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: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: MiKeDaCuTe August 22, 2013, 11:39:39 AM
Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?

It's just so hard to believe Sun Star Cebu's Erwin Lirazan's report about Manny Pacquiao allegedly going bankrupt? Seriously... how do you lose all that money? One of the top-paid athletes in the world (Forbes listed him the 14th highest paid athlete of 2013), Filipino celebrity with countless endorsements and doesn't he own businesses too? How can this even be a serious report? Since the original report is in Cebuano, we are basing this article on ABS-CBN's online report. I personally don't believe it could be true so I'm more on the "What if?" side here... Pacman fans, don't hate!
 
Aside from endorsements left and right, he has won millions of dollars in many fights (win or lose) with the world's top boxers. His long-time confidante, Rex "Wakee" Salud reveals to Sun Star Cebu that Pacman doesn't know how to manage his money and is known to be very generous especially to the poor. He has helped countless people and just didn't know how to say no. He is said to have lost all his money. ("Di lang kay nahurothurot, hurot gyud! (He did not just lose his money, he lost all of it)," said Salud, who has known Pacquiao since he started boxing in the mid-'90s.)
 
Filipinos are aware of Pacman's luxurious lifestyle, his casino trips, multiple houses and expensive cars. It was also reported that he spenta huge chunk of his money--hundreds of  millions on his campaign for the elections. This is really upsetting because why else would a politician spend so much money just to get in a position that isn't supposed to give them as much money as they spent? I don't want to jump into conclusions here, but really, why?
 
It was also said that Salud hinted that Pacman is now motivated to fight because of money... Knowing this, could we still say Filipino pride? I know that he may have wanted to fight in the past also because of money but money being the ONLY motivation is a different thing.
 
Though we don't want to play the blaming game here, I just want to get this out: I hate all them greedy people who convinced our Manny Pacquiao to get into politics. He probably didn't know! His experience is in the gym and the ring. So what if he was poor once and has become an inspiration to others? Does that make him an able leader? Not really.
 
I hope this news is not true. I hope he gets back on his feet, wins a fight, finishes a term in congress, retire and forget about politics. You can help your countrymen in so many more ways, Manny. We understand you want to help the poor, but you have kids and a family and probably hundreds of staff relying on you. Do not let them down. Take care of your money, you worked hard for that and you deserve to enjoy it too for as long as you live. There's nothing wrong with being prosperous. You shed your own blood and risked your own life with each fight for the Filipino pride. You were not required to do that but you did and we are thankful for that. Also please, next time, just listen to Mommy Dionisia. Mothers know best!


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http://www.urbanpinas.com/manny-pacquiao-rags-to-riches-to-rags/
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: Master Dave August 22, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
Could be true.. Napanood ko sa TV sometime this week na binebenta na nya yung mansion nya sa US..
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: ☺☻JDC™ August 22, 2013, 11:52:37 AM
Nabasa ko lang din bro sa ABS-CBN

MANILA, Philippines – Is Manny Pacquiao, whose rags-to-riches story has captured the imagination of fight fans around the globe, going bankrupt?

Rex “Wakee” Salud, a long-time confidante of the Filipino boxing superstar, revealed Pacquiao’s financial status in an interview with Sun Star Cebu’s Erwin Lirazan.

"Di lang kay nahurothurot, hurot gyud! (He did not just lose his money, he lost all of it)," said Salud, who has known Pacquiao since he started boxing in the mid-'90s.

Pacquiao rose to superstardom by beating some of the biggest names in boxing including Oscar de la Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales.

He earned millions of dollars through those victories and became one of the top paid boxers in the industry.

Forbes Magazine even listed Pacquiao as the 14th highest paid athlete this year with estimated earnings $34 million from boxing purses and endorsement deals.

However, the boxer doesn’t seem to know how to manage his riches, as he is known to be very generous especially to the poor, according to Salud.

“Daghan man sab gud na siyang gitaba­ngan, dili man na siya kahibalo mobalibad (He helped a lot of people, and he didn’t know how to refuse),” said Salud.

The Filipino boxer is also known for his flamboyant lifestyle as he reportedly owned several mansions in Laguna, General Santos City and Forbes Park, Makati City.

He also owns an extensive collection of expensive cars, including a Ferrari 458 Italia, which he reportedly bought for $309,000 (P13.367 million).

However, some of his biggest expense went to politics.

According to ESPN’s Nigel Collins, Pacquiao spent approximately $8.6 million (around P379 million) in campaign funds for the 2010 and the 2013 elections.

“He spent an estimated $6.6 million on his successful 2010 campaign to become the congressional representative of the district of Sarangani,” Collins said in his ESPN column.

“[His] wife Jinkee and brother Rogelio also ran for office [in 2013], and it cost Pacquiao approximately $2 million to finance the campaigns,” the analyst said.

Salud hinted that Pacquiao is now motivated to fight because of money.

“Unya dugay sab siyang wala makaaway. Hurot man gani ang iyang kuwarta katong sige siya’g away, karon pa kaha nga hapit usa ka tuig una siya moaway og balik (He always ran out of money when he was still actively fighting, even more so when he stopped fighting for almost a year now),” said Salud.

The last time Pacquiao fought was in December 2012 when he lost to Juan Manuel Marquez via a shocking sixth-round knockout.

He had to take a long furlough from boxing because of the way he got knocked out.

Just recently, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau’s Steve Angeles reported that Pacquiao is selling off his Los Angeles mansion for $2.7 million.

The boxer bought the five-bedroom Mediterranean style home for $2.17 million in 2009.

Salud said the Brandon Rios fight this November will be Pacquiao’s last chance. If he fails again, then it’s over for the Filipino boxer, said the veteran boxing promoter.

“Last card na kini ni Manny, kon mapilde siya angay na siyang mo-retire (This is Pacquiao’s last card. If he loses, then I think it’s time to retire),” he said.
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: gardov August 22, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
sino ba yung nagsabing genius si pacman?  ::lmao
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: budotukmol August 22, 2013, 12:14:08 PM
ang burak balutin man ng ginto burak pa rin.
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: nivek_nayr August 22, 2013, 05:35:35 PM
palagay ko sa mga taxes ng property nya?pag mahal ng properties pag taas din ng pag bayad sa mga taxes nito kaya sakit din ng ulo ang maraming properties
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: bodieph August 22, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
tama yung sabi na sa pamimigay yan, nasobrahan. eto example lang, sa banko ha, palabas si pacquiao ng banko, biniro ng mga guard ng banko na baka pwede ba raw makahingi ng balato. bumalik sa banko si pacquiao para magwithdraw at pinamigay sa mga guard. sinabihan na sya ng bank manager na pag lagi niya gawin yang ganyan mauubos pera niya. ang sagot ni pacquiao, ok lang daw, kasi galing naman siya sa mahirap so ok lang bumalik maging mahirap sanay na raw siya (loosely translated kasi bisaya yung pagkasabi)

and now, diba nag convert siya to born again christian, duda ko malaki rin ang naibigay niya sa bagong religion niya. kung ano yung mga bisyo at mga hobby ni pacquiao malaki talaga binubuhos niyang pera so it could be true na he's losing money. pero i think hindi naman bankrupt kundi nahihirapan na to keep up with his current lifestyle
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: gardov August 22, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
palagay ko sa mga taxes ng property nya?pag mahal ng properties pag taas din ng pag bayad sa mga taxes nito kaya sakit din ng ulo ang maraming properties

Totoo din to. Lalo na at yung source of income nya ay once a year lang. Kahit na milyon milyon kung yung expenses naman ay milyon din, zero balance o negative pa talaga kalalabasan.

May mga business ventures din sya na hindi pumapatok di ba?
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: Ilonggo-by-blood August 22, 2013, 08:01:16 PM
highly exaggerated si Salud...Pacquiao got number of Pacauiao stores which sells Nike products in LA and Manila and GenSan also he got several Gasoline stations  Number of Gyms he got investment on commercial real estate in front of SM Gen San and Davao, daming investment yun selling his house in LA i think because common sense No one is living there and he will be fight permanently in Asian region.

sino ba yung nagsabing genius si pacman?  ::lmao

so you are saying?

I hate to see people downing other people just because they can't have what they want! Eka nga eh they are not happy to see other Filipino make it well, Talangka ang isip for sure hindi aasenso ang tao kung mas iniisip na malaglag ang kapwa Pinoy
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: estavio August 22, 2013, 08:20:50 PM
sobrang pangarap dun din sya babagsak kung sana naging boxer lang ang profession nya at wala na kung anu anu pa malamang hanggang ngaun siya parin best pound for pound ngayon. anyway impossible maging bankrupt yan kasi nasa pulitika naman sila. :applause
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: gardov August 22, 2013, 08:47:08 PM


so you are saying?

I hate to see people downing other people just because they can't have what they want! Eka nga eh they are not happy to see other Filipino make it well, Talangka ang isip for sure hindi aasenso ang tao kung mas iniisip na malaglag ang kapwa Pinoy

no actually tinatanong ko talaga kung sino yung nagsabing genius sya  laffman::. yung politikong sobrang sipsip sa kanya kulang na lang ay sipsipin pati hotdog ni pacquiao. 

no crab mentality here. sensya na kung iba ang iyong pagkakaanalisa sa aking sinabi. mahirap kasi makuha ang tono ng mga salita sa internet.

ang ayaw ko lang na mentality ni pacquiao, ay yung pagiisip nyang galing sya sa hirap kaya oks lang na bumalik sa hirap. pinaghirapan nya yung pera sa pakikipagsuntukan tapos sasayangin lang sa mga sipsip sa paligid nya.

oks lang maging mabait, wag lang maging uto uto.
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: beaverjohn2006 August 22, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
Drama ni manny lang iyan, punta kayo bahay niya gensan, minsan andun siya sa wildcard gym niya gensan beside SM gensan, sa tabi ng wildcard gym is new investment, hotel, patapos na,  dalawa hotel niya sa gensan,  tatlo ang bldg puno palagi, dami nagrerent.

mga botique ng misis niya sa kcc, at veranza gensan, andun, dami bumubili, investment niya sa real estate. income niya sa gasoline station.

sinabi lang ni manny yan para wala nang humihngi pa ng tulong sa kaniya, dahil andaming tinulungan niyan.
lalo na yung pasaway na kaptid na babae niya.

may mga ALAS pa iyan sa mga lupa, sa lakesebu may resort yan siya tilapia ponds. andami.

ibang business niya di nakapangalan sa kaniya, may dummy yan. 
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: Ilonggo-by-blood August 22, 2013, 10:56:47 PM
Drama ni manny lang iyan, punta kayo bahay niya gensan, minsan andun siya sa wildcard gym niya gensan beside SM gensan, sa tabi ng wildcard gym is new investment, hotel, patapos na,  dalawa hotel niya sa gensan,  tatlo ang bldg puno palagi, dami nagrerent.

mga botique ng misis niya sa kcc, at veranza gensan, andun, dami bumubili, investment niya sa real estate. income niya sa gasoline station.

sinabi lang ni manny yan para wala nang humihngi pa ng tulong sa kaniya, dahil andaming tinulungan niyan.
lalo na yung pasaway na kaptid na babae niya.

may mga ALAS pa iyan sa mga lupa, sa lakesebu may resort yan siya tilapia ponds. andami.

ibang business niya di nakapangalan sa kaniya, may dummy yan.

Parekoy paano na naging drama niya eh that info did come from him fron Rene Salud... Feeling ko lang mga story na hindi validated gone wrong gaya ng story ni Alex Santos ng ABS CBN, Pinush thru yung storya niya kahit hindi or walang final validation so ayun sibak!!

wala siyang gain sa storya na yan ang may mataas na interest yung nagpalabas ng story which is a good revenue for them. hay naks bahala sila sa buhay nila si Pacquiao matatawa na lang diyan.
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: schwack August 22, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
Wala lang siguro tumitira masyado sa bahay niya tapos gumagastos siya dun sa bahay. Madami padin yan pera ang daming lupain ni Manny sa bandang North kasosyo si Chavit. We really don't know guys the reason chillax lang wag na mag away. Ika nga ni Manny "You Know"
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: beaverjohn2006 August 23, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
walang paki si manny sa pinagsasabi niya, umiiwas na iyan dahil andaming lumalapit sa kaniya. if you want to see his new investment in gensan, punta ka dun, wildcard gym, and yung hotel niya na bago beside wildcard gym. another investment resort. andami. papaanggap na wala nang pera para di na mautangan o mahingian. gets?  magbebenta pa iyan ng property para mabawasan gastusin niya sa maintenance. dahil magfofocus siya sa business niya. paano ko nalaman? sinabi ng kakilala ko na taga lto gensan na laging kasama ni manny.
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: budotukmol August 23, 2013, 01:12:45 AM
Parekoy paano na naging drama niya eh that info did come from him fron Rene Salud... Feeling ko lang mga story na hindi validated gone wrong gaya ng story ni Alex Santos ng ABS CBN, Pinush thru yung storya niya kahit hindi or walang final validation so ayun sibak!!

wala siyang gain sa storya na yan ang may mataas na interest yung nagpalabas ng story which is a good revenue for them. hay naks bahala sila sa buhay nila si Pacquiao matatawa na lang diyan.
paano nasali si rene salud? si mama rene ba yan? si pacman talaga hindi maubusan ng talent. pati mundo ng mga beki pinasok na.
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: raberdaki August 23, 2013, 01:17:27 AM
maniwala kayu dyan kay wakee salud yan ang nagpapatakbo ng illegal na masioa at jai-alai dito sa cebu yung mga manok panabong ni manny sa kanya lahat napunta
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: Ilonggo-by-blood August 23, 2013, 01:19:32 AM
paano nasali si rene salud? si mama rene ba yan? si pacman talaga hindi maubusan ng talent. pati mundo ng mga beki pinasok na.
LOL si Rex "wakee" Salud pala sorry!! 
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: xeoxander01 August 23, 2013, 03:48:36 AM
Di dapat ma bahala ang mga supporters ni Congressman Manny...

Nakipag meeting na siya kay Janet Napoles...

 ::laffman
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: meteor freak August 23, 2013, 03:55:32 AM
Parekoy paano na naging drama niya eh that info did come from him fron Rene Salud... Feeling ko lang mga story na hindi validated gone wrong gaya ng story ni Alex Santos ng ABS CBN, Pinush thru yung storya niya kahit hindi or walang final validation so ayun sibak!!

wala siyang gain sa storya na yan ang may mataas na interest yung nagpalabas ng story which is a good revenue for them. hay naks bahala sila sa buhay nila si Pacquiao matatawa na lang diyan.

paano nasali si rene salud? si mama rene ba yan? si pacman talaga hindi maubusan ng talent. pati mundo ng mga beki pinasok na.



Lol.... makikisali sana ako sa palitan ng kuru-kuro pero wag nalang nabago ang mood ko kase dami kong tawa dito...  ::lmao
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: kenji_kulet August 23, 2013, 04:04:20 AM
para sa akin , he needs to kasi [1] tumaas ang economy dito sa US so tumataas din ang presyo ng bahay and  [2] he didn't earn any money this year kung may bahay sya dito sa US kelangan nya mag bayad ng income tax

or matutulad sya kay Money Mayweather

diba most rich people who didn't earn any money file for bankruptcy? just to keep there income tax low i think?

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: Idiot August 23, 2013, 04:07:52 AM
hahahahhaha

natural na ibenta yung sa states recession ngayon dun at malaki mortgages  kung loans yun or terms or kung full payment malaki taxes sa real state sa US  kase you are paying in dollars not in peso

maraming terms sa bankrupt

1. layman na bankrupt as in bankrupt walang asset or whatever
2. technical bankrupt maraming asset at investment kaso lang konti ang reserves or pera para sustain kung ano man ang ginagawa nya

manny is experiencing technical bankrupt dahil sa mga taxes at spending but it doesn't mean he is bankrupt na walang pera

and for business filing bankruptcy is one thing to escape taxes kung tama ako (paging accountant)

and losing money normal lang yan sa tao

even sa mga highly skilled battle hardened 20-30 years CEO e nababankrupt nila company nila si manny pa kaya




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: xeoxander01 August 23, 2013, 04:11:56 AM
wakee: misquoted.

Sa mga bisaya. here is the link.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/superbalita-cebu/isports/2013/08/22/wakee-misquoted-299245
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: beaverjohn2006 August 23, 2013, 04:27:18 AM
actually di pa nainterview si manny alam ko na ang balita, dahil sa post ko kanina na ibebenta niya ibang bahay nya dahil mahal sa maintenance walang tao. daming bahay eh.  at magfofocus yan sa negosyo. yan sinabi sa akin ng kakilala ko na taga Lto na close friend ni manny sa gensan. tingnan nyo repost sa abs cbn, manny deny bankruptcy.  di yan haka haka sa bunganga mismo ni manny galing yan kahapon.
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: Idiot August 23, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
actually di pa nainterview si manny alam ko na ang balita, dahil sa post ko kanina na ibebenta niya ibang bahay nya dahil mahal sa maintenance walang tao. daming bahay eh.  at magfofocus yan sa negosyo. yan sinabi sa akin ng kakilala ko na taga Lto na close friend ni manny sa gensan. tingnan nyo repost sa abs cbn, manny deny bankruptcy.  di yan haka haka sa bunganga mismo ni manny galing yan kahapon.

yup yup kaya namili sya ng bahay dahil booming ang real state hindi dahil mayabang or tanga na kala ng iba

utak negosyante lang

kaso hindi na predict ang bust sa real state kaya imbes na dumoble value bumagsak price ngayon may slight boom sa US kaya parang stock exchange sell sell sell ka bago mag bust mode ulit kase temporary lang ang boom dyan dahil mababa ang savings rate sa states


 
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: pspyrock August 23, 2013, 06:51:30 AM
May positive side kapag naubos ang yaman ni Pacman, mauubos din yung sunod ng sunod sa kanya na puro pa-bili at pa-libre.





THE camp of Manny Pacquiao was quick to deny reports claiming he has gone bankrupt, insisting the boxing hero remains in control of billions worth of assets amassed from years as one of the world's highest-earning athletes.

Pacquiao’s chief of staff, Haplas Fernandez, slammed the story as "preposterous" while his mother, Mommy Dionesia, pointed to the former pound-for-pound king's numerous assets and businesses to disprove the claim made by a Cebu daily on Thursday.

Even the supposed source of the story, longtime Pacquiao confidante Rex 'Wakee' Salud, denied he ever said the Filipino hero has gone bankrupt as he hinted at a libel case against the daily.

“Wala akong sinabi na ganun. Pinalaki lang nung writer,” an irked Salud said when reached by Spin.ph. “Ang sabi ko lang … baka medyo gipit. Kasi isang taon nang walang laban, nanibago yung lifestyle. Pero hindi ko sinabi na bangkarote na.”

Salud denied telling the daily that Pacquiao has totally lost all of his money due to his well-known generosity, lavish lifestyle, and campaign expenses in polls involving not only him but wife Jinkee and a brother.

Fernandez said the bankruptcy rumors were most likely fanned by news that the Pacquiaos have put their Los Angeles house for sale for US$2.7 million.

But he insisted: “Siguro ibinase nila yun sa ibinebentang bahay ni Boss sa LA. Kalokohan yan. Walang basehan yan. Ibinebenta yun kasi wala namang nakatira. Sayang lang. Ang mahal-mahal pa ng tax.

“Nagbenta lang ng property bankrupt na?”


Fernandez bared that Pacquiao is very much in control of his prime estates in Manila including a mansion in the posh village of Forbes Park.

The Pacman also owns two more mansions in Paranaque, which according to Fernandez are also rarely used, and another in Binan, Laguna near Brent International School which his kids attend.

“Si Boss Manny talagang tulong lang ang nasa isip niya. Ang problema sa ibang tao, tumutulong na nga minamasama pa. Bahala na sila,” added the younger brother of Pacquiao assistant trainer Buboy Fernandez.

His mother, Dionisia, claimed the two-term congressman recently transformed a two-hectare property in Sarangani into a low cost housing project which he gave away to poor families there.

“Ganun kabait sa kapwa ang anak ko. Kaya kung naubos man yung pera niya, talagang itinutulong niya. Hindi naman niya sinusugal. Mapagbigay siya talaga,” she said.

“Pero hindi ko naman nakikita na bankrupt siya. Kasi andami pa niyang tauhan na pinapa-sweldo. Kung wala na siyang pera, wala na yung mga yun,” she added.

Mommy Dionisia even bared that his son maintains numerous businesses in Mindanao, Manila and even in the US.

“Merun siyang hotel dito sa Gensan, may maliit na mall, may beach resort siya sa Sarangani. Hindi man siya bangkarote,” stressed the popular mom.
http://www.spin.ph/sports/boxing/news/pacquiao-camp-denies-bankruptcy-claim-as-confidante-salud-hints-at-libel-case
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: IORIâ„¢ September 07, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
riches to rags?? mahirap mangyari yan .. dumating man ang panahon at laos na yan kumandidato lang yan ng barangay capt panalo na yan e  laffman::
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: SpyHandler October 22, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
Maski pa ilang bilyon ang pera, madali lang yan maubos. May mga tao na 50 million kada araw ipinapatalo sa sugal. Pweden rinmag invest ng malaki sa negosyo pero lugi.

I once read that Manny is building a golf course in the province.Ifnot marketed and packaged well, he can lose billions in that business.

He needs a team of investment advisers. It is a dream job for me to serve as his chief financial adviser. I think I can make him richer over time. But then, that is just me, a dreamer, a confident one at that.
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: -=Kurabo=- October 22, 2014, 11:42:02 PM
may kilala ako na nagtratrabaho sa isang kilalang hotel casino, hanggang ngayon ata nakikita naglalaro pa rin si Pacquiao.. buti na lang andiyan si Jinkee ::laffman
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: VeilSpy October 23, 2014, 01:03:22 AM
style yan para hindi na habulin ni Kim Henares.

Isa lang ang totoo dito. mabait, matulungin si Pacman. I think his heart is pure as well.

Nung pumasok nalang si Chavit at iba pang gusto gamitin si Pacman para sa kanilang agenda dun nalang talaga nakakahinayang.



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: BoyJakol October 23, 2014, 01:11:32 AM
Hindi ko maintindihan dito sa karamihan, kung bakit ang daming gustong makarinig na humirap ulit si manny etc etc, i mean ang daming conclusions wla namang evidence. kung ako sa inyo kumayod kayo ng mabuti ng makamit niyo yung mga pangarap niyo.

Okay, Let's say si Pacman humirap nga talaga. pero is it not enough na naparanas nya sa pamilya nya ang kaginhawaan ng buhay?  naabot niya ang pangarap niya bago siya mamatay.

Eh kayo ba mga sir? naabot niyo na ba mga pangarap niyo sa buhay? o maabot niyo pa kaya bago kayo mamatay? diba? kaya karaniwan ng pilipino nasa mababang kalagayaan pa din hnggang ngayon. kasi walang ginawa kundi sumita,pumuna ng mga kamalian ng iba without knowing the facts.

Chaka yung mga tax na sinasabi niyo, Oo malaki babayaran ni manny, KUNG kumikita yung negosyo tama ba? kung ikaw ba mag babayad ka ba ng mataas na tax kung mababa kinikita ng negosyo mo? di ba hindi?

Yung properties, tuwing kelan lang ba yan bnbayaran? i think once a year lang not sure. bakit? yung value ba ng property na binili mo hindi na tmtaas? tandaan na ang property every year yan tmtaas ang value. so kung mag bayad ka man ng tax, once na naibenta mo na yan its a win-win situation pa din for manny. kikita at kikita siya.

 ::dontflame ::dontflame ::dontflame
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BlueAlphaZero October 23, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
Hindi ko maintindihan dito sa karamihan, kung bakit ang daming gustong makarinig na humirap ulit si manny etc etc, i mean ang daming conclusions wla namang evidence. kung ako sa inyo kumayod kayo ng mabuti ng makamit niyo yung mga pangarap niyo.

Okay, Let's say si Pacman humirap nga talaga. pero is it not enough na naparanas nya sa pamilya nya ang kaginhawaan ng buhay?  naabot niya ang pangarap niya bago siya mamatay.

Eh kayo ba mga sir? naabot niyo na ba mga pangarap niyo sa buhay? o maabot niyo pa kaya bago kayo mamatay? diba? kaya karaniwan ng pilipino nasa mababang kalagayaan pa din hnggang ngayon. kasi walang ginawa kundi sumita,pumuna ng mga kamalian ng iba without knowing the facts.

Chaka yung mga tax na sinasabi niyo, Oo malaki babayaran ni manny, KUNG kumikita yung negosyo tama ba? kung ikaw ba mag babayad ka ba ng mataas na tax kung mababa kinikita ng negosyo mo? di ba hindi?

Yung properties, tuwing kelan lang ba yan bnbayaran? i think once a year lang not sure. bakit? yung value ba ng property na binili mo hindi na tmtaas? tandaan na ang property every year yan tmtaas ang value. so kung mag bayad ka man ng tax, once na naibenta mo na yan its a win-win situation pa din for manny. kikita at kikita siya.

 ::dontflame ::dontflame ::dontflame

It's not that people want Manny Pacquiao to plummet back to poverty; it's that they wish he would be more prudent with his money. It's all well and good that he and his family are enjoying a much higher standard of living now but what about the future? Wouldn't it be more comforting for him to know that they'll still be enjoying that same standard of living after God calls him up to the great boxing arena in the sky because he didn't squander his fortune on useless or unnecessary expenses?

: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 23, 2014, 02:28:55 PM
It's not that people want Manny Pacquiao to plummet back to poverty; it's that they wish he would be more prudent with his money. It's all well and good that he and his family are enjoying a much higher standard of living now but what about the future? Wouldn't it be more comforting for him to know that they'll still be enjoying that same standard of living after God calls him up to the great boxing arena in the sky because he didn't squander his fortune on useless or unnecessary expenses?

Aah ganun ba, edi accountant ka pala ni manny? kasi alam mo na hindi na sufficient ang pera niya for the future? ang galing mo pala eh noh. thru news,gossips bsta bsta nalang maniniwala? BE MATURE ENOUGH at wag maniwala basta basta w/o facts.
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: kenji_kulet October 23, 2014, 05:14:35 PM

Yung properties, tuwing kelan lang ba yan bnbayaran? i think once a year lang not sure. bakit? yung value ba ng property na binili mo hindi na tmtaas? tandaan na ang property every year yan tmtaas ang value. so kung mag bayad ka man ng tax, once na naibenta mo na yan its a win-win situation pa din for manny. kikita at kikita siya.


in the US? answer will be NO

why?

we have to pay property tax , like i said if you own a house here in the US you also need to pay the taxes even tho your not living here , so if you don't earn this year and you own a property then your screwed and will be force to be evicted and some of your things will be seized as payment

so if you own a house you have to pay for the following even tho your not there living

Energy , Mortgage , Water , Gas that's a monthly bill you have to pay even though your not using it but every home in the US has its own Gas , Water and electric lines installed once you bought the property , the Optional are Cable ( that includes Telephone , Internet and TV which cost $200 a month for some and some company like Comcast offers security for your home which is another monthly payment ) and if you own a Car yes you also have to pay it monthly

and you have to declare those to your tax even if you sell your house you still have to declare it because it was part of your earning for the current year you sell your house
 
property values in the US depends on the City or Place you live , for example in Santa Clara the new Levi Stadium was built there for the San Francisco 49ers

but before that Tech Giants like Facebook and Google and Silicon Valley were Base in Santa Clara County so its not just yearly it also depends on the current business or company thats being structured at your place

so it really depends on where your house were build , and it also effect the property condition if your place is like City of Oakland even tho your famous but your place is not that good

your property value will fall big

Rich and Famous people like to live in quite places , they didn't like the noise even a girl scout selling a cookies on their door
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 24, 2014, 02:14:14 AM
in the US? answer will be NO

why?

we have to pay property tax , like i said if you own a house here in the US you also need to pay the taxes even tho your not living here , so if you don't earn this year and you own a property then your screwed and will be force to be evicted and some of your things will be seized as payment

so if you own a house you have to pay for the following even tho your not there living

Energy , Mortgage , Water , Gas that's a monthly bill you have to pay even though your not using it but every home in the US has its own Gas , Water and electric lines installed once you bought the property , the Optional are Cable ( that includes Telephone , Internet and TV which cost $200 a month for some and some company like Comcast offers security for your home which is another monthly payment ) and if you own a Car yes you also have to pay it monthly

and you have to declare those to your tax even if you sell your house you still have to declare it because it was part of your earning for the current year you sell your house
 
property values in the US depends on the City or Place you live , for example in Santa Clara the new Levi Stadium was built there for the San Francisco 49ers

but before that Tech Giants like Facebook and Google and Silicon Valley were Base in Santa Clara County so its not just yearly it also depends on the current business or company thats being structured at your place

so it really depends on where your house were build , and it also effect the property condition if your place is like City of Oakland even tho your famous but your place is not that good

your property value will fall big

Rich and Famous people like to live in quite places , they didn't like the noise even a girl scout selling a cookies on their door



Ahhh, so sinasabi mo na maraming property si pacquaio sa US, na hindi niya kayang bayaran ang tax and expenses? Don't tell me na kung $15m worth ang value ng property ni pacman every year $1m tax? kung tax lang din yang snasabi mo iho. kayang kaya nila yan. at as far as i know isa lang ang bahay niya sa us which is ung nsa L.A na so hihirap pala si pacman dahil dun sa pag bayad ng tax and expenses na snsabi mo?  ::laffman

Hihirap si pacquiao kung ung lifestyle niya ay sobrang taas pa din and YET hindi na siya lumalaban sa boxing,hindi na siya nag aappear sa commercials,tv shows. And then WHAT? until now nasakanya pa din yan lahat. Kamusta ang FLOW of income niya? Edi lahat papasok TAMA BA MGA SIR?

Lets say after 2-3years. hindi na siya mag boboxing, and worst case wla na siyang shows and commercial. BTW, according to forbes 2014 his net worth is $100m+ hihirap pa kaya siya sa dami ng negosyo niya? I DONT THINK SO MGA KA ESPIYA.

 ::dontflame ::dontflame ::dontflame
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: kenji_kulet October 24, 2014, 03:10:51 AM


Ahhh, so sinasabi mo na maraming property si pacquaio sa US, na hindi niya kayang bayaran ang tax and expenses? Don't tell me na kung $15m worth ang value ng property ni pacman every year $1m tax? kung tax lang din yang snasabi mo iho. kayang kaya nila yan. at as far as i know isa lang ang bahay niya sa us which is ung nsa L.A na so hihirap pala si pacman dahil dun sa pag bayad ng tax and expenses na snsabi mo?  ::laffman

Hihirap si pacquiao kung ung lifestyle niya ay sobrang taas pa din and YET hindi na siya lumalaban sa boxing,hindi na siya nag aappear sa commercials,tv shows. And then WHAT? until now nasakanya pa din yan lahat. Kamusta ang FLOW of income niya? Edi lahat papasok TAMA BA MGA SIR?

Lets say after 2-3years. hindi na siya mag boboxing, and worst case wla na siyang shows and commercial. BTW, according to forbes 2014 his net worth is $100m+ hihirap pa kaya siya sa dami ng negosyo niya? I DONT THINK SO MGA KA ESPIYA.

 ::dontflame ::dontflame ::dontflame


una wala akong sinabi na maraming bahay si Manny at wala rin akong sinabi na di nya kaya mag bayad pinaliwanag ko lang yung tanong mo na

"Yung properties, tuwing kelan lang ba yan bnbayaran? i think once a year lang not sure. bakit? yung value ba ng property na binili mo hindi na tmtaas? tandaan na ang property every year yan tmtaas ang value. so kung mag bayad ka man ng tax, once na naibenta mo na yan its a win-win situation pa din for manny. kikita at kikita siya."
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BlueAlphaZero October 24, 2014, 03:22:41 AM
Aah ganun ba, edi accountant ka pala ni manny? kasi alam mo na hindi na sufficient ang pera niya for the future? ang galing mo pala eh noh. thru news,gossips bsta bsta nalang maniniwala? BE MATURE ENOUGH at wag maniwala basta basta w/o facts.

A question, if I may, M'sieur BoyJakol: when did altruism become the sole province of accountants?



: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 24, 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Teka nga muna, Matanong ko nga kayo. Sobrang yaman niyo ba? Dami niyong advise kay manny eh. Parang ang wise wise niyo na gumamit ng pera, prang been there done that ang dating eh. Based on exp ba yang mga kumento niyo? oh baka naman puro barya lang yan tas kung mka advise kung pano gamitin ang pera kala mo ke gagaling eh. =)) Puro ganito,ganyan ganito dapat.

 ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: kenji_kulet October 24, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
Teka nga muna, Matanong ko nga kayo. Sobrang yaman niyo ba? Dami niyong advise kay manny eh. Parang ang wise wise niyo na gumamit ng pera, prang been there done that ang dating eh. Based on exp ba yang mga kumento niyo? oh baka naman puro barya lang yan tas kung mka advise kung pano gamitin ang pera kala mo ke gagaling eh. =)) Puro ganito,ganyan ganito dapat.

 ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman

sa totoo lang off topic yung sagot mo sa comment ko , kung babasahin mo mabuti yung sinabi ko hindi ako nag advice na dapat ganito ganyan gawin ni Pacquiao

taga California kasi ako , and business ng family ko bumili ng property tapos aayusin then flip agad to make good money

eto yung pinaka unang comment ko sa issue na ito

para sa akin , he needs to kasi [1] tumaas ang economy dito sa US so tumataas din ang presyo ng bahay and  [2] he didn't earn any money this year kung may bahay sya dito sa US kelangan nya mag bayad ng income tax

or matutulad sya kay Money Mayweather

diba most rich people who didn't earn any money file for bankruptcy? just to keep there income tax low i think?

most rich people file bankruptcy to just keep their tax low , yung iba nag dodonate sa mga charity sa Pinas lalo ka pa sisingilin

di ko naman gusto maging mahirap si Manny , malabo lang talaga pag kakaintindi mo sa mga paliwanag namin
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: Idiot October 24, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
Teka nga muna, Matanong ko nga kayo. Sobrang yaman niyo ba? Dami niyong advise kay manny eh. Parang ang wise wise niyo na gumamit ng pera, prang been there done that ang dating eh. Based on exp ba yang mga kumento niyo? oh baka naman puro barya lang yan tas kung mka advise kung pano gamitin ang pera kala mo ke gagaling eh. =)) Puro ganito,ganyan ganito dapat.

there is a posibility pacman will have a some difficulty paying his taxes abroad because he is not a dollar earner and why we are concern for him because he was the pride of the Philippines so if he fail the filipino people fails and we don't care if he his a billionaire or the richest man in the world

: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: gardov October 24, 2014, 09:07:22 PM
LOL. daming nasaktan ang damdamin...

 ::lmao

: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 25, 2014, 02:27:30 AM
sa totoo lang off topic yung sagot mo sa comment ko , kung babasahin mo mabuti yung sinabi ko hindi ako nag advice na dapat ganito ganyan gawin ni Pacquiao

taga California kasi ako , and business ng family ko bumili ng property tapos aayusin then flip agad to make good money

eto yung pinaka unang comment ko sa issue na ito

most rich people file bankruptcy to just keep their tax low , yung iba nag dodonate sa mga charity sa Pinas lalo ka pa sisingilin

di ko naman gusto maging mahirap si Manny , malabo lang talaga pag kakaintindi mo sa mga paliwanag namin


Hindi ko nabasa yung comment mo sa file bankruptcy etc.

Kaya off topic ang comment ko, thats not pertaining to your comment. para yan sa mga comment ng lahat ng tao dito na nag mamagaling mag advise kung pano TAMANG gamitin ang pera. kagaya nga ng sinabi ko, kung hindi nyo naranasan edi wag mag advise db? narating niyo na ba yung success na sobrang daming pera? hindi pa din ata i guess? so bakit comment ng comment ang iba dito na kala mo ke gagaling humawak ng pera. yun lang ang snsabi ko dto sir kenjie.
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BlueAlphaZero October 25, 2014, 02:57:35 AM

Hindi ko nabasa yung comment mo sa file bankruptcy etc.

Kaya off topic ang comment ko, thats not pertaining to your comment. para yan sa mga comment ng lahat ng tao dito na nag mamagaling mag advise kung pano TAMANG gamitin ang pera. kagaya nga ng sinabi ko, kung hindi nyo naranasan edi wag mag advise db? narating niyo na ba yung success na sobrang daming pera? hindi pa din ata i guess? so bakit comment ng comment ang iba dito na kala mo ke gagaling humawak ng pera. yun lang ang snsabi ko dto sir kenjie.

Permit me to rephrase my previous question, M'sieur: when did altruism become the sole province of the excessively wealthy?

: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: UnGraTefuL SchoLaR October 25, 2014, 03:49:46 AM
sa internet... marami ang instant EXPERTS...  Hahahah! 
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: kenji_kulet October 25, 2014, 05:07:35 AM

Hindi ko nabasa yung comment mo sa file bankruptcy etc.

Kaya off topic ang comment ko, thats not pertaining to your comment. para yan sa mga comment ng lahat ng tao dito na nag mamagaling mag advise kung pano TAMANG gamitin ang pera. kagaya nga ng sinabi ko, kung hindi nyo naranasan edi wag mag advise db? narating niyo na ba yung success na sobrang daming pera? hindi pa din ata i guess? so bakit comment ng comment ang iba dito na kala mo ke gagaling humawak ng pera. yun lang ang snsabi ko dto sir kenjie.

its a forum , anyone is open to share ideas parang facebook anyone is permited to post anything

don't take it too seriously  ;D saka wag ka po mag sir sa akin I'm only 26 and Housing is our family business if you really wanted to know the laws and how property business goes my dad know way better than me , every year they are having this meeting , every year the law changes when it comes to property and tax thing

I'm only beginning to learn how things work , and believe me i really don't like this business I am better off building the houses He buys rather than understanding the law
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 25, 2014, 02:43:01 PM
Permit me to rephrase my previous question, M'sieur: when did altruism become the sole province of the excessively wealthy?

Sagutin mo sarili mong tanong.  bnana bnana bnana
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 25, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
its a forum , anyone is open to share ideas parang facebook anyone is permited to post anything

don't take it too seriously  ;D saka wag ka po mag sir sa akin I'm only 26 and Housing is our family business if you really wanted to know the laws and how property business goes my dad know way better than me , every year they are having this meeting , every year the law changes when it comes to property and tax thing

I'm only beginning to learn how things work , and believe me i really don't like this business I am better off building the houses He buys rather than understanding the law

Aah, ayos pala business ng parents mo sir. =) buti ka pa ganyan business basta nag inflate ang property kikita agad kayo ng magulang mo. ako sir 22 palang at ofw lang ksi mahirap ang buhay namin sa pinas, rm ako ng isang fastfood dito sa sg, God bless sa business niyo toast::

 psrulez:: psrulez:: psrulez::
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BlueAlphaZero October 26, 2014, 03:25:12 PM
Sagutin mo sarili mong tanong.  bnana bnana bnana

That would defeat the purpose of directing the question towards you. M'sieur. I shall courteously await your answer instead.
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BoyJakol October 26, 2014, 04:32:33 PM
That would defeat the purpose of directing the question towards you. M'sieur. I shall courteously await your answer instead.

Aah, talagang gusto mo yan?

Osige ganito, ang galing galing mo eh. wala akong masagot sa previous question mo sir eh, ang lalim. hindi ko maintindihan. hindi kaya ng utak. mababa IQ eh pag pasensyahan mo na.

Matalino ka, magaling ka mag english, pati grammar perfect walang corrections.

Okay na ba sir? makakatulog ka na?

God bless sayo sir at sana masaya ka sa buhay mo.
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: lawrencium October 27, 2014, 12:58:38 AM
sinagot na ni pacman yang mga alegasyong yan at falsified na yung issue na bankrupt na siya given the fact na kakapanalo niya lang kay bradley
: Re: Manny Pacquiao: Rags-to-Riches-to-Rags?
: BlueAlphaZero October 27, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Aah, talagang gusto mo yan?

Osige ganito, ang galing galing mo eh. wala akong masagot sa previous question mo sir eh, ang lalim. hindi ko maintindihan. hindi kaya ng utak. mababa IQ eh pag pasensyahan mo na.

Matalino ka, magaling ka mag english, pati grammar perfect walang corrections.

Okay na ba sir? makakatulog ka na?

God bless sayo sir at sana masaya ka sa buhay mo.

Thank you, M'sieur. God bless you as well and may your life be filled with the happiness you deserve.

Now that we're done with our courtesies, I await your answer in the hope that you might lift the fog from the collective mind of those who hold opinions contrary to yours and doctor our intellect so that we might be as erudite as you.