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AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm

MANILA, Philippines - A student of the Ateneo de Manila University reaped criticism from Filipino netizens after writing a column that described the Filipino language as "not the language of the learned."

The article "Language, learning, identity, privilege" was written by James Soriano for his iThink column and published in the Manila Bulletin website. Curiously, the article was inaccessible Friday afternoon but could still be found via Google cache.

The names James Soriano has also started trending in microblogging site Twitter, while links to his original post circulated on Facebook.

In his column, Soriano described English as the language of learning, having been raised in a home conducive to learning English. He said he learned to think in English and used the language to learn about numbers, equations and variables.

On the other hand, he said Filipino was the language of the streets and what "we used to speak to the people who washed our dishes."

Soriano said learning the Filipino language was practical because "it was how you spoke to the tindera when you went to the tindahan, what you used to tell your katulong that you had an utos, and how you texted manong when you needed 'sundo na.''"

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Here's the article (this was already removed / blocked by Manila Bulletin):

Language, learning, identity, privilege
Ithink
By JAMES SORIANO
August 24, 2011, 4:06am


MANILA, Philippines — English is the language of learning. I’ve known this since before I could go to school. As a toddler, my first study materials were a set of flash cards that my mother used to teach me the English alphabet.

My mother made home conducive to learning English: all my storybooks and coloring books were in English, and so were the cartoons I watched and the music I listened to. She required me to speak English at home. She even hired tutors to help me learn to read and write in English.

In school I learned to think in English. We used English to learn about numbers, equations and variables. With it we learned about observation and inference, the moon and the stars, monsoons and photosynthesis. With it we learned about shapes and colors, about meter and rhythm. I learned about God in English, and I prayed to Him in English.

Filipino, on the other hand, was always the ‘other’ subject — almost a special subject like PE or Home Economics, except that it was graded the same way as Science, Math, Religion, and English. My classmates and I used to complain about Filipino all the time. Filipino was a chore, like washing the dishes; it was not the language of learning. It was the language we used to speak to the people who washed our dishes.

We used to think learning Filipino was important because it was practical: Filipino was the language of the world outside the classroom. It was the language of the streets: it was how you spoke to the tindera when you went to the tindahan, what you used to tell your katulong that you had an utos, and how you texted manong when you needed “sundo na.”

These skills were required to survive in the outside world, because we are forced to relate with the tinderas and the manongs and the katulongs of this world. If we wanted to communicate to these people — or otherwise avoid being mugged on the jeepney — we needed to learn Filipino.

That being said though, I was proud of my proficiency with the language. Filipino was the language I used to speak with my cousins and uncles and grandparents in the province, so I never had much trouble reciting.

It was the reading and writing that was tedious and difficult. I spoke Filipino, but only when I was in a different world like the streets or the province; it did not come naturally to me. English was more natural; I read, wrote and thought in English. And so, in much of the same way that I learned German later on, I learned Filipino in terms of English. In this way I survived Filipino in high school, albeit with too many sentences that had the preposition ‘ay.’

It was really only in university that I began to grasp Filipino in terms of language and not just dialect. Filipino was not merely a peculiar variety of language, derived and continuously borrowing from the English and Spanish alphabets; it was its own system, with its own grammar, semantics, sounds, even symbols.

But more significantly, it was its own way of reading, writing, and thinking. There are ideas and concepts unique to Filipino that can never be translated into another. Try translating bayanihan, tagay, kilig or diskarte.

Only recently have I begun to grasp Filipino as the language of identity: the language of emotion, experience, and even of learning. And with this comes the realization that I do, in fact, smell worse than a malansang isda. My own language is foreign to me: I speak, think, read and write primarily in English. To borrow the terminology of Fr. Bulatao, I am a split-level Filipino.

But perhaps this is not so bad in a society of rotten beef and stinking fish. For while Filipino may be the language of identity, it is the language of the streets. It might have the capacity to be the language of learning, but it is not the language of the learned.

It is neither the language of the classroom and the laboratory, nor the language of the boardroom, the court room, or the operating room. It is not the language of privilege. I may be disconnected from my being Filipino, but with a tongue of privilege I will always have my connections.

So I have my education to thank for making English my mother language.

http://blogwatch.tv/2011/08/language-learning-identity-privilege-by-james-soriano/





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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 09:14:23 pm »
Maka isang sapak lang ako jan masaya nako.  >:(


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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 09:26:15 pm »
wala namang masama sa sinulat nya. totoo yung mga nakalagay dun kasi, mayaman sila lalo na kung half filipino ang dugo nya talagang english ang pagbabasehan nyang lenguahe. ako kasi yun din ang kinamulatan ko na english ang primary language when it comes to education but it is also emphasized that being Filipinos we have to learn and love our language.

There was a time pa nga during my school days in Letran na pag filipino subject bawal kang mag english ganun din sa english subject bawal mag tagalog. although ngayon eh puro tagalog na ang salita ko minsan na lang ako nag eenglish, pag kailangan lang. huwag tayong magalit sa kanya kasi tinangap naman nyang masahol pa sya sa malansang isda dahil hindi nya natutunang mahalin ang sariling wika.

sana walang magalit nagsasabi lang ako ng punto de vista ko or point of view in english.

peace o tama bang kapayapaan? or bati tayo?

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 09:33:24 pm »
kaya lang parang sobrang nalait naman ang ating wika, ang malayang pagpapahayag ay may kaakibat na responsibilidad,

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 09:39:50 pm »
What a fool, sobrang kitid ng utak.... Barilin na yan  gun::  gun::  gun::  gun::  gun::
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 09:47:31 pm »
llang taon na ba yan at ganyan mag-isip?
English is the language of the learned? And Filipino is the language of the streets?

Eh paano kung sa Japan ka nakatira? O sa isang first world na bansa maliban sa Amerika?

Magaling ka siguro sa English, pero kamusta ka naman sa ibang subjects. Kelan pa naging sukatan ang husay mo sa English para masabing intelektwal ka.

Suntukan na lang

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 09:50:56 pm »
the truth hurts and when it stares at us directly in the face we turn to violence,
why don't we dissect his statements and understand what he is saying and then
make things for the better.

we are a country without an identity because of our lack of appreciation for our culture and that includes our language.

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 09:51:38 pm »
james soriano pu@#$%^&*! mo! gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: gun:: james soriano
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 09:52:13 pm »
uu masakit man ung mga sinabi nya eh sariling opinyon nya yan...wala tayo magagawa...dito nga nirerespeto natin kanya kanyang opinyon eh...

wala tayo magagawa dyan kung yan talaga stand nya...


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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 09:57:38 pm »
English is our first language at home.  Pero hindi pinagkakaila ang matuto ng dialect natin.

Languages are just tools.  They are neutral, unassuming, and always accepts new things.  They bring people together.   toast::

Language is only vicious as it's wielder.  ::redalert

Eto ang ayaw ko dito sa Pilipnas.  Only in the Philippines.  

1.  Two kinds of Music:  Bakya (now known as "pang-masa) and Normal.
2.  Indifference to our own local dialect, adoration of ANY foreign language.  Basta foreign mas astig.  Kulang ng Pride sa sariling identity at culture.  Colonial mentality.

If he is really an honest-to-goodness Filipino academic then he should accept (or realize) there is a need to unify the people under a common tongue.  And if that means having two then by God, let us just accept and enjoy the good this would bring.

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 10:00:51 pm »
gawan na ng fun page yang ungas na yan  laffman::

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2011, 10:06:07 pm »
hindi kaya bumangon sa libingan si pareng Manuel L. Quezon nyan... ang bangis ng batang to... nag uumapaw ang pagmamahal sa bansang Pilipinas... ::pampam sana naman huwag na dumami ang ganyang mentalidad sa mga kabataan natin ngayon... nakakanginig ng laman at nakakadiklap ng paningin eh... or else i will make manong spank you...  ::lmao
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2011, 10:07:09 pm »


what a waste but then again its his opinion, crooked nga lang! tsk, tsk, tsk



AHS senior James Soriano is best Filipino high school debater







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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2011, 10:07:42 pm »
and i suppose one could use english everywhere in the planet (like in japan for instance)

seriously, that essay has a lot of fails to it  smoking::
pick an evil and live with it till the end.

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2011, 10:08:45 pm »
ano tingin mo sa mga tao sa labas di nakakaintindi ng english? u can ask manong to fetch u..u can buy someting and talk to tindera in english..and u can speak english to katulong also!! tado ka kala mo di ka nila maiintindihan?kala mo kaw lang marunong mag english!! dapat nga sayo binablock wala ka sense..  laffman::

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2011, 10:19:22 pm »
Trying hard gs2 magpasikat  :-[

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 10:23:34 pm »
ang masasabi ko lang e........
" PAHALAGAHAN MU NGAYUNG BUHAY MO! KUPAL" >:(

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2011, 10:28:26 pm »
    Ang pananaw ng batang yan ay bunga ng mga magulang at lipunan na kanyang ginagalawan. Mula sa mga elitista na hindi naghahangad na pataasin ang antas ng mga tao sa ibaba kungdi bagkus gamitin lamang na apakan para lamang sa kanilang pansariling pagyaman. Hindi natin sya maaaring sisihin dahil ultimo sa gobyerno ang mga pananalita ay english...sa lahat ng transaction...kapag ikaw ay gumamit ng filipino ay para ka nang aba..at halos ayaw paglingkuran..pero subukan mo na magenglish...sa opisina ng gobyerno..at tingnan ninyo...halos nagmamadali ang mga kawani na kayo'y paglingkuran. Kung noon pa pumayag ang Pilipinas na pasakop sa mga Amerikano malamang hindi tayo magkakaganito...sabi nga ni MANUEL L. Quezon sa kanyang talumpati noon "I would rather see the Philippines run like Hell by the Filipinos....rather than like Heaven by the Americans"...at sya nga ay nagkatotoo...at at pinatatakbo ng Gobyernong Demonyo at pinalalasap ang impiyerno satin.
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 10:35:25 pm »
sa marami ang tingin nila dito ay pang lalait lang, pero kung anu sinulat nya halos isang katotohanan. Masisis mo ba siya kung sa wikang Ingles siya sinanay. Napa ka sakit nga naman ang mga realidad na sinabi niya pero meron punto siya na pag labas mo sa tunay na buhay dito sa Pilipinas ang wikang Ingles ang na uuna na gamitin at mas inaalaman.
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 10:38:48 pm »
dapat bigyan yang kumag na yan ng persona non grata sa pinas. Paalisin na yan d2

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 10:46:31 pm »
totoo naman ang karamihan sa nabanggit nya sa kanyang essay.... medyo below the belt na nga lang ang ibang hirit nya! pero kung i intindihin natin sya sa mas malawak na pag iisip... english nga naman ang karaniwang gamit ng mga professionals, mapa pampubliko o pribadong tanggapan.

masakit lang talaga tanggapin ang katotohanan! :(

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2011, 10:58:55 pm »
buti sana if bagay sa mukha ng hinayupak na yan ang mg ingles = HINDI naman pala ei!
ganyan lg mukha nyan kala mo kung sino sya barilin na yan!

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2011, 11:29:20 pm »
ano raw baga. ala ey di ko baga maarok ang kanyang sinasabi eh.

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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2011, 11:53:14 pm »
Carlos Celdran *boom* sikat!
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Re: AdMU student's essay on Filipino language raises online firestorm
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2011, 11:56:43 pm »
siguro nga english ang language of the learned. I just hope marunong na din siya ng french (official language of international diplomacy), maybe latin (used to be science's and religion's official language) or siguro nga japanese (kasi sa japan, hindi big deal ang english), para masabing isa na siyang edukadong tao. And sana maisipan na din niya mag-apply ng U.S. visa. at sana pumasa siya sa interview with flying colors para dun na siya sa bansang ingles ang wika. Kasi nakakahiya naman kung magaling ka nga sa english e hindi ka naman makakuha ng visa. hehe! ano na lang kaya siya kung ganun?