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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2014, 11:06:54 am »
I've read na one among the families of a passenger na they can still ring his phone but nobody is answering.. creepy talaga.

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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2014, 11:12:43 am »
The media here have now declared it's a mystery ......

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...t_17336083.htm

It must be awful for the families of the crew and passengers, having no closure, just more and more media speculation.

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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2014, 12:30:29 am »
One possibility has received overwhelmingly negative public reaction.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/09/Nizars-new-Bermuda-Triangle-tweet-slammed/
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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2014, 12:53:24 am »

Chinese Martyrs' Brigade group claims responsibility for flight MH370

Or Japan !?

The plane was brought down by a localized EMP, emitted from an Aichi M6A, launched from an I400 Japanese sub

Or Mossad !!?

Did the Mossad Blow Up the Malaysian Airlines Jet?

Or Passenger 84 !!!?

Who is Passenger 84 on MH370 ?

Or the military !!!!?

Was Flight MH370 Shot Down By the Military — Accidentally or Otherwise?

Or another dimension !!!!!?

Malaysia Airlines plane went to another Dimension?

Or Aliens !!!!!!?

Did Aliens Abduct Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?

or anything else ??
Wow, there's nothing like giving us a menu of possible choices. Talking about covering all bases and then some...Mandala

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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2014, 01:30:54 am »
While somewhat entertaining, I don't see the value of throwing out various unverified claims. Air France had a plane crash some 6 or 7 years ago. Similarly lost contact, and similarly did not send out any distress call or other other signals. Excessive speculation just fuels fears unnecessarily. I believe it's best to wait out the findings of the people who are actually working on the investtigations.

Chinese Martyrs' Brigade group claims responsibility for flight MH370

Or Japan !?

The plane was brought down by a localized EMP, emitted from an Aichi M6A, launched from an I400 Japanese sub

Or Mossad !!?

Did the Mossad Blow Up the Malaysian Airlines Jet?

Or Passenger 84 !!!?

Who is Passenger 84 on MH370 ?

Or the military !!!!?

Was Flight MH370 Shot Down By the Military — Accidentally or Otherwise?

Or another dimension !!!!!?

Malaysia Airlines plane went to another Dimension?

Or Aliens !!!!!!?

Did Aliens Abduct Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?

or anything else ??
Wow, there's nothing like giving us a menu of possible choices. Talking about covering all bases and then some...Mandala

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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2014, 04:13:23 am »
Strange: Cell Phones of Some Passengers of Missing Flight MH370 Rings, But No One Answers

“This morning, around 11:40 a.m., I called my older brother’s number twice, and I got the ringing tone,” said Bian Liangwei, sister of one of the passengers. At 2 p.m., Liangwei called and heard it ring again.

It was the same story for another man from Beijing who called his brother’s phone, even doing it in the presence of reporters, and got connected indicating that the phone is working and can be answered from somewhere.

Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Commercial Director Hugh Dunleavy added that the airline is also trying to reach the mobile phones of the crew members, which were also ringing, and have been turned over to Chinese investigators.

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http://kickerdaily.com/strange-cell-phones-of-some-passengers-of-missing-flight-mh370-rings-but-no-one-answers/

 ??? ??? ???


Chinese Group Claiming Responsibility for Missing Plane a Hoax

Malaysian authorities dismissed as hoax an email allegedly from a previously unknown group, Chinese Martyr’s Brigade, which has earlier claimed responsibility for the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370,

“There is no sound or credible grounds to justify their claims,” acting transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said on Monday.

Hussein said the email did not explain what happened to the plane, nor did it identify its present location.

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http://kickerdaily.com/chinese-group-claiming-responsibility-for-missing-plane-a-hoax/




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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2014, 03:25:41 am »
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The airline said it was taking seriously a report by a South African woman who said the co-pilot of the missing plane had invited her and a female travelling companion to sit in the cockpit during a flight two years ago, in an apparent breach of security.

"Malaysia Airlines has become aware of the allegations being made against First Officer Fariq Ab Hamid which we take very seriously. We are shocked by these allegations. We have not been able to confirm the validity of the pictures and videos of the alleged incident," the airline said in a statement.

The woman, Jonti Roos, said in an interview with Australia's Channel Nine TV that she and her friend were invited to fly in the cockpit by Fariq and the pilot between Phuket, Thailand, and Kuala Lumpur in December 2011. The TV channel showed pictures of the four apparently in a plane's cockpit.

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Re: Malaysian airlines, missing.
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2014, 04:22:00 am »
DESTINY is not a matter of chance...It is a matter of CHOICE.

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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2014, 04:58:16 am »
From CNN

Confusion clouds search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

(CNN) -- The puzzling scraps of information that have come to light about the Malaysian airliner that disappeared more than four days ago are generating a lot of bafflement and an increasing amount of frustration.

Amid continued confusion about where the plane with 239 people on board might have ended up, Vietnam said Wednesday it is pulling back its search efforts until Malaysian authorities come up with better information on where to look.

"We have scaled down the searches for today and are still waiting for the response from Malaysian authorities," Phan Quy Tieu, Vietnam's vice minister of transportation, told reporters.

He described as "insufficient" the information provided so far on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which vanished early Saturday over Southeast Asia.

The apparent cause of the veiled irritation on the Vietnamese side concerns the deepening mystery over the path the plane may have taken after it lost contact with air traffic control on its scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

A senior Malaysian air force official on Tuesday told CNN that after the plane lost all communications around 1:30 a.m. Saturday, it still showed up on radar for more than an hour longer. Before it vanished altogether, the plane apparently turned away from its intended destination and traveled hundreds of miles off course, the official said.

It was last detected, according to the official, near Pulau Perak, a very small island in the Straits of Malacca, the body of water between the Malay Peninsula and the Indonesian island of Sumatra.

Those assertions, reported by CNN and other new organizations, have fueled surprise among aviation analysts and a fresh burst of theories about what might have happened to the plane. They also appear to have created tensions between some of the different countries involved in the search efforts.

Uncertainty over exact path

But some Malaysian officials have reportedly cast doubt on the details of the change in direction.

The New York Times cited Tengku Sariffuddin Tengku Ahmad, spokesman for the Prime Minister's office, as saying that he had checked with senior military officials, who told him there was no evidence that the plane had flown back over the Malay Peninsula to the Straits of Malacca, only that it may have attempted to turn back.

The Prime Minister's office didn't immediately return calls from CNN seeking comment Wednesday.

But the air force chief Gen. Rodzali Daud didn't go as far as denying that the plane had traveled hundreds of miles off course.

The air force is still "examining and analyzing all possibilities as regards to the airliner's flight paths subsequent to its disappearance," he said in a statement Wednesday.

Daud said it "would not be appropriate" for the air force to "issue any official conclusions as to the aircraft's flight path until a high amount of certainty and verification is achieved."

He denied, though, that he had made statements to a Malaysian newspaper similar to those that the senior air force official made to CNN.

Searchers find no trace

The reported change of course would fit in with some of the areas that search and rescue teams have been combing over the past several days.

Dozens of ships and planes from various countries have been searching the sea between the northeast coast of Malaysia and southwest Vietnam, the area where the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers.

But they have also been looking off the west coast of the Malay Peninsula, in the Straits of Malacca, and north into the Andaman Sea -- areas that would tally with a change of direction by the plane.

They are also searching the land surface in between those areas.

So far, though, searchers have found no confirmed trace of the plane anywhere.

Read more:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1





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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2014, 11:12:31 pm »


U.S. officials have an “indication” the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

“We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean,” the senior official said.

The official initially said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. Officials later said the plane likely did not fly four or five hours, but did not specify how long it may have been airborne.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “It’s my understanding that based on some new information that’s not necessarily conclusive, but new information, an additional search area may be opened in the Indian Ocean, and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy.”

Carney did not specify the nature of the “new information.”

Pentagon officials said that the USS Kidd was being moved at the request of Malaysia and is heading towards an area where the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea meet. The ship has helicopters aboard that can scour the area.

The U.S. action came hours after Malaysian officials said they had extended their search into the Andaman Sea and had requested help from India in the search for the missing plane and its 239 passengers.

Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said that the search’s “main focus has always been in the South China Sea,” which is east of Malaysia and along the plane’s route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

But the search was extended earlier this week to include water far to the west on the other side of Malaysia.

“We are working very closely with the FAA and the NTSB on the issue of a possible air turn back,” Hishammuddin said, referring to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board.

“They have indicated to us that based on the information given by the Malaysian authorities, they — being the FAA and NTSB — the U.S. team was of the view that there was reasonable ground for the Malaysian authorities to deploy resources to conduct search on the western side of the peninsula of Malaysia. Under the circumstances, it is appropriate to conduct the search even if the evidence suggests there is a possibility of finding a minor evidence to suggest that … the aircraft would have been there.”

Hishammuddin said it was possible the plane kept flying after dropping off of radar. “Of course, this is why we have extended the search,” he said.

The Malaysians spent much of today’s news conference dismissing earlier leads.

“I’ve heard of many incidents from many sources. Like we have said from the start, we have looked at every lead and in most cases — in fact in all cases — that we have pursued, we have not found anything positive,” Hishamuddin said.

He said that pictures of three large objects floating in the South China Sea posted Wednesday on a Chinese government website were not debris from the missing plane.


Ref: http://interesting-facts.info/2014/03/us-officials-have-indication-malaysia-airline-crashed-into-indian-ocean/
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2014, 11:01:40 pm »
Another expert weighs in on the mystery of Flight 370.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/top-general-heres-where-to-look-for-missing-jet/
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2014, 04:08:47 am »
Nabasa kulang and share kulang din...

CNN's 'black hole' theory for Flight 370 demonstrates astonishing scientific illiteracy at popular news network

(NaturalNews) In covering possible explanations for the vanishing of Flight 370, CNN's Don Lemon hilariously asked, on air, whether a black hole might have been the possible cause.

Never mind the fact that if a black hole existed in Earth's atmosphere, the entire planet would have been sucked into it, not merely one Boeing 777. This comment has to be one of the most insanely scientifically illiterate comments yet made about Flight 370, by any news source. It's even more preposterous than the idea that Flight 370 might have been plucked out of the sky by aliens. Why? Because the aliens theory is at least physically possible based on advanced alien technology a million years ahead of our own, while the "black hole" explanation is complete bunk because the entire planet would have been sucked into the black hole (and therefore CNN would finally be off the air and stop polluting the cosmos with its broadcasts).

Not to be outdone by the remarkable ignorance of Don Lemon, Mary Schiavo, former Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Transportation, added this amazing gem: "A small black hole would suck in our entire universe, so we know it's not that."

I'm still trying to figure out which of these comments is more stupid. As anyone familiar with astrophysics knows, a small black hole does not "suck in our entire universe," otherwise there would not be a universe because the universe is full of black holes. I am astonished that a former top executive of the U.S. Dept. of Transportation does not understand basic cosmology.

Black holes are not magical devices. They are incredibly high-density, high-mass objects whose gravitational pull is so strong that even rays of light cannot escape them. (Yes, light is subject to the laws of gravity, too.) For a black hole to have sucked in Flight 370, it would have also sucked in Earth, the moon and almost certainly our own sun and outer planets, too. Perhaps what Shiavo meant to say is that a small black hole would "suck in our entire solar system" -- a somewhat rational comment, depending on the velocity and mass of the black hole in question. Then again, black holes don't actually "suck" anything. They bend the fabric of spacetime, causing objects to "fall" toward them. The sun does the same thing on a less dramatic scale, which is why the Earth orbits the sun rather than moving in a straight line into deep space.

Of course, I have also taken guesses at what happened to Flight 370, asking in one article whether "supernatural causes" might have to be invoked. But even in that article, I concluded, "As someone who is trained in the sciences, I remain very skeptical that Flight 370 vanished for supernatural reasons."

Had I suggested that Flight 370 was "sucked in by a black hole," I'm sure the entire Natural News readership would have laughed their heads off at such a stupid comment. Yet when CNN says it, it's almost as if such stupidity is entirely expected. In other words, no one is surprised that CNN journalists are scientifically illiterate.

Perhaps that's why no one with an IQ above room temperature bothers to watch CNN in the first place.

More scientific theories for CNN and Don Lemon

Just to keep things interesting for CNN, here's a few more "scientific" suggestions Don Lemon can use on the air to demonstrate his scientific genius:

• The sun is a giant electrical heater that's hot on the outside and cool in the center.
• The Earth's tides cause the repeated arrival of Haley's Comet every few decades.
• The Big Bang refers to the really loud sound emitted by particular accelerators.
• Airplanes can fly because passenger cabins are filled with helium, making the plane lighter than air.
• The combustion engine works by harnessing microscopic nuclear fusion explosions in gasoline.
• GMOs are incredibly safe and pose no ecological risk of genetic pollution or crop failures.
• Nutrition is worthless and nutrients have no function or role in the human body.
• Flu shot vaccines prevent the flu.


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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2014, 08:32:44 pm »
This still does not answer the big questions

How or who turned off communications ?

Why turn south to crash in the middle
of the deepest ocean in the world ?

It does mean if the passengers are dead
then the patent issue will be interesting
and I expect that will disappear in legalese.

As the Romans used to say 'Cui Bono '

Who benefits ??

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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2014, 08:40:01 pm »
ano pong patent sir ?

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2014, 12:18:06 am »
ano pong patent sir ?

Indeed. Would you care to explain the patent issue to which you're referring, Seigneur Minervacussi?
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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2014, 07:15:31 am »
oo nga anong patent yan? haha. anyway most of our floating thoughts will be answered once the blackbox is retrieved.

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« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2014, 06:17:51 am »


With the disappearance of those on Malaysian Airlines MH370 billionaire Jacob Rothschild becomes the sole owner of an important semiconductor patent.



Coincidence? I think not! The mysteries surrounding Malaysian Airliner MH-370 continue to grow with each passing day and Mr. Rothschild is smack dab in the middle.



Illuminati member, Rothschild, is believed to have exploited the airliner to gain full Patent Rights of an incredible KL-03 micro-chip. The US technological company, Freescale Semiconductor, who shared its rights with Rothschild, had twenty senior members on board who had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar system’s the day before the plane went missing.



The Semiconductor company develops microprocessors, sensors, and other technology including stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions.



But the questions that arise are why were there so many Freescale employees traveling together? What were their jobs? Their mission? And did they employees carry valuable cargo? With all the power our elite carry, why couldn’t they track down the missing plane?



Of the 239 people aboard flight MH370, most of them were engineers and others working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China and Kuala Lumpur more efficient.



“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.” Mitch Haws vice president of global communications and investors relations



According to the Freescale’s website, operations for the company began in 1972 and covered an eight hectare site that tests and manufactures microprocessors, digital signal processors and integrated radio frequency circuits.



Furthermore it owns Freescale RF which is involved in making solutions for Aerospace and Defense including: Battlefield communications, Avionics, HF Radar – Band L and S, Missile Guidance, Electronic Warfare, and Identification (IFF).



But here’s where it gets even more interesting. The Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group who’s past advisors have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major. Some of the companies previous clients include the construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden, the Saudi Binladin Group.



What makes this claim stand out above all the other theories is the fact that so many highly qualified staff members were on board and if the airliner crashed into the Indian Ocean, as recently reported, then this would validate the claim all the more.



Considering the large passenger jet had flown undetected for six hours, the elites had to be involved because they are the only ones who can accomplish such a task.



According to World Truth TV…..



“Avoiding radar via “cloaking technology” has long been one of the objectives of the defense industry and Freescale has been active developing chips for military radar.



On its website, the company says its radio frequency products meet the requirements for applications in “avionics, radar, communications, missile guidance, electronic warfare and identification friend or foe”.



Last June it announced it was creating a team of specialists dedicated to producing “radio frequency power products” for the defense industry.



And on March 3, it announced it was releasing 11 of these new gadgets for use in “high frequency, VHF and low-band UHF radar and radio communications”.



The company [Freescale] did not respond to questions from Express Online, including whether any of its missing employees had been working on the defense products.



It neither provided any responses to the latest bizarre conspiracy theory being widely published on the comments sections of newspaper websites and other internet forums.



The comment reads: “It reads: “Have you pieced together the puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China? If not, here are your missing pieces.



Four days after the flight MH370 disappear, semiconductor patent was approved by the U.S. patent office patent is divided in parts of 20% between five starters. One of the owners is the company itself, Freescale Semiconductor, Austin, Texas (USA), and the other four Chinese employees of the company: Peidong Wang, Zhijun Chen, Cheng and Li Ying Zhijong, all the Suzhou City. And they all passengers of Malaysia Airlines plane disappeared on March 8, according Eternity.”



It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.”



Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved.”



Although a Freescale patent exists under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities.



If the patent holder dies, the other owners share equally in dividends from the deceased. If four of the five patentees die, then the patentee left alive gets 100% of the patent. That remaining patent holder is the company Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? The answer is: Jacob Rothschild. British billionaire owns the company Blackstone, which in turn owns the company Freescale Semiconductors. Several speculations on the Internet now pay attention to this circumstance. The Rothschilds are a dynasty of financiers and international bankers of German-Jewish origin . The family is from the nineteenth century one of the most influential families of bankers and financiers of EuropE...linksplatinum



Is this just another coincidence? I don’t think so.



Rothschild is hiding evidence to gain the rights to this semiconductor. He wants power and he wants his money! It may have taken 239 deaths to do it, but to him, that’s just part of population control. In the end, he gets him money, his fame, and his power; all while the world remains silent. Makes you sick doesn’t it!

Time to expose this fraud for who he is!

Thank You Robert Carobene for sharing this.

source link~~~>http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/20...y-2607888.html

and thank you...linkplatinum...


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« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2014, 02:11:39 pm »
If the Illuminati are supposed to be so smart, why is it so easy to see through their deception?

Or on the other hand...

http://www.thewrap.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-conspiracy-theories
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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2014, 07:12:11 pm »
Dun ako sa Pitbull version... ::laffman

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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2014, 10:33:53 pm »
Just read in the facebook...maybe this is the best possible scenario...

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Chris Goodfellow believes the pilot of the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi airport, pictured, after an in-flight emergency. (Google Earth)

A lot of speculation about MH370. Terrorism, hijack, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN – almost disturbing. I tend to look for a more simple explanation of this event.

Loaded 777 departs midnight from Kuala to Beijing. Hot night. Heavy aircraft. About an hour out across the gulf towards Vietnam the plane goes dark meaning the transponder goes off and secondary radar tracking goes off.

Two days later we hear of reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar meaning the plane is being tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the straits of Malacca.

When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and I searched for airports in proximity to the track towards southwest.

The left turn is the key here. This was a very experienced senior Captain with 18,000 hours. Maybe some of the younger pilots interviewed on CNN didn’t pick up on this left turn. We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don’t want to be thinking what are you going to do – you already know what you are going to do. Instinctively when I saw that left turn with a direct heading I knew he was heading for an airport. Actually he was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi a 13,000 foot strip with an approach over water at night with no obstacles. He did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000 foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier towards Langkawi and also a shorter distance.

Take a look on Google Earth at this airport. This pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make that immediate turn back to the closest safe airport.

For me the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense if a fire. There was most likely a fire or electrical fire. In the case of fire the first response if to pull all the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one.

If they pulled the busses the plane indeed would go silent. It was probably a serious event and they simply were occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, Navigate and lastly communicate. There are two types of fires. Electrical might not be as fast and furious and there might or might not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility given the timeline that perhaps there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires and it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes this happens with underinflated tires. Remember heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. A tire fire once going would produce horrific incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks but this is a no no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter but this will only last for a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one of my own in a flight bag and I still carry one in my briefcase today when I fly).

What I think happened is that they were overcome by smoke and the plane just continued on the heading probably on George (autopilot) until either fuel exhaustion or fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. I said four days ago you will find it along that route – looking elsewhere was pointless.

This pilot, as I say, was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. No doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijack would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It would probably have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided on where they were taking it.

Surprisingly none of the reporters , officials, other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot’s viewpoint. If something went wrong where would he go? Thanks to Google earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times. I guess we will eventually find out when you help me spread this theory on the net and some reporters finally take a look on Google earth and put 2 and 2 together. Also a look at the age and number of cycles on those nose tires might give us a good clue too.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing – you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed I believe in Columbus Ohio in the eighties. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn’t instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually but lost 30 odd souls. In the 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire simply overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. Just ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what the transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.

Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. 2+2=4 That for me is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction.

Smart pilot. Just didn’t have the time.

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Source: http://www.hellou.com/2014/03/veteran-pilot-explains-theory-flight-mh370-makes-perfect-sense-3147/

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