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Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« on: June 24, 2013, 07:34:06 am »
Gov’t offers P18K per estero family


The government is offering P18,000 to each of the 20,000 families of informal settlers living along waterways in Metro Manila so they can rent decent and safe homes elsewhere for 12 months while officials are looking for a place to resettle them permanently.

But the NGO Urban Poor Associates (UPA) sees the government offer—its monthly equivalent of P1,500 is just enough to rent a room in a squatter colony—as a “band-aid solution” to the housing problem.

“We did some pencil-pushing. It’s cheaper if we give them P18,000 to go to a safe place,” Interior Undersecretary Francisco Fernandez, the official in charge of relocating 100,000 families in the metropolis out of danger areas, said in an interview by phone.

If the informal settlers choose to stay in their hovels along estuaries or under bridges, the government will end up shelling out more for their relief, rescue, rehabilitation and evacuation when the waterways flood during typhoons, Fernandez said.

The relocation assistance for the 20,000 families runs up to P360 million, he said.

“It ends up very expensive,” he added.

Aquino’s plan

In 2011, President Aquino unveiled a P50-billion relocation plan for the 100,000 families of informal settlers, or P10 billion a year until he steps down in 2016.

It has been two years since, but the program has not taken off yet, mainly because of the difficulty of finding a resettlement place that is not only safe, cheap and decent but also accessible so that the resettlers’ livelihood will not be disrupted.

And then the government’s point man, Interior Secretary Jesse Robredo, died in a plane crash in August last year, and local officials requested that the clearing of waterways be put off in view of the elections in May this year.

But with the prospect of massive flooding in the metropolis coming with the onset of the rainy season, officials are scrambling to implement the plan.

The government aims to relocate 19,440 families to be able to clear eight major waterways that flow into Manila Bay, and ease flooding.

Public Works Secretary Rogelio Singson last week admitted that the clearing of the waterways could not be completed until yearend.

But with the financial incentive for the informal settlers, the job could be hastened.

The offer of P18,000, however, doesn’t appear enticing to the UPA, which argues that a poor family may be able to rent a room for a few months with that money, but it will still be in the slums somewhere in the city.

“It’s the same,” UPA information officer Princess Asuncion said. “Their solutions are bad and a waste of money. How many urban poor are they planning to relocate, and you’ll give them P18,000 each? All are band-aid solutions.”

DSWD help

Fernandez acknowledged that with P1,500 a month, the families were likely to find rooms only in slums. But he gave assurance that they would not be fending for themselves, as they would be assisted by the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD).

“There will be counseling and social support from the DSWD. This is like a modified CCT (conditional cash transfer),” he said.

As the families leave, the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) and the Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) will dismantle their shanties and dredge the waterways, increasing their capacity to carry water during heavy rain.

Also, the National Housing Authority (NHA) will double its efforts to build in-city or off-site permanent relocation areas.

“We’re hitting many birds with one stone,” Fernandez said.

UPA executive director Denis Murphy, a former Jesuit priest who has been working with the poor in the capital for years, said it would be more prudent to relocate the families when their permanent homes were ready.

Proximity to jobs

Murphy conceded that informal settlers are clogging waterways, but said the ones he knew were moving.

“They should make a real effort to develop near-city, in-city relocation and after a year the people will be very happy to move. The people know what’s best for them. If it’s a safe place where the children can play, enjoy fresh air, and it’s near the people’s work, they’ll rush to it,” he said by phone.

“Living on esteros is not nice. How to deal with that, that’s where we differ,” he added.

Murphy reminded officials about the Urban Development and Housing Act, which set limits on evictions, and the President’s “covenant with the poor,” which restricted resettlement to on-site, in-city and near-city areas.

But Murphy did not rule out the possibility that the poor—and the public at large—are being taken for a spin whenever they are told that they are being relocated for their own good.

He said most families were complying with the standard 3 meters away from the waterway, contrary to perceptions that they were blocking the waterways.

“This idea that they’re saving lives by getting people out, I don’t know how many of them really believe that,” he said.

Slow to build

Sixty percent of the 100,000 families of informal settlers in the metropolis live along waterways. Of these, close to 20,000 are along major waterways: San Juan River, Tullahan River, Manggahan Floodway, Maricaban Creek, Estero Tripa de Gallina, Pasig River, Estero de Sunog Apog and Estero de Maypajo.

The NHA has so far constructed 4,500 off-site housing units in Bulacan and Laguna, and is expected to add 3,500 in-city units in Manila, Caloocan and Mandaluyong by October, or a total of 8,000 units.

But the job doesn’t stop there. Some 12,000 units more are needed to house all the 20,000 families. That’s why Social Housing Finance Corp. is offering financing for the families of informal settlers to build their own homes within the city, Fernandez said.

Families who accept off-site homes, or opt to rent within the city while awaiting for a permanent house, will be given P18,000 each, he said.

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 09:18:57 am »
tayo na nagbabayad ng tax para sa kanila hanggang diyan ba naman tayo pa rin sasagot, bibigyan na ng 18k plus bibigyan pa ng 1500 kada buwan may reklamo pa kasi wala naman daw mauupahan sa halagang 1500 smoking::

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 09:25:45 am »
karamihan naman jan mga propesyonal squatters, pinapaupahan sa iba or ibebenta mga rights. minsan umaabot pa ng milyon.

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 09:51:13 am »
karamihan naman jan mga propesyonal squatters, pinapaupahan sa iba or ibebenta mga rights. minsan umaabot pa ng milyon.

Totoo yan.

Also eto ang pinaka aksayang pag gagamitan ng pera dahil babalik at babalik yan sa estero. Bakit kasi hindi magsipaguwian sa probinsya at nagsisiksikan lahat sa manila.

Kung yung pera sana gamitin para magtayo ng mga industriya para bigyan ng trabaho etong mga to.

Pero mahirap solusyunan ang katamaran.

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 10:18:26 am »
Kaya madaming mahirap sa pinas eh. Kasi sa pinas "ok lang" maging mahirap. Illegal na nga yung ginawa, nakaka purhisyo na at lahat eh babayaran pa? Susmiyo maging squater nlng kaya ako..


Kung minsan naiisip ko tuloy na dapat sinusunog nalang lahat ng squaters area..  smoking::

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 10:31:36 am »
Kung minsan naiisip ko tuloy na dapat sinusunog nalang lahat ng squaters area..  smoking::
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 10:35:08 am »
I like the way you think.
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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 10:46:56 am »
e kung yun 18k e ipunin rumenta ng barko dalhin sila sa probinsya nila yun natirang pera magtayo ng negosyo dun di yun ganyan pasakit na nga sila sa bansa pasakit din sa mga tax payer e kung may 18k tapos 1.5k monthly ang sarap nun wala ng gusto magtrabaho nun. PARA SA TING GOBYERNO " ALAGAAN NIYO PA ANG MGA TAMAD BAKA MAS LUMAKI PA SILA"
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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 10:49:10 am »


Kung minsan naiisip ko tuloy na dapat sinusunog nalang lahat ng squaters area..  smoking::

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 11:11:31 am »
yung ibang nag comment, di naintindihan yung binasa, sorry mga brod pero highlight ko lang.


18,000 lang ang ibibigay ng gov't. at walang 1,500 a month.

yung 1,500 a month na sinasabi eh yun din yung 18,000 for 12 months or equivalent to 1,500 a month.
saan ka makakahanap ng bahay na worth 1,500 ang renta kada buwan? pero i know di gusto ng gov't natin na ishoulder lahat ng expenses nila sa pabahay since sila naman ang gagamit, parang pandagdag lang nila dun sa renta yung 1,500 na yun kada buwan, for those squatters, di na masama yun para accept nila. kung meron silang makikitang 3,000 ang monthly rent konti nalang ang dadagdag nila.

I agree dun sa nagsabing yung iba dyan eh pro. squatters dami ganyan, yung bahay nila dyan eh paupahan lang nila.
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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 12:42:34 pm »
Sigurado din na bglang magdadamihan squatter neto. Ung mga nakatira sa iisang bubong, bglang maghihiwalayan yan at magtatayo ng sariling squatter na bahay para may extrang 18k.

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 01:13:06 pm »
e kung yun 18k e ipunin rumenta ng barko dalhin sila sa probinsya nila

Naku di pwede yan.. Paano pa mananalo yung mga tulad ni Erap kung dadalin sila sa ibang lugar? ;D

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 03:56:18 pm »
Ang ganda pala ng estero kapag walang mga squatter sa gilid.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8EccTO3PJos[/youtube]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/video/167268/saksi/mga-pamilya-sa-gilid-ng-water-ways-ng-ncr-inalok-ng-p18-000-para-lumipat

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 04:27:36 pm »
insanity!!! hindi sila nakikinig sa mga squatter... trabaho daw wala sa pinaglilipatan tapos bahay pa rin ang binibigay!!!!

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 05:03:31 pm »
Kasalanan lahat ito ng mga Barangay Officials, sila ang mas nakakakita ng sinasakupan nilang barangays at dapat una pa lang pinagbawalan na sila. Paano kasi ng dahil sa mga illegal settlers na yan dyan sila nakakakuha ng malalaking boto pagdating ng eleksyon. Sila ang mga taong madaling alukin ng pera para sumuporta sa kanila sa eleksyon.

Mai-relocate man sila bumabalik at dumarami, kasi nga hindi sila inaasikaso at pinagbabawalan ng mga nakakasakop sa lugar kung saan sila magsquat.

Dahil sa ginawagan batas na dapat merong relocation area ang isang pamilya pag pinaalis sa isang lugar, nakahanap ng butas ang mga illegal settlers.

====================
SECTION 5. Fines and Penalties. - Any person found guilty of violating any provision
of this Act shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment not more than three (3) years or a fine of
Fifty Thousand Pesos (P5O,OOO.OO), or both, at the discretion of the court.

The Chief Executive and Punong Barangay, who fail to prevent the construction of any
kind of illegal dwelling unit or structure in privately owned residential land within their
jurisdiction shall face suspension for a period of six (6) months and penal sanctions provided
under this Section.
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Wala pa akong nakikitang na suspinde na Barangay Official ng dahil sa mga illegal settlers. :)

Kayo ang humusga.

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 08:01:50 pm »
tayo na nagbabayad ng tax para sa kanila hanggang diyan ba naman tayo pa rin sasagot, bibigyan na ng 18k plus bibigyan pa ng 1500 kada buwan may reklamo pa kasi wala naman daw mauupahan sa halagang 1500 smoking::
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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 08:09:50 pm »
Paano sila makakita ng relocation ng mga yan eh pugad din ng mga kriminal ang squatters' area, yung nilipat ang mga yan sa Calauan laguna , tumaas ang crime rate, anak ng tokwang yan. Kahit bigyan pa nila ng malilipatan, babalik at babalik ng maynila yan.

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 08:13:46 pm »
Kasalanan lahat ito ng mga Barangay Officials, sila ang mas nakakakita ng sinasakupan nilang barangays at dapat una pa lang pinagbawalan na sila. Paano kasi ng dahil sa mga illegal settlers na yan dyan sila nakakakuha ng malalaking boto pagdating ng eleksyon. Sila ang mga taong madaling alukin ng pera para sumuporta sa kanila sa eleksyon.

Mai-relocate man sila bumabalik at dumarami, kasi nga hindi sila inaasikaso at pinagbabawalan ng mga nakakasakop sa lugar kung saan sila magsquat.

Dahil sa ginawagan batas na dapat merong relocation area ang isang pamilya pag pinaalis sa isang lugar, nakahanap ng butas ang mga illegal settlers.

====================
SECTION 5. Fines and Penalties. - Any person found guilty of violating any provision
of this Act shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment not more than three (3) years or a fine of
Fifty Thousand Pesos (P5O,OOO.OO), or both, at the discretion of the court.

The Chief Executive and Punong Barangay, who fail to prevent the construction of any
kind of illegal dwelling unit or structure in privately owned residential land within their
jurisdiction shall face suspension for a period of six (6) months and penal sanctions provided
under this Section.
====================

Wala pa akong nakikitang na suspinde na Barangay Official ng dahil sa mga illegal settlers. :)

Kayo ang humusga.

paano sir kasi magagamit rin kasi nila mag squater na yan pag dating ng election isang kilong bigas noodles sardinas lang ang kapalit ng boto nila ayos na dapat isama sa relocation ang mga ugok na barangay officials na yan

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 09:33:05 pm »
Si Asiong magkakaraoon ng 18k.  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 09:43:58 pm »
paano sir kasi magagamit rin kasi nila mag squater na yan pag dating ng election isang kilong bigas noodles sardinas lang ang kapalit ng boto nila ayos na dapat isama sa relocation ang mga ugok na barangay officials na yan

hindi lang brgy officials na elected, isama na rin mga BOPOLS na brgy treasurer at secretary.  SUS, nagmamarunong kuno sa local government code eh nung naramdaman na may alam yung nakatapat eh umatras din ang buntot - wala lang naglalabas lang ng init ng ulo :)

back to topic - it is ok for me for the government to give them assistance for them to relocate - tulong ika nga.  pero itong Urban Poor Associates (UPA) may gana at lakas pa ng loob na sabihing masyadong maliit yung amount na P18,000.00 para sa mga squatters!  ANAK NG $%^&, eh mabuti nga may ibibigay pa eh.  hindi ba malinaw naman na iligal yung ginagawa nila pagiging squatter? tapos para bang pwe-pwersa pa nilang magbigay ng mas malaking halaga ang gobyerno.  tulong pinansyal ang binibigay ng gobyerno at hindi pabuya sa pagiging squatter nila.  ang hirap kasi eh may mga grupo tulad ng UPA na ginagatungan ang mga maralita para mag-aklas at kumontra sa gobyerno.  papogi lang ng UPA yan at the expense of the squatters.  ang pwede ngang maging siste ng gobyerno diyan is to schedule the massive demolition of shanties and tag the P18,000.00 per family on a "take it or leave it" basis.  kumbaga kung gusto niyo man o hindi, eh matutuloy pa rin ang paggiba ng mga shanties sa estero, etc.  it is not like the squatters have an option.  it is just made to appear like that by groups like UPA.  

dont get me wrong, i am not anti-poor.  my best friend in elementary is a security guard up to now, he didn't take his studies seriously then.  we still get to see each other, etc.  inaanak ko yung mga anak niya and i have gone to their place a couple of dozen times.  i have even shared a meal with them since i am "cowboy".  boodle fight anyone?
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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2013, 05:11:33 am »
18K for rent subsidy or 1500/month

nag-research ba sila

kaya nga  squatter sila e ayaw nilang mag-rent

kaysa bigyan ng bigyan ng subsidiya at balik at babalik din ang mga yan at perwisyo pa sila

gumawa na alng programa ang gobyerno ng work for food di pangtawid pamilya na 1200/month or subsidiya

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insanity!!! hindi sila nakikinig sa mga squatter... trabaho daw wala sa pinaglilipatan tapos bahay pa rin ang binibigay -

mahirap magbigay ng trabaho sa level of education nila not that discriminatory or racist even sa mga may diploma hirap na hirap na silang makakuha ng decent job


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e kung yun 18k e ipunin rumenta ng barko dalhin sila sa probinsya nila yun natirang pera magtayo ng negosyo dun di yun ganyan pasakit na nga sila sa bansa pasakit din sa mga tax payer e kung may 18k tapos 1.5k monthly ang sarap nun wala ng gusto magtrabaho nun. PARA SA TING GOBYERNO " ALAGAAN NIYO PA ANG MGA TAMAD BAKA MAS LUMAKI PA SILA"

ha ha ha kailngan kase nila sa election e

but I disagree about using money to establish a business kase konti lang sa kanila ang financial illiterate and sa province di ganun kablis ang pasok ng pera unlike sa Metro na pitik lang e pera na kase lahat ng kilos mo pera at marami kang buyer  ultimo tubig binibili konting panahon pati hangin for sale sa metro

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2013, 05:39:42 am »
Si Asiong magkakaraoon ng 18k.  ;D

 ::lmao inggit ka lang haha

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2013, 06:27:55 am »
mga skwater na yan parang mga pusa kahit saan mo dalin yan babalik at babalik pa din yang mga yan... dapat jan sinusunog lahat ng bahay! gamitan ng kamay na bagal eh .. mga lgu din ang dahilan kung bakit di mapaalis ang skwater kasi may pakinabang sa BOTO!

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Re: Gov’t offers P18K per estero family
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 04:10:20 am »
wala pa dyan sakla

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