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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2013, 09:29:38 am »
Shout out sa lahat nga mga taong nag share ng kanilang nalalaman regarding this topic and made it clear between facts about science and bible. Knowing na meron ditong tatawagin ko lang mataas ang standard ng kanilang level of understanding but you did your part naman na maka share ng own ideas, saludo ako sa inyo!!!  ;D

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2013, 12:29:15 pm »
There is no "god". All phenomena is science. Both known and unknown.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2013, 04:09:52 pm »
before god.

ancient aliens exist.

he went to the heavens. fly.

he went to cubao    "via car,mrt?" history is hiddin alot form us..

thats why biblical science is not allowed to be learn. its put bible and science in one line..

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2013, 04:46:46 pm »
There is no "god". All phenomena is science. Both known and unknown.


"If there is no god" then what is your basis for morality?

paano mo malalaman ang mabuti o masama?

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2013, 07:05:54 pm »

"If there is no god" then what is your basis for morality?

paano mo malalaman ang mabuti o masama?

in my case, being an agnostic that i am, there might be a god lang ako. it's not the christian god though. it could be the pagan god, hindu gods, etc., it can't be proven yet.

basis for morality? for me, it's not god.

it's experience. the golden rule "do not do unto others what you don't want them to do unto you" or its counterpart can be learned without god. you simply have to experience it, or learn it from someone else.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2013, 07:26:50 pm »

"If there is no god" then what is your basis for morality?

paano mo malalaman ang mabuti o masama?

so pag hindi pa na-eexplain ng science (or simply hindi maexplain period) e god agad?  ???
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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2013, 08:57:39 pm »

"If there is no god" then what is your basis for morality?

paano mo malalaman ang mabuti o masama?

opinyon ko lang to ha, society dictates morality.

Basahin na lang ang mga holy books ng bawat religion at makikita mo ang evolution ng morality. For example, Abraham married his sister and had kids with her. Mohammed married a 9 year old. Parehas mali sa panahon ngayon.

Also, an individual does not need to believe in a god to be a good person.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2013, 09:06:47 pm »
opinyon ko lang to ha, society dictates morality.

Basahin na lang ang mga holy books ng bawat religion at makikita mo ang evolution ng morality. For example, Abraham married his sister and had kids with her. Mohammed married a 9 year old. Parehas mali sa panahon ngayon.

Also, an individual does not need to believe in a god to be a good person.

i strongly agree with this line.

in fact, a lot of believers act worse than non-believers. violent and spreading hate in the name of god.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2013, 01:48:28 am »
Quote
1&2. Did Stephen Hawkins say that this happened in 8k years ago (as the Bible says the world started around that time)? Or is it millions.. billions.. zillions of years ago? Ok, ok.. lets not even go far and start from our planet.. dinosaurs lived 8k years ago? ahh maybe just my imagination.

tsk tsk

you never clearly read my post

the year are dates when it is existed

6-8k years is the start of written history the old people wrote that never knew about science or the ritten history of the jews

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opinyon ko lang to ha, society dictates morality.

Basahin na lang ang mga holy books ng bawat religion at makikita mo ang evolution ng morality. For example, Abraham married his sister and had kids with her. Mohammed married a 9 year old. Parehas mali sa panahon ngayon.

Also, an individual does not need to believe in a god to be a good person.

so nalaman mo mali dahil may basehan ka kung walang bible at koran paano mo malalaman mali pala dahil sa ibang banse existing paden yan tol at tanggap pa din natin ikaw lang ata hindi kase na-expose sa mga myth food na naging foundation mo dahil alam mong mali at di tama

at hindi mali sa panahon natin ngayon by law you can marry your 2nd cousin in the philippines  and some countries practice incest

sabi nga paano mo malalaman ang straight at curve kung di mo alam ang itsura ng straight at curve


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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2013, 02:11:46 am »

"If there is no god" then what is your basis for morality?

paano mo malalaman ang mabuti o masama?

"mabuti" & "masama" is subjective to the norms of the community.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2013, 02:31:13 am »
"mabuti" & "masama" is subjective to the norms of the community.

There are communities whose norms are founded upon their belief in God, however they may interpret God to be.
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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2013, 03:16:25 am »
COmmunity don't beleive in GOD

1. the era of stalin - communism - responsible for killing 20-60 million people
2. the era of Mao Ze DOng - communism repsonsible for killing almost 40-70million people
3. the era of Pol Pot - communism - 2.5 million people
4. NOKOR - as you can see massive brainwashing


this is the country don't believed in GOD



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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2013, 03:36:23 am »
tsk tsk

you never clearly read my post

the year are dates when it is existed

6-8k years is the start of written history the old people wrote that never knew about science or the ritten history of the jews

so nalaman mo mali dahil may basehan ka kung walang bible at koran paano mo malalaman mali pala dahil sa ibang banse existing paden yan tol at tanggap pa din natin ikaw lang ata hindi kase na-expose sa mga myth food na naging foundation mo dahil alam mong mali at di tama

at hindi mali sa panahon natin ngayon by law you can marry your 2nd cousin in the philippines  and some countries practice incest

sabi nga paano mo malalaman ang straight at curve kung di mo alam ang itsura ng straight at curve



With all due respect sir. Kahit ulit ulitin ko po kasi basahin yung pinost ninyo e hirap pa rin ako intindihin. Hindi lang po ako ang nahihirapan sa sentence construction ninyo.

Ano po ba ulit sabi ng bibliya kung gaano katanda na ang mundo? the first man "Adam" came out 4000 BC?

Whos to say whats right and wrong? let me quote Mr. Yabang on this ""mabuti" & "masama" is subjective to the norms of the community."

Whats right in the Bible is not infallibly RIGHT for the entire Universe. Killing people might even be the right thing to do in an alternate world. The values for right and wrong is arbitrary, meaning to say they can change depending on the culture and situation.

Thats why your statement on straight or curve doesnt apply here.The straight line is a straight line wherever you go, it is a fact that the value of a straight line is the STRAIGHT LINE (if you get what i mean) lol.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2013, 03:50:19 am »
COmmunity don't beleive in GOD

1. the era of stalin - communism - responsible for killing 20-60 million people
2. the era of Mao Ze DOng - communism repsonsible for killing almost 40-70million people
3. the era of Pol Pot - communism - 2.5 million people
4. NOKOR - as you can see massive brainwashing


this is the country don't believed in GOD





How about the Crusades sir? Witch Hunts? Spanish Inquisition?

How about god vs sodom and gomorrah? great flood?

If you are claiming that the absence of Christianity brings certain doom to a group of people, thats just silly.

What did the Spaniards who brought Christianity to Philippines do to us again?

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2013, 04:27:18 am »
so pag hindi pa na-eexplain ng science (or simply hindi maexplain period) e god agad?  ???


Sa mundong ito Hinde natin fully maipapaliwanag lahat ng mga bagay dahil human beings are finite, we have limitations..

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2013, 05:09:37 am »

Sa mundong ito Hinde natin fully maipapaliwanag lahat ng mga bagay dahil human beings are finite, we have limitations..

wow... if all the great inventors and scientist etc... had that kind of thinking...
ano na kya tyo ngayon.... sad...  smoking::

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2013, 06:10:10 am »
wow... if all the great inventors and scientist etc... had that kind of thinking...
ano na kya tyo ngayon.... sad...  smoking::

Inventions / Technology is progressive we learn, gain knowledge and that is normal.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2013, 06:42:43 am »
Inventions / Technology is progressive we learn, gain knowledge and that is normal.

define knowledge... (based on the subject)

so Not normal is automatically (impossible...) god???

and trying to excel on something is not human??

based on your statement (human beings are finite, we have limitations..)


then f*%^K what Einstein said bout never to stop asking questions..

how would you know that humans reached the limit then? by gaining knowledge/learning perhaps.. loop smoking::







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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2013, 06:57:17 am »
With all due respect sir. Kahit ulit ulitin ko po kasi basahin yung pinost ninyo e hirap pa rin ako intindihin. Hindi lang po ako ang nahihirapan sa sentence construction ninyo.

Pareng Babtamisen. Parehas tayo. Masyadong isinasapuso ang ID nya yata.

so nalaman mo mali dahil may basehan ka kung walang bible at koran paano mo malalaman mali pala dahil sa ibang banse existing paden yan tol at tanggap pa din natin ikaw lang ata hindi kase na-expose sa mga myth food na naging foundation mo dahil alam mong mali at di tama

at hindi mali sa panahon natin ngayon by law you can marry your 2nd cousin in the philippines  and some countries practice incest



so agree ka sa incest at pedophilia? Kung hindi ka agree sa mga ito, e di ang society na iyong kinalakihan ang nagdikta ng iyong moralidad. 


Also, bawal sa batas ang pakasalan mo ang iyong cousin hanggang sa iyong 4th degree cousin.

Art. 38. The following marriages shall be void from the beginning for reasons of public policy:

(1) Between collateral blood relatives whether legitimate or illegitimate, up to the fourth civil degree;
(2) Between step-parents and step-children;
(3) Between parents-in-law and children-in-law;
(4) Between the adopting parent and the adopted child;
(5) Between the surviving spouse of the adopting parent and the adopted child;
(6) Between the surviving spouse of the adopted child and the adopter;
(7) Between an adopted child and a legitimate child of the adopter;
(8) Between adopted children of the same adopter; and
(9) Between parties where one, with the intention to marry the other, killed that other person's spouse, or his or her own spouse. (82)

Chapter 3 Article 38

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2013, 07:32:39 am »

How about the Crusades sir? Witch Hunts? Spanish Inquisition?

How about god vs sodom and gomorrah? great flood?

If you are claiming that the absence of Christianity brings certain doom to a group of people, thats just silly.

What did the Spaniards who brought Christianity to Philippines do to us again?


oh, all those are legit! coz those things were done in the name of god  ::)  laffman:: laffman:: laffman::

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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2013, 07:37:40 am »

oh, all those are legit! coz those things were done in the name of god  ::)  laffman:: laffman:: laffman::


Thats true because of their personal interest mainly for power, greed and money...

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2013, 02:08:26 pm »
Bakit nasa Moral Support ito? Ang ganitong topic dapat nasa Philo and Theo. Marami nang ganitong topic doon.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2013, 08:37:58 pm »
without the Bible, there will be no Sciences.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2013, 09:16:29 pm »
on the other hand, one must also consider that the christian new testament bible is ONLY the public discourse of Jesus.- depicted by his followers, not by jesus himself. and also prone to corruption for 2000 years.

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Re: Bible VS Science
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2013, 09:48:45 pm »
COmmunity don't beleive in GOD

1. the era of stalin - communism - responsible for killing 20-60 million people
2. the era of Mao Ze DOng - communism repsonsible for killing almost 40-70million people
3. the era of Pol Pot - communism - 2.5 million people
4. NOKOR - as you can see massive brainwashing


this is the country don't believed in GOD

Seigneur Idiot, this is perhaps off-topic and I might be wrong but I don't think that "community" and "Communism" are one and the same.

on the other hand, one must also consider that the christian new testament bible is ONLY the public discourse of Jesus.- depicted by his followers, not by jesus himself. and also prone to corruption for 2000 years.

By that same token, it must also be borne in mind that science is just as prone to corruption. Both Albert Schweitzer and Josef Mengele were men of science.
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