Topic: Help to built. 15k worth of mid range gaming rig CPU only.

[leightot]

Spies pa prebuilt naman CPU only worth 15k. decent gaming. hindi naman overkill games tipong pwede yung mga steam games like starcraft2 etc etc.

video card with hdmi ano massugest nyo?thanks

[kenji_kulet]

Trinity build sir  AMD APU A10+6670

[leightot]

bro not too much to ask pero pa break down na din  ng specs. thanks hehe
CPU:
MOBO:
RAM:
HDD:
ODD:
GPU:
PSU:
ATX:

[kenji_kulet]

bro not too much to ask pero pa break down na din  ng specs. thanks hehe
CPU:
MOBO:
RAM:
HDD:
ODD:
GPU:
PSU:
ATX:

CPU: AMD APU A10-5800K ( pero there are more APU's coming not sure when , and some apu's are already been use on the new consoles that will come out this holiday season , which card to be paired honestly i don't know yet pero A10-5800k is the best bang for a buck solution for that  )

MOBO: FM2 Mobo Socket ( MSI suggest ko  pero it's up to you what brand did you wanted )

RAM: 1866ghz 8gb ( or depende sa mobo at gusto mo , some mobo can go 2000mhz but 1866 is best for gaming )

GPU: AMD RADEON 6670 (only 6670 can perform Hybrid crossfire, APU + 1 HD6670 )

PSU:  500W ( di naman ganun kalaki kumain ang hybrid pero for expandabilty na rin in the future )

SSD : 120GB for OS (64bit if possible para sa ram) and other programs you might use

HDD : it's up to you if how big you wanted for storing other programs , documents , music and video and it depends on the budget

ATX: depende parin sa gusto mong board eto , hindi ako makapag bigay ng exact mobo form na pwede , ako i use a micro-atx with 2 video card slot para in case i wanted to do crossfire or two gpu i can easily do it with out spending again any money

[leightot]

CPU: AMD APU A10-5800K ( pero there are more APU's coming not sure when , and some apu's are already been use on the new consoles that will come out this holiday season , which card to be paired honestly i don't know yet pero A10-5800k is the best bang for a buck solution for that  )

MOBO: FM2 Mobo Socket ( MSI suggest ko  pero it's up to you what brand did you wanted )

RAM: 1866ghz 8gb ( or depende sa mobo at gusto mo , some mobo can go 2000mhz but 1866 is best for gaming )

GPU: AMD RADEON 6670 (only 6670 can perform Hybrid crossfire, APU + 1 HD6670 )

PSU:  500W ( di naman ganun kalaki kumain ang hybrid pero for expandabilty na rin in the future )

SSD : 120GB for OS (64bit if possible para sa ram) and other programs you might use

HDD : it's up to you if how big you wanted for storing other programs , documents , music and video and it depends on the budget

ATX: depende parin sa gusto mong board eto , hindi ako makapag bigay ng exact mobo form na pwede , ako i use a micro-atx with 2 video card slot para in case i wanted to do crossfire or two gpu i can easily do it with out spending again any money

thanks bro, papa qoute ko to sa gilmore. limited kasi budget ko 15k only for cpu.

btw my friend is selling his rig to me for 15k 4 months used and no warranty coz galing ng Korea yung unit, but super maintained eto yung specs what do you think?

Processor: Intel Core i7-920 Processor (8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel QPI)
Motherboard: Extreme Intel Desktop Board DX58SO
Graphic Card: GeForce GTX 260 216 SP (896MB) 448bit
Memory: 4gb 1333
Hard Disk Drive: Seagate 1 Terabyte
Case: Mid Tower for gamers
Power Supply: Cougar Rs 650w

[kenji_kulet]

thanks bro, papa qoute ko to sa gilmore. limited kasi budget ko 15k only for cpu.

btw my friend is selling his rig to me for 15k 4 months used and no warranty coz galing ng Korea yung unit, but super maintained eto yung specs what do you think?

Processor: Intel Core i7-920 Processor (8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel QPI)
Motherboard: Extreme Intel Desktop Board DX58SO
Graphic Card: GeForce GTX 260 216 SP (896MB) 448bit
Memory: 4gb 1333
Hard Disk Drive: Seagate 1 Terabyte
Case: Mid Tower for gamers
Power Supply: Cougar Rs 650w

to be honest with you bro , i'm not a big fan of pre-build computers personal experience is i have difficult time fixing them due to programs na install na sa loob i'm scared that i might broke it if i take of some of it hardware and software at wala ng warranty after a few months

and when it comes to mobo , it's not branded di mo alam ang specs so if you wanted to upgrade it you have to figure out what kind of mobo it is

and pre-install OS is most likely 32 bit which can only be upgrade upto 4gb ( lame  )

but GeForce GTX 260 216 SP (896MB) 448bit is good card for a buck if you wanted to play BF3 in high ok lang pero walang Anti Aliasing

check here i compare the two cards yung isa yung sa friend mo yung isa yung HD6670
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=577&card2=656

Eto yung video card ng friend mo running BF3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKzLymTExA

eto naman yung suggestion ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ5hhGrOKAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbvtxmb-PJ0

I have a friend who's doin this dyan sa pinas , and doing diskless pc if you wanted 

you can talk to him , pwesto yan and member sya sa tipid PC
https://www.facebook.com/pcnetmiles.sales.online



example work nya

[MasterChief63]

i7 920 is a bit too old, if your gonna go Budget CPU go AMD A10 APU if you can, kung midrange gaming then DONT get a 6670 or any video card since the 5800ks 7660D is capable of running games Very Low to High(not very High) on its own as long as you do have 8gb of RAM since the APU IGP will pull its video memory from the system memory itself, get the fastest possible Memory as Well kung 1866-2000 kaya ng mobo makukuha mo or get 1600 then just overclock it

[MasterChief63]

example work nya

BANGIS SSD, does Diskless mean no DVD Drive? im confused kasi kala ko Discless meant no HDD hahaha e naka SSD sya

anyway san nakakabili ng Carbon Fiber surcafe na ganyan gusto ko lagyan yung loob ng pc ko hehe

[kenji_kulet]

BANGIS SSD, does Diskless mean no DVD Drive? im confused kasi kala ko Discless meant no HDD hahaha e naka SSD sya

anyway san nakakabili ng Carbon Fiber surcafe na ganyan gusto ko lagyan yung loob ng pc ko hehe

alam ko disk less means - walang HDD yung ibang PC commonly use for netcafe isang computer lang ang may storage  yun ang pagkaka intindi ko

i don't know chief where he gets that carbon fiber decals but i wanted one too for my rig  the old plain black corsair case is too boring for me i wanted to change mine too

[leightot]

i7 920 is a bit too old, if your gonna go Budget CPU go AMD A10 APU if you can, kung midrange gaming then DONT get a 6670 or any video card since the 5800ks 7660D is capable of running games Very Low to High(not very High) on its own as long as you do have 8gb of RAM since the APU IGP will pull its video memory from the system memory itself, get the fastest possible Memory as Well kung 1866-2000 kaya ng mobo makukuha mo or get 1600 then just overclock it

you mean, if ill get AMD APU A10-5800K  I'd rather buy additional RAM instead of VC? but I have 32" LEDTV and i'd like use the HDMI function of a gpu so if bbli ako ng VC ano massugest mo aside from the AMD RADEON 6670 that Kenji suggested? thanks.

thanks for your honest inputs Kenji and Master, kating kati na ko bumili hehe baka bukas ako punta gilmore to qoute the prices you all suggested.   

[MasterChief63]

ok linawin lang natin


APU = Advanced Processing Unit = CPU + IGP on one DIE
IGP =  Integrated graphics processors

1) AMD A8 and A10 APU is only comparable to an i5 but both APUs BEAT the i5 and i7 PAG WALANG VIDEO CARD since the 7640D and 7660D on both APUs beat the HD4000 EVERY TIME thats Onboard Intel Motherboard, the only IGP GPU that matches the 7000 series on the APUs are the HD4600 BUT thats only found in the HIGHEST END 4th Gen Intel Core i7 that costs around $1000

this means that buying an A8 or A10 APU YOU DO NOT NEED TO BUY A VIDCARD unless

you plan to play games constatly on HIGH and VERY HIGH Settings becuase the 7000 can only be pushed to Medium(always) and High(on specific settings)

this means not having a dedicated vidcard lowers the Cost of your build by around P5000-P6000 and your power consumtion lowered since you have no physical video card that needs its own power

2) the 6670 was suggested by kenji because it is the ONLY video card that can DUAL Graphics mode with the APU IGP, Dual Graphics is explained here

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6tBPYbADg[/youtube]

3) you will still get Better Graphics when you get a Video Card thats higher than the 6670+7660D Dual setup like the 7770(mine is an MSI GHZ OC Version) that does not Dual Graphics mode with the IGP meaning nakaOFF ang APU IGP mo

4) as i said before getting a Dedicated Video Card means additional cost and power consumption with your build if you do plan to play constantly on High to Very high or even ULTRA settings

ALSO AMD APU can only use up to the Radeon HD 7800 Series and GTX 460, 560, and 660 series since going 7900 or 670 you will experience BOTTLENECKING meaning the Performance of the Video Card will be slowed by the LIMITATIONS of the APUs, hindi sila built for SUPER HIGHEND GAMING, they are more for what your looking for, Budget Midrange Gaming

an i5 and i7 or AMD FX Piledriver would be the ones used for super highend gaming

APU = Advanced Processing Unit = CPU + IGP on one DIE
IGP =  Integrated graphics processors

NERD ALERT!!! 

[leightot]

wow! iba ka tlga bro. Salamat sa explanation. later on this thread post ko yung current specs that I will buy but most likely would be the ones that you guys suggested. 

[MasterChief63]

if your gonna go Gilmore PC HUB bilan mo if CASH Basis ang payment, dun ko binili yung Silverstone case ko, they gave me the lowest price i could find

by NOV i plan to build a Low Power Mid Range Gaming HTPC and if i pull it off and all my theories about that build do pan out it will be an epic Kuripot Gamer Build hahaha 

[leightot]

if your gonna go Gilmore PC HUB bilan mo if CASH Basis ang payment, dun ko binili yung Silverstone case ko, they gave me the lowest price i could find

by NOV i plan to build a Low Power Mid Range Gaming HTPC and if i pull it off and all my theories about that build do pan out it will be an epic Kuripot Gamer Build hahaha 

bro credit card . magkano budget mo sa kuripot gamer build? haha

[kenji_kulet]

i do also have the kuripot build 

i3-2105 lang akin pair with ASUS 1gb HD7770 + 8gb 1866mhz Patriot Viper ram

i spend $800 wala pang tax 

[MasterChief63]

ahahaha sakin $480+tax hehehe pero no video card yun, totally dependent on the APU IGP but its an ITX build hehe

the PC CASE HAS NO ROOM FOR VIDEO CARD so totally dependent ang system sa APU IGP or whatever IGP the build has on an ITX Form Factor

[kenji_kulet]

ahahaha sakin $480+tax hehehe pero no video card un, totally dependent on the APU IGP but its an ITX build hehe

  grabe sobrang tipid

[leightot]

OT btw mga bro, yung Carbon na yun sa CPU na post ni kenji. sitcker lang yun. 600 per yard sa banawe.

[leightot]

up ko lang kenji and master, regarding RAM, im planning to buy 4gb muna and later upgrade to 8gb. should I buy 1x2gb = 4gb 1866 mhz.
or ok lang 4gb 1600mhz?

like this photo below.

[MasterChief63]

up ko lang kenji and master, regarding RAM, im planning to buy 4gb muna and later upgrade to 8gb. should I buy 1x2gb = 4gb 1866 mhz.
or ok lang 4gb 1600mhz?

like this photo below.

NO. get 1x4gb NOW and another 4gb later if you do plan to get a total of 8gb

2x2gb is faster than 1x4gb(because of DUAL CHANNEL TECH) BUT 2x4gb is faster than 4x2gb

get the fastest ram you can get if your have the money, for future proofing on Motherboards, i have 2x2gb 1600 Ram but my Mobo only uses 1333 meaning my Ram is underclocked which isnt much of an issue since i can use my motherboards OC feature to allow 1600 or even OC the Ram to 2133 but i dont Overclock hahaha or of i can get a MoBo that natively supports 1600 then im good

[leightot]

NO. get 1x4gb NOW and another 4gb later if you do plan to get a total of 8gb

2x2gb is faster than 1x4gb(because of DUAL CHANNEL TECH) BUT 2x4gb is faster than 4x2gb

get the fastest ram you can get if your have the money, for future proofing on Motherboards, i have 2x2gb 1600 Ram but my Mobo only uses 1333 meaning my Ram is underclocked which isnt much of an issue since i can use my motherboards OC feature to allow 1600 or even OC the Ram to 2133 but i dont Overclock hahaha or of i can get a MoBo that natively supports 1600 then im good

pero the the decent yet cheap 1x4gb ive found is 1600mhz only, ok lang ba yun? the 1x4gb 1866mhz that requires by a10 5800k pro is really expensive like almost 5kpesos na haha.. is it alright na i can add another 1600 later? sorry noob question. 

[MasterChief63]

pero the the decent yet cheap 1x4gb ive found is 1600mhz only, ok lang ba yun? the 1x4gb 1866mhz that requires by a10 5800k pro is really expensive like almost 5kpesos na haha.. is it alright na i can add another 1600 later? sorry noob question. 

RAM is Motherboard dependent not CPU dependent when it comes to compatibility, like mine, Stock supported ng akin 1333 lang but my memory is 1600, A10 5800k supports 1333, 1600, 1866 and 2133 but that will depend on the board you get kung supported nya and speed or you need to OC to allow that speed so get whatever speed you can afford

also make sure to get the SAME SPEED RAM para normal ang DUAL CHANNEL SCALING meaning PANTAY walng mas mabilis at mabagal

kaya ko lang sinabi get the fastest RAM is if you DONT GET A VIDEO CARD kasi the 7660D na APU IGP na nasa CPU ng A10 utilizes RAM from your SYSTEM MEMORY, diba ang Video Cards may 512mb  or 1gb or 2gb or 3gb? may memory na sila so either di nila galawin or kumuha sila ng konti memory sa System Memory while the APUs get ALL GRAPHICS MEMORY from the System Memory so the Faster the RAM you have the BETTER the Graphics on your games

[kenji_kulet]

tama si chief  get the 1X4gb now and get the other half later kung running low ka na po

you also can get 1600mhz ram , ano na mga parts na nabili mo?

[Pierro7]

my eyes are sparkling as I read your comments.
ang dami kong natutunan.
♥_♥

umepal lang po. pasensya.

[kenji_kulet]

my eyes are sparkling as I read your comments.
ang dami kong natutunan.
♥_♥

umepal lang po. pasensya.

no bro walang taong epal sa gusto matuto  cheers to you!