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Qualifications for Presidency
« on: March 14, 2006, 08:20:32 pm »
THE 1987 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES

Article VII: Executive Department
Sec. 2. No person may be elected President unless:
-   a natural-born citizen of the Philippines
-   a registered voter
-   able to read and write
-   at least forty years of age on the day of the election
-   a resident of the Philippines for at least ten years immediately preceding such election


okay lang ba to? or kulang?.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2006, 09:08:45 pm »
pwede pala kahit bagong laya sa munti nyan...mabuti pa yung candidate sa president  pwede kahit hindi nakapag-aral..samantalang yung mga nag-aaply na maging manager ng government corporation..daming requirements..kailangan masters degree o doctorate saka dapat pasado ng CESO (civil service) unfair yata yun..mas malaki ang resposibilidan ng president kaysa manager tapos baba ng qualification.. kahit nga secretary kailang college graduate

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2006, 09:15:40 pm »
hahaha erap nga ehhh dropout yan diba?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 12:14:15 am »
pwede pala kahit bagong laya sa munti nyan...mabuti pa yung candidate sa president  pwede kahit hindi nakapag-aral..samantalang yung mga nag-aaply na maging manager ng government corporation..daming requirements..kailangan masters degree o doctorate saka dapat pasado ng CESO (civil service) unfair yata yun..mas malaki ang resposibilidan ng president kaysa manager tapos baba ng qualification.. kahit nga secretary kailang college graduate

Agree ako sau Sir Devil...dpat is taasan ang qualification ng isang mgging Leader ng ating bansa at hindi lang dhil sa sikat cia or kilala ciang tao ay may krapatan na ciang 2makbo...

Di nga ba at nagreklamo si Elly Pamatong dhil isa cia sa mga nuisance candidate ng COMELEC...bkit daw parang mas pinboran pa ang mga drop-out kesa sa isang 2lad nia na mas mataas ang pinag-aralan...hehehe...may ktwiran dpo ba?

Ibig sbhin pala, khit isang tambay lang sa kan2 ay pweding 2makbo blan leader natin...ang baba nmn ng qualification...tsk.tsk.tsk...kwawa talaga ang Pinas pag ganyan....
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 03:29:35 am »
pwede pala kahit bagong laya sa munti nyan...mabuti pa yung candidate sa president  pwede kahit hindi nakapag-aral..samantalang yung mga nag-aaply na maging manager ng government corporation..daming requirements..kailangan masters degree o doctorate saka dapat pasado ng CESO (civil service) unfair yata yun..mas malaki ang resposibilidan ng president kaysa manager tapos baba ng qualification.. kahit nga secretary kailang college graduate


Agree ako sau Sir Devil...dpat is taasan ang qualification ng isang mgging Leader ng ating bansa at hindi lang dhil sa sikat cia or kilala ciang tao ay may krapatan na ciang 2makbo...

Di nga ba at nagreklamo si Elly Pamatong dhil isa cia sa mga nuisance candidate ng COMELEC...bkit daw parang mas pinboran pa ang mga drop-out kesa sa isang 2lad nia na mas mataas ang pinag-aralan...hehehe...may ktwiran dpo ba?

Ibig sbhin pala, khit isang tambay lang sa kan2 ay pweding 2makbo blan leader natin...ang baba nmn ng qualification...tsk.tsk.tsk...kwawa talaga ang Pinas pag ganyan....

For me, the constitution speaks well on this matter.

Presidency is not a matter of personality or an individual but it is an institution that must defended at all cost, preserve, dignifies and regarded with high respect, it holds the matter of the state and its people.

The qualifications indeed other than mentioned on the constitution does matter, but what matters of all is the passion to serve and the will to lead  a country, gearing forward to what is lies ahead. and he.she needs our unwavering support to fulfill what dream he.she has for our country.

Even if youre "tambay", but your passion to lead a country burns the skin of the populace and beleves in you, then you have no choice but to accept the rein with dignity and honor.

Voice of the people is the Voice of God. thre is no one have the monopoly to serve his/her country. SERVIRE CUM LAETITIA

Even the spies boys and Girls, pwede maging Presidente, yes or no?

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 04:01:31 am »
Ahhhhh...kaya pala nap2nayan yan ni Erap...isang college dropout but 'coz of his popularity, he won the election....but what happened after the election...dhil sa wala ciang alam, pinaikot lang cia ng mga Advisers nia...ginawa ciang dummy president sa Malacanang...

Un ba ang gus2 mong mangyari foreveryoung? Yung iboto natin ang isang kanto boy para mging ktawa-tawa ang bansa ntin...ung khit alam mong hindi ka karapat-dapat manungkulan, ng dhil lang sa sabi ng mga taong nakapaligid sau is ttakbo ka sa halalan?...hahaha...nagpptawa ka kaibigan...

As you've said...if you have the dignity at alam mong wala kang alam gawin...bakit ka pa ttakbo bilang isang lider...diba mas ppangit ang dignidad mo non at ssirahin mo lang ang pangalan mo...

Don't make me laugh, foreveryoung Sir, kung isa kang mtinong mamayan dapat wag lang ang popularidad ng isang tao ang batayan mo...dpat mo ring isipin kung anong pwedi niang gawin sa bansa....
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2006, 05:55:22 am »
Ahhhhh...kaya pala nap2nayan yan ni Erap...isang college dropout but 'coz of his popularity, he won the election....but what happened after the election...dhil sa wala ciang alam, pinaikot lang cia ng mga Advisers nia...ginawa ciang dummy president sa Malacanang...

Un ba ang gus2 mong mangyari foreveryoung? Yung iboto natin ang isang kanto boy para mging ktawa-tawa ang bansa ntin...ung khit alam mong hindi ka karapat-dapat manungkulan, ng dhil lang sa sabi ng mga taong nakapaligid sau is ttakbo ka sa halalan?...hahaha...nagpptawa ka kaibigan...

As you've said...if you have the dignity at alam mong wala kang alam gawin...bakit ka pa ttakbo bilang isang lider...diba mas ppangit ang dignidad mo non at ssirahin mo lang ang pangalan mo...

Don't make me laugh, foreveryoung Sir, kung isa kang mtinong mamayan dapat wag lang ang popularidad ng isang tao ang batayan mo...dpat mo ring isipin kung anong pwedi niang gawin sa bansa....

Neither I said popularity, nor did I base the qualifications on it, the premise is as stated in the constitution.
Erap?( see your example about erap) how about Marcos? Aquino? marami cilang alam, hindi ba cila pinaikot, in that case, hindi ba ginawang dummy si Aquino? ( please see ur argument) hindi ba cilang ginawa ng dummy na iba for their own vested interest. Si Marcos, hindi ba cia ginawang dummy ng america for their own vested interest in South East Asia.

Likewise. neither do i said (Your premise again), ang "tambay ba ay sikat?, neither do i said

" I repeat again, Even if youre "tambay", but your passion to lead a country burns the skin of the populace and believes in you, then you have no choice but to accept the rein with dignity and honor

Im basing my arguments again on the premise of the constitution, u mean to say that those authors of the constitution are short of thinking why they write that premise?

You believe in this? may nagagawa ang isang tao na hindi kayang gawin ng ibang tao. May mga taong hindi edukado ng husto pero nagagawa nila ang nagagawa ng isang edukadong tao,

If there will come a time that you have to choose between " a common tao" but u beleive in him, he can unite the country and move forward against a well educated and intelligent man but you know him very well that this country will lead to naught, whom do you choose.

Sir Fei long, hindi ako nagpapatawa, if youre a "tambay" and u believe and the whole country believes in you that you can run this country to its dreams, what is your choice?

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2006, 08:06:31 am »
Hahaha...pinaptawa mo talaga ako foreveryoung, baka po gus2 mong basahin ulit ang cnabi mo:

"Even if youre "tambay", but your passion to lead a country burns the skin of the populace and beleves in you, then you have no choice but to accept the rein with dignity and honor."

Ano kayang dignidad & honor ang cnabi mo about this "tambay"...

Kung ikaw ang ttanungin na isang professional at mataas ang pinag-aralan...ppayag ka bang maging under nag isang lider na hindi nakapag-aral? Wag po sana tyong mging ipokri2 Sir...

Alam nating lahat na tayo ay may karapatang mamuno sa isang komunidad or sa isang bansa...pero dpat din nting isipin kung tayo ba talaga ay karapat-dapat d2. Bkit mo ittaya ang reputasyon mo kung alam mong hindi mo kayang gampanan ang tiwalang ibbigay sa'yo ng sambayanan?

2lad nga ng sabi ko...Bkit po kaya hindi pinayagang 2makbo sa eleksiyon si Ellie Pamatong gayong cia ay may mas mataas na pinag-aralan kesa kay FPJ...diba dhil hindi cia kilala ng sambayanan...May isang professor din ng UP ang cnabing nuisance candidate ng COMELEC...di'ba mas may karapatan cia kumpara sa mga TRAPO?

Aminin mo sa sarili mo sir foreveryoung, na khit sa trabaho man...hindi ka ppayag na ma-under ng isang taong walang alam....tama po ba ako o mali?
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2006, 09:07:37 am »
Hahaha...pinaptawa mo talaga ako foreveryoung, baka po gus2 mong basahin ulit ang cnabi mo:

"Even if youre "tambay", but your passion to lead a country burns the skin of the populace and beleves in you, then you have no choice but to accept the rein with dignity and honor."

Ano kayang dignidad & honor ang cnabi mo about this "tambay"...

Kung ikaw ang ttanungin na isang professional at mataas ang pinag-aralan...ppayag ka bang maging under nag isang lider na hindi nakapag-aral? Wag po sana tyong mging ipokri2 Sir...

Alam nating lahat na tayo ay may karapatang mamuno sa isang komunidad or sa isang bansa...pero dpat din nting isipin kung tayo ba talaga ay karapat-dapat d2. Bkit mo ittaya ang reputasyon mo kung alam mong hindi mo kayang gampanan ang tiwalang ibbigay sa'yo ng sambayanan?

2lad nga ng sabi ko...Bkit po kaya hindi pinayagang 2makbo sa eleksiyon si Ellie Pamatong gayong cia ay may mas mataas na pinag-aralan kesa kay FPJ...diba dhil hindi cia kilala ng sambayanan...May isang professor din ng UP ang cnabing nuisance candidate ng COMELEC...di'ba mas may karapatan cia kumpara sa mga TRAPO?

Aminin mo sa sarili mo sir foreveryoung, na khit sa trabaho man...hindi ka ppayag na ma-under ng isang taong walang alam....tama po ba ako o mali?

To make it clear, THE PREMISE IS THE CONSTITUTION.
You dont notice i put open and clause parentheses on the TAMBAY. it doesnt mean literally the "tambay' per se, u mean to say if tambay wala ng alam, maraming tambay as kanto na professional, alang trabaho.

"Kung ikaw ang ttanungin na isang professional at mataas ang pinag-aralan...ppayag ka bang maging under nag isang lider na hindi nakapag-aral? Wag po sana tyong mging ipokri2 Sir..." HINDI  BA NANGYARI NA ITO SA PINAS SIR., MARAMING PONG PROFESSIONAL AND BUMOTO KAY ERAP,( INEXAMPLE MO CI ERAP)
How about Aquino, a plain housewife, right?


2lad nga ng sabi ko...Bkit po kaya hindi pinayagang 2makbo sa eleksiyon si Ellie Pamatong gayong cia ay may mas mataas na pinag-aralan kesa kay FPJ...diba dhil hindi cia kilala ng sambayanan...May isang professor din ng UP ang cnabing nuisance candidate ng COMELEC...di'ba mas may karapatan cia kumpara sa mga TRAPO - " because they dont have the machinery or the party to conduct a nationwide campaign"


Aminin mo sa sarili mo sir foreveryoung, na khit sa trabaho man...hindi ka ppayag na ma-under ng isang taong walang alam....tama po ba ako o mali?
[/quote], why not, i accept it to be on the under side,  if he or she have more guts than you? and if he has the capacity to turnarund the low sale of the companysame with the country. if a common tao perceive to be a leader why not?

Ang "TAMBAY" ba na tao, ala ng HONOR AT DIGNIDAD? and the prisoner ala na ba rin honor at dignity

How about those people in the boondocs, who met all the qualifications of as dictated by the constitution and beside they are the TRUE FILIPINO whoreally met all the qualifications,  are they not qualified to run? they are not well educated so so speak? if they have the leadership? Bonifacio for instance, is he educated? how about David, pastor ng tupa who became King because he is more capable and the will to unite the country and its people.

sir Fei long, hindi po me nagpapatawa, i repeat  "DO YOU HAVE A CHOICE" , if youre a "tambay" and u believe and the whole country believes in you that you can run this country to its dreams, what is your choice?



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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2006, 09:25:05 am »
Oooohhh...sori for not noticing the parentheses sir...hindi kasi mlinaw ang pagkksabi mo...

E2 po ang question nio:

"Sir Fei long, hindi ako nagpapatawa, if youre a "tambay" and u believe and the whole country believes in you that you can run this country to its dreams, what is your choice?"

At e2 po ang sgot nio:

"because they dont have the machinery or the party to conduct a nationwide campaign"

Di ikaw na rin mismo ang sumagot sa tnong mo sir....So saan po ang cnasabi mo ngayong khit "tambay" or ordinaryong mamayan ay may karaptang mamuno sa bansa basta if the community needed you...anong dhilan at tumakbo ang mga nuisance canidate...di kaya dhil kinailangan ng bayan ang pagllingkod nila?

Ano po kayang dhilan at pinapatay si Bonifacio sa Mt. Buntis Sir? Alam mo ang dahilan?
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2006, 10:05:07 am »
1987 is sooooooo different from 2006?. Filipinos cannot afford to respect a constitution in which some parts of it is not applicable or needed to be revised?

Oo nga.. willingness to serve the country?. Lahat tao ay meron nito?.. its up to the law sana kung sino ang karapatdapat na gumanap sa halalan?.we must have a strict requirement in order to have a good outcome?.. 

What I am trying to point out is that ang daming mali sa Philippine constitution?and this one ay isa na dun? not all in the phil constitution is rightful my friends? may part sa constitution na bina-violate ang mga rights ng pinoy and gobyerno nga mismo ehh bina-violate din nila ang phil consti..

Pagkapresidente po ng Pinas ang pinag usapan dito, dipo ito laro, di dapat basta2x ang makakatakbo? iba nga dyan ehhh punta ng sandigang bayan para mag apply tapos ibasura lang..waste of time and money lang po?

If this constitution eh linagay lang dyan para may constitution ang pinas na rerespetohin then, punitin nalangto? gawin nalang tong unwritten?..

the willingness to serve is not the basis kung sino ang karapatdapat tumakbo..... its the qualification....the qualifications i mean ehh kasama na dyan ang willingness to serve...




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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2006, 08:31:57 pm »
Ito lang masasabi ko sa inyo mga bro...

Leadership kasi ang pinag-uusapan pag Presidente na ang pag-uusapan. And it can't be learned only in school. So para sa akin hindi na kailangan yong requirement na College graduate ka or professional ka. Basta't your capable in leading the country. Kahit tambay ka or galing laya sa munti basta't may kakayahan ka pwede kang maging presidente at para sa akin fair yon para sa lahat.

What would I want to say is "Everyone can be a President" and that would be a fair to every one of us.

Wag niyo e-compare yong "applying for a job" and "applying for a president"  dahil malaking pagkakaiba non...

But anyway I respect all of your Opinions co'z their is a point in there... ;D


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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2006, 08:58:00 pm »
yes lahat may point...

the constitution itself is just a representation of something na equal tayo lahat....
it manifest itself sa feelings ng mga tao na nasisiyahan nito...

so pwede na akong mag apply for president, and i am sure that they will say na nuisance candidate ako..and i am not fit to run for presidency kahit strong ang leadership ko... i know that will happen kung sino man sa atin ang magpalista as a candidate... isnt that odd? na pwede lahat pero may screening pa pala? wala yan sa consstitution ahhh....

actually my friends... that is not the only requirement na dapat nating tingnan..there are a lot na hindi nakasama sa constitution, like the participation of the sandigang bayan, the screening of your "will"... and ect...



therefore the constitution is a lie....it represents eqaulity pero di naman nangyayari.... you can let people expect that they can run to presidency na bgsak sila sa civil service exam? kahit may strong will to serve ehh wala namang alam pano yan? baka magiging puppet nanaman tayo ng isang sendor or the most mga dayuhan....

we need education right now... this is not the stoneage....
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2006, 09:17:45 pm »
I disagree....

Not anyone can be President...anyone can be a Leader, yes, but president of the Philippines, NOOOO!!!or any country for that matter....

I say change the requirements, dapat atleast College graduate...If you dont have one, then work hard and strive for one.  Maawa naman kayo sa Pilipinas, masyado na naghihirap dahil di natin alam ang dapat at ang nararapat!

Life is not fair, Live with it. Actually, the voting and the voters and the candidates are all flawed...the system is flawed, the government is flawed...
so why vote? eh grabe naman ang dayaan...i dont believe that evert single vote counts..eh kada boto mo, milyon naman ang pumapasok na daya...POINTLESS!!!might as well boycot the election.

i love the Philippines and the Filipinos..and proud to be one...BUT....im not idealistic and naive...i dont dwell on EDSA, i dont believe in the government's capabilities...I dont believe in the SYSTEM.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2006, 11:59:56 pm »
Oooohhh...sori for not noticing the parentheses sir...hindi kasi mlinaw ang pagkksabi mo...

E2 po ang question nio:

"Sir Fei long, hindi ako nagpapatawa, if youre a "tambay" and u believe and the whole country believes in you that you can run this country to its dreams, what is your choice?"

At e2 po ang sgot nio:

"because they dont have the machinery or the party to conduct a nationwide campaign"

Di ikaw na rin mismo ang sumagot sa tnong mo sir....So saan po ang cnasabi mo ngayong khit "tambay" or ordinaryong mamayan ay may karaptang mamuno sa bansa basta if the community needed you...anong dhilan at tumakbo ang mga nuisance canidate...di kaya dhil kinailangan ng bayan ang pagllingkod nila?

Ano po kayang dhilan at pinapatay si Bonifacio sa Mt. Buntis Sir? Alam mo ang dahilan?

Sir Fei long, hindi ako nagpapatawa, if youre a "tambay" and u believe and the whole country believes in you that you can run this country to its dreams, what is your choice?"

At e2 po ang sgot nio:

"because they dont have the machinery or the party to conduct a nationwide campaign"

Sir have you not noticed, "YOU BELIEVE AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY  BELIEVES IN YOU" you mean to say that still you dont have this machinery wherein the WHOLE has the support? when you have this, you are no more a nuisance candidate because you have the now the so called MACHINERY.

Ano po kayang dhilan at pinapatay si Bonifacio sa Mt. Buntis Sir? Alam mo ang dahilan?
[/quote] - Our premise is not why or the reason? as I stated, If you have the capability to lead which was indeed Bonifacio displayed, wherein he led the his countrymen to battle and the people responded and supported.

anyway, thanks for our co spies and to you sir fei long in lend your time & their time at least to share yours and their  word of wisdom, not only for our discourse but likewise for our continous enlightenment and informative information.





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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2006, 01:14:22 am »
this is indeed a very healthy conversation or discussion, i commend all of you, you may have different views but each one of you have points and sense in your own stand.  This simply shows that there are a lot of Filipinos out there who really have brains. 

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2006, 03:17:57 pm »
sir fei long at forever young, bonifacio (my fave hero, hehehe!) died because of power struggle. he was actually executed after a trial, when he was found guilty of mutiny (im not really sure) by the camp of aguinaldo. if you guys remember bonifacio's party went to cavite for a meeting but it turned out to be an election on who will be the Supremo. syempre talo si bonifacio, turf ni aguinaldo yun eh and he announced that the election was invalid pero tapos na ang lahat.

for me bonifacio really had the spark, the courage and the ideals of being a good leader. but he didnt really have the knowhow to run a government. during their time, aguinaldo was actaully winning more battles than bonifacio and was becoming more popular. but i am not in agreement with what aguinaldo had done.

president-wise, marcos did have the brains, cory had the popularity and ire of the filipinos at that time, ramos had the vision, erap and fpj had the popularity also, while gma had the machinery, so in my opinion, all these presidents had what was needed in order to sit in the chair of presidency. so saan nagkamali, sa sistema. sa kin lang, sana yung susunod na presidente would have the guts to change the system! to fight off corruption at its very core!

in addition, i do believe that future presidents should be educated. dapat meron din silang pera (i strongly believe they need this), at popular din dapat sila. dapat matapang sila, at dapat maganda rin yung vision nila on how to run the country.   

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2006, 04:35:32 pm »
obviously kulang pa yan... kung ako tatanugin eh kulang na kulang yan.. hindi nga man lang nilagyan yun work na related para maging qualified maging president... kaya cguro kinakailangan na ng Chacha pero hndi ko gusto kasi pwdeng gawin pabor para sa kanila yun mga batas at mas kawawa naman tayo... may dumalo ba dun sa charter change na convention ata yun? sana naman may magpost dito ng mga nilalaman ng pulong na yun...

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2006, 10:40:28 pm »
Nice topic lahat me point..pero sakin ang qualification ng presedente Dapat me puso,matapang, at edukado...peace

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2006, 10:59:50 pm »
nag-abala pa kayo e sabi nga sa balita pagdating ng hunyo ngayong taon iba na ang saligang batas ng pinoy

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2006, 11:31:31 pm »
nag-abala pa kayo e sabi nga sa balita pagdating ng hunyo ngayong taon iba na ang saligang batas ng pinoy

kaya nga dyosa ginawa ko ang topic na ito kasi may tumitingin na concom dito...hehehe

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2006, 11:40:00 pm »
ikaw gusto mo bang magcha-cha?

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2006, 11:47:09 pm »
ikaw gusto mo bang magcha-cha?

hindi.... consti revision lang ang gusto ko... kasi pag chacha overhaul yan ehhh.... di pa handa ang pinas dyan...

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2006, 02:32:18 am »
kala ko ba quali ng president topic? hehehe!

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Re: Qualifications for Presidency
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2006, 04:31:11 am »
kala ko ba quali ng president topic? hehehe!

tinanong kasi ako ehhh.. hehehehe baka duda sya na okay sakin ang cha2x kasi may gusto akong baguhin...since sa topic ng cha2x ay di ko talaga favor....