick

the laptop you are using might also be not intended for high end purposes so the manufacturer only says up to 8GB (marketing nila so if you want something that can go higher, you will buy the higher version instead)

I agree kaso lang with the high prices ng high end workstations out there, napa bili lang ako ng pre-owned para lang may magamit sa review. Na curious lang ako yesterday to put 16GB and positive results naman.

I guess lahat ng NEW boards ngayon ng laptop supported na ang 16GB or more (gamble mode parin).

Sana lang wag bumigay agad.

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 02:44:03 am »
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I agree kaso lang with the high prices ng high end workstations out there, napa bili lang ako ng pre-owned para lang may magamit sa review. Na curious lang ako yesterday to put 16GB and positive results naman.

I guess lahat ng NEW boards ngayon ng laptop supported na ang 16GB or more (gamble mode parin).

Sana lang wag bumigay agad.

you can do that if you are in europe and state iba ang warranty nila and mas mura latop nila bagsak nga ang negosyo nila sa computer repair sa states dahil mura na lang laptop at desktop

pero kung dito sa Pinas mo gagawin yan at sinadya mahirap na

and kahit lagyan mo pa din ng 32GB e di naman lahat gagamitin ng desktop or laptop ang memory

sa topic

1.Depende sa MOBO kung ano ang designated maximun memory 
2 YES
3. YES dahil may mga consequences na pwedeng mangyari  kung itataas pwedeng mabilis ma-drain ang battery  pero kung mayaman at 30K ang allowances sa isang araw  why not atleast para malaman namin

kung nagtitipid hintayin natin ang result ni telesforo after 2 years kase di mo naman makikita kaagad ang effect nun

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 02:45:23 pm »
and kahit lagyan mo pa din ng 32GB e di naman lahat gagamitin ng desktop or laptop ang memory

Kaya nga ginawa kong 16GB kasi kapos sa memory dahil sa vmware na ginagawa ko. Kung may 16GB ng isang module sana pwede ko ring subukang lagyan ng 32GB para mas marami akong magagawa.

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 02:41:55 am »
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Kaya nga ginawa kong 16GB kasi kapos sa memory dahil sa vmware na ginagawa ko. Kung may 16GB ng isang module sana pwede ko ring subukang lagyan ng 32GB para mas marami akong magagawa.

har har har har that's exception to the rule umiinit ba ang laptop mo

my cousin dell upgraded her laptop memory ang bilis ma-drain ng battery at umiinit from 2GB to 6GB this is the effect we experience

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 05:22:36 am »
my cousin dell upgraded her laptop memory ang bilis ma-drain ng battery at umiinit from 2GB to 6GB this is the effect we experience

Umiinit lang sya pag naka bukas lahat ng VMs ko and using 14GB to almost 16GB at talagang dinig mo yung fan na naka 6-speed na kumbaga. At ginagawa ko lang yung pag bukas ang aircon. Normal usage ko is 4GB. Sa tingin ko walang kinalaman ang pag drain ng battery sa upgrade ng memory. Depende yung sa ginagamit mo.

Kung Processor dependent ang apps mo for sure iinit ang CPU at bibilis ang ikot ng fan in which mas mabilis mag kunsumo ng battery (if hindi naka plug sa power source). Yung battery ko 7hours standby, 4 to 5 pag Safari lang open at browsing. 4 hours Max pag na Wi-Fi.

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Re: Max memory ng Core i5, ano dependencies nya?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 04:10:41 am »
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Kung Processor dependent ang apps mo for sure iinit ang CPU at bibilis ang ikot ng fan in which mas mabilis mag kunsumo ng battery (if hindi naka plug sa power source). Yung battery ko 7hours standby, 4 to 5 pag Safari lang open at browsing. 4 hours Max pag na Wi-Fi.

ganun pala yun  nag-eedit kami ng mga movies it is pain in the butt ang bilis ma drain