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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2010, 12:05:38 am »
eh under naman pala china sa northkorea eh. wew
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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2010, 01:08:45 am »
china ayaw sa gyera

USA gusto gyera may pera sa gyera masam pa dyan baka sila pa magsulsul sa NOKOR para gyerahin ang SOCOR remember yung nangyari sa Georgia versus S.Occetia 



Cost of war in iraq and afghanistan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1415708320100114

since 2001 both wars costs the US 1 trillion USD.This year Obama wants 33 billion more .So kung my pera sa gera like you said kindly post your source.


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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2010, 06:31:29 pm »
i don't think china will think about going to war in the future. i believe matalino sila. naayos nila economy nila. hindi nila sasayangin ang pagod nila sa isang nokor para lang makipagwar sa us.

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2010, 10:31:05 pm »
bkit nakaexperience knb ng world war?ako di pa kaya gusto ko makaexperience ng ganun..sayang dn ung natutunan natin sa ROTC kung di magamit. :P

naniniwala na ko ngayon na may taong bobo..  ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao
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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #79 on: November 27, 2010, 12:35:27 am »
Quote
Cost of war in iraq and afghanistan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1415708320100114

since 2001 both wars costs the US 1 trillion USD.This year Obama wants 33 billion more .So kung my pera sa gera like you said kindly post your source.


ha ha ha

1. Iraq was the second largest oil producer sa buong mundo
2. wala naman napakitang weapon of mass destruction so would they attacked Iraq from the first place
yung interview ng isang journalist after the war what would you do tinanong nya sa G.I "I would invest my money to the oil of Iraq"
3. OIl is the prime commodities sa buong mundo

next

USA trained some georgian soldiers sympre bibili sila ng gamit sa US laban sa S.0ccetia

at kahit kaylan di malulugi ang US matindi ang maketing planner nila

sample

nangutang ka sa kaibigan mo sasabihin nya sayo wala akong pera dahil blah blah blah
pero may tv sya may pang goodtime may pambili ng pagkain and yet wala syang pera


sa reality having a source will lead you away from the actual scenario dahil kung ano ang nakasulat di mo naman kung totoo o hindi

sabihin ni obama nalulugi sila may purpose yun

as  I said before profitable ang gyera 

heto pa

nagpagawa ako ng apartment
pero nalugi ako ng 1 M

nagpagawa ako ng mall
sasabihin agad nalugi ako ng 20M

nakipaggyera ako
sasabihin nalugi ako ng 1 trillion

sa tingin mo bakit yun ang sasabihin nila

initially may pera ng mga yan at hindi nila sasabihin in the end na kumikita sila







 

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #80 on: November 27, 2010, 08:51:16 pm »
Soooo Idiot,where s your source?San na?

Lets see some numbers here. smoking::

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #81 on: November 28, 2010, 01:52:31 am »
who cares about source

kahit magbigay ako ng source di ka naman maniniwala

history na tinuturo totoo ba ito or hindi??
isang magandang source of nationalism pero halos nakasulat dito altered or kulang

so having source will confused you

nalulugi sila yan ang sabi nila dahil yan ang gusto nilang ipaalam

ang motive di naman sinusulat yan may reason yan bakit inatake nila Iraq

kung paniwala mo nalulugi sila opinion mo yan
paniniwala ko kumikita sila at alam ko kung paano kumikita

kung source hinahanap punta ka pentagon nundun lahat

sa pnahon natin ngayon
may source ka sasabihin altered di totoo
kapag wala kang source tsismis lang di paden totoo so nasa yo yan

hahhaha

sample na lang

Atheist - kahit gaano mo explain sa kanila na totoo bible di sila maniniwala pero naniniwala sila sa alien kahit walang proven fact na may alien

dahil di mo na gets sinabi ko no unang post

nagpagawa ako ng apartment
lugi agad ako

nagpagawa ako ng mall
lugi agad ako

noted fact na yan na lugi ka

naki gyera ako lugi agad ako

you don't need a source all you need is motive

bahala ka kung ayaw mong maniwala basta ako naniniwala ako na kumikita sila kung explain kupa sayo e di tumalino ka maganda na akong na lang matalino ang tagal pag-aralan motive ng mga kano tapos bibigay ko lang sayo never

okay tawagin mo akong Idiot, tsismoso kung ano pa heheheheh pero kung tanga ka di mo maintindihan ang motive nila

as for Nokor at Socor
bahala kayong makigyera may pera dyan
1. UN AID
2. EU AID
3. lahat ng AID
4. Donations ng mga korean sa ibang mga bansa


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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #82 on: November 28, 2010, 03:37:11 am »
The US has over $400B Debt in China ( ang laki nyan )

US allies with South Korea
China Allies with North Korea

US may think twice about extending his millitary support. and they haven't recovered economically, so funding another war to help its allies is not a good way to start recovering..

Also Like the previous post, economically SoKor will suffer more if this war continues.


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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #83 on: November 28, 2010, 05:59:07 am »
Nag papapansin lang ang NoKor kaya walang magyayaring gyera dyan.. Why? Simple lang. Nokor cant win a war against South Korea. Kim Jong Il may be crazy but I think he knows that one shouldn't fight battles he knows he cannot win. It doesn't matter if they have nukes. A mere handful of them is totally worthless, especially if your enemy is allied with a country who have thousands.

If China and US will get involve, then less likely that there will ever be full scale war. Two powerful nation would simply avoid fighting each other. Remember the cold war? There were no direct military confrontation between US and Soviet forces..

Also, US have no intention of going to another Korean war. Ano ba mapapala nila sa Korea? Hindi ba kayo nagtataka? When Iraq was said to be developing WMD's US hit Iraq. When Nokor tested a nuke, US did nothing.. Why? Cause they wont gain anything by fighting Nokor. Others may say na nalugi ang US sa iraq but that's not how I see it. They may have lost trillions now, but with Iraq's huge oil reserve in their hand, they'll get it back in the future one way or another.

And finally, unless invaded, South Korea wont go to war either. So a second Korean war is unlikely for now..

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #84 on: November 28, 2010, 06:58:13 am »
who cares about source

kahit magbigay ako ng source di ka naman maniniwala

At ang dapat paniniwalaan ko ay yung mga sabi sabi ?

history na tinuturo totoo ba ito or hindi??
isang magandang source of nationalism pero halos nakasulat dito altered or kulang

source of nationalism? hmnnnn...
so having source will confused you

so pano mo malalaman ang mga bagay bagay?dahil sabi ng iyong kapitbahay?ni lolo?ng mga nakausap mo?

nalulugi sila yan ang sabi nila dahil yan ang gusto nilang ipaalam

so paano mo nalaman yun?

ang motive di naman sinusulat yan may reason yan bakit inatake nila Iraq

wmd diba?

kung paniwala mo nalulugi sila opinion mo yan
paniniwala ko kumikita sila at alam ko kung paano kumikita

oh ok

kung source hinahanap punta ka pentagon nundun lahat

google s better,no clearance needed.

sa pnahon natin ngayon
may source ka sasabihin altered di totoo

kasi mas mahirap paniwalaan ang tsismis.
kapag wala kang source tsismis lang di paden totoo so nasa yo yan

so kapag wala ako source ay totoo ang sinasabi without backing up my claims?

hahhaha

 laffman::

sample na lang

Atheist - kahit gaano mo explain sa kanila na totoo bible di sila maniniwala pero naniniwala sila sa alien kahit walang proven fact na may alien

medyo atheist ako pero i dont believe in aliens

dahil di mo na gets sinabi ko no unang post

nagpagawa ako ng apartment
lugi agad ako

nagpagawa ako ng mall
lugi agad ako

hindi ka lugi,bcoz you just made an INVESTMENT.Hindi ka nalugi dahil nasa iyo pa rin yung property.

noted fact na yan na lugi ka

Hindi ka nga lugi eh.Lugi ka kung walang tenant or walang pumasok sa mall mo.Ganun din sa sari sari na store mo,lugi lang kapag walang benta.

naki gyera ako lugi agad ako

Namatayan ka ng mga sundalo kaya lugi ka nga.Kumita ba?source nga. laffman::

you don't need a source all you need is motive

motive?haka haka ?tsimis?sabi ni lolo? analysis lang yan,it can go both ways unless you have proof,source.

bahala ka kung ayaw mong maniwala basta ako naniniwala ako na kumikita sila kung explain kupa sayo e di tumalino ka maganda na akong na lang matalino ang tagal pag-aralan motive ng mga kano tapos bibigay ko lang sayo never

base lang sa tsika ang kaalaman mo kaya im not impressed. ;D

okay tawagin mo akong Idiot, tsismoso kung ano pa heheheheh pero kung tanga ka di mo maintindihan ang motive nila

pero yung ang name mo diba? ???forgot mo na?

as for Nokor at Socor
bahala kayong makigyera may pera dyan
1. UN AID
2. EU AID
3. lahat ng AID
4. Donations ng mga korean sa ibang mga bansa

so anong country ang pinakamalaking donor sa UN?

pssstt.........................clue oh.

http://www.america.gov/st/develop-english/2007/May/20070524165115zjsredna0.2997553.html
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html



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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #85 on: November 28, 2010, 07:35:21 am »
nakikipagyera ang u.s. dahil sa pera...

sila rin ang pakana sa 911 sa world trade center...

para may rason sila atakihin ang afganistan at nagkaroon ng koneksyon daw ang iraq kay bin laden...

sa huli... iraq pala ang target nila... ang gasolina sa iraq... yun ang mission nila...

ang mga rebelde o terorista kuno dito sa pilipinas ay suportado rin ng mga amerikano...

mga sundalo natin dito ay ayaw ng digmaan... gusto na nilang mahinto ang digmaan... kaso ang mga general natin dito ay trained ng mga sundalo...

kaya pera pera din ang usapan sa huli... mga sundalo natin ang kawawa..

ganyan din ang nangyayari sa nokor at sokor.. pera pera din yan!

mananamlay ang ekonomiya ng u.s. kung walang digmaan!


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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #86 on: November 28, 2010, 08:06:22 am »
mananamlay ang ekonomiya ng u.s. kung walang digmaan!

Tama dahil ang primary source ng US economy is Military
aza

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #87 on: November 28, 2010, 09:18:45 am »
Nag papapansin lang ang NoKor kaya walang magyayaring gyera dyan.. Why? Simple lang. Nokor cant win a war against South Korea. Kim Jong Il may be crazy but I think he knows that one shouldn't fight battles he knows he cannot win. It doesn't matter if they have nukes. A mere handful of them is totally worthless, especially if your enemy is allied with a country who have thousands.

If China and US will get involve, then less likely that there will ever be full scale war. Two powerful nation would simply avoid fighting each other. Remember the cold war? There were no direct military confrontation between US and Soviet forces..

Also, US have no intention of going to another Korean war. Ano ba mapapala nila sa Korea? Hindi ba kayo nagtataka? When Iraq was said to be developing WMD's US hit Iraq. When Nokor tested a nuke, US did nothing.. Why? Cause they wont gain anything by fighting Nokor. Others may say na nalugi ang US sa iraq but that's not how I see it. They may have lost trillions now, but with Iraq's huge oil reserve in their hand, they'll get it back in the future one way or another.

And finally, unless invaded, South Korea wont go to war either. So a second Korean war is unlikely for now..


quote ko lang sir..   they wont attack Nokor so sudden because of China being there allies for 4 decades now i believed. .  China alone is the only reason why US is not being on the offensive much like they did on Iraq.

China-North Korea alliance remains formally in effect, and Beijing continues to provide vital supplies of food and fuel to the brutal and repressive Pyongyang regime.

D b kau nagtataka for a country like NoKor for having very low economy they still managed to build up nuclear weapons. unlike Iraq which has oil. NoKor has nothing and yet they have nukes...

Now for possible intervention of China and US on this war.. China is a very clever country they wont engage into war with US.  US in Debt with China, and China can put pressure on US using  "Financial Warfare" much like US did to Great Britain and France on war on Egypt's Suez Canal. with this option China has more cards to play and make US rethink about engaging in war with NoKor.

But then again maybe Beijing's ties to Pyongyang have weakened considerably over time, and China now has much better and stronger relations with the free market democracy of South Korea. 

There are a whole lot of possibilities.  But lets hope this war wont happen. because it will affect the Asian regions considerably.



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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #88 on: November 28, 2010, 09:19:18 am »
Mukhang umakyat na sa ulo nila yung kaka-Starcraft a.

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #89 on: November 28, 2010, 10:08:28 am »
Seriously, some people believe the the US goes to war for the sake of "Freedom", "Peace" and "Justice"?  laffman:: laffman::

@sino_one

US invaded Iraq because they were said to be developing WMD's. Years after the invasion and still no proof were found. Whats the invasion for then? The US have long known that the north koreans are developing nukes, they've already tested a nuke.. What did Uncle Sam do? NOTHING!! Why? Other nations such as Pakistan and Israel had developed nukes. If I'm not mistaken, it was a Pakistani who made available the technology to build a nuke to NoKor, yet the US didn't touch them. Why?

Did they invade Iraq because Saddam was a dictator and his regime violates human rights? Myanmar has the same kind of leaders and government, why wont the US liberate the Burmese people?

What made Iraq so special? I bet you know.

Sabi mo nga hindi ka lugi since you made an INVESTMENT.. Well the US INVESTED on Iraq.


@Mikester

As I've said, If US and China will be involved (which is certain) then the likelihood of a war is small. You're right that NoKor's alliance with China may have served as a deterrent, after all, it was China who saved the north during the korean war. But if the US really wanted too, then the Korean Peninsula would have already been unified. It is only in the recent decade that China's military might have become significant but still nowhere near the power of the US. China wouldn't want to fight a full scale war against the US. They fought during the Korean War only because the USSR backs them up. They know that the US wont attack China fearing that the Soviet might join the war and invade Europe then start world war 3. Since the collapse of the USSR the US have reigned supreme.   

North Korea on its own wont invade the South, they cant win. China would only intervene militarily if the North was invaded, and The US and South Korea have no Intention of starting a war by attacking the north.

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #90 on: November 28, 2010, 10:48:10 am »
giyera na ang norkor at sokor, giyera pa dito sa espiya!

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« Reply #91 on: November 28, 2010, 01:48:58 pm »
wow....sana mgka WW3 nah... :applause

careful what you wish for. N.Korea have nukes.  ::secret

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #92 on: November 28, 2010, 02:28:30 pm »
Mukhang umakyat na sa ulo nila yung kaka-Starcraft a.

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #93 on: November 28, 2010, 07:46:42 pm »
@ tigerwing

So walang nakitang WMD,hindi ba maging believable ang istorya ng evil american empire kung mag plant nalang sila sa iraq ng wmd?Hindi ba mas magiging justified ang iraq invasion?bakit hindi nila ginawa yun?

totoo na hindi lahat ng giyera ay para sa kalayaan.What about previous world wars?Ang iraq may oil,ang afghanistan?
yugoslavia?haiti at atbp. ano nakuha sa kanila ng US.

Nokor and nukes? havent you heard of the sanctions imposed ,embargoes against the north?or you prefer the US
invade that country?Ever heard of the UN security council?even if US wants to invade or attack a country ay hindi basta
basta pupwede.

Pakistan and Israel?You did not know why?

If you think that iraq is a good investment,may idea ka ba kung magkano na kinita ng US sa iraq?remember hindi pa tapos ang laban dun .Nasa trillions na ang gastos and estimated DAILY cost of hundreds of millions?hindi pa kasama yung human lives dun.Siyempre may kikitang oil companies pero kung susumahin mo ang lahat iraq is not a good investment.

Kaya i ask you again .Bakit hindi nalang lagyan ng wmd ang iraq para ma justify ang kanilang invasion?


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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #94 on: November 28, 2010, 10:21:18 pm »
@ tigerwing

So walang nakitang WMD,hindi ba maging believable ang istorya ng evil american empire kung mag plant nalang sila sa iraq ng wmd?Hindi ba mas magiging justified ang iraq invasion?bakit hindi nila ginawa yun?

totoo na hindi lahat ng giyera ay para sa kalayaan.What about previous world wars?Ang iraq may oil,ang afghanistan?
yugoslavia?haiti at atbp. ano nakuha sa kanila ng US.

Nokor and nukes? havent you heard of the sanctions imposed ,embargoes against the north?or you prefer the US
invade that country?Ever heard of the UN security council?even if US wants to invade or attack a country ay hindi basta
basta pupwede.

Pakistan and Israel?You did not know why?

If you think that iraq is a good investment,may idea ka ba kung magkano na kinita ng US sa iraq?remember hindi pa tapos ang laban dun .Nasa trillions na ang gastos and estimated DAILY cost of hundreds of millions?hindi pa kasama yung human lives dun.Siyempre may kikitang oil companies pero kung susumahin mo ang lahat iraq is not a good investment.

Kaya i ask you again .Bakit hindi nalang lagyan ng wmd ang iraq para ma justify ang kanilang invasion?



Do you really understand what youre saying? Plant WMD's in Iraq? They would have to explain how Iraq got such things then! and if they cant? That's more trouble for the US. Konting common sense lang naman. WMDs dont grow on trees. Really where's the proof that Iraq is even capable of producing WMD's?

About yugoslavia, there's an on going conflict in Kosovo at the time. Coalition forces merely stepped-in. They have reasons to. Same as in Haiti.  About Afghanistan,  in the first afghan war US supported the Afghans against the Soviets, during the recent war, they invaded to look for Bin Laden. Both are valid reasons. Now lets go back to Iraq, why did the US invaded Iraq again?

Sanctions for Nokor? They tested a nuke and all the US can do is place sanctions? When you compare Iraq to N. Korea, North korea is a much larger threat, they have a confirmed nuclear program and is actually at a state of war with the south. Again why invade Iraq over unconfirmed reports of WMDs and not N.Korea? Why didnt the US just place more sanction in Iraq like what they did to N.Korea?

Do you think that the UN supported the invasion of Iraq?

**On September 16, 2004, Kofi Annan, the Secretary General of the United Nations, said of the invasion, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the Charter point of view, it was illegal."** ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao


Do you even know how much Iraq's oil reserve is? And do the US invest just to gain more money? Again, konting common sense lang. If your government can control the country with the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world what would it give you? Money is just one part of the equation. smoking::

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #95 on: November 28, 2010, 11:49:26 pm »
Do you really understand what youre saying? Plant WMD's in Iraq? They would have to explain how Iraq got such things then! and if they cant? That's more trouble for the US. Konting common sense lang naman. WMDs dont grow on trees. Really where's the proof that Iraq is even capable of producing WMD's?

That s the reason they went there right?unconfirmed ba yun ng invade nila yung iraq?base ba yun sa unconfirmed reports?Hindi ba kaya ng US na gumawa ng ilang WMD para ma justify ang investment nila? :okung kikita sila ng bilyones kamo gasino na yung ilang wmd? Hindi ba kaya gawin ng US yan covertly?you think hindi gumagawa ang us ng ganyan?

About yugoslavia, there's an on going conflict in Kosovo at the time. Coalition forces merely stepped-in. They have reasons to. Same as in Haiti.  About Afghanistan,  in the first afghan war US supported the Afghans against the Soviets, during the recent war, they invaded to look for Bin Laden. Both are valid reasons. Now lets go back to Iraq, why did the US invaded Iraq again?

may freedom,liberty yata dyan ah,akala ko ba wala?kumita ba ang coalition forces sa kosovo war?sa haiti?may oil ba?at may valid reasons pa. :applause Walang pera?Akala ko wala sa US ang mga ganyang misyon?



Sanctions for Nokor? They tested a nuke and all the US can do is place sanctions? When you compare Iraq to N. Korea, North korea is a much larger threat, they have a confirmed nuclear program and is actually at a state of war with the south. Again why invade Iraq over unconfirmed reports of WMDs and not N.Korea? Why didnt the US just place more sanction in Iraq like what they did to N.Korea?

Papayag ba ang security council kung mag invade ang US sa nokor noon?remember both china and russia have permanent seats dun sa council.Papayag kaya?

Do you think that the UN supported the invasion of Iraq?

Si annan hindi sumuporta pero ang sec council ay pumayag.So mas may say sa ganyang mga sitwasyon?si annan ba o sec council?

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0916-01.htm
http://www.fact-index.com/t/th/the_un_security_council_and_the_iraq_war.html
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2002/09/un-authorization-for-war-with-iraq-is-unnecessary

sanctions

http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/iraqsancthist.html

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Do you even know how much Iraq's oil reserve is? And do the US invest just to gain more money? Again, konting common sense lang. If your government can control the country with the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world what would it give you? Money is just one part of the equation. smoking::

Justified siya kung may nakitang wmd diba ::lmao  Sayang hindi kayang gumawa ng US ng wmd  laffman::

bakit nga pala walang sanction ang us sa pakistan at israel?

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #96 on: November 29, 2010, 05:50:01 am »
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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #97 on: November 29, 2010, 07:10:33 am »
@ Sino_one

Hindi ko alam kung matatawa ako sa iniisip mo oh maiinis. Sa totoo lang thinking of planting WMDs to Iraq to justify the invasion is stupid!!

Mag isip isip ka naman iho. Hindi madaling gumawa ng WMD!!! Oo kaya ng US, ang tanong kaya ba ng Iraq? like I said, WMDs dont grow on trees. Whether it be Nuclear, Chemical, or Biological, all require large specialized facilities, complex technical "know-hows" and a huge budget to develop. Kung Hindi kaya ng Iraq at biglang nag karoon ng WMD dun then ang next question ay san yun nang galing at pano yun nakuha ng Iraq. Iilang bansa lang sa mundo ang may kakayahang gumawa ng WMD so sinong source ang ituturo ng US? syempre hindi pwede na mga ka alyado nila, so sino? China? Russia? How do you think these countries will react if accused of "proliferation of weapons of mass destruction"? At syempre lalabas at lalabas ang issue na planted yun ng US mismo. DUUHH!!! Its far easier to be wrong than fabricate another lie that can compromise relations with other key countries. Again, konting common sense naman. Hindi yan paniwalang paniwala ka sa mga propaganda ng US.

You totally miss the point about the other conflicts. The others are legit. They have a clear and valid reason to be involved and the US did not start those conflicts, they merely stepped-in for a cause.

What about Iraq? They invaded a sovereign country because of imaginary WMDs  smoking:: smoking::

And the security council? are you sure that the UNSC supports it? read your sources again pls.

France: "We think that military intervention would be the worst possible solution,"
Germany: German chancellor Gerhard Schr�der at a meeting with French president Jacques Chirac said that he and Mr. Chirac would do all they could to avert war
Russia: "Russia deems that there is no evidence that would justify a war in Iraq."
China: China supports continued weapons inspections... "the Chinese position was "extremely close" to France's."
Angola supports continued inspections, but has not yet taken a stand on disarmament by military action. 
Cameroon has encouraged the continued inspections, but has not taken a firm stand on whether or not the country would support a US led strike to liberate Iraq.
Chile has indicated that it would like inspections to continue, but has not taken a position on the use of military force to disarm Iraq.
Guinea has supported further inspections, but has not taken a position on the use of military force to disarm Iraq. 
Pakistan supports continued inspections.
Syria seems to feel that Iraq is cooperating and meeting its obligations under UN resolutions. Syria would like to see UN sanctions on Iraq lifted.

"many of the governments that have aligned themselves with the US, despite strong opposition among their constituencies, have done so because of their own economic ties to the United States. The United States has used strong pressure and threats against other nations to attempt to coerce nations on the Security Council to support them."

"Although President Bush described nations supporting him as the "coalition of the willing", the report concludes that it is more accurately described as a "coalition of the coerced." According to the report, most nations supporting Bush "were recruited through coercion, bullying, and bribery."

 :applause :applause :applause :applause :applause

Yeah. US places sanctions to other countries who develop WMDs but applied military actions TO AND ONLY TO IRAQ. Despite the fact that there is no concrete proof that Iraq is indeed capable of developing WMDs while others have shown the fruits of their respective programs.

Now please answer my question. Why was the US so eager to invade Iraq?

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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2010, 02:39:12 pm »
Inside North Korea, gusto ipakita ng anak na sya ang dapat kapalit ng ama.  Para to convince detractors na matapang sya at para magpasikat sa ama, he may have engineered the shelling which is just muscle flexing.  The son may be reckless but it may have convinced those hardliners that he may have the guts to take on the US.  At the same time, the incident gives them an alibi to bargain for more aid.  So tipong "umayos ka nga" at bigyan pa kita ng maraming aid.

On the other hand, pwede rin na top-secret US infiltrators did encouraged the shelling to provoke tension in the area. If you will go to war, you will not just shell an island na wala naman masyado marami tao.  Instead, you will use those shells to target highly populated areas or high military value targets.  Hence, the whole thing is already suspect.  It can be a US style to pressure the South Korean leadership to tow the US line - dapat bumili kayo ng US military products at hire nyo kami dahil kami lang pwede mag protek sa inyo.  When they start buying US military hardware, that creates jobs and more investments in the US defense industry.  Japan becomes also a collateral buyer of military hardware.

For China, they can also encourage North Korea to buy more Chinese armaments and making the former pay with coal, iron ore and rare earth metals.



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Re: NORTH KOREA artillery fire HITS SOUTH KOREA
« Reply #99 on: November 29, 2010, 04:30:29 pm »
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sir pakistan po ba ang kaaway ng israel o palestine???ang alam ko po kasi palestine ei...