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What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« on: December 03, 2007, 07:19:50 pm »
mga spy, ano ba suggestions nyo na gawin ng pinas sa mga rebeldeng to?
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2007, 08:13:01 pm »
i think the best way is to deal with them one at a time..... we should first deal with the weakest enemy to test new tactics and new weaponry (kung meron mang new sa AFP). Then deal with the next one and so on.....  like for the abu.... evacuate the whole civilian population of the little island where they're at then send in the marines, airforce, army, scout rangers, navy, PNP, brgy. tanod, private gun owners, magdalo soldiers, trigger happy persons that are now in bilibid.... then their mission would be to unleash hell on everything that moves in the island and take no prisoners....   gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: And for the next enemy.....its another story....
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 07:11:16 am »
im sorry but the best way to deal with them is to ask for assistance from the United States or other countries. i just specified United States because obviously we already have quite a military relation. i dont think people should complain about them maybe giving us their older weapons, hey. better than no weapon at all, dont worry about imperialism etc, if you ask those die hard pinoys who hate american presence why they're proud of being pinoy in the first place, they cant give any logical answer. the only way to improve obviously is to get help or follow in the footsteps of countries who have proven the best of capabilities.
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 07:38:04 am »
Isa lang ang masasabi ko.

All Military dealings is all about Business.

Pag tinapos na kasi ng Military ang mga operations nila ay mawawalan na sila ng budget at lalo na mawawalang ng kita. Lahat ng mga offensive attacks nila is puro pa-pogi points lang. At laging ang mga kawawa ay yung mga enlisted personels na nasa frontline.

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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 08:31:15 am »
Quote from: Telesforo on December 04, 2007, 07:38:04 am
Isa lang ang masasabi ko.

All Military dealings is all about Business.

Pag tinapos na kasi ng Military ang mga operations nila ay mawawalan na sila ng budget at lalo na mawawalang ng kita. Lahat ng mga offensive attacks nila is puro pa-pogi points lang. At laging ang mga kawawa ay yung mga enlisted personels na nasa frontline.

Parang Helpdesk support lang yan. Kung mawawalan ng issue mawawalang ng trabaho ang Helpdesk Tech at magbabawas ng tao sa group.

Oo nga naman.. Parang agree ata ako dito...

Come to think of it.. I dont understand why our military cant deal with them effectively. I mean the AFP should be better equiped and better trained than those rebels.. at hindi din naman ganun karami ang rebel forces diba? Pero ano nangyayari? daming namamatay na sundalo at parang hindi ata nababawasan ang mga kalaban..  I you ask me, dapat ata eh matagal ng natapos ito kung seryoso lng ang militar at gobyerno...
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 11:59:54 am »
although much of the captured rebel weapons on tv are old m1 garands and worn out m16s and ak47's, rpg 7's they dont show you that many of our local rebels are also armed with the latest g36, and highly modified weapons. theyre being funded from somewhere and our military cant handle jungle warfare having only minute ammo rations. :)
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 07:39:13 pm »
off topic lang po;

Rebels with g36's ?more info or photos about this pls.
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 07:51:44 pm »
buti pa mag Friends nlng tayo lahat! :D b*; b*; bnana bnana
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 07:59:32 pm »
i guess tama nga yung ginawa ni erap na all out war, hindi dapat binebeybi ang rebelyon. kaso patay ang negosyo ng mga generals, kaya ng withdraw sila ng support during the edsa 2.  >:(
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 08:12:24 pm »
kailangan good government at good economy then mawawala din ang mga iyan
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 12:56:43 am »


hayaan na lang sila,tutal kayo lang namang nasa pinas ang magugulo di magsamasama na kayo hehehe
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 01:04:18 am »
bro, eto scenario ko and suggestion para malaman ko din kung talagang gusto nila na katahimikan kasi either group gusto ng katahimikan meron tayong mga kumkausap sa MI, MN, ASG, NPA, at kung sinu-sino pa...eto pa, gusto ko rin mapatunayan na ang mga tag lines na "WAR IS BUSINESS" ay hindi totoo (wishful thinking) kahit dito lang muna sa atin sa Pilipinas...eto na suggestion ko...

1. bakit hindi e-challenge ng AFP (the whole 4 major service commands kasama ang special units nila) hamunin ang mga nabanggit na kalaban ng gobyerno...sa isang parte ng mindanao magtalaga sila ng isang isla dito doon sila mag-rumble...let us hypothetically say Basilan, kahat ng sibilyan sa lugar na iyon e-EVAC nila walang taga roon na mamamayan ang madadamay, basta ang usapan lang between the lawless groups vs AFP lang ang labanan.

2. walang lalabas ng AOP (area of operation) liban sa mga sugatan na AFP & and the lawless groups (dadalhin sila bilang POW sa mga pagamutan)

3. kung sinong mananalo sa huli kanya na ang (hypothetical area) Basilan.

4. let us say nanalo ang AFP or lawless groups at gusto nilang mabawi ang lugar, e-challenge ulit...same rules apply.

5. if you happen to be a general in the AFP you are to be in the field para naman lumiit ng konti ang tiyan nyo, maganda na kasi masyado ang buhay nyo dito sa Manila, "BE THE SOLDIER YOU USED TO BE" fight with your men para irespeto kayo ng mga iyan.

6. media coverage: go at your own risk, do your job at your own risk...either camp will not be responsible for you and the safety of your news crew...bahala ang istasyon nyo sa inyo

lahatin na ang mga sasaling lawless elements (npa, mn, mi, asg) sama-sama na silang lahat against the AFP...in this scenario walang madadamay na inosenteng sibilyan either Muslims, Christians...sila sila mga may armas, pampasabog, (logistics) ang magdalihan doon, wala dapat na involve dito na mga Politicians if and when this Politicians will aid the lawless groups, dadalhin din dapat sila sa Battlefield...
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 03:40:51 am »
^ Pareng brod. the civilians you are talking about are the same people if not family of these rebel groups. So impossible na magsialis sila sa lugar na paglalabanan. Those people are their shield.

Sangayon ako dun sa nagsabi ng good government at economy BUT it should be delivered to all people hindi yung mga nasa syudad lang ang nakikinabang. Kung may hanapbuhay ang mga hinahupak na yan di rin naman magbabaril-barilan yan, sino ba naman ang may gustong mamundok at kumain ng kamote araw araw?

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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2007, 04:22:19 am »
kill all
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2007, 06:28:38 am »
napalm  toast::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 07:27:54 am »
i'm sure di lalaban ng harapan ang mga rebeldeng yan, maliban nalang cguro kung pantay ang laban like same number of soldiers, same weapons. masaya to, hala gyera na... laffman::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 09:27:36 am »
 ::)

Tama yung sabi ng nasa itaas ,lalaban ba naman sila ng harapan.Ano sila minamalas?!  :D

seriously;

kung nasa side ka ng rebels,papayag ka ba sa ganoong setup? smoking::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2007, 11:46:00 am »
Give them Livelihood and Education. Poverty is one of the main reason why this people are joining terror groups. They get money from this group. Money to feed their family.
Its not too late for the government work on it.
 
War is not always the answer my friend. just my two cents worth…
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 06:34:40 am »
poverty is most probably the main reason, pero karamihan kasi jan e tamad kya di umaasenso. gusto ng easy money, kya puro illegal ginagawa like revolutionary taxes, kidnap for ransom, extortion and more. kaya dapat sa kanila ubusin, bakit pag tayo ngdadala ng armas e illegal position of firearm kaagad tapos sila pwedeng idisplay ung matataas pa na kalibreng armas nila and meron pa silang kini-claim na teritoryo raw nila?  gun::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 09:33:43 am »
Quote from: darcknight on December 05, 2007, 01:04:18 am
bro, eto scenario ko and suggestion para malaman ko din kung talagang gusto nila na katahimikan kasi either group gusto ng katahimikan meron tayong mga kumkausap sa MI, MN, ASG, NPA, at kung sinu-sino pa...eto pa, gusto ko rin mapatunayan na ang mga tag lines na "WAR IS BUSINESS" ay hindi totoo (wishful thinking) kahit dito lang muna sa atin sa Pilipinas...eto na suggestion ko...

1. bakit hindi e-challenge ng AFP (the whole 4 major service commands kasama ang special units nila) hamunin ang mga nabanggit na kalaban ng gobyerno...sa isang parte ng mindanao magtalaga sila ng isang isla dito doon sila mag-rumble...let us hypothetically say Basilan, kahat ng sibilyan sa lugar na iyon e-EVAC nila walang taga roon na mamamayan ang madadamay, basta ang usapan lang between the lawless groups vs AFP lang ang labanan.

2. walang lalabas ng AOP (area of operation) liban sa mga sugatan na AFP & and the lawless groups (dadalhin sila bilang POW sa mga pagamutan)

3. kung sinong mananalo sa huli kanya na ang (hypothetical area) Basilan.

4. let us say nanalo ang AFP or lawless groups at gusto nilang mabawi ang lugar, e-challenge ulit...same rules apply.

5. if you happen to be a general in the AFP you are to be in the field para naman lumiit ng konti ang tiyan nyo, maganda na kasi masyado ang buhay nyo dito sa Manila, "BE THE SOLDIER YOU USED TO BE" fight with your men para irespeto kayo ng mga iyan.

6. media coverage: go at your own risk, do your job at your own risk...either camp will not be responsible for you and the safety of your news crew...bahala ang istasyon nyo sa inyo

lahatin na ang mga sasaling lawless elements (npa, mn, mi, asg) sama-sama na silang lahat against the AFP...in this scenario walang madadamay na inosenteng sibilyan either Muslims, Christians...sila sila mga may armas, pampasabog, (logistics) ang magdalihan doon, wala dapat na involve dito na mga Politicians if and when this Politicians will aid the lawless groups, dadalhin din dapat sila sa Battlefield...

tiyak ako hindi lalaban ang mga yan.... karamihan sa mga yan matatapang dahil mga bata pa, pero sa experience wala binatbat sa afp ... tsaka matatapang lang mga yan dahil nagdadrugs bago umatake... sa ilaga na nga lang takot na takot mga milf tsaka sa grupo ng mga ilonggo sa north cotabato....

Quote from: al de monte on December 05, 2007, 11:46:00 am
Give them Livelihood and Education. Poverty is one of the main reason why this people are joining terror groups. They get money from this group. Money to feed their family.
Its not too late for the government work on it.
 
War is not always the answer my friend. just my two cents worthÂ…


sa palagay ko hindi rin to applicable sa karamihan ng mga muslim rebels... kasi karamihan sa  nagrerebeldeng muslim e ayaw magtrabaho... easy money kumbaga... mahal nila ang baril nila kaysa sinuman...
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2007, 11:48:16 am »
kung gagamitin nilang shield ang pamilya nila... edi isama ang pamilya... bombahin na sila... gaya nung sa peninsula... pa tear gas effect pa... dapat pinasabog nalang nila... isama na yung mga tangang media sa loob...
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2007, 11:29:10 pm »
Quote from: pEaNuT bItEr on December 06, 2007, 09:33:43 am
sa palagay ko hindi rin to applicable sa karamihan ng mga muslim rebels... kasi karamihan sa  nagrerebeldeng muslim e ayaw magtrabaho... easy money kumbaga... mahal nila ang baril nila kaysa sinuman...

as iv said; war is not always the answer. If they want easy money, then that’s the time we gonna go to war. very simple.
juz my two cents…. toast::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 12:57:51 am »
Quote from: al de monte on December 06, 2007, 11:29:10 pm
Quote from: pEaNuT bItEr on December 06, 2007, 09:33:43 am
sa palagay ko hindi rin to applicable sa karamihan ng mga muslim rebels... kasi karamihan sa  nagrerebeldeng muslim e ayaw magtrabaho... easy money kumbaga... mahal nila ang baril nila kaysa sinuman...

as iv said; war is not always the answer. If they want easy money, then that’s the time we gonna go to war. very simple.
juz my two cents…. toast::

war IS the answer to people like that... kaya malalakas loob ng mga yan dahil alam nila na hindi seryoso ang pag tugis sa kanila... kung magbibigay ng halimbawa sa kanila (gaya nung sinabi ko about dun kena trillanes na dapat pinatay na agad sila on sight) eh matatakot na yan... hindi naman kasi natatakot pag harapang barilan... edi bombahin sila agad... like i said... war IS the answer to people like that...
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 02:11:42 am »
dapat cguro magkaron ng underground killing unit ang defense natin parang ala weiss kreuz ba, para sila na bahal magtumba ng mga dapat itumba  toast::
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Re: What shall we do against MILF, MNLF, NPA, ABU?
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 09:01:30 pm »
Quote from: Core_2_Duo on December 07, 2007, 02:11:42 am
dapat cguro magkaron ng underground killing unit ang defense natin parang ala weiss kreuz ba, para sila na bahal magtumba ng mga dapat itumba  toast::

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