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Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« on: September 08, 2015, 10:47:04 am »



Acquisition of much-needed military equipment and platforms has been given the green light with the signing by President Benigno S. Aquino III of the revised Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Modernization Program.

This was disclosed by Department of National Defense (DND) Undersecretary for Finance, Modernization, Installation and Munitions Fernando Manalo during the presentation of the DND’s proposed 2016 budget before the House of Representatives Appropriations Committee on Tuesday.

Around 30 procurement projects, including the missile-firing frigate, long-range patrol aircraft, surveillance radars and close-air support aircraft program, will now move to their next respective bidding phase, Manalo said.

He noted that these projects “were held in abeyance” last May pending the signing of the new AFP Modernization Law.

The DND is seeking a PhP158.8-billion budget for 2016, broken down into PhP63.5-billion for territorial defense, security and stability; PhP1.5-billion for humanitarian assistance and disaster relief; PhP667-million for international engagements and peace support missions; and PhP93.1-billion for force level support and training.

The latter amount is also inclusive of pensions. (PNA)

http://tankler.com/brand-new-frigates-and-other-30-projects-finally-signed-by-pnoy-2128#

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 12:49:42 pm »
at last some real muscle for the philippine navy... let's hope it will be a brand new and state of the art frigate... baka mamaya e mga segunda mano na naman which we are notorious of...

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 01:07:46 pm »
ilang president na ang naupo
kung di lang talaga tayo tinarantado ng china
siguro wala pa din  ;D

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 08:04:34 pm »
tama

kung hindi pa tayo binubully ng China hindi naman bibili ng ganyan ang PInas

tsaka 500 billion pa ang hindi ginagastos

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 10:36:20 am »
tama

kung hindi pa tayo binubully ng China hindi naman bibili ng ganyan ang PInas

tsaka 500 billion pa ang hindi ginagastos

i totally agree

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 06:04:41 am »



Acquisition of much-needed military equipment and platforms has been given the green light with the signing by President Benigno S. Aquino III of the revised Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Modernization Program.

This was disclosed by Department of National Defense (DND) Undersecretary for Finance, Modernization, Installation and Munitions Fernando Manalo during the presentation of the DND’s proposed 2016 budget before the House of Representatives Appropriations Committee on Tuesday.

Around 30 procurement projects, including the missile-firing frigate, long-range patrol aircraft, surveillance radars and close-air support aircraft program, will now move to their next respective bidding phase, Manalo said.

He noted that these projects “were held in abeyance” last May pending the signing of the new AFP Modernization Law.

The DND is seeking a PhP158.8-billion budget for 2016, broken down into PhP63.5-billion for territorial defense, security and stability; PhP1.5-billion for humanitarian assistance and disaster relief; PhP667-million for international engagements and peace support missions; and PhP93.1-billion for force level support and training.

The latter amount is also inclusive of pensions. (PNA)

http://tankler.com/brand-new-frigates-and-other-30-projects-finally-signed-by-pnoy-2128#

Kun di ba naman ang laki ng sira ng ulo  nyan si benigno.  Ang dapat gawin ay maki pag coordinate sa mga embassy at defense officials ng either Denmark, Australia, Sweden or Germany to get designs of frigates, destroyers or PT boats at gawin na lang mga yan sa Pinas.  Magkakaron pa ng trabaho at  makakatipid pa tayo sa paglabas ng dollar. We are an archipelago and there are a lot of areas where we can build several slipways all at the same time to manufacture and assemble these vessels. Surely, wala pa isang taon ay kaya tumapos ng isang barko kun tambakan yan ng mga trabahador.  Ang daming walang trabaho so if we create, say 200 slipways all over the country agad at gagawa ng sabay sabay na iba't ibang barkong pandigma, sa loob ng tatlong taon ay magkakaroon na tayo ng credible navy.  Then, we can put a blockade around our own islands para di makapasok ang mga tsaynis sa mga ginawa nilang illegal structures na walang barangay clearance at environmental impact assessment report.

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 11:44:24 am »
good as it sounds, i don't think those countries would just give their blueprints on building this ships... at best, they will send people here to supervise and manage the construction... i do agree that barring corruption we have enough funds to build several battle worthy crafts a year...

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 11:53:04 pm »
kahit ano naman ang gawin ng gobyerno hindi sila nawawalang ng kapintasan

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2015, 01:43:02 am »
Kun di ba naman ang laki ng sira ng ulo  nyan si benigno.  Ang dapat gawin ay maki pag coordinate sa mga embassy at defense officials ng either Denmark, Australia, Sweden or Germany to get designs of frigates, destroyers or PT boats at gawin na lang mga yan sa Pinas.  Magkakaron pa ng trabaho at  makakatipid pa tayo sa paglabas ng dollar. We are an archipelago and there are a lot of areas where we can build several slipways all at the same time to manufacture and assemble these vessels. Surely, wala pa isang taon ay kaya tumapos ng isang barko kun tambakan yan ng mga trabahador.  Ang daming walang trabaho so if we create, say 200 slipways all over the country agad at gagawa ng sabay sabay na iba't ibang barkong pandigma, sa loob ng tatlong taon ay magkakaroon na tayo ng credible navy.  Then, we can put a blockade around our own islands para di makapasok ang mga tsaynis sa mga ginawa nilang illegal structures na walang barangay clearance at environmental impact assessment report.

This is the kind of response that comes from people who don't have a single clue about the Military-Industrial complex.

You do not simply go to a foreign company/country and expect them to hand over the designs of their product. Even if say we have the money to "buy" it from them, it doesn't mean they will automatically sell. These companies, just like you, have the interest of their own nation and of their own people in mind. Simply put, its much more beneficial for them to sell us a number of naval vessels rather than sell us the design and allow us to build it our selves. The most we can hope for is to enter a partnership with these companies. For that to happen, they should see something that would benefit them. They wont enter a deal that would make use of their assets and not give anything back in return.

Will having the Philippines as a partner be beneficial? If you want them to set shop in the Philippines the please answer some of these questions first.

1. Where in the Philippines do you intend to build the ships? If you're thinking of Cebu, Subic or Batangas then let me just remind you that the large shipyards in those areas are owned by foreign companies and not by the Philippine government. They have their own agendas. Their production lines have their own commitments and their own set of deadlines to meet. Not to mention that those shipyards are not designed to build advance military vessels. They are for civilian/commercial vessels. The Philippines have very little experience with building Naval units. So do you want to set-up a dedicated production line for military vessels? 

2. How many ships do we intend to build/purchase? If the Philippines only intend to acquire 2 vessels, then forget it. No one in their right mind will go through the hassle of putting up a production line just to build 2 ships. Should the navy buy more? can we really afford more? Aside from the purchase price, we also have to pay for the ships operation and maintenance. 

3. How long will it take to deliver? We need those ships yesterday. Would starting from scratch in the Philippines lead to faster delivery time? I doubt it. Take for example our SSV (Makassar class) being built right now in Indonesia. Its adopted from a Korean design. Now it takes the Indonesians more or less a year to build one ship. On the other hand the  KRI Surabaya (same class) which was made in Korea took less than 6 months. The reason for this is that apparently not all the parts needed are available nor can be made in Indonesia. Some, like the engines need to be imported from Korea.

Now, think again. Given the current situation, would it be wise for the Philippines to build its own ship? Is it even plausible? Hindi yan parang video game na may pipindotin ka lang para gumawa ng units.       
« Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 01:50:52 am by tigerwing »

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2015, 07:28:20 am »
Probably the only good thing he did in 6 years.

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2015, 11:43:09 am »
don't forget the wang wang... he was consistent with it.... :)

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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2015, 07:47:27 pm »
Kun di ba naman ang laki ng sira ng ulo  nyan si benigno.  Ang dapat gawin ay maki pag coordinate sa mga embassy at defense officials ng either Denmark, Australia, Sweden or Germany to get designs of frigates, destroyers or PT boats at gawin na lang mga yan sa Pinas.  Magkakaron pa ng trabaho at  makakatipid pa tayo sa paglabas ng dollar. We are an archipelago and there are a lot of areas where we can build several slipways all at the same time to manufacture and assemble these vessels. Surely, wala pa isang taon ay kaya tumapos ng isang barko kun tambakan yan ng mga trabahador.  Ang daming walang trabaho so if we create, say 200 slipways all over the country agad at gagawa ng sabay sabay na iba't ibang barkong pandigma, sa loob ng tatlong taon ay magkakaroon na tayo ng credible navy.  Then, we can put a blockade around our own islands para di makapasok ang mga tsaynis sa mga ginawa nilang illegal structures na walang barangay clearance at environmental impact assessment report.

tambak ang taong ganito sa TopGear PH. wahahahaha! sorry OT. pero most replies nitong si gkhan puro comedy eh.
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Re: Brand-New Frigates And Other 30 PROJECTS FINALLY SIGNED BY PNOY
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2015, 08:43:51 pm »
don't forget the wang wang... he was consistent with it.... :)
That's true. Pero meh, it's not like not using wang wang did any good for the country.