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Son of Hamas founder, Mosab Hassan Yousef, gave a short interview last week to CNN regarding the true intentions of Hamas, explaining that while the destruction of Israel is certainly one of their goals, that a worldwide caliphate is their ultimate goal.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakxXN5Z-XI#t=27[/youtube]

http://therightscoop.com/son-of-hamas-founder-tells-cnn-the-true-intentions-of-hamas/

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 02:08:34 pm »
Isn't there another group that's already doing that?
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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 02:41:49 pm »
Isn't there another group that's already doing that?

the Palestenian? or the Isis?

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 03:19:27 pm »
That's why I have my full support for Israel to eradicate this entities. Israel's objective is to bombard these areas where missile launchers are located I hope may ground operation na sila for that. Ang kawawa lang talaga ay ang mga civilians kasi HAMAS are well known to use civilians as their human shield kasi na doctrinize na sila nang ideology nang HAMAS. If you look on it kung hindi ka keen observer talagang you can judge Israel for inhumane actions kung ang babasehan mo lang ay ang mga lumalabas sa media. 

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2014, 04:29:30 pm »
That's why I have my full support for Israel to eradicate this entities. Israel's objective is to bombard these areas where missile launchers are located I hope may ground operation na sila for that. Ang kawawa lang talaga ay ang mga civilians kasi HAMAS are well known to use civilians as their human shield kasi na doctrinize na sila nang ideology nang HAMAS. If you look on it kung hindi ka keen observer talagang you can judge Israel for inhumane actions kung ang babasehan mo lang ay ang mga lumalabas sa media.

yup they use schools , hospitals and civilian homes as cover  smoking:: buti nalang Benjamin Netanyahu is willing to do everything to stop those fools

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 01:07:22 pm »
That's why I have my full support for Israel to eradicate this entities. Israel's objective is to bombard these areas where missile launchers are located I hope may ground operation na sila for that. Ang kawawa lang talaga ay ang mga civilians kasi HAMAS are well known to use civilians as their human shield kasi na doctrinize na sila nang ideology nang HAMAS. If you look on it kung hindi ka keen observer talagang you can judge Israel for inhumane actions kung ang babasehan mo lang ay ang mga lumalabas sa media.

Israel will not be able to put an end to Hamas by force of arms alone. They can use military might to put themselves in a position of strength at the negotiating table but if they cannot be patient enough to stay at the negotiating table to find a path towards peace together with Palestinians who want the same thing, there will always be a Hamas or another group like them.
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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 02:34:05 pm »
and one soldier has been taken during the Tunnel attacks , so Israel decline the cease fire that Obama wanted

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 04:29:47 pm »
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Israel will not be able to put an end to Hamas by force of arms alone. They can use military might to put themselves in a position of strength at the negotiating table but if they cannot be patient enough to stay at the negotiating table to find a path towards peace together with Palestinians who want the same thing, there will always be a Hamas or another group like them.

The thing here is, if you are Israel how can you negotiate with these people when everynight, hundreds of missiles are flying above your rooftop. How can you sleep thinking that you may not be able to wake up the following morning? Alot of negotiation and cease fire had been done from the past and these Hamas militia doesn't want a truce. They are traitors cloaked in their patriotic ideology. The only chance for peace and stability in the region is to eradicate this group. They want us to believe that Israel is doing mass execution pero hindi naman nagkulang ang Israel sa pag alarm at pag paalala sa public to stay away from targeted areas pero ayaw nilang makinig. Gusto nila palabasin na sila ang api. If you listen to both sides of the story, this video alone will tell you what's their real intentions now its up to the world to decide who to believe in. UN should take over dealing this century old conflict in the middle east.
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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 09:04:19 pm »
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The thing here is, if you are Israel how can you negotiate with these people when everynight, hundreds of missiles are flying above your rooftop. How can you sleep thinking that you may not be able to wake up the following morning? Alot of negotiation and cease fire had been done from the past and these Hamas militia doesn't want a truce. They are traitors cloaked in their patriotic ideology. The only chance for peace and stability in the region is to eradicate this group. They want us to believe that Israel is doing mass execution pero hindi naman nagkulang ang Israel sa pag alarm at pag paalala sa public to stay away from targeted areas pero ayaw nilang makinig. Gusto nila palabasin na sila ang api. If you listen to both sides of the story, this video alone will tell you what's their real intentions now its up to the world to decide who to believe in. UN should take over dealing this century old conflict in the middle east.

Hmm... 54 dead, no official count of wounded, out of which, they say 3 are civilians, although 1 of those 3 was delivering supplies to the army (and would have been identified as a combatant if he was doing the same for Hamas) vs. over 1400 dead, over 8,200 wounded, out of which, 80% are civilians. So yeah, please forgive them if they call killing over 1000 civilians a massacre.

Then, they'd justify that by telling the media that they call civilian homes and drop flyers before they begin bombing, as if Palestinians actually have a safe place to go to. They accuse Hamas of setting up in residential areas, and yet they conveniently leave out the fact that they've bombed to the ground every Hamas' military installation/training camp that the group had setup in the past.

Hamas has been clear that they refuse ceasefire that doesn't guarantee the lifting of Israel and Egypt's blockade and yet Israel wants to paint them as 'opposed to any ceasefire' when at the same time, they wouldn't agree to any ceasefire that stops them from blowing up Gaza tunnels. They'd accuse Hamas of breaking the ceasefire, because they expect the militants guarding tunnels to just roll over and die without fighting when their troops arrive to destroy them.

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2014, 12:50:36 am »
Hmm... 54 dead, no official count of wounded, out of which, they say 3 are civilians, although 1 of those 3 was delivering supplies to the army (and would have been identified as a combatant if he was doing the same for Hamas) vs. over 1400 dead, over 8,200 wounded, out of which, 80% are civilians. So yeah, please forgive them if they call killing over 1000 civilians a massacre.

Then, they'd justify that by telling the media that they call civilian homes and drop flyers before they begin bombing, as if Palestinians actually have a safe place to go to. They accuse Hamas of setting up in residential areas, and yet they conveniently leave out the fact that they've bombed to the ground every Hamas' military installation/training camp that the group had setup in the past.

Hamas has been clear that they refuse ceasefire that doesn't guarantee the lifting of Israel and Egypt's blockade and yet Israel wants to paint them as 'opposed to any ceasefire' when at the same time, they wouldn't agree to any ceasefire that stops them from blowing up Gaza tunnels. They'd accuse Hamas of breaking the ceasefire, because they expect the militants guarding tunnels to just roll over and die without fighting when their troops arrive to destroy them.

So, whats your point? Just let them pass through tunnels and spread terror to Israel? Let them fire missiles everynight and day to kill Israeli people. If you watch the video he clearly stated that Hamas doesn't give a damn about their civilians because for them dying is holy. They been feeding and brainwashing these people from day one to hate Israel and to die is a mission and paradise. Like I said, UN should take over the conflict. The whole world is watching. 

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2014, 01:28:52 am »
United Nation can't do anything in this war , and I think Geneva Convention didn't exist in this war

Uncle Sam can't Sanction Israel , guess who are the riches person in this Country (US) is? , Guess who's giving money for those Presidential Candidates?

and who's giving arsenals in Israel? even Uncle Sam bought some from Israel

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2014, 05:22:49 am »
So, whats your point? Just let them pass through tunnels and spread terror to Israel? Let them fire missiles everynight and day to kill Israeli people. If you watch the video he clearly stated that Hamas doesn't give a damn about their civilians because for them dying is holy. They been feeding and brainwashing these people from day one to hate Israel and to die is a mission and paradise. Like I said, UN should take over the conflict. The whole world is watching.

You just need to look at the headcount to see who's brainwashing who... I haven't even raised the issue of how Israel turned Gaza into essentially a prison camp and somehow can still act surprised that the people there hate them.

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2014, 10:29:56 am »
mga kapatid im sure matatalino kayo at marunong siguro kayo magresearch sa net, kaya saliksik muna tayo bago man lang magpost o mag-comment sa issue nato.

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5902177/9-questions-about-the-israel-palestine-conflict-you-were-too

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

----simple lang yan magaalburoto ka talaga pag.inagaw sayo ng kinupkop mu yung tahanan na pag.mamayari mu..
walang pinagkaiba yan sa galit natin sa china dahil inaagaw sa atin ang mga isla natin, ang pinagkaiba nga lang ng mga palestinian ay bumibuwis sila ng buhay para sa pinaglalababan nila

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2014, 01:36:27 pm »
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The thing here is, if you are Israel how can you negotiate with these people when everynight, hundreds of missiles are flying above your rooftop. How can you sleep thinking that you may not be able to wake up the following morning? Alot of negotiation and cease fire had been done from the past and these Hamas militia doesn't want a truce. They are traitors cloaked in their patriotic ideology. The only chance for peace and stability in the region is to eradicate this group. They want us to believe that Israel is doing mass execution pero hindi naman nagkulang ang Israel sa pag alarm at pag paalala sa public to stay away from targeted areas pero ayaw nilang makinig. Gusto nila palabasin na sila ang api. If you listen to both sides of the story, this video alone will tell you what's their real intentions now its up to the world to decide who to believe in. UN should take over dealing this century old conflict in the middle east.

That's why I said "Palestinians" and not "Hamas". Not every Palestinian is a member of Hamas and I'm fairly certain there are many among them who would like to be able to live in peace just as Israelis would like to live in peace.
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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2014, 02:03:25 pm »
That's why I said "Palestinians" and not "Hamas". Not every Palestinian is a member of Hamas and I'm fairly certain there are many among them who would like to be able to live in peace just as Israelis would like to live in peace.

If that is true, then how come Palestine as a nation allow these HAMAS militia group to operate in their lands if they want to live in peace? Would that mean that these militia is more powerful than their government? They could have done anything to control this terrorist putting their peoples lives in danger. In my opinion, Palestine is also accountable for this war. They allow this to happen unless ang gobyerno nila ay mga inutil ang nakaupo.
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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2014, 07:33:29 pm »
If that is true, then how come Palestine as a nation allow these HAMAS militia group to operate in their lands if they want to live in peace? Would that mean that these militia is more powerful than their government? They could have done anything to control this terrorist putting their peoples lives in danger. In my opinion, Palestine is also accountable for this war. They allow this to happen unless ang gobyerno nila ay mga inutil ang nakaupo.

to paraphrase what you posted:

then how come the philippines as a nation allow these MILF/MNLF/abu sayyaf militia groups to operate in mindanao if they want to live in peace? would that mean that these militia is more powerful than the government?

see how myopic your statement is?

yes, palestine as a whole is also responsible for the war. why not? they'd be either egyptians or jordanian refugees if they don't. you know how much land palestine holds compared to israel right? FYI israeli plans to expand, that's the only way to attract more jewish immigrants and increase their population enough to survive in the middle east. when that expansion is complete, it'll be much easier to wage war, cuz no arabs/muslims in their ranks. and it'll be back to nation vs nation, something which israel is good at(they are a nuclear power). but where does that leave the palestinians themselves?

dead or probably a refugee.

guys, lemme ask you a question: would you agree on japan invading korea again on the basis of the royal family is related to jumong's son? and thus the japanese have land rights on the korean peninsula because of that, even though that happened more than 1000 years ago?

i don't. and that's what the jews did after world war 2 in order to found the nation of israel. they were driven from their lands by the ROMANS nearly 2000 years ago. what RIGHT do they have to found the state of israel, terrorize the british(yes, they did. the brits were the colonial masters at that time), and displace the natives there (aka the palestinians of today)?

answer: HITLER

if the allies stopped hitler early on, there would be no holocaust. and no jewish mindset of "we're alone against the world" and no need for a rallying cry of zionism, which is the israel of today. and the counterpart of that rallying cry in muslims is the "worldwide presecutions" and jihad. if people hurt you, you get angry with the world. best way to USE those guys is with a rallying cry.

who is the victim here? who is the villain? both of them.

jews didn't get help against nazis. millions killed. founds the state of israel.

palestinians driven away from their lands, they fight back. nobody helps them. thousands killed. establishes jihad against israel.

palestinians resort to terrorist attacks, thousands killed. israel retaliates with military force, thousands killed.

it's just the victim turning into a victimizer.

the worldwide caliphate is just their version of the west's "new world order" and "globalization" and worldwide surveillance.  which is correct? which is wrong? i don't know. all i know is that they're both stupid and dangerous.

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2014, 12:53:43 am »
to paraphrase what you posted:

then how come the philippines as a nation allow these MILF/MNLF/abu sayyaf militia groups to operate in mindanao if they want to live in peace? would that mean that these militia is more powerful than the government?

see how myopic your statement is?

yes, palestine as a whole is also responsible for the war. why not? they'd be either egyptians or jordanian refugees if they don't. you know how much land palestine holds compared to israel right? FYI israeli plans to expand, that's the only way to attract more jewish immigrants and increase their population enough to survive in the middle east. when that expansion is complete, it'll be much easier to wage war, cuz no arabs/muslims in their ranks. and it'll be back to nation vs nation, something which israel is good at(they are a nuclear power). but where does that leave the palestinians themselves?

dead or probably a refugee.

guys, lemme ask you a question: would you agree on japan invading korea again on the basis of the royal family is related to jumong's son? and thus the japanese have land rights on the korean peninsula because of that, even though that happened more than 1000 years ago?

i don't. and that's what the jews did after world war 2 in order to found the nation of israel. they were driven from their lands by the ROMANS nearly 2000 years ago. what RIGHT do they have to found the state of israel, terrorize the british(yes, they did. the brits were the colonial masters at that time), and displace the natives there (aka the palestinians of today)?

answer: HITLER

if the allies stopped hitler early on, there would be no holocaust. and no jewish mindset of "we're alone against the world" and no need for a rallying cry of zionism, which is the israel of today. and the counterpart of that rallying cry in muslims is the "worldwide presecutions" and jihad. if people hurt you, you get angry with the world. best way to USE those guys is with a rallying cry.

who is the victim here? who is the villain? both of them.

jews didn't get help against nazis. millions killed. founds the state of israel.

palestinians driven away from their lands, they fight back. nobody helps them. thousands killed. establishes jihad against israel.

palestinians resort to terrorist attacks, thousands killed. israel retaliates with military force, thousands killed.

it's just the victim turning into a victimizer.

the worldwide caliphate is just their version of the west's "new world order" and "globalization" and worldwide surveillance.  which is correct? which is wrong? i don't know. all i know is that they're both stupid and dangerous.

Theres a big difference between what I said and what you pharaprased. Have you heard MNLF/MILF/BFF firing missiles to our neighboring country like Malaysia,Thailand,Taiwan or even the land grabber country which is China? The answer is none. You cannot compare our local conflict here in the Philippines to their conflict in the middle east. ::dontflame

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2014, 02:19:40 am »
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If that is true, then how come Palestine as a nation allow these HAMAS militia group to operate in their lands if they want to live in peace? Would that mean that these militia is more powerful than their government? They could have done anything to control this terrorist putting their peoples lives in danger. In my opinion, Palestine is also accountable for this war. They allow this to happen unless ang gobyerno nila ay mga inutil ang nakaupo.

Ang pagkakaalam ko dalawa ang power of authority sa palestine, Fatah who rules the west bank at Hamas who is the sovereign power in Gaza strip. Hamaz may have been categorized by the Israel, US, UK as terrorist pero in the eyes of the Palestinians (and a majority for that matter) they are the government in Gaza strip.

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Re: Son of Hamas founder tells CNN the true intentions of Hamas
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2014, 06:15:47 pm »
Theres a big difference between what I said and what you pharaprased. Have you heard MNLF/MILF/BFF firing missiles to our neighboring country like Malaysia,Thailand,Taiwan or even the land grabber country which is China? The answer is none. You cannot compare our local conflict here in the Philippines to their conflict in the middle east. ::dontflame

er....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Lahad_Datu_standoff

and as you said "you cannot compare our local conflict here in the philippines to their conflict in the middle east", well it's true. no other nation PHYSICALLY invaded mindanao, YET.

israel, "in the name of national security" did and still does go into the gaza strip.

just look at squatters' evictions in metro manila and you will see a small-scale reaction comparable to the palestinian response: outrage, physical clashes, lots of shouting and heckling, missiles flying in the form of rocks, bottle, slippers, etc. the palestinians are just well-armed enough compared to our squatters here. the thing is, if you look at history, who is the real squatter here? the israelites? or the palestinians?

at the same time, look at biblical history: the claim that israel OWNS the land is because GOD/YAHWEH told them so. they performed GENOCIDE on the inhabitants of the land in the case of the city jericho. only rahab was spared. why did they kill them all? simple: GOD/YAHWEH told them to.

look at the muslims today. why wage jihad? because GOD/ALLAH told them to.

how did both sides know that GOD wanted them to? i don't know. maybe somebody(a human) told them to...  ::laffman

see: IT'S THE SAME CASE. of stupid shit. the jews took israel because it was the "promised land" that YAHWEH gave them. how did they know? did YAHWEH appear in the 1940s and said to them that the land was theirs? and the current jihad? did ALLAH appeared to bin laden,etc. and told them to wage it?

both sides want something. their religion is just an excuse and a rallying point/recruiting drive.

if one chooses a side over the other, he gets the SAME CASE OF STUPID SHIT that both sides have. and that STUPID SHIT is: my side/allies/friends is/are right, you/yours are wrong; DIE MUTHAFUKKA!  gun::

see how stupid it is?

and different cases of STUPID SHIT is not limited to this case alone. inept and corrupt politicians, for example. that's why the point of my "paraphrasing" you is: why hold the palestinian authorities/politicians to a higher standard of controlling militia/insurgents compared to the local politicians here? they're both STUPID SHIT.