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Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« on: July 23, 2015, 06:30:23 am »

http://www.rappler.com/nation/100237-iglesia-cristo-help-hostage-sign

MANILA, Philippines – While the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) announced the expulsion of its leader's mother and brother, a cry for help came from a building owned by the powerful church in Tandang Sora, Quezon City.

Manalo family members crying out for help.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/527066/news/nation/manalo-clan-s-family-feud-becomes-public-as-iglesia-ni-cristo-marks-101st-year

"Saklolohan ninyo ang aking mga anak, si Angel at Lottie, at ang kanilang mga kasama," she pleaded. "Tulungan niyo rin ang mga ministro na dinukot, at hanggang ngayon ay di pa nakikita." - Mrs. Manalo



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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 06:37:30 am »
Ka Mcdo,are you here?  ;)

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 07:33:04 am »
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/707228/inc-minister-being-held-in-cavite-jail

Supt. Joseph Arguelles, the city chief, confirmed on Thursday that the police have Lowell Robasa Menorca II, 38, in their custody.

Menorca was arrested after he reportedly threatened two men with a live grenade.

“He appeared to be confused and seemed not to be in his right mind,”


I just watched TV news a few minutes ago. (forgot if it was ABS CBN or GMA). The report seemed to indicate that the police chief who currently has the minister in custody, is one of those people suggested by INC to take up that spot. So far no interviews of  Lowell Robasa Menorca II shown.

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 10:41:55 am »
Bago pa man magsimula ang replies, guys, be nice to each other.. toast:: ::dontflame

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 11:33:34 am »
if this is legit, then i hope that this can be settled in a good way...

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 11:48:06 am »
sad to see na ang family dispute ang magiging dahilan ng bad image ng INC...

para itiwalag mo ang nanay mo sa sarili nyong religious group, di ko magets... sorry sa kapatid natin sa Iglesia,pero di ko magets talaga. parang if you cannot accept the "fault" of your parents then how can you lead a flock . HIndi naman blasphemy ang pagsita or pagquestion sa pamamalakad? masyadong harsh ata yun pagtiwalag. although, syempre hindi ko din alam ang buong kwento... sa susunod na araw sana maging malinaw ang lahat...

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2015, 12:03:07 pm »
http://www.rappler.com/nation/100278-iglesia-ni-cristo-minister-denies-abduction?


Was Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) minister Lowell Menorca II abducted, as earlier reported by some church members?
A lawyer sent by INC to where Menorca is currently detained in Dasmariñas, Cavite, denied the report.
Allen Blair Boy said Menorca was neither “abducted” nor “kidnapped.”



Reports from some INC members, however, showed that Menorca was arrested in Sorsogon while he was leading church services. He is apparently identified with one faction in the Manalo family that is now squabbling.

Here's one thing that needs clarification IMO. "Why would Lowell Menorca II threaten bystanders with a grenade?" Taking note that the reports indicate that some INC members indicated that he was arrested in Sorsogon and then INC sent their own lawyer to attend to Mr. Menorca. One could not help but ask, is this a cover up?

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 01:52:39 pm »
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/527542/news/nation/angel-manalo-calls-for-vigil-slams-advisers-of-iglesia-ni-cristo-executive-minister

Manalo also said their is no abduction taking place in their housing compound.
 
"Wala dito. Ang abduction sa labas...May bata (kami) na kasama na nahihirapan...batang kasama na nagbibiro," he said.


pfffft.  So in short yung mga ministro lamang ang mga na abduct?


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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 08:29:35 pm »
Powerplay.....

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 09:07:41 pm »
may dinukot din daw ah.

tapos yung lugar na pinaglagyan sa kanya ay sa police station daw.

bawal na bang maglakad lakad ng may dalang granada sa pinas ngayon? napaka walang hiya ng mga kapulisan talaga.

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2015, 11:40:08 pm »
may dinukot din daw ah.

tapos yung lugar na pinaglagyan sa kanya ay sa police station daw.

bawal na bang maglakad lakad ng may dalang granada sa pinas ngayon? napaka walang hiya ng mga kapulisan talaga.

hindi lang po bawal. bawal na bawal po.  ::laffman
granada yan eh. di naman bato yan.
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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2015, 02:43:45 am »
may dinukot din daw ah.

tapos yung lugar na pinaglagyan sa kanya ay sa police station daw.

bawal na bang maglakad lakad ng may dalang granada sa pinas ngayon? napaka walang hiya ng mga kapulisan talaga.


kaylan naging legal mag dala ng granada sa pinas?

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2015, 04:36:59 am »
nagtataka lang ako dito kasi full blown hostage taking na pero rarely ka makakita ng pulis na involve? pati ba naman yan pinopolitika pa ng relihiyon.. delikado sana maayos agad

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2015, 06:26:13 am »
Marami akong tanong sa iglesia ni manalo, una: bakit iglesia ni cristo kung hindi naman nila tinuturing na diyos o anak ng diyos si kristo?

Bakit sa sampung utos ng iglesia ni cristo ikasampu nakasaad bawal tumiwalag sa iglesia ni kristo eh wala naman sa bible nito?

Bakit bible din naman ang ginagamit ng nyo eh gawang katoliko ito?

Bakit tawag nyo sa katoliko mga demonyo ayon sa pasugo nyo ibig ba sabihin nakikipagplastikan lng kayo sa mga non inc friends nyo, bkit kayo nag aaral catholic at apostolic schools at univ, pag namatay kayo sa catholic cementery bagsak nyo?

Bakit sinasaraduhan nyo ng pinto ang late na?

Bakit sisingilin nyo pa ang hindi nakapagbayad ng abuloy sa suaunod na simba?

Bakit puro picture ni manalo nasa bahay o walet nyo?

Bakit paninira sa katoliko sermon ng ministro nyo?

(INC) INIWAN NI CHRISBROWN

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2015, 07:02:40 am »
ang alam ko lang, somewhere somehow, may isang Bro Eli Soriano ang nakangiti ngayon sa nangyayare sa INC hehehe

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2015, 07:08:11 am »
hindi lang po bawal. bawal na bawal po.  ::laffman
granada yan eh. di naman bato yan.


kaylan naging legal mag dala ng granada sa pinas?



ay sorry nakalimutan ko lagyan neto /sarcasm

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2015, 07:15:48 am »
ayan nag away na mag pamilya dahil sa kapangyarihan at Abuloy/Handog ng mga miyembro nila...  ::laffman

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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2015, 07:25:48 am »
Marami akong tanong sa iglesia ni manalo, una: bakit iglesia ni cristo kung hindi naman nila tinuturing na diyos o anak ng diyos si kristo?

Bakit sa sampung utos ng iglesia ni cristo ikasampu nakasaad bawal tumiwalag sa iglesia ni kristo eh wala naman sa bible nito?

Bakit bible din naman ang ginagamit ng nyo eh gawang katoliko ito?

Bakit tawag nyo sa katoliko mga demonyo ayon sa pasugo nyo ibig ba sabihin nakikipagplastikan lng kayo sa mga non inc friends nyo, bkit kayo nag aaral catholic at apostolic schools at univ, pag namatay kayo sa catholic cementery bagsak nyo?

Bakit sinasaraduhan nyo ng pinto ang late na?

Bakit sisingilin nyo pa ang hindi nakapagbayad ng abuloy sa suaunod na simba?

Bakit puro picture ni manalo nasa bahay o walet nyo?

Bakit paninira sa katoliko sermon ng ministro nyo?

(INC) INIWAN NI CHRISBROWN


Umm.. I think it is best you make a separate thread about your questions. Also you might wanna' check kung meron ng similar na post. Oh wait.. Flame bait ba to'ng post na to? o__O

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2015, 07:26:20 am »
Paktay na wala nang Religion of the Devil malapit na magsara..nyahahah..Bakit sinabi nyo mga INc na kayo lang ang maliligtas? Paano ung mga sinaunang tao ng Biblia hindi mga INc un ibig sabihin sila Abraham at ibang propeta di din maliligtas? Paki explain..hahahaha..
Puro kasapi ng eglesia ne kristo ang mapupunta sa langit...'aba puro pilipino lng ang nandon?...'wahahaha

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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2015, 07:29:28 am »
Just want to add this bit. Ako lang ba ang nagtataka dun sa situation ni Lowel Menorca II? I mean, I haven't seen any reports that indicate kung ano motive nya dun sa grenade issue (I might have missed this bit or wala talaga).  Kasi I find it a bit weird na you would threaten bystanders with a grenade.

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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2015, 08:20:13 am »
things are really sketchy at this point. seems like INC is doing full blown damage control on whatever the incident is. yung about sa grenade issue, mukhang hindi naman totoo, there were even some initial reports na yung pulis na umaresto sa kanya is also INC member and was being considered to replace his post as minister

for sure this is an internal issue within INC but if things get out of hand (and from the looks of it it might be heading that way), then the government should step in. tulad nalang nung hostage taking issue, yung police na pumunta hindi raw pumasok sa loob to check kung totoo ba talaga yung hostage taking, kinausap lang outside sa gate. and the odd thing is, mukhang after all the talking outside the gate, ok na ang issue. shouldn't the police have ascertain kung totoo ba talaga yung hostage taking inside the house by going inside?

or baka totoo talaga yung ibang balita na yung sinasabing hostage taking was just a ploy to get sympathy for them and for their cause

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2015, 08:25:08 am »
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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2015, 08:40:18 am »
any religion na mayayaman namumuno, doubtful ako

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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2015, 10:08:25 am »
Bro. Eli Soriano is now laughing so hard very very hard

mga tol huwag na kayong magtaka kaya hinuli sya may granada kuno , faction faction lang yan magaling gumawa ng ganyan ang INC ng kwento kase powerful na sila

parang si puto yan na ni rape daw ni Bro. Eli na feature pa nga kay Arnold Clavio na naging dahilan bakit nawala ang QTV heheheheh bagsak ang rating

bakit hindi nabibigyan si mommy ng malaking handog at si angel
malapit pa naman ang election ngayon may bidding na magaganap dyan ang dami pa naman unused donations na worth billions of pesos na galing sa yolanda hehehehhe

We can see now two different factions of Iglesia ni Cristo and based sa history maraming mga empires at kingdoms ang nasira dahil sa mga factions factions lalo na may issue tiwalagan hehehhehehehe







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Re: Possible hostage situation in INC compound.
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2015, 11:37:49 am »
nalilito talaga ako dito... ano po ba ang ibig sabihin ng itiniwalag? kunwari ako, katoliko ako, pag tiniwalag ba ko ng katoliko hindi na ko pwedeng tawaging katoliko? sino ang may kapangyarihan para magtiawalag sakin? kunwari isang pare, sinabi itiniwalag na ko may mga proseso pa ba un?
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