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Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« on: December 29, 2011, 08:41:01 pm »
December 21, 2011: The Philippines has asked the United States, its closest security partner, to give it at least a squadron of F-16 fighters to help upgrade its territorial defenses and two more military ships amid increasing tensions with China in the disputed islands in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), the foreign secretary said on Wednesday.

Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said he will meet with US Secretary of States Hillary Clinton and high officials of Pentagon in his visit to Washington, D.C., early next year  2012 to discuss the need to increase the Philippines's military presence in the area.

The Philippines has no air power to speak of, with its 40-year-old F-5A/Bs fighter jets retired from service several years ago. It has no bombers or surveillance aircraft and still flies Vietnam War-era UH-1H helicopters.

"We are just trying to restore our capability as it was before," Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario told reporters.

He said he hoped the fighters would be acquired through excess defense articles, a U.S. military aid program.

"I think we are actually behind the curve ... we have been far more advanced many years ago in terms of military capability," he said.

The request for US military assistance was first discussed during the visit of Clinton in the Philippines in November.

"We're trying to get assistance from several countries [to strengthen military capability] and the US has expressed willingness to assist us as we work on a minimum, credible defense posture [in the disputed islands in West Philippine Sea]," said del Rosario in a press luncheon briefing on Wednesday at a hotel in Pasay City.



USAF F-16C block 30 #88-0152 of the 63rd TFTS is parked in the static display at an air show. [Photo by Mike Kopack]

Del Rosario said acquisition of the F-16 fighters would be among issues to be discussed in strategic talks in Washington in the first quarter of 2012, when Del Rosario and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin meet their U.S. counterparts.

He said Washington has agreed to give Manila larger ships and faster aircraft to patrol disputed areas in the West Philippines Sea, as well as assist in setting up surveillance stations to improve the military's "maritime domain awareness".

Earlier this year, Manila accused Beijing of intruding into its territorial waters and attempting to plant markers on uninhabited islands in the Reed Bank, an area the Philippines claims to be within its exclusive economic zone.

Last August, Washington delivered a Hamilton-class coast guard cutter, the largest ship in the Philippine Navy's fleet.

A similar vessel is due to arrive in the third quarter of next year and a third might also be acquired.

As was the case with the Hamilton-class cutter, del Rosario said he hoped the transfer of F-16s would be free of charge under the aid program.

Manila would pick up the cost of refurbishment and repairs, he said.

USAF F-16C block 42 #90-0767 of the 63rd FS from Luke AFB is spotted landing at NAS Fort Worth on July 28th, 2005. [Photo by Keith Robinson]

The Philippines has said it will spend ₱ 40 billion pesos ($941 million) over the next five years to upgrade its military, buying new helicopters, ships and surveillance equipment.

He said the Philippines will request two more Hamilton class cutters with the first one delivered mid this year and a squadron or 12 units of fighter jets to be deployed on the disputed islands that are believed to be rich in natural gas and marine resources.

Moves to strengthen the country's military capability came amid Chinese deployment of more navy ships in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea. "We need to stand up and defend our territorial claims on what we think is ours," said del Rosario.

He also believes that the US foreign policy is to re-engage Asia to a greater extent as it believes that the region has taken the role as key driver of economic growth.

He said the US is also planning to station Marines in Australia and Singapore amid increasing tensions in the disputed Spratly Islands.

At the diplomatic front, del Rosario said the Philippines remains hopeful that the government's proposal to establish a Zone of Peace, Freedom, Friendship and Cooperation that seeks to segregate disputed from nondisputed parts of the South China Sea will be integrated in the binding Code of Conduct in the South China Sea which China and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) have agreed to adopt during the last ASEAN meeting in Bali.

He said the Philippines's proposal submitted for adoption by consensus of the 10 member-countries during the Asean Regional Forum was apparently not considered after two members—Laos and Cambodia—boycotted the maritime legal experts meeting in Manila that was intended to consider the adoption of the Philippine proposal.

Four ASEAN members—Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia—are claimants to parts of Spratly Islands, along with Taipei. China is claiming the entire Spratlys.

Other Asean members include Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia, Singapore, Burma/Myanmar and Thailand.

US ready to arm Philippines amid China tension

The United States said it was ready to provide hardware to modernize the military of the Philippines, which vowed to "stand up to any aggressive action" at the West Philippines Sea (South China Sea) with China.

Tensions in the strategic and resource-rich West Philippines Sea have escalated  with the Philippines and Vietnam alarmed at what they say are increasingly aggressive actions by Beijing in the disputed waters.

"We are concerned that recent incidents in the South China Sea could undermine peace and stability," Clinton told reporters, urging "all sides to exercise self-restraint."

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 12:51:58 am »
YUng mga hardware stuff na iniwan sa Iraq... Ready for disposal ng mga contractors ngayon dapat hingiin na lng at magpadala ng isang container ship at ikarga papunta sa atin kaysa i-scrap nila.

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 04:35:08 am »
magsasayang na naman nang pera......  smoking::

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 05:46:46 am »
kelangan ko na atang mag-practice ng target shooting...this is war unfolding...

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 05:47:57 pm »
good luck sa maintenance nyan. sometime later mala tora tora na rin takbo nyan

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 06:02:32 pm »
lolz... what are they gonna do with them? sink some illegal fishing boats? do they know that the f16 design dates back to 1974?  ::lmao

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 06:18:51 pm »
lolz... what are they gonna do with them? sink some illegal fishing boats? do they know that the f16 design dates back to 1974?  ::lmao

and yet they are still one of the deadly flying birds soaring high
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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 07:01:01 pm »
may baril walang bala.

may bulsa wala namang pera.

ang aking brip ay butas pa.

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 07:25:26 pm »
i think its much better if our president will lend the money on poor people.. specially sa mga nasalanta ni sendong.. nand2 ako now sa china and i know (in my own opinion) na kahit bumili pa c pnoy ng f-16's mahihirapan pa rin tau sa mga intsik na toh.. sana imotivate nya na lang kung paano babangon ang pilipinas..
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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 08:15:51 pm »
puro negative naman kayo..

pag in event my lumusob sa pinas anu ipang lalaban ninyo.. titi ninyo =)

new planes can guard our airspace... marami mga commercial plane na dumadaan dito sa pinas na dapat nag babayad ng airspace.. it will also give confidence sa mga foreign investor..

and what if may mangyari tulad ng 911 sa america.. anu ipang hahabol sa mga na hijack na airplane TITI NINYO?


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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 08:37:44 pm »
OT: Pnoys next plan:  Eradicate all crab thinking citizen.

Puro lumang gadgets ng AFP: "puro kasi corrupt, hayan nahuhuli na tayo. Nagiging kawawa ang AFP."

Upgrading the system: "Waste of money, magastos maintenance, kulang sa training pilots, lumang modelo, walang ilalaban sa kalaban, etc."


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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 08:51:31 pm »
thats correct that we need to upgrade in a lot of aspects. sana linisin muna natin sarili nating bakuran para tumaas ang respeto ng international comunity sa atin. the irony is we're going to fund a war and we can not feed the poor.


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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 09:52:55 pm »
thats correct that we need to upgrade in a lot of aspects. sana linisin muna natin sarili nating bakuran para tumaas ang respeto ng international comunity sa atin. the irony is we're going to fund a war and we can not feed the poor.




I believe it is not the war what the government is funding. It is the national security's concern after all.

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 10:01:10 pm »
sana isama na rin sa training sa military ang mga ordinary civilian katulad ng sa S.Kor na pagdating nga age 21 kailangan pumasok sa military camp ang mga lalake, aanhin mo f-16 kung wala naman marunong lumaban

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 10:40:30 pm »
My 2 cents here is to just count your blessings.  toast::

It is a small squad but the rationale here is to have knowledgeable pilots 24/7.  In times of a very large scale war, allies will need augmentation/support of skilled individuals.

I am proud Filipino of Chinese blood and support this development 100%.   ::inposition

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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 11:17:51 pm »

I believe it is not the war what the government is funding. It is the national security's concern after all.
fighter planes are not over the counter products. it should come with a radar system. we're just like sending blind pilots out there without a radar system in case of any threath. whos going to tell them when and where to fly without detecting first the intruders?
in fact lots of our international airports doesn't have any landing instruments or an upgraded reliable radar system. no wonder we're included in the list of countries having the worst airports in the world.

we should not forget that there is so called economic warfare. unahin muna natin sigurong bawiin yung mga investments na pinul out sa pilipinas at nalipat sa mga bansang nakikipag agawan ngayon sa spratly. tapos halos wala tayong control sa importation lalo na galing china. bigas galing vietnam. di ba importante ang food security? maging self suficient?

and speaking of national security, bakit malayang nakaka labas pasok mostly mga intsik na drug lords at traders sa pilipinas at yung mga kababayan natin na nahuhulihan ng drugs sa ibang bansa lalo na sa china ay nabibitay? dito nakakatakas pa sa kulungan. at intsik pa man din.


 
 


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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2011, 01:16:03 am »
magsasayang na naman nang pera......  smoking::


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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2011, 07:23:04 am »

idiocarcy at its best. kapag gumagawa ng magandang move ang gobyerno negative at negative pa rin ang mga ilan sating pilipino. palibhasa bobo.

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2011, 03:20:10 pm »
It is nagsasayang ng pera koz definitely, you are buying jurassic technology. Secondly, all purchases always has a built-in commission structures.  What they could have done is follow the example of Japan and Korea: create a joint venture with the technology supplier and make the jet planes here in our own country.  That creates jobs besides giving us know-how in making our own fighter jets.  There will be created downstream support industries plus projecting the country as a manufacturing base of high technology. Note that Filipinos are fast learners and have that creative ingenuity and lateral thinking that may even modify the mechanics of those jets for better performance.

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2011, 04:56:28 pm »
It is nagsasayang ng pera koz definitely, you are buying jurassic technology. Secondly, all purchases always has a built-in commission structures.  What they could have done is follow the example of Japan and Korea: create a joint venture with the technology supplier and make the jet planes here in our own country.  That creates jobs besides giving us know-how in making our own fighter jets.  There will be created downstream support industries plus projecting the country as a manufacturing base of high technology. Note that Filipinos are fast learners and have that creative ingenuity and lateral thinking that may even modify the mechanics of those jets for better performance.

Very well said!

as we all know all of our govt deals are always tainted with corruption & scandal. kaya di mo masisi na may magsabi na
"sayang na naman sa pera".

the suggestion above is a very good one if indeed our govt is serious in upgrading our defenses. its like hitting 2 birds with one stone....may eroplano ka na, may trabaho ka pa!

filipinos are very skilled, just provide Juan Dela Cruz ample training & resources & i believe he can give you one hell of a fighter jet; wag lang sana pasukan ng corruption, kick backs, crab mentality & the like.

hope PENOY reads this.....tama na po ang mga pa-pogi speeches, its time to be serious in improving our air force.
check the suggestion above.





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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2011, 10:01:12 pm »
sasabihin another crab mentality thing

in reality f-16 were outdated, not advance fighter jets and china is pirating the design of the latest controversial plane of America F-35 ba yun na may mataas ang kill ratio kung kalaban ay f-16,

kahit na national security purpose it is a waste money kung seryoso ang mga allies na kumuha ng skilled pilots e dapat may agreement na train na yung mga pilots natin sa mga latest fighters nila kase f-35 yung sasakyan nila e f-16 sila sanay yung g-force ng f-35 e mahihirapan sila useless den

tama ang sabi nila gawin na lang na pagawaan ng jet fighters and pinas mas matipid yun ang income generator pa

 

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Re: Philippines will buy 12 F-16 Fighter Jets from USA
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2011, 10:09:07 pm »
It is nagsasayang ng pera koz definitely, you are buying jurassic technology. Secondly, all purchases always has a built-in commission structures.  What they could have done is follow the example of Japan and Korea: create a joint venture with the technology supplier and make the jet planes here in our own country.  That creates jobs besides giving us know-how in making our own fighter jets.  There will be created downstream support industries plus projecting the country as a manufacturing base of high technology. Note that Filipinos are fast learners and have that creative ingenuity and lateral thinking that may even modify the mechanics of those jets for better performance.
Very well said!

as we all know all of our govt deals are always tainted with corruption & scandal. kaya di mo masisi na may magsabi na
"sayang na naman sa pera".

the suggestion above is a very good one if indeed our govt is serious in upgrading our defenses. its like hitting 2 birds with one stone....may eroplano ka na, may trabaho ka pa!

filipinos are very skilled, just provide Juan Dela Cruz ample training & resources & i believe he can give you one hell of a fighter jet; wag lang sana pasukan ng corruption, kick backs, crab mentality & the like.

hope PENOY reads this.....tama na po ang mga pa-pogi speeches, its time to be serious in improving our air force.
check the suggestion above.





good to hear that we still have some thinking class citizens.