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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2011, 09:33:47 am »
ganda nito.... tama talaga to...


walang magandang resulta ang demokrasya ng edsa!


ang edsa ay para sa mga gahamang negosyante at kawatan ng bayan!

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2011, 01:41:40 pm »
nice presentation. nice plot/story. but for me it seems like another conspiracy theory and/or a propaganda. i dunno who to believe nowadays. hard to know the REAL facts. in the end, we are all still suffering and not progressing because of these kinds of mentality, whatever it is. gkhan also has nice inputs regarding this but i'd rather still look for facts than just believe here-says about this. nice topic though.

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2011, 02:15:42 pm »
an mga nakalaman na impormasyon duon ay kaparehas na kaparehas ng mga tinuro sa min ng aming history teacher nuong high school(1996)..nkakalungkot lang na hangang ngaun nabibilog ng mga lopez at aquino ang ulo ng mraming pilipino..


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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2011, 03:49:21 pm »
propaganda. nasadlak sa hirap ang pinas during 2nd regime of marcos. check the data. sadsad na sadsad especially during the 70s. nacorrupt na kasi ang pera ng taumbayan.  harapang nakawan at ito ay napatunayan na. ano pa ba hahanapin ebidensya. nagsalita na ang mga ebidensya.  Oo, mahirap pa rin tayo pero kung nagpatuloy pa, mas lalo tayong maghihirap.




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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2011, 07:11:14 pm »
it maybe true na si cory and a few handful of friends knew about Ninoy's return. pero di naman ganoon kahirap malaman ang kanyang pagbabalik. all you need to do is send a spy to watch him 24/7. once he boards a plane, you don't need a cellphone to inform he's coming back to the philippines. meron na tayong overseas call noon, all you have to do is pick up a telephone. and ilang hours ang flight pabalik sa Pilipinas...

and kung papanoorin nyo yung iba pa nyang video, iisa ang laman ng mensahe. change the constituion, which is the propaganda pushed by the arroyo's. sinisisi nya ang gobyerno, at gustong palitan ang konstitusyon. ang tanong ko sa inyo, sino ba ang magpapalit ng konstitusyon? di ba sila ring mga nakaupo sa gobyerno na sinisisi nyang may kasalanan?

it maybe true na kasalanan ng gobyerno, pero sino ba ang nagluklok sa mga opisyales natin doon? kung gusto natin ng pagbabago, sa sarili natin mismo dapat mag-umpisa

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2011, 09:23:20 pm »
sabi nga ni plato "democracy is for idiots"
lahat na mn po nga naging leader natin ay corrupt, parang given na yan. ang isipin nalang natin are the benefits that we can get from those so called projects, which i believe most of PM's projects have good benefits to us Filipinos.

sabi nga ng isang pari, when charity begins at home, corruption begins at home.
i've been in politics and i can really say how dirty it is. lahat ng sulok nito. during my term kahit maliit lang ang position ko, i tried my best to play it nice and clean but kung ang nasa taas mo ay marumi, wala ka pa ring magagawa..

minsan naisip ko na ang solution para sa pilipinas ay paalisin lahat nag mga tao ages 18 and up para magsimula na tayo ng bago.. or better yet choose 3 presidents that will serve 6 yrs per term, in that case may 18 years sila to work on their platform of government. hehehehe


gusto ko kasi talagang dumaan ang pinas ng isang malaking overhaul.

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2011, 09:30:33 pm »
and i believe po mga sir na these kind of videos will somehow enlighten us that what we see in the tv or hear in the radio are all not true..thats why i share this video po :)

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2011, 12:01:19 pm »
marcos marcos pa rin!

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2011, 07:41:06 pm »
and i believe po mga sir na these kind of videos will somehow enlighten us that what we see in the tv or hear in the radio are all not true..thats why i share this video po :)
finger4u Your'e post brought a big flashback of what happen 20 years ago. Marcos did great in public service in constructing different structures, buildings departments that the filipino people benefits even as of now. I believed filipinos need a president like Marcos, love his work...but not the corruption.

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2011, 11:28:43 pm »
An lalim ng conspiracy na to hahaha

who is marcos?
the tenth President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. - dito pa lang kikilabutan ka na.

link - http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/marcos.html

Ferdinand Marcos

Country: Philippines.

Kill tally: No reliable figures but the Philippines democracy and economy ruined and possibly thousands killed.

Background: Spain colonises the Philippine archipelago during the 16th Century, naming the islands after King Philip II and establishing Manila (on the northern island of Luzon) as the capital in 1571. The indigenous population is converted to Roman Catholicism, although Muslim Filipinos in the south and upland tribes in the north resist any challenge to their traditional religious beliefs.

When the United States takes control of the archipelago following the 1898 Spanish-American War independence activists wage a guerrilla war against the new colonialists. The rebels are brought under control and political reforms introduced as the country prepares for independence.

The self-governing Commonwealth of the Philippines is established in 1935. Full independence is scheduled for introduction after a further 10 years, but the timetable is interrupted by the Japanese occupation of the country during the Second World War. Independence is finally achieved on 4 July 1946, though as the date would imply, the US retains significant influence.

Mini biography: Born on 11 September 1917 in Sarrat in the llocos Norte Province at the northwestern tip of Luzon. Both his parents are teachers. After completing his schooling, Marcos enrols to study law at the University of the Philippines.

1939 - In April Marcos is arrested in connection with the 1933 murder of a political rival of his father and has to complete his law degree while in custody. He stands trial in September and is and found guilty.

1940 - Marcos appeals his conviction for murder, representing himself before the Philippine Supreme Court. The appeal is upheld and the conviction overturned. Marcos then becomes a trial lawyer in Manilla.

1941-45 - During the Second World War, Marcos serves as an officer in the Philippine armed forces. After the war he claims to have led a guerrilla unit, the Maharlikas, against the Japanese. It is later revealed that he played little or no part in anti-Japanese activities during the war.

1946 - Marcos returns to Manila to resume his law practice, becoming an assistant to the Philippines president in 1947.

1949 - Standing as a Liberal Party candidate, Marcos is elected as a representative for his home province to the Philippine Parliament, becoming the youngest member ever to join the House. He successfully stands for reelection in 1953. It is reported that he uses his political influence for personal enrichment and quickly becomes a multimillionaire.

1954 - Marcos marries Imelda Romualdez on 1 May.

1957 - He is again reelected to the House of Representatives. In 1959 he shifts from the lower house to the Senate, topping the election and becoming the opposition leader in parliament.

1961 - Marcos drops plans to stand as the Liberal Party candidate for the presidency on the understanding that his nomination will be supported in 1965. In the meantime he is made head of the Liberal Party. In 1963 he is elected Senate president.

1964 - When the Liberals refuse to honour the 1961 agreement, Marcos switches his allegiance to the Nationalista Party. In November he is nominated as the party's candidate for the presidential election of the following year.

1965 - Marcos is elected president in November, promising improved living conditions for average Filipinos and land reform. While the first is achieved through an ambitious program of public works, the latter is never seriously tackled. He helps found the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), established in 1967.

1969 - Marcos wins a second four-year term as president. He is the first president to be reelected in the short history of the Philippine democracy. However, growth slows and quality of life begins to deteriorate. Violence and crime begin to become everyday occurrences. The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) starts to make inroads in the provinces, with its military wing, the New People's Army (NPA) spreading across the archipelago.

On the southern island of Mindanao, Muslim secessionists organise under the banner of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF). In August Marcos launches major military campaigns against the NPA and MNLF.

1970 - Social unrest continues to build. Student demonstrators attempt to storm the Malacanang Palace, the presidential mansion, on 30 January. Manila and other large cities are rocked by random bombings. Marcos blames leftists and suspends habeas corpus in August 1971, a prelude to martial law.

1971 - At a constitutional convention opposition delegates introduce a provision to prevent Marcos from remaining as head of state or government once his second term as president has expired. Marcos succeeds in having the ban overturned the following year.

1972 - Using the excuse of an alleged assassination attempt against Defence Minister Juan Ponce Enrile, Marcos declares martial law on 21 September, promising to eliminate poverty and injustice and create a "new society." It is later revealed that the assassination attempt had been staged by the military.

Opposition figures (including Benigno 'Ninoy' Aquino), journalists, student and labour activists and criminals are arrested and detained at military compounds run by the army and the police. Newspapers are closed and the mass media tightly controlled. Demonstrations, strikes and boycotts are outlawed. Marcos assumes absolute legislative power. The constitution, which permits presidents only two terms in office, is suspended.

1973 - A new constitution allowing Marcos to stay in office indefinitely and to rule by decree is introduced. The result is confirmed by a fraudulent referendum enabling him to continue as president until the end of martial law and to arbitrarily appoint all government officials, including members of the judiciary. Imelda Marcos is made governor of Manila and minister of human settlements and ecology.

Martial law initially brings stability and an economic turnaround but with the costs of reduced social freedoms and increasing corruption. Limited land reforms are introduced but prove ineffective. Manufacturing and business enterprises are nationalised or handed to Marcos's cronies or relatives. Profits are siphoned off for personal enrichment and mismanagement is rife.

The armed forces are politicised. Officers from Marcos's home province are promoted to high rank. A childhood friend of Marcos becomes chief-of-staff of the armed forces and head of the internal security network. Officers are appointed to manage several corporations and the military is ordered to take control of all public utilities and the media. The size of the army is also increased, with numbers swelling from about 58,000 in 1971 to 142,000 in 1983.

The military has virtually unlimited powers to search, arrest and detain civilians without reason and without recourse to legal representation. Military tribunals are set up throughout the country to try and sentence detainees. The civilian courts are striped of their power and autonomy, and the Philippine police force is placed under military control. It is estimated that more than 60,000 people are arrested between 1972 and 1977.

Politically prisoners are routinely tortured by the military. "Disappearances" and murders of suspected political activists are common, with over 500 cases being recorded for the period 1975-80. Meanwhile, inflation and unemployment rise while already low living standards drop.

The brutality of the regime and the stagnating economy causes may Filipinos to turn to the communists for protection and support.

1976 - The constitution is amended further to allow Marcos to continue to rule by degree even after the lifting of martial law.

1977 - Benigno Aquino, leader of the Philippines democratic opposition, is tried by a military court, found guilty of subversion and sentenced to death. The sentence, however, is never applied.

1980 - Aquino, who is ill, is released in May to receive medical treatment in the US. He will remain in the US, becoming a leader of the opposition in exile.

1981 - Marcos proclaims the end of martial law on 17 January. He wins an overwhelming majority in a presidential election held in June, but the vote is rigged and is boycotted by the main opposition groups.

1983 - After three years in exile, Aquino decides to return to the Philippines and help end the Marcos regime. However, minutes after his arrival at Manilla airport on 21 August he is shot in the head and killed. The lone assassin is shot on the spot.

Marcos claims the assassin is a communist, but a subsequent government commission of inquiry finds that the military had conspired in Aquino's death. However, the finding is rejected and those accused of the conspiracy are allowed to go free.

Aquino's funeral procession draws hundreds of thousands of mourners. It is the largest demonstration in the history of the Philippines and marks the beginning of the 'People's Power' movement led by Aquino's widow, Corazon Cojuangco Aquino.

Meanwhile, the domestic economy grinds to a halt and then begins to contract. But while the salaries of Filipinos are, in real terms, half as much as they were in 1956, the share of the national income held by the wealthiest 10th of the country has increased from 27% to 37%.

As living standards decline further the business community begins to speak out against the Marcos regime. The NPA gains further ground in rural areas. In the cities and towns Communist Party influence continues to spread.

1985 - In November Marcos announces that an election for president will be held on 7 February of the following year. Corazon Aquino announces that she will stand as a candidate.

1986 - The election is held on schedule but the results are contested, with the opposition and Roman Catholic Church claiming widespread fraud and intimidation. Marcos is proclaimed the official winner on 15 February, sparking a rebellion by Defence Minister Enrile, armed forces vice chief-of-staff Fidel Ramos, and the commander of the Philippine police, who also believe that the vote has been rigged.

Calling on Marcos to resign, the rebels receive the backing of the church and the support of the people. The armed forces either join the rebellion or, faced-off by massive crowds gathered around the rebel's camp, decline to intervene.

On 25 February the Marcoses run, abandoning the presidential palace and flying to Hawaii in the US. Their 20-year regime is at its end. As the Marcoses flee, Corazon Aquino is sworn in as president, riding in on the massive wave of 'People's Power'.

When Marcos arrives in Hawaii he is said to be carrying suitcases containing jewels, 24 gold bricks and certificates for billions of dollars of gold bullion. His Swiss bank accounts are estimated to contain between US$3 billion and US$35 billion stolen from his country. The Philippine's foreign debt is about US$28 billion.

The new government acts quickly to recover deposits in the Marcoses' Swiss accounts. A formal request for assistance is sent to the Swiss Federal Police on 7 April. However, it takes 18 years for the US$624 million that is discovered to be returned to the Philippines Treasury.

To this day, the existence and whereabouts of the rest of the Marcos billions remains unconfirmed despite detailed investigations by the US Senate.

1987 - It is reported that Marcos is conspiring from his base in Hawaii to launch an armed invasion of the Philippines and again seize power.

1988 - Marcos is indicted by a federal grand jury in New York in the US for offences including mail fraud, fraudulent misappropriation of property and obstruction of justice.

1989 - He dies of a heart attack on 28 September while in exile in Honolulu, Hawaii, and before his trial.

Postscript

1990 - In March Imelda Marcos is brought to trial by the federal grand jury in New York but in July is acquitted on all counts. She faces further trials in the Philippines for the misappropriation of public funds but is able to avoid conviction. Meanwhile, on 28 September a special court in the Philippines convicts 16 Filipino military personnel of murdering Aquino and his "assassin".

1993 - Marcos's embalmed body is returned to the Philippines and placed on permanent display in a mausoleum in his home town. Imelda Marcos refuses to allow his body to be buried, saying that despite the Philippine Government's objections it should be interred at the 'Cemetery of Heroes' (Libingan Ng Mga Bayani) in Manilla.

1994 - The District Court of Hawaii finds that Marcos was responsible for executions, disappearances and torture during his rule and awards nearly US$2 billion in damages to thousands of surviving victims. The victims later agree to a US$150 million settlement, but a court in the Philippines blocks payment in 1999.

2003 - In July the Philippine Supreme Court rules that the US$624 million portion of the Marcos fortune discovered in Swiss bank accounts must be handed over to the Philippine Government. The money is to be used to buy land for distribution to poor farmers. The Marcos family immediately appeal against the judgement.

The ongoing fight over the Marcos millions is further complicated in September when the District Court of Hawaii places a global freeze order on the Marcos assets. The Philippine Government lodges an appeal against the freeze in a court in California.

On 18 November the Philippine Supreme Court upholds its July ruling and criticises the Hawaiian court for overstepping its jurisdiction.

2004 - On 25 March the international anticorruption organisation Transparency International (TI) places Marcos at second on a list of the world's most corrupt political leaders of the past two decades, surpassed only by former Indonesian President Suharto.

According to TI, Marcos is alleged to have embezzled between US$5 billion and US$10 billion from the Philippines.

Meanwhile, a judge in Hawaii orders that US$40 million held by a finance company set up by Marcos be used to start paying the victims of his regime who were awarded damages in 1994. The finance company appeals the ruling.

2005 - In a nationwide poll held in July Filipinos rate Marcos as the best of the country's last five presidents. The former dictator even out-polls his successor, the 'People's Power' leader, Corazon Aquino.

2007 - In September the Transparency International estimate of the amount embezzled by Marcos is quoted in a report by the Stolen Assets Recovery Initiative, a joint venture of the World Bank and the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime.

According to the report, "The channels whereby the money was allegedly stolen were diverse, including the takeover of private companies; creation of monopolies for sugar, coconuts, shipping, construction, and the media; fraudulent government loans; bribes from companies; and skimming off foreign loans and raiding the public treasury."

2011 - In January a US District Court judge approves the distribution of compensation to about 7,500 victims of the Marcos regime. Each claimant receives about US$1000. The money is sourced from a US$10 million settlement against the holders of land in Texas and Colorado bought with Marcos funds.

The same judge also finds Imelda Marcos and Ferdinand Marcos Jr in contempt for violating a court order requiring them to provide information about the assets of the Marcos estate. They are ordered to pay a fine of US$356.6 million, with the money to be distributed to the victims of the regime.

Comment: Marcos might not be one of the all-time killers but he is certainly one of the biggest thieves in the history of the planet. Estimates of his ill-gotten gains range from US$3 billion to US$35 billion. Some suggest that the true amount is over US$100 billion, perhaps even trillions of dollars.

While these latter sums may he fanciful, the legacy of the Marcos dictatorship is all too real - an economy struggling just to pay the interest on its foreign debt and a seriously compromised democracy seemingly unable to shake off entrenched corruption. Witness the debacle of the Estrada presidency. It took Marcos 20 years to pillage and wreck the Philippines. Unfortunately it may take far longer for the damage to be undone.

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2011, 10:57:34 pm »
^ iyan na iyan naman ang mga pagpapakilalang gustong isaksak sa utak ng mga pilipino at naniniwala naman ang karamihan hayss

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Re: We, Filipino should know
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2011, 07:10:52 pm »
nakakatawa kayo, kaya di umuunlad ang pinas dahil lagi nagtatalo sa politika, either makakaliwa or makakanan. dapat magkaisa lahat ng pilipino, baguhin ang bulok na pag-iisip, baguhin ang ways of living.

ang malaking truth kahit sino pa umupo dyan sa malacanang kontrolado pa din ng U.S. at IMF/world bank ang bansa natin, si magsaysay lang di nila napaamo kaya kunwari nag-crash ang eroplano pero pakana ng kano yun.

pag lumaban ka papapatay ka ng CIA. maraming documentaries ang nagkalat pero di lahat ay totoo, dapat maging mapagsuri tayo maigi bago tayo maniwala.

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