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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2011, 09:53:10 pm »
ganito kaya hitsura nila?

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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2011, 05:05:02 am »
Even NASA Administrator "believes" in the possibility of alien life.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4UAGEN8vM[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4UAGEN8vM
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 05:18:46 am »
we may say that there are alien life is true. but we can't say that they have the same composition as us.
I mean, they have different biological structures compared to what we have here on Earth.

do you think discoveries such as these are near?
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 05:23:08 am »
Ang problema kasi yung evidence talaga na paniniwalaan ng lahat lalo na ng mga scientists.
Wala pa kasi talagang evidence na tanggap ng lahat or ng majority ng mga scientists/experts.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2011, 05:36:05 am »
Quote from: pspyrock on March 26, 2011, 05:23:08 am
Ang problema kasi yung evidence talaga na paniniwalaan ng lahat lalo na ng mga scientists.
Wala pa kasi talagang evidence na tanggap ng lahat or ng majority ng mga scientists/experts.
yun ang problema. no convincing evidence yet. sa technology na meron tayo ngayon, mahirap talaga.
pero pano naman yung mga so called 'proof' or 'evidence' na naririto na sa Earth?
maraming ayaw maniwala, dahil na rin sa kakulangan ng detail. or dahil sarado na ang isip ng ilan.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2011, 03:18:55 am »
Quote from: pspyrock on March 26, 2011, 05:05:02 am
Even NASA Administrator "believes" in the possibility of alien life.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4UAGEN8vM[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4UAGEN8vM

Pinanuod ko yan.. siguro nga sa lawak ba naman ng universe eh.. hindi kaya mas hi-tech sila? ???
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2011, 11:51:24 pm »
Quote from: xan6li on March 27, 2011, 03:18:55 am
Pinanuod ko yan.. siguro nga sa lawak ba naman ng universe eh.. hindi kaya mas hi-tech sila? ???

it could be the other way around as well. remember that Europa, one of Jupiter's many moon is harboring liquid water with vistrocity that can possibly form microbial organisms.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2011, 11:55:50 pm »
Quote from: LuCiel07 on March 26, 2011, 05:36:05 am
yun ang problema. no convincing evidence yet. sa technology na meron tayo ngayon, mahirap talaga.
pero pano naman yung mga so called 'proof' or 'evidence' na naririto na sa Earth?
maraming ayaw maniwala, dahil na rin sa kakulangan ng detail. or dahil sarado na ang isip ng ilan.

if a panspermia theory is true, then we are the aliens ourselves. or may have formed from an alien sedimentary derivatives.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2011, 12:02:12 am »
by alien we mean living organism and life forms coming outside from a planetary habitat in question.

by the definition, the alien is ME and YOU, and everyone else. take note that millions of years ago, earth is a highly sterile place. chemical compounds necessary for life to evolve came from meteorites. yes, the strayed meteorite carry in itself nucleic acid essential for the building blocks of life like RNA and DNA, chemicals including amino acid glycine, carboxylic acid, and some precursors to sugar.

these elements should not have came form earth. our minerals' formation tend tend to be catalyzed by different biomolecule, thus they end up separated and less likely to form life.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2011, 11:53:17 am »
loving this topic.

watch the videos from this thread Espiya > Area 51 > ancient aliens

the author of the book "Chariot of the Gods" states that there already proofs here on Earth. but not all people are open minded to accept the theory.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2011, 02:58:10 pm »
Quote from: LuCiel07 on May 21, 2011, 11:53:17 am
loving this topic.

watch the videos from this thread Espiya > Area 51 > ancient aliens

the author of the book "Chariot of the Gods" states that there already proofs here on Earth. but not all people are open minded to accept the theory.

Seigneur LuCiel, you might find this article interesting. The author offers an intelligent counter-argument to
Erich von Daniken's claims of ancient astronauts visiting Earth.

http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id26.html

Von Daniken and his fellow ancient astronaut theorists are an entertaining lot, I must admit, but they haven't quite convinced me of the truth of their claims.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2011, 12:28:33 pm »
Quote from: BlueAlphaZero on May 23, 2011, 02:58:10 pm
Seigneur LuCiel, you might find this article interesting. The author offers an intelligent counter-argument to
Erich von Daniken's claims of ancient astronauts visiting Earth.

http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id26.html

Von Daniken and his fellow ancient astronaut theorists are an entertaining lot, I must admit, but they haven't quite convinced me of the truth of their claims.

whoa! H.P. Lovecraft. i'm not a fan or something, but he's an interesting author. This is a good reading indeed.  toast::
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2011, 11:58:56 pm »
The best evidence of Extraterrestrials is that it has not tried to contact us.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2011, 05:10:51 pm »
diba ung f117 bago lumatad sa persian gulf war akala ng tao UFO.....

anyway kung magbabasa tayo, me mga possibilities na me mga microorganisms sa Mars at sa Titan (isa sa mga moon ng Saturn) na laging sina sudgest ng mga researchers.... microbial life out there is literally considered alien life forms....

most of us do not believe the theory of evolution, but we can't deny the facts evolution has showed us ,, so if presence of microorganism out there is real, then who knows what will happen billions to probably octillion years from now?
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2011, 05:19:29 am »
Quote from: andromeda2010 on May 31, 2011, 11:58:56 pm
The best evidence of Extraterrestrials is that it has not tried to contact us.

why would they do. the thing about us, human beings, is that we are conceited enough to think that once we send out signals into the vastness of space, we expect ET to ping back their IP addresses and their location. absurd as it may seem, if they are way ahead our civilization in terms of intellectual advancement, it would be like an analogy between a colony of ants and a crowd of human beings. of course, ants had their method of communication that we don't intervene since we are of a different communication wavelength. much like ET and us. we are far too behind to perhaps some of the most advanced civilizations beyond exosolar planets, perhaps beyond our universe(or other multiverses). so let's not expect that they would intervene in our affairs.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2011, 05:29:50 am »
Quote from: raynier on June 14, 2011, 05:10:51 pm
diba ung f117 bago lumatad sa persian gulf war akala ng tao UFO.....

anyway kung magbabasa tayo, me mga possibilities na me mga microorganisms sa Mars at sa Titan (isa sa mga moon ng Saturn) na laging sina sudgest ng mga researchers.... microbial life out there is literally considered alien life forms....

most of us do not believe the theory of evolution, but we can't deny the facts evolution has showed us ,, so if presence of microorganism out there is real, then who knows what will happen billions to probably octillion years from now?

yeah, however if there are microbial life forms in Titan, it would be a lot like our extremophiles(microorganism that thrived in the most harshest geologic condition). Titan has seas of hydrocarbon, dense atmosphere, and a liquid methane. such life forms would inhale hydrogen instead of oxygen, react it with acetylene instead of glucose, and exhale methane instead of carbon dioxide.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2011, 05:32:35 am »
Quote from: raynier on June 14, 2011, 05:10:51 pm
diba ung f117 bago lumatad sa persian gulf war akala ng tao UFO.....

anyway kung magbabasa tayo, me mga possibilities na me mga microorganisms sa Mars at sa Titan (isa sa mga moon ng Saturn) na laging sina sudgest ng mga researchers.... microbial life out there is literally considered alien life forms....

most of us do not believe the theory of evolution, but we can't deny the facts evolution has showed us ,, so if presence of microorganism out there is real, then who knows what will happen billions to probably octillion years from now?

evolution is the most sound basis of our existence as complex DNA/RNA based life forms. hindi naman pwedeng bigla nalang tayong lumabas sa mga nabibiyak na kawayan. it has to be a long, complex process, from strometalites to phylum protozoa to what we are now.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2011, 05:40:56 am »
Quote from: maliksing_pagong on June 15, 2011, 05:32:35 am
evolution is the most sound basis of our existence as complex DNA/RNA based life forms. hindi naman pwedeng bigla nalang tayong lumabas sa mga nabibiyak na kawayan. it has to be a long, complex process, from strometalites to phylum protozoa to what we are now.
So you believe in Darwin's theory, I bet?
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2011, 05:41:54 am »
Quote from: maliksing_pagong on June 15, 2011, 05:29:50 am
yeah, however if there are microbial life forms in Titan, it would be a lot like our extremophiles(microorganism that thrived in the most harshest geologic condition). Titan has seas of hydrocarbon, dense atmosphere, and a liquid methane. such life forms would inhale hydrogen instead of oxygen, react it with acetylene instead of glucose, and exhale methane instead of carbon dioxide.
to make it simple, they are another lifeforms. different from humans. and as you've said, with different way of communication which we, humans, won't understand.

thus the word 'alien'.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2011, 06:12:14 am »
Quote from: phlamer on June 15, 2011, 05:40:56 am
So you believe in Darwin's theory, I bet?

Darwin's Natural Selection Theory is one, but there could be other evolutionary path one organism took, either gemmule shed off(as explained in the concept of pangenesis) or genetic drift.
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« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2011, 06:15:27 am »
Quote from: maliksing_pagong on June 15, 2011, 06:12:14 am
Darwin's Natural Selection Theory is one, but there could be other evolutionary path one organism took, either gemmule shed off(as explained in the concept of pangenesis) or genetic drift.
waw. ang dami pala. ... evolution lang ang alam ko... >,<
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« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2011, 06:19:18 am »
Quote from: maliksing_pagong on June 15, 2011, 06:12:14 am
Darwin's Natural Selection Theory is one, but there could be other evolutionary path one organism took, either gemmule shed off(as explained in the concept of pangenesis) or genetic drift.
Dude, where do you stumble your thoughts? This may come out as random but you might as well watch Fringe. It's one of my favorite tv shows. I mean, watch it.
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« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2011, 06:26:49 am »
Quote from: phlamer on June 15, 2011, 06:19:18 am
Dude, where do you stumble your thoughts? This may come out as random but you might as well watch Fringe. It's one of my favorite tv shows. I mean, watch it.

dude, i am an astrophysicist. this is what i do for a living. i do scientific research, dish out lectures to science communities and academic institutions. i regularly contribute NASA journals. no disrespect, but the thing about Fringe is that is it is not science. at least not yet. it is essentially just a suggestive approach towards scientific study beyond maintream scientific discipline.
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« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2011, 06:38:15 am »
Quote from: maliksing_pagong on June 15, 2011, 06:26:49 am
dude, i am an astrophysicist. this is what i do for a living. i do scientific research, dish out lectures to science communities and academic institutions. i regularly contribute NASA journals. no disrespect, but the thing about Fringe is that is it is not science. at least not yet. it is essentially just a suggestive approach towards scientific study beyond maintream scientific discipline.
You got me curious there. So what's your ethnicity? And where did you study? Sorry for my questions.

Anyway, yes I know that Fringe is merely a Science. But I was telling you about the show.
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Re: Are we ALONE?
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2011, 06:51:59 am »
Quote from: phlamer on June 15, 2011, 06:38:15 am
You got me curious there. So what's your ethnicity? And where did you study? Sorry for my questions.

Anyway, yes I know that Fringe is merely a Science. But I was telling you about the show.

i am a filipino, but i couldn't deny that sometimes i get racial oppression from my field of work. i studied at Kavli Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics, Beijing, China.
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