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may baril kaya matapang ::laffman naka Benz pa kaya lalong yumabang
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sa tingin ko kaya nya nilabas ang baril kasi may screw driver/balisoyong ang taxi driver...first few seconds sa video kita2 na pinigilan nyang maka labas ang taxi driver...
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intense ampota Hahaha pati ako kinakabahan!!! mahirap talaga maging matapang sa panahon ngayon bala ang sasagot sa tapang mo!!! Tanggal ang tapang ni TAXI driver, maglalabas kapa ng Screw driver mo, ayan gatilyo ang kaharap mo!!! Humabol dahil napahiya, bwenas mo maliwanag nangyari kung gabi at walang nakakakita tudas ka!!! Hahahahahaha
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papano ka hindi mabububwisit diyan sa mga taxi driver, kung tumakbo nasa pagitan ng 2 lane tapos laging nakasalaksak sa tabi mo agad, dapat diyan binaril na lang ng naka benz yung gulong nung taxi para di humabol
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Parehong nagtatapang tapangan ang hirap ngayon maging mainit ang ulo sa daan. Mga kaespiya ingats lang sa pagmamaneho pero wag din kalimutang magdala ng konting gamit pang self defense. Pero dapat hindi mapag walang bahala itong incident para matuto yung ibang drivers at mayayabang sa daan.
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burado na agad?
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may baril kaya matapang ::laffman naka Benz pa kaya lalong yumabang
gun owner here. napanood mo ba video? nilabas nya lang nung may hawak ng sharp na bagay si taxi driver nung lumabas sa taxi. dont judge too quickly. pa torta nga sir!
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kulang yung istorya wag muna mag judge. kahit nauna naglabas ng weapon yung taxi driver nasa loob naman siya ng taxi nya. so medyo complicated to. haha
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nakalabas na siguro yung weapon ni taxi driver nung nasa loob pa lang kaya ayaw siguro palabasin ni benz owner.
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nagulantang yung driver kaya nga bigla siyang napaatras sabay nag-delaying tactic by kicking the door while taking his gun out, kasi nga naglabas ng weapon yung taxi driver, yun ang start nung video.
Taxi driver pu#sied out nun lumabas na yun baril kaya hinagis niya yung patalim pabalik ng kotse haha! Tapos nung naconclude niya na hindi rin papalag kahit may baril ayun habol siya ulit.
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Mga boss merong may mirror nung vid?
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eto mirror. natisod ko lang yan ha
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdxHaSiklo#t=25[/youtube]
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buti di pinutukan.may panaksak yung taxi driver.nahagingan yata sa tyan yung may hawak na baril.
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gun owner here. napanood mo ba video? nilabas nya lang nung may hawak ng sharp na bagay si taxi driver nung lumabas sa taxi. dont judge too quickly. pa torta nga sir!
i do have a gun also , but you don't have to carry your bag na may baril tapos loaded
in our State it is illegal to carry your gun loaded inside your car magazine ( loaded or not ) and bullets should be at the trunk , gun should be empty and must be inside a container other than the glove box
Unless your living in Texas , where everyone are prohibited to carry a gun
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Hindi manlang ba kayo nagtaka kung bakit may kutsilyo yung taxi driver? Dude is driving a PUV. Wala akong kinakampihan kasi parehas naman silang mali. Dinadaan lahat lagi sa init ng ulo eh.
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i do have a gun also , but you don't have to carry your bag na may baril tapos loaded
in our State it is illegal to carry your gun loaded inside your car magazine ( loaded or not ) and bullets should be at the trunk , gun should be empty and must be inside a container other than the glove box
Unless your living in Texas , where everyone are prohibited to carry a gun
But then again hindi natin alam kung bakit may dalang baril at sharp object ang dalawa. Siguro businessman si benz owner. (Pinsan ko kasi businessman lagi sya may dalang maliit na baril) tapos siguro si taxi driver ay depensa nya against holdaper. Dapat ma tulfo tong dalawang to at mapagharap. Misteryoso ting pangyayaring to. Pero base sa video si taxi driver ang punot dulo.
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Nasa harap pa sila nang PNP lol, correct me if i'm wrong pero eto yung tulay sa edsa na pababa sa pnp headquarters sa may santolan...anyways, natawa lng ako dun sa ngcocomment sa vid, tang ina sabi nya "Wala walang baril yan.", biglang bumunot nang baril yung lalake hahahahahahahahaha sabay nung hinabol na nung taxi driver yung naka benz sabi nung kumag ulit na jan na "Magkakatapusan yan!" pero walang nang yari hahahaha...sobrang kalma nung kasama nung naka benz, todas siguro yung taxi driver kung gabi ngyare yan.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH_8bvj3OGs#t=76[/youtube]
base sa driver ng Taxi eto paliwanag nya
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I dunno, but people would always tend to "lean" towards the "poor" party. But if we analyze it further, like what was shown in these images, maybe the taxi driver was also at fault..if not the bigger of it.
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- and oh, this taxi driver even went to the T3/Tulfo show, tssssss. Now magsusumbong ka.
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Minsan kasi mga Taxi driver kung umasta parang mga hari din ng kalye eh. Pagka tapus sa Media mukha silang kawawa.
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pic number 1 taxi driver did not initiated first assault. yung benz guy ang nag initiate. why? binasag nya na salamin, he went out of vehicle to confront taxi carrying his man purse with gun inside.
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ano ng nangyari pagkatapos? sinong nanagot? walang pulis?
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I suppose the only thing to be thankful for is that nobody wound up in a coffin this time around.
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toy gun daw yung inilabas according sa abogado, maniniwala ba kayo?
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Paano na yan mali yun tinuro niya driver ng M class.
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lusot sa technicality. iba kinasuhan. hindi raw makakalimutan ni manong driver ang mukha smoking::
si manong driver:
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ang kinasuhan:
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ang tunay na nakaalitan according sa abogado:
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diba dapat alam din ng LTO kung kanino yung sasakyan?? ???
and kung toy gun yun? i dont think magkaka guts ka na maging ganun ka tapang laffman::
some of the gun owner mostly 90% ng nakikita ko , matapang pag may baril
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Dapat naka-engkwentro niya yung pulis na nakita ko dati somewhere in Manila area. Dalawa ang 45! Isa sa kanan on a holster. Isa sa likod niya, mexican style! Tapos mga 7 ang mags niya, all extended. Plus he has a pouch at his 7, containing a very long magazine, probably designed for those Tommy guns. And that is not on a mission loadout ha. Traffic duty si mamang pulis! Sila dapat ang nagkatapat, para magkaubusan ng tapang!
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Heard over the radio that Reuben Sindac is explaining that not because the suspect pointed the gun at a person, then there is automatically a violation. WHAT? Pakiulit! I understand the need to preserve and protect ones self, given that the taxi driver has a knife. But would actually pointing your gun at the person, excessive, provocative and way more dangerous? Excessive in the sense that it is a gun vs. a knife. Provocative in the sense that taxi driver might feel the need to lunge and go for a strike if he feels he might get shot. Given the situation, pointing the gun is way more dangerous.
Nandun na ako, you need to protect yourself. But would pointing your gun a few feet in front of the taxi driver's feet way more appropriate in this case? Ready condition ika nga. Taxi driver will get the message that you are armed and ready to defend yourself without actually unnecessarily and excessively provoking him. Just keep your eyes on him at all times. If he makes an aggressive move, raise your hand and shoot for the lower body parts, try the legs or thigh. If not, go a llttle bit higher. You have a gun vs. a knife and you have the upper hand. No need for such stupidities like directly pointing the gun at the taxi driver.
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well technically, the PNP spokesperson is right. just because you drew your gun, it doesnt mean na automatic violation ka na. it might be excessive but is that a violation? not necessarily. is it dangerous, yes, but again is being dangerous a violation? nope. depende to sa circumstances. but the act of drawing your gun does not constitute an automatic violation. some other factors must come into play
one possible violation is grave threats but is that simply because you drew your gun? not necessarily. there is a threat yes but is it grave? usually grave threats pag ang pag bunot ng baril is ikaw ang nag initiate. in this case, I think it was more defensive so depende na yun sa court kung it qualifies as grave threats but usually it should not qualify as one. but then again the other side will probably say the gun was used to intimidate so the threat was grave. then the gun owner side will then say it was a defensive action after the taxi driver drew a knife. and so on and so forth.
bottomline, both parties are at fault for the incident but as to what extent, thats up to the court
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mga Tol,
Tingnan nyo video.
Paglapit ni chedeng boy, sinaksak sya through the window. Tapus, nagpuilit pa na bumaba at wala na kong ibang maisip na intensyon nung taxi driver kundi para saksakin pa sya ulit. Kaya tinadyakan at pinigilan ni chedeng boy yung pinto. Nung makababa na si taxi driver, saka lang bumunot si chedeng boy. Tingnan nyos a video na tiningnan ni chedeng boy kung san sya tinamaan ng saksak.
Mayna gsulatd in sa FB na nakita nya buong pangyayari. Grabe raw mag cut paulit ulit si taxi dalawang beses tumigil sa gitna para mag pickup ngp asahero kahit hindi naman pinapara. Hindi anghel ang kalbong yun.
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whoah, wait, the guy in the 2nd pic, is that Bill Ang?
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whoah, wait, the guy in the 2nd pic, is that Bill Ang?
2nd guy is Karlvin Ang. sya yung kinasuhan. sya ang itinuro ng driver from set of pictures presented by the police.
3rd guy, according to the lawyer is Bill Emerson Tan-Ang
diba dapat alam din ng LTO kung kanino yung sasakyan?? ???
and kung toy gun yun? i dont think magkaka guts ka na maging ganun ka tapang laffman::
some of the gun owner mostly 90% ng nakikita ko , matapang pag may baril
alam ng LTO kaya nga natrace na company car. kaya nga pinakitang mga pictures kay manong driver ay yung mga may-ari at nagwowork sa company. kaya ang itinuro yung "Karlvin"
as for toy gun, guilty. ginawa ko na iyon dati na panakot, umubra naman. sindakan lang ang labanan. ::laffman
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Kung papakinggan niyo ulit yung audio, tingin ko sinapak nung driver yung window ng taxi kaya may nagsabi na bus passenger na "Eh gag# ka pala! sinuntok mo yung ano eh" twice. So malamang taxi driver ignored the dude's flaming rage kaya dun na nagsimula ang video.
anyway, di naman magkakaganun yun kung matino magmaneho yang mga taxi. Hindi ko nilalahat pero majority ganyan ang asta. Parang jeep lol
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Drawing your gun, per se is not a violation. Pointing it to someone already is, given the situation. Again, he controls the situation, he has his foot on the door, draw your gun to signify you are prepared. If taxi driver acts aggressively, then deal with the threat immediately.
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Drawing your gun, per se is not a violation. Pointing it to someone already is, given the situation. Again, he controls the situation, he has his foot on the door, draw your gun to signify you are prepared. If taxi driver acts aggressively, then deal with the threat immediately.
Benz Boy draw his gun after seeing the Taxi driver has a knife. Isn't that an aggressive act? why would he pull out a knife if he never intend to use it? Didn't Benz boy just dealt with the threat by pointing a gun at Mr. taxi driver? Neutralizing a threat by presenting a bigger threat?
Yes, its the golden rule of gun ownership to not point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. In that kind of situation do you think the benz driver really have ZERO intention of shooting Mr. Taxi driver? If so then why draw a gun to begin with? The moment you draw a gun means that you consider shooting it. Does it really matter where you point it? to his foot or to his head, you will still shoot in case the situation worsen right? And shooting the lower part of the body can still kill. Doesn't this make the argument of where Benz driver point the gun irrelevant ?
Also, does pulling a knife on someone not qualify as "grave threat"? What if Benz boy got stabbed?
Anyway, do you guys have any idea what exactly happened before the incident? Pano ba toh nagsimula? Bakit daw nagalit si Benz boy? Di ako updated sa balita.. Also bakit kaya hinabol pa ulit sya nung taxi driver?
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kung papakingggan yung video particularly sa dulo. maririnig nyong "gago yung taxi driver. cut ng cut, ang tapang masyado."
so mukhang yung pagmamaneho ng taxi driver ang naging ugat.
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kung papakingggan yung video particularly sa dulo. maririnig nyong "gago yung taxi driver. cut ng cut, ang tapang masyado."
so mukhang yung pagmamaneho ng taxi driver ang naging ugat.
Kung ganun pala eh pareho silang mali.. Dapat bigyan ng anger management seminar si benz boy at ibalik sa driving school si taxi driver.. Suspend muna yung drivers license nila pareho..
Sa mga mainstream balita kasi parang pinupukol lahat ng sisi kay benz boy.. I dont buy the "grave threat" complain ni taxi driver simply because he himself committed an act of "grave threat" FIRST. He has a knife that can kill someone as well. Ang issue nalang siguro para kay benz boy is kung legal ba yung baril nya..
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Irregardless of how one interprets the actions and intentions of the taxi driver, I still believe that pointing the gun at the taxi driver was excessive. Being a gun-owner, you must be responsible enough to assess the situation correctly. You have your foot on his car door, you draw your weapon to signify that you are ready to deal with any aggressive attack, PERIOD. You don't unnecessarily ask for an attack. The taxi driver can argue that because you pointed the gun at him, he has to attack and protect his life. Vicious cycle indeed. You draw your gun in self defense, you point your gun in self defense, he attacks you in self defense. Me saying that draw the gun and point it to the ground in front of him is actually signifying a stealmate, I've marked an imaginary line, which he should not cross. If he still does, I can justify self defense then. Slim chance of me being slapped by going overboard with my actions. I tried to neutralize the threat, by steps or levels if you may. My point is if one is privileged to own a gun, one should exercise maximum tolerance. The gun will always be the last resort.
No arguments here, to each his own really. I'm just imparting what I believe will always be the action when in comes to firearms. As to the fact that the guy was already initially injured using the knife of the taxi driver, then when he was already being attacked, he should have already drawn his gun in reaction to the threat. It probably started with a punch thrown by Benz driver, answered with a knife swing by taxi driver, followed by gun pulling by Benz driver. If taxi driver lunges for Benz driver after the gun was pointed at him, and both get to live and sue each other, the weight of the actions will fall down on Benz driver, most probably. Irregardless of who is a fault in the road incident, Benz guy probably started worsening the situation by alighting from his vehicle, approached taxi driver and probably pulled the first punch, hence taxi driver pulled out his knife.
It may not be how things happened, but definitely the path taxi driver's lawyer will take. And Benz driver's lawyers are already panicking by saying what was used was a toy gun. Airsoft? They'll be asking fir his permit for that, since you need one for it too. See, taxi driver's defense are already attacking and Benz driver's counsel are left to defend, hence you see whi is being showed now. Would have been different if he did not point his gun at the taxi driver and his gun, hopefully, is licensed with all the necessary papers. If that would have been the case, he can already charge the taxi driver for the injuries he supposedly sustained.
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id rather point my gun on someone than second guessing if i will get attacked by a knife... ill trust myself than the guy holding a knife against me... fuck the law when your life is on the line...
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Bros, if you would look at the body language of the Benz guy, it seems that he wasnt apprehensive or maybe he's skeptic on holding on to his gun. Parang sya yung type that you can dare na "sige iputok mo" but he wouldnt do it. That just signifies that the gun was just drawn "just in case". If youve been to a riot or a life threatening situation, that bladed weapon is more accurate than a gun. Yung proximity nilang dalawa is just arm's length. Ever heard of stories of cops or soldiers na hindi nila alam na nabaril na pala sila...they just realized it nung humupa na yung situation. If the authorities wouldnt apply yung "maawa sa mahirap" thing, they will figure out na hindi yung Benz driver ang at fault. Benz's guy's insurance can sue the taxi driver for a civil case, then bahala na silang dalawa to sue each other for criminal case.
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ok now it's more interesting. The guy is Bill Ang, he's a good friend of mine. That guy is very level headed, it turns out that he got bladed in the arm by the knife, not by the broken window glass, and through the ribs. Did anyone in here find out that he didn't even file a criminal case against "tanginang kalbong" taxi driver? Whereas etong bugok na taxi driver na to even admitted to channel 7 news that he actually drew out a knife to scare the guy, then sabay takbo pa sya kina Tulfo para magmukang kawawa. Tsss, walang pupuntahan yang kasong yan. Mag drive ka nalang ng pedicab...boy.
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Funny, si Shawn pa talaga nag-report, whereas we're all college buddies.
http://n5e.interaksyon.com/videos/572CEE7AAF2A4D2
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Hahaha kaya naman pala eh..
Anyway.. case closed! nagkaayos na yung dalawang parties.
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oo nabasa ko rin sa newspaper now na nagkaayos na yung mga involved. the taxi driver apologized to the other guy na pinagbintangan niya and the real one also apologized. nag shake hands na raw sila
this is what I said earlier, both parties are to blame for the incident kaya malamang para wala na managot sa kanila, nag settlement nalang sila with each other
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And lawyers will actually take note that as per PNP opinion, it is not a crime to draw your gun, more so point it at someone else. It is just a couple of years ago wherein merely drawing your gun out in public, regardless of the situation, is already a crime.
Good thing no bullet escaped the barrel, and everyone is ok now.
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nabayaran na yung taxi driver dyan syempre.
hindi ba talaga criminal act ang pagtutok ng baril sa isang tao? akala ko e assault na yun lalo na at baril pa ang tinutok.
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nabayaran na yung taxi driver dyan syempre.
hindi ba talaga criminal act ang pagtutok ng baril sa isang tao? akala ko e assault na yun lalo na at baril pa ang tinutok.
It seems it is not just you who is confused about such a matter. Even the PNP itself is clueless about what they have done wrong, with respect to saying there is really nothing wrong at pointing a gun at somebody.
Just like what I said, this is a very bad precedence. It has not been long since that time that even exposing your gun, unintentionally, will bring you trouble. Times has changed, it seems, and you can go around and point your gun, given the right situation (apparently) and you are not breaking any law.
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then every law should be change or revise most likely mandatory for every applicant who wants to own a License
it didn't matter if it's for Gun or driving Licenses
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tama talaga yung recommendation ni mayor duterte na magkaroon ng IQ test for drivers license.
lalo for utility vehicle drivers. marami daw kasing low IQ drivers ngayon.