Topic: PH plans to purchase Missile Launchers

[Adonai]

Amid rising tensions over territorial disputes with China in the West Philippine Sea, the government is planning to buy anti-aircraft guided missiles from Israel, reliable sources told the Manila Standard Friday.

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the surface-to-air missiles or multiple launch rocket systems were being offered by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd. and Israel Military Industries Ltd., both based in Israel.

“SAMs and MLRS are mobile anti-aircraft weapons designed against jet fighters,” the source said, adding that these had been suggested some time ago but had not been taken seriously because the defense establishment had no interest in investing at the time.

“Now, here comes the territorial dispute in the West Philippine Sea, and at last they’ve opened their eyes,” the source added.

Another source said Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin was planning to go to Israel next week to forge an agreement with the prospective suppliers.

“If you have an agreement this would hasten the procurement process, say in three to six months you would already have the weapons. The agreement gives you the leeway to access all the information you want know about a particular weapon you want to procure,” the source said.

Manila Standard tried to reach Defense Undersecretary Fernando Manalo and spokesman Peter Paul Galvez for confirmation, but both did not return calls or answer text messages.

In his first year in office, President Benigno Aquino III had released P75 billion to fund the upgrading of the military’s capability through the procurement of ships and aircraft.

Gazmin then said they had some 138 big-ticket defense items that were being considered on a government-to-government procurement basis.

Part of this buildup was the recent procurement of the BRP Ramon Alcaraz, a rehabilitated US Coast Guard cutter introduced in the 1960s.

The refurbished cutter, procured for will be the country’s most modern warship and is expected to arrive in July or August.

But Senator Gregorio Honasan seemed unimpressed with the extent of help offered by the United States, and called for a review of the US Visiting Forces Agreement and the Mutual Defense Treaty, which he described as useless.

“We are not getting anything out of it. We have many international economic, military and security arrangements with other nations but why did they not say anything while the Scarborough Shoal standoff was heating up?” said the former Army colonel.

Because of this, Honasan said the country should abrogate all treaties that do nothing to help the country.

At the same time, however, he said a joint fishing agreement with Taiwan would be beneficial because it would afford protection to fishermen from both countries.

His remarks follow the May 9 fatal shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman by Philippine Coast Guard personnel in the Balintang Channel that soured relations between Taiwan and the Philippines.

Also on Friday, the Foreign Affairs Department said it welcomed the filing of a resolution in the US Senate in support of a peaceful resolution to territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

“We understand that the resolution has yet to undergo the necessary congressional process before it is passed by the US Senate, nonetheless, we extend our appreciation on the mere fact that some US senators have deigned it necessary to express their views on a fundamental issue that affects the peace and stability of the Asia-Pacific region,” the department said in a statement.

“The Philippines especially appreciates the reaffirmation of the peaceful resolution of disputes, including through arbitration; its condemnation of the use of threat or use of force; its recognition of the significance of the role of ASEAN and of the code of conduct; and its support for the ongoing and deepening efforts of the US in the region relating to ensuring freedom of navigation, maintenance of peace and stability, and respect for universally recognized principles of international law.” With Macon Ramos-Araneta

Source: http://manilastandardtoday.com/2013/06/15/ph-plans-to-tap-israel-for-missile-launchers/

[Kurimasu]

Magandang plano yan. Sana nga lang, maging totoo. Sana nga lang hindi lang puro plano...

[gkhan]

Not to denigrate the efforts of Senyor Gas but does anyone really think that the US will allow that? With the Philippines having a missile system will tilt the balance of power in Southeast Asia. Surely, the US will press its allies not to sell any missile system to the country.  The only alternative would be for the country to acquire such missile systems from Russia.  Anyway, Russia owns the most advanced missile system, the S-300 which the US is requesting Russia not to sell to Syria and Iran.  Even Israel knows that their missile system is no match for the Russians.

[tigerwing]

Not to denigrate the efforts of Senyor Gas but does anyone really think that the US will allow that? With the Philippines having a missile system will tilt the balance of power in Southeast Asia. Surely, the US will press its allies not to sell any missile system to the country.  The only alternative would be for the country to acquire such missile systems from Russia.  Anyway, Russia owns the most advanced missile system, the S-300 which the US is requesting Russia not to sell to Syria and Iran.  Even Israel knows that their missile system is no match for the Russians.

Why would it tilt the balance of power? Every country in the region except the philippines opperate SAMs and other missile systems. Also, its not like we are getting the most advance weapons. We can get one anytime as long as we can pay for it.

[watdapakensyet]

sana hindi lng sa isang pangarap to..

[pspyrock]

This is really nice to know.
Sana ituloy ito ng mga susunod na pangulo ng bansa, if we can't go toe to toe against our aggressors, we might as well build up our own "iron dome." Yun nga lang delikado pa din tayo sa ICBM pero this planned acquisition of SAMs and MLRS is a very good start for our country.
 

Hindi na masyadong nakikinig ang Israel sa US, kahit ayaw ng US ibenta yan, papayag ang Israel dyan kasi kita ng kompanya nila yan. Bumili na lang din ng Patriot sa Raytheon US para hindi na kumontra. Yung pagbili sa Russia ang malabong mangyari, strong ally ng China ang Russia, mas malabong makabili tayo dyan.

[clickaway]

Not to denigrate the efforts of Senyor Gas but does anyone really think that the US will allow that? With the Philippines having a missile system will tilt the balance of power in Southeast Asia. Surely, the US will press its allies not to sell any missile system to the country.  The only alternative would be for the country to acquire such missile systems from Russia.  Anyway, Russia owns the most advanced missile system, the S-300 which the US is requesting Russia not to sell to Syria and Iran.  Even Israel knows that their missile system is no match for the Russians.

SAMs lang naman yan hindi naman kaya makarating ng ibang country yung mga rockets na yan.. ang yaw lang ng US yan yung mag karoon ng Rocket na may nuclear weapon..

[walaangay]

I think the trip of Sec. Voltaire Gazmin is well-advised and is the right direction. Israel has perfected its missies system, specially its surface to air missiles as defense measure in the middle east. Maganda technology specially sa defense system kaya nga si sya kayang i bully ng mga neighbors nya.

Israel can also be a reliable partner and supllier. I am sure they will support PH. Remember, napakalaki ng utang na loob ng Israel sa PH. One is yung support natin sa mga Jew ng world war II and the other yung sa support sa declaration ng state of Israel. Kinikilala at tinatanaw ng utang ng loob yan ng Israel. Kaya even na napaka higpit ng Israel sa visa, they dont require pre visa o kaya entry visa na lg pag Filipino ka.

Moreover, galit ang Israel sa China and Russia kasi supplier sila ng mga armas sa Middle East. kaya, I a sure we can get better terms sa Israel and certainly they have an advance missiles system.

Cheers!

[CHILO20]

sana hindi baby rocket

[praeto_RYAN]

military capabilities upgrade - NICE.  however, given that such upgrades are far and few, i am hoping that they are placed and positioned strategically so as not to be rendered useless when tension escalates and the need for them arises.  given their number and our country's wide area, i do hope it is "spread" such that it doesn't appear like we are putting all our eggs in one basket.  i am sure countries who have intentions of "confronting" us will study our defense system and such HARDWARE will be first in their target list.  KNOW THY ENEMY ika nga.   

TS, any info as to what exactly will be purchased?

[mocker]

Plano pa lang sa inyo giyera na agad?? Sobra nio namang advance... Maraming magagaling na Pinoy kung tutuusin ang makakadevelop ng mga ganyang armas if and only if may support galing sa gobyerno.. ang mali lang kasi kapag magaling na ang Pinoy sa mga bagay-bagay at kumuha na ng support sa gobyerno ayun walang napala kaya ibang bansa ang nakikinabang.... Hay!!!
 
 

[tigerwing]

Plano pa lang sa inyo giyera na agad?? Sobra nio namang advance... Maraming magagaling na Pinoy kung tutuusin ang makakadevelop ng mga ganyang armas if and only if may support galing sa gobyerno.. ang mali lang kasi kapag magaling na ang Pinoy sa mga bagay-bagay at kumuha na ng support sa gobyerno ayun walang napala kaya ibang bansa ang nakikinabang.... Hay!!!
 
 

Kahit pa gaano kadami at kahusay ang magagaling na pinoy at kahit na suportahan pa sila ng gobyerno, you should understand that developing indigenous military capabilities is no easy task. Ang dami ko nakikitang comment sa mga forums/social network saying that we should develop our own military hardware instead of buying from other countries. As if naman ganun yun kadali eh noh? Ever wonder why other more "progresive" countries still opt to acquire majority if not all of their military hardware from other nations instead of developing their own? Kung madali lang gumawa ng ganyan eh di sana lahat ng bansa eh indigenous ang military.

Yes possible nga na mag develop tayo ng sarili natin given enough funding. But only if your strategy is for the Philippines to have such capabilities after several decades. Thing is, we need it NOW.

[beaverjohn2006]

magandang plan iyan, mag-imbak ng PANG DEPENSA at iwasan ang kurakot.... at nang dumami naman mga GADGET natin sa AFP....  +1 ako diyan

[ninja_cloack]

magandang idea. wag lang sana maisipan ng magagaling na corrupt Heneral na ibenta sa kalaban, malay mo yung abu sayaff meron na din nyan..

[Idiot]

Plano pa lang sa inyo giyera na agad?? Sobra nio namang advance... Maraming magagaling na Pinoy kung tutuusin ang makakadevelop ng mga ganyang armas if and only if may support galing sa gobyerno.. ang mali lang kasi kapag magaling na ang Pinoy sa mga bagay-bagay at kumuha na ng support sa gobyerno ayun walang napala kaya ibang bansa ang nakikinabang.... Hay!!!

ha ha ah ah ahah

sabi nga ng ibang poster hindi biro ang R and D sa military

USA along invest billions of billions of dollars para sa weapon development dollar yan F-35 nga nagkaroon ng issue sa sobrang mahal ng development budget

may metallurgy pa yan

yung ibang aircraft ng ibang bansa gumagamit ng titanium na pagkamahl mahal

Not to denigrate the efforts of Senyor Gas but does anyone really think that the US will allow that? With the Philippines having a missile system will tilt the balance of power in Southeast Asia. Surely, the US will press its allies not to sell any missile system to the country.  The only alternative would be for the country to acquire such missile systems from Russia.  Anyway, Russia owns the most advanced missile system, the S-300 which the US is requesting Russia not to sell to Syria and Iran.  Even Israel knows that their missile system is no match for the Russians[/quote

for short range defenses lang naman e hindi naman long range missiles na atatakihin ang beijing baka magalit siguro ang US kung puro ICBM ang binibili ng pinas like Cuba noon panahon ni JFK na puro nuclear weapons


back to topic okay yan kase sa mga helicopter at aircraft na may limit ang mga pyesa

[mocker]

Kahit pa gaano kadami at kahusay ang magagaling na pinoy at kahit na suportahan pa sila ng gobyerno, you should understand that developing indigenous military capabilities is no easy task. Ang dami ko nakikitang comment sa mga forums/social network saying that we should develop our own military hardware instead of buying from other countries. As if naman ganun yun kadali eh noh? Ever wonder why other more "progresive" countries still opt to acquire majority if not all of their military hardware from other nations instead of developing their own? Kung madali lang gumawa ng ganyan eh di sana lahat ng bansa eh indigenous ang military.

Yes possible nga na mag develop tayo ng sarili natin given enough funding. But only if your strategy is for the Philippines to have such capabilities after several decades. Thing is, we need it NOW.

As in we need it now na?? grabe naman di pa naman cguro magkagiyera. At sabi mo indigenous?? para lang ba gawa yan sa kawayan??  the point here is kung noon pa may upgrading na as AFP at kung di sana kinurakot ang pera di cguro lousy in terms sa mga armas pandigma. Alam mo sir if you don't mind basta may sapat na pera lang na inilalaan na kayang makagawa ng ganun ka advance na military defense ay malamang baka sa atin pa sila bumili kasi basta Pilipino ay magagaling at saludo aq don..

[tigerwing]

As in we need it now na?? grabe naman di pa naman cguro magkagiyera. At sabi mo indigenous?? para lang ba gawa yan sa kawayan??  the point here is kung noon pa may upgrading na as AFP at kung di sana kinurakot ang pera di cguro lousy in terms sa mga armas pandigma. Alam mo sir if you don't mind basta may sapat na pera lang na inilalaan na kayang makagawa ng ganun ka advance na military defense ay malamang baka sa atin pa sila bumili kasi basta Pilipino ay magagaling at saludo aq don..

But the FACT is. Ngayon lang nag sisimula mag upgrade ang AFP. No need to dwell on the past.. nakurakot na ang pera at napag iwanan na ang pinas. So pano na? Ngayon pa tayo mag sisimula ng sarili nating project? Sir, baka hindi mo alam na decada ang binibilang at bilyon-bilyong dolyar ang inuubos para sa development ng ganyang bagay. Kelan mo pa gusto mag karoon ng missile system ang pinas? after 20yrs?? 

Unless nalang po kung may kilala kayo na real life "TONY STARK" sa Pinas. 


Yes, we need it now. Ngayon na kabikabila ang pang bubully na tinatamasa ng pinas. Inagaw na ng China ang Bajo de Masinloc. Yung Taiwanese nag conduct ng Naval Excercise malapt sa Batanes. All because they know we cant do anything about it. And in case hindi mo parin naiintindihan. Sir, didiretsohin ko na, wala po kakayahan ang militar natin na proteksyonan ang interes/teritoryo ng pilipinas. Kaya po kailangan na natin silang bigyan ng kakayahan. Ngayon at hindi 20yrs from now..

[clickaway]

dag dag ko lang.. protection din yan natin sa air space ng philippines.. kung sinu sinu ang dumadaan sa air space natin. hindi man lang sila natatakot kasi alam nila wala naman mag yayari sa kanila pag dumaan sila sa air space natin.