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Espiya Newstand (Current Events, Classifieds, Events) => Current Discussions => Science and Technology => : Madarame Ikkaku November 26, 2009, 10:26:12 PM
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The Conspiracy Of The Century! Hackers Expose Global Warming Manipulated Data In Leaked Emails
Source: www.GutterUncensored.com
Climate-Gate exposed! Last week, hackers apparently from Russia published over 160mb of scientific emails, documents and source code taken from the primary "climate research unit," at the University of East Anglia, which is the center of UN/IPCC-promoted global warming alarmism. Now a picture emerges of a big funding scam to funnel hundreds billions of dollars for the purposes of an underlying international political agenda. It is being called the greatest scientific scandal of the modern age. The degree of collusion between big media, the UN, corporate executives, politicians and corrupt scientists involved is massive...
goto : http://gutteruncensorednewsl.blogspot.com/2009/11/conspiracy-of-century-hackers-expose.html
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can someone please summarize in two or three sentences what this manipulation of data is all about and what is its purpose? the article is hard to understand.
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...Oo Brad... Global Warming is a Hoax... d pa masayado ngigising mga tao sa totoo eh... watch mode lang ako....
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ah, okay. siguro katulad ito nong y2k. well, it was not a hoax, really, but a lot of people over reacted to it
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Panung hoax? Di ba pansin naman natin ang kakaibang climate ngayon...?bagyo, wild fire, and others
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can someone please summarize in two or three sentences what this manipulation of data is all about and what is its purpose? the article is hard to understand.
Scientist are actually manipulating their data to show that climate change is real and we are the ones causing it. What do they get from this? Funds at atbp.
@ codered
Coincidence lang...
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eh ramdam na natin ang effects ng global warming eh
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kahit naman di nila sabihin ang totoo,tayo rin mismo nakakaranas na ng malaking pagbabago ng panahon..hinding maintindihan klase ng panahon...etc etc..
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i think it means that, scientists are manipulating the data para mas lalong magmukhang nag-dedeteriorate ang earth. lalong umiinit. pinapalala nila ung picture para mas maging concerned ang mga tao.
pero what if they're doing this to prevent further abuse of the earth? di ba ok na din?
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scew the ones who started this.
very irresponsible. kahit ba hindi totoo hindi niyo ba mahal ang planeta natin at ang mga tao?
anu mas gusto niyo yung mausok na tambucho o yung sasakyang walang usok?
think again.
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Global warming hoax
tol maski ako ramdam ko ang pagiiba ng climate
bata pa ako signal number 3 1990's lang ang pinakamalakas na bagyo
ngayon e may signal number 4 na at super typhoon pa
so hoax ba yan
sinabi na ng mga scientist na kapag uminit ang mundo mas mabilis mag-evaporate ang tubig resulting to a super typhoon kahit humingi sila ng funds ano ang magagawa nila
tayo nga may capability tayo sa Biodiesel pero bakit hindi nila ginagawa
may capability tayo sa wind energy na nasa ilocos pero hindi nila pinapalawak
nag-introduce ang germany ng magnetic powered train at mas mabilis pa sa bullet train pero hindi na-accept ng america tanging China lang
ang daming natin poultry especially sa bulacan na pwedeng pagkuhan ng biogas pero hindi nadedevelop
at bakit sinasabing hoax ang global warming simple lang
kapag nag-go green ang tao walang pera dun
so papayag ba ang mga negosyante na mag-go green tayo hindi dahil wala na silang kita
kaya sisirain nila ang global warming
sabagay nasa huli ang pag-sisi na hindi natin maibabalik pa
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Global warming hoax
tol maski ako ramdam ko ang pagiiba ng climate
bata pa ako signal number 3 1990's lang ang pinakamalakas na bagyo
ngayon e may signal number 4 na at super typhoon pa
so hoax ba yan
sinabi na ng mga scientist na kapag uminit ang mundo mas mabilis mag-evaporate ang tubig resulting to a super typhoon kahit humingi sila ng funds ano ang magagawa nila
tayo nga may capability tayo sa Biodiesel pero bakit hindi nila ginagawa
may capability tayo sa wind energy na nasa ilocos pero hindi nila pinapalawak
nag-introduce ang germany ng magnetic powered train at mas mabilis pa sa bullet train pero hindi na-accept ng america tanging China lang
ang daming natin poultry especially sa bulacan na pwedeng pagkuhan ng biogas pero hindi nadedevelop
at bakit sinasabing hoax ang global warming simple lang
kapag nag-go green ang tao walang pera dun
so papayag ba ang mga negosyante na mag-go green tayo hindi dahil wala na silang kita
kaya sisirain nila ang global warming
sabagay nasa huli ang pag-sisi na hindi natin maibabalik pa
yep, this article can't undo all the supporting studies and evidences about global warming.
maybe the government or someone is trying to avert the situation because of their greed of oil and maybe more reasons.
ramdam naman eh. dati sa province namin umuulan pa ng yelo. or yung hail kung tawagin.ngayon sa baguio sa mga bundok na lng nagkakaroon ng ganito. wala na sa sobrang messed up na ng weather ng earth.
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sa TS, di mo pa ba nararamdaman ang effect ng GLOBAL WARMING? disyembre na mainit pa din ang panahon?ung mga nagdaang bagyo ilan ang supertyphoon? si ondoy signal no. 1 lang pero pinalubog ang kalahati ng Metro Manila these are the effects of climate change due to global warming there is no hoax! siguro some people are taking advantage of these global warming thing as what you've posted but the truth is out there nararamdaman na natin ang ginagawa nating pang aabuso sa kalikasan with so much pollution we had na tayong mga tao din ang gumagawa tsk tsk
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didn't you read the article? too lazy i see...
read the emails... alamin niyo kung ano ung "trick" na ginagamit ng scientists para ma manipulate ung data, and they were laughing... they were amazed based on the outcome applying the "trick".
Also, if I started this thread it doesn't mean I'm imposing it to you. I just want to know what your views are about this. I posted a link to the article for a reason.
READ.
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Yep ramdam ko na umiinit nga pero I'm not saying Global warming na agad.
I don't burn leaves because magamit pang fertilizer, I don't burn plastics because it can be recycled, I walk when it's near or use my bicycle if it's further kasi menus gastos. Ito ang reason ko, and it just so happens na I'm saving "mother earth" pala.
Sa mga tao na naniniwala agad... "Oo nga no, feel ko ung init. Nung bata pa ako hindi ganito ka tindi ung init.. Global warming na... We're doomed!"
Eto isipin niyo..
Example cause ng Global Warming
CO2 emission - isipin natin before pa nainvent ang oil burning, charcoal etc and add 50 years before that... may increase ba sa temperature in that 50 year span?
I'm a skeptic, what can I say?
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wakokoko
guys, ang sabing pag-mamanipulate ay ganito. merong nangyayaring cooling period during the whole time of global warming but scientists and advocates are trying to conceal it..
ang sabi ko naman, baka naman ok na din un kasi kung malalaman ng mga taong merong cooling period, baka lalo pa nila i-abuse ang kalikasan.
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wether me global warming o wala di naman kailangang maging excuse yan para ituloy ang pang aabuso sa kalikasan.
but still i believe na me global warming or climate change, sa dami ng documentaries na mapapanood natin especially ung mabilis na melting ng polar ice caps definetly within 5 to 10 years tataas talaga ang sea level, naobserve ko yan dito sa place namin un road dating malayo pa ung pampang noong maliit pa ako pero ngaun halos katabi na ng dagat un existing na road...
dito sa atin ang kailangan political will pagdating sa environmental policy...kaso kahit saang part wala.
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yes the world is getting warmer. you must be asking, why there was an ice age? there was not even a single cause of pollution back then. could it be the sun that causes the world to get warmer. if you try to recall the theory of super nova or the death of a star. and our sun is a star.
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If you feel hot, it doesn't mean GLOBAL WARMING...
It may be hotter today than decades ago, but it is just part of a universal cycle... We may not comprehend this because the scientist are manipulating the real info on this...
Instead they manufacture the wrong idea that deviates from reality for their own good, or maybe the good of their bosses... ano makukuha nito, they can control the mind -setting of the people... equals power and money...
Maxadong mahaba kung i-eexplain pa... Just think of logic... in FRAUD, those who believe becomes the loser... those who question and look for the truth becomes a crazy who-are-you-stupid...
I belive GLOBAL WARMING promoted by the UN, WHO, etc are overacting and malicious and misleading = HOAX lang yan...
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50 years ikamo
at that time almost 10-15 meters ang thickness ng mga polar caps there is a compensation nangyayari that time as time goes by dumarami ang tao, dumarami ang mga vehicles and the earth cannot return normally sa original form nito
sabi nga ng mga tawag mong skeptics yung thinning ng mga polar caps you need almost 100,000 years pero tayo ginawa lang natin na 50 years ang pag-thin ng mga polar caps
sabagay kung hindi mo naman initindi ang future at wala kang pakialam good for you ang sa amin lang e gusto ko pang makita ng mga magiging apo ko ang Narra at iba pang mga species
ang mundo ay parang tao
Kapag ang babae e may iba't-ibang partner na lalake prone syang magka cervical cancer - yung time ba na nakikipag sex sya may cervical cancer na ba sya wala pa, ilan years bago lumitaw it takes time
kapag ba everyday kang kumakain ng mantikang pagkain on the spot ba tataas ang presyon mo at magkakasakit ka sa bato hindi it takes time
or yung pagkain ng alimango at sugpo hindi ka naman maatake kung 15 years old ka pa lang kumpara sa kakain na 60 years old kung pilosopo syempre may mga exemption na bata pa lang mataas na ang presyon nila
parang shabu or juts or ecstacy na sa una okay ka pa nakakayanan mo pa kaya pa ng system mo na y balance yung chemical pero hanggang kailan kung everyday kang gumamit
ganyan din ang earth hindi porket' 50 -20 years ago e wala naman changes hindi na totoo
merong nangyayaring cooling period during the whole time of global warming but scientists and advocates are trying to conceal it..
meron cooling period because of volcanic eruptions pero its temporary lang nakalimutan ko na kung ilang degrees ibinababa ng mt.Pinatubo eruption sa Global temperature
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50 years ikamo
at that time almost 10-15 meters ang thickness ng mga polar caps there is a compensation nangyayari that time as time goes by dumarami ang tao, dumarami ang mga vehicles and the earth cannot return normally sa original form nito
sabi nga ng mga tawag mong skeptics yung thinning ng mga polar caps you need almost 100,000 years pero tayo ginawa lang natin na 50 years ang pag-thin ng mga polar caps
sabagay kung hindi mo naman initindi ang future at wala kang pakialam good for you ang sa amin lang e gusto ko pang makita ng mga magiging apo ko ang Narra at iba pang mga species
ang mundo ay parang tao
Kapag ang babae e may iba't-ibang partner na lalake prone syang magka cervical cancer - yung time ba na nakikipag sex sya may cervical cancer na ba sya wala pa, ilan years bago lumitaw it takes time
kapag ba everyday kang kumakain ng mantikang pagkain on the spot ba tataas ang presyon mo at magkakasakit ka sa bato hindi it takes time
or yung pagkain ng alimango at sugpo hindi ka naman maatake kung 15 years old ka pa lang kumpara sa kakain na 60 years old kung pilosopo syempre may mga exemption na bata pa lang mataas na ang presyon nila
parang shabu or juts or ecstacy na sa una okay ka pa nakakayanan mo pa kaya pa ng system mo na y balance yung chemical pero hanggang kailan kung everyday kang gumamit
ganyan din ang earth hindi porket' 50 -20 years ago e wala naman changes hindi na totoo
meron cooling period because of volcanic eruptions pero its temporary lang nakalimutan ko na kung ilang degrees ibinababa ng mt.Pinatubo eruption sa Global temperature
parang nawala ka sa daan ko... what i'm trying to say is nung wala pang nainvent the co2 burning "and 50 years before that"....
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meaning: 50yrs<---------------------------------------before invention || after invention --------------------->
were there climate changes back then?
your 100,000 years is way off... these are the same scientists that made that statement.. can you even imagine the climate 100,000 years before the invention of co2 burning? may tao naba nun?
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...Try nio din Research H.A.A.R.P...
...Global Warming is a Cycle of Earth... nde ito dahil nag buburn tyo ng mga CO2 etc... babalik at babalik tyo sa ice age...
...kaya para sa akin i don't believe anything i hear from the media... karamihan sa knila kontrolado ng U.N.,WHO,NASA,CFR at marami pa...
...Read everything, Listen to everybody, Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research... - William Cooper...
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If you feel hot, it doesn't mean GLOBAL WARMING...
It may be hotter today than decades ago, but it is just part of a universal cycle... We may not comprehend this because the scientist are manipulating the real info on this...
Instead they manufacture the wrong idea that deviates from reality for their own good, or maybe the good of their bosses... ano makukuha nito, they can control the mind -setting of the people... equals power and money...
Maxadong mahaba kung i-eexplain pa... Just think of logic... in FRAUD, those who believe becomes the loser... those who question and look for the truth becomes a crazy who-are-you-stupid...
you ignorant fool. have you ever thought of the thin layer of atmosphere caused by cfc pollution and the reflections of the light concentrated on the north and south pole exceeded its limits that the ice cannot bare and it melts. there are more evidence that i can support on this. so stop giving people the wrong impression.
I belive GLOBAL WARMING promoted by the UN, WHO, etc are overacting and malicious and misleading = HOAX lang yan...
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wala nmn mawawala sakin if i save the earth in my own simple ways..
globalwarming.. ^^,.. nice topic.. carbon dioxide traps heat.. less Co2 sa athmospehre = less heat.. ^^,
kelan lang ba tumaas ang CO2 sa hangin? nung nagstart gumamit ng oil.. right?
it would rather not think of it as a hoax..
now i know bakit hindi matuloy tuloy ang mga green projects... kasi ma mga taong di naniniwala.. and naninira...
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Kung totoo man na minmanipulate nila ito, pabor parin sa akin yun para madisiplina kahit papano ang mga walang pakundangan sa nature.
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O.T.
...kelan pa ba tyo bine brainwash? sa tingin ko simula pa ng magka isip tayo... hindi lahat ng pinag aralan natin ay tama, hindi lahat totoo... yun lang ang pananaw ko... dahil ba sa sinasabi ng nakararami, ito ay totoo na?... at sa mga taong nagsasabi ng totoo tinatawag silang "baliw"...
...kasi karamihan sa tao kung ano ang totoo yun ang hindi nila pinaniniwalaan...
...Cge ganito maniwala kyo sa "Global Warming" para lagyan ng tax ang lahat ng kagamitang naglalabas ng carbon at carbon emissions... lalong babagsak ang ekonimiya kung ganito ang mangyayari...
...Eto vid sana makatulong ito sa inyo...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s[/youtube]
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Being a skeptic doesn't mean you're destroying mother earth. You can choose not to believe global warming but still strive to save mother earth. Problema sa mga nagrereact dito, ganun kagad ang impression sa skeptics ng global warming. Bow.
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hoax or not stop killing the earth! go for green energy... bike love!!!
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hoax or not stop killing the earth! go for green energy... bike love!!!
finger4u
...APRUB!!!...
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Like biological warfare, weather modification or weather alteration is a part of the war arsenal of the US military. Ang database ng US on meteorology has all the weather data of all points in the world over a period of at least fifty ninety years so alam nila ang weather pattern of any point at any given time. So alam nila ang cycle ng weather which recurs after every ten years. The great flood of Wisconsin in 1992 as well as that of Katrina is experiment gone awry. Two weeks prior to Ondoy, banat ng banat ang mga pulitiko na ipawalang bisa ang VFA. Nagkaroon ng Ondoy and you find US soldiers in the forefront of the relief effort. It is like saying to us na 'kailangan nyo kami'. Now, wala ng usapan na tanggalin ang VFA. May isinusulong na bagong policy ang US military on the use of weather alteration as being a force multiplier.
Kalalabas lang sa mga pahayagan na hindi na mabayaran ng Dubai ang utang na USD60 Billion dahil wala naman sila talagang oil. Meron na rin problema ang Saudi sa langis. Natural, maghanap na sila ng ibang sources of fuel. Pag mainit ang panahon, matutunaw ang lahat ng yelo sa North Pole and it would be easier for the US to extract all the fuel and gas in the North Pole. That is the findings made by a Scandinavian group.
Be that as it may, maganda din naman na hindi tayo magputol ng mga puno sa kagubatan, wag gagamit ng plastic, wag magtapon ng basura sa estero, wag gumamit ng coal, tanggalin ang mga jeep na bumubuga ng maduming usok at wag magsigarilyo sa public place.
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kung totoo man yan or hindi, i will do my part in saving the planet
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If you feel hot, it doesn't mean GLOBAL WARMING...
It may be hotter today than decades ago, but it is just part of a universal cycle... We may not comprehend this because the scientist are manipulating the real info on this...
Instead they manufacture the wrong idea that deviates from reality for their own good, or maybe the good of their bosses... ano makukuha nito, they can control the mind -setting of the people... equals power and money...
Maxadong mahaba kung i-eexplain pa... Just think of logic... in FRAUD, those who believe becomes the loser... those who question and look for the truth becomes a crazy who-are-you-stupid...
I belive GLOBAL WARMING promoted by the UN, WHO, etc are overacting and malicious and misleading = HOAX lang yan...
sorry for double posting.
ignorant.have you ever thought of the thin layer of atmosphere caused by cfc pollution and the reflections of the light concentrated on the north and south pole exceeded its limits that the ice cannot bare and it melts. there are more evidence that i can support on this. so stop giving people the wrong impression.
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The heck... you are so concentrated in just one instance or example... think broad... And clarify ko lang yung mga sentences mo...
- "What is that "thin layer of atmosphere caused by cfc pollution"?
- "the reflections of the light concentrated on the north and south pole exceeded its limits that the ice cannot bare and it melts" <---- *elaborate*
- "so stop giving people the wrong impression." <<< mali ka tol... I am sharing my insights... it is up to our fellow espiyas to agree or not... this is forum right? a place for kuru-kuro...
and lastly, referring me as ignorant is blasphemous, you may actually be referring to yourself.. thanks!
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edi correct ko sya
"the reflections of the light concentrated on the north and south pole exceeded its limits that the ice cannot bare and it melts" <---- *elaborate*
our global temp rises almost 1Degress
mayroon tayong global conveyor belt
warm air goes to north and cold air goes south
this is a homeostatis process wherein
yung mga hot countries e hindi mamatay sa sobrang init
as a rule
madaling pataasin ang temp na malalamig na lugar kumpara sa taga-middleast
ngayon because of green houses gases tumaas ang temp natin ng almost a degree sa normal therefore hindi normal yun therefore mas mainit ng 1 degree ang pumupunta sa north pole dahil mainit sya ng konti may matutunaw na kaunti dahil hindi normal yun
ngayon dahil sa init na yun natutunaw ang polar caps hindi naman faster rate it takes us 50-100 years
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I don't want to sound like a scientist or someone who knows alot about the science of climate change, but I think all the negative things that we've done for the past decades is slowly showing itself. Climate changes around the world are evident and that includes some man-made disasters which somehow related to climate change. The point of the matter is we are now being aware of what bad things might happen when we take our own planet for granted. I don't want to wait for that day when I'll regret all the things that I did, and the thoughts of what things I should have done to avoid the fruit of our own destruction.
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anyway... basta ako i believe na hoax yan, global warming presented in TV, ads and papers... maxadong overkill...
as per observation lang, one of the biggest threat that could send panic to the people is yan nga banta sa kalikasan... it is presented through media in an exaggerated manner... then here comes massive donations from diffenrent persons to raise funds... do these funds really work for us? matagal na palang alam ng mga taga UN na may "global warming kuno" , andami nang natatanggap na donations... what happened? ------- hanggang balita lang to further collect more donations.... remember MONEY = POWER...
okay sabihin nating mas uminit ngayon kaysa dating mga panahon, i believe it is just a natural cycle... sa laki ng solar system, sa laki ng galaxies, sa laki ng universe... don't tell me, you will be expecting a stagnant weather or climate patterns...
if ever na may banta man sa kalikasan na dahil sa kagagawan ng tao, at least ako i am doing my part... and hopefully sana tayong mga pilipino... sa simpleng pagtatapon ng balat ng kendi sa basurahan hanggang sa malaki-laking partisipasyon sa pagtatanim ng puno sa bukid at pagiging "vigilant"... kung may nalalaman o nakikitang nagtatambak ng basura sa ilog, i report agad sa awtoridad... yan may ginagawa tayo...
totoo mang may global warming o wala.... and epekto at ang ginagawa natin sa kasalukuyan ang importante...
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May article dati sa Reader Digest na Global Warming is natural cycle lng. Its like forest fire, minsan natural lng na nangyayari dahl its a cycle
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No one has ever said that humans were causing it. What they said was humans MAY be contributing to it.
Either way, mas mabuti na rin makalanghap tayo ng mas malinis na hangin.
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it is true normal cycle lang ang global warming pero as I said before from other post
dati and predicted na melting ng polar caps ay 100,000 years pa pero nabigla sila through data gathering for the past 40-60 years na napakabilis ng melting ng polar caps na hindi normal occurrence
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it is true normal cycle lang ang global warming pero as I said before from other post
dati and predicted na melting ng polar caps ay 100,000 years pa pero nabigla sila through data gathering for the past 40-60 years na napakabilis ng melting ng polar caps na hindi normal occurrence
again with the 100,000 years...
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geez, i guess people are just naive about the situation.
dati november to feb malamig na ang panahon. ngayon, dec na nga mainit pa. tapos january iinit na uli.
and sige, even if global warming is a hoax, then what? magsunog na ng magsunog kasi di naman totoo?
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naive sila kase masarap ang buhay nila
why you try to bother something that you cannot see diba
nasa mansion ako naka-aircon paki-alam ko sa global warning nayan yan ang mentality ng iba
kung seseryoso tayo sa global warming napakasarap ng buhay
bili ka ng cooking oil kapag maitim na dalhin mo yung oil sa converter para maging (AFAIK methyl ester) at maging biodiesel diba napakasarap may pangluto kana may gas kapa diba eco-friendly
pero tinutulan ito ng mga global warming hoax advocate
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Look at the Temperature record during the last century, mukha bang may climate change?
(http://i48.tinypic.com/nmfh1k.png)
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Now, Look at the the temperature record of the earth throughout 'geologic' time, masasabi pa rin ba natin with confidence na may Global Warming? Baka naman within the natural Fluctuations of earth temperature pa rin tayo? ;)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/51t4s4.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/30m0pio.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/122hv1y.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record
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Look at the Temperature record during the last century, mukha bang may climate change?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record
Then you found those datas on Wikipedia? come on, you gotta be smarter than that.
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Then you found those datas on Wikipedia? come on, you gotta be smarter than that.
+1 laffman::
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Then you found those datas on Wikipedia? come on, you gotta be smarter than that.
trying to be smart,ei? ....
probably the number of courses i took , once upon a time, allow me to say that i know enough about the subject . ;)
Just borrowed out the figures from wicki- What's the problem with that? :o. It's quick and easy.... and i can assure you that the figures are not just barbers or 'hot-air' products. ;) laffman::
Probably you have the time and the diligence to look them up in scientifically, peer-reviewed journals. good luck! toast::
P.S. Bawal ang nagmamagaling..... ;D
toast:: toast:: toast::
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P.S. Bawal ang nagmamagaling..... ;D
toast:: toast:: toast::
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just stating the obvious that Wikipedia has lost its credibility on sharing ACCURATE data that SHOULD be precise. Most of the articles could be edited so by that virtue alone, you don't need to notice those things intellectually just to comprehend them.. just plainly common sense.
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O.T.
...sa mga naniniwala ng G.W. is caused by us... LOL... isa kyo sa mga tupa ng elistista... kahit ano mkita sa idiot box pinaniniwalaan... think outside of the box mga tsong!...
...sa mga hindi naman naniniwala... well at least medyo nagising na kayo... try din nating research yung Blue Beam Project...
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O.T.
...sa mga naniniwala ng G.W. is caused by us... LOL... isa kyo sa mga tupa ng elistista... kahit ano mkita sa idiot box pinaniniwalaan... think outside of the box mga tsong!...
...sa mga hindi naman naniniwala... well at least medyo nagising na kayo... try din nating research yung Blue Beam Project...
Care to share some evidence and convince the "Tupas" with your arguement? Unless if your also looking into an another retard box full of hypocrisy. Back it up than said than done. ::)
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Care to share some evidence and convince the "Tupas" with your arguement? Unless if your also looking into an another retard box full of hypocrisy. Back it up than said than done.
...try mo mag research... i did mine... cguro isa akong itim na tupa... evidence ba? research mo na din... and brad nde nko nanonood ng t.v. eh...
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...try mo mag research... i did mine... cguro isa akong itim na tupa... evidence ba? research mo na din... and brad nde nko nanonood ng t.v. eh...
Wow.. You have guts to call us names and accuse other people and yet you can't even give even a little information about your so-called "research". Why can't you just spill the beans about it? Why don't you want to save other people frittered away by some "HOAX"? :applause
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I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just stating the obvious that Wikipedia has lost its credibility on sharing ACCURATE data that SHOULD be precise. Most of the articles could be edited so by that virtue alone, you don't need to notice those things intellectually just to comprehend them.. just plainly common sense.
Because you speak with Absolute Authority in saying that wiki is utterly useless and you indirectly say that any critical person couldn't and shouldn't pick up anything from it (wiki)---- May i request you to show us any historical or geologic data that contradict the general trends in the graphs i showed you earlier?
... You may opt to use Wiki for help, by the way. ;)
Forgive me for being a little sarcastic, somebody just failed to give me the benefit of the doubt (or the courtesy) that i might as well have an iota of critical thinking or common sense in me. ;) ;D
Ang bago kong Global Warming Post, alay ko sa yo kapatid kong Turon. Peace. toast::
Magsaya tayo sa ating Bahay. Bawal ang Awayan!!!
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Because you speak with Absolute Authority in saying that wiki is utterly useless and you indirectly say that any critical person couldn't and shouldn't pick up anything from it (wiki)---- May i request you to show us any historical or geologic data that contradict the general trends in the graphs i showed you earlier?
... You may opt to use Wiki for help, by the way. ;)
Forgive me for being a little sarcastic, somebody just failed to give me the benefit of the doubt (or the courtesy) that i might as well have an iota of critical thinking or common sense in me. ;) ;D
Ang bago kong Global Warming Post, alay ko sa yo kapatid kong Turon. Peace. toast::
Magsaya tayo sa ating Bahay. Bawal ang Awayan!!!
Its just my two cents worth. It's my own observation and opinion and you also have yours. Anyway let's just toast to that.
toast::
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didn't you read the article? too lazy i see...
read the emails... alamin niyo kung ano ung "trick" na ginagamit ng scientists para ma manipulate ung data, and they were laughing... they were amazed based on the outcome applying the "trick".
Also, if I started this thread it doesn't mean I'm imposing it to you. I just want to know what your views are about this. I posted a link to the article for a reason.
READ.
Im workin in a country that lives on hydro-carbon exports folks. The e-mails just fell right into their laps and watta coincidence, the Climate Change Talks at Denmark.
Whoever hacked the e-mails of the climatologists gave one intention, DISCREDIT them. True or false, whether the manipulations or "tricks" are true is of no consequence considering the grevious effects of changing weather patterns the world is experiencing lately.
Who would believe that the City of Jeddah will drown in a massive flood in just four hours of rain? even the Saudi's themselves couldnt believe it but it happened. global Warming is straing you in the face but peole couldnt bring themselves to believe it. Sad but true!
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binaha ang Jeddah sa Saudi pag umulan dun ambon lang at madalang na madalang pero binaha ngayon may evidence ka ba bro baka yung mga mayayaman natin hoax experts e hindi maniniwala
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binaha ang Jeddah sa Saudi pag umulan dun ambon lang at madalang na madalang pero binaha ngayon may evidence ka ba bro baka yung mga mayayaman natin hoax experts e hindi maniniwala
Here you go bro: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=128861&d=27&m=11&y=2009
That is a link for the jeddah floods from the website of an english daily here in saudi arabia.
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wow
ngayon ko lang nalaman na binabaha ang Jeddah
sabi ng mga prof noon na galing Saudi e swerte ka na raw kapag umulan sa Saudi kase madalang na madalang lang kung umulan
ngayon binabaha so ating mga hoax experts anong masasabi nyo? this event is very abnormal na nagyayari sa Jeddah
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pumasok lang poh sa utak ko...
kung mainit dito sa earth......ano na kaya sa impyerno? ::pampam ::pampam ::pampam
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AFAIK
kumukulong asupre
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its not global warming per se... its global climate disruption wherein kaya umiinit ang earth its because of the solar maximum of the sun. this is not hollywood movie scene.. haven't you guys see the signs...
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/10mar_stormwarning/
global warming is a "dangerous misnomer" for a problem far more complicated than a rise in temperature.
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hoax nga ang global warming. ang mga pangyayaring sakuna ngayun ay nagyayari na noon. hindi bago ang mga sakuna.
ginawa lang nila yan para matakot at madisiplina ang mga tao. para hindi na magtapon ng basura kung saan saan, magputol ng kahoy, magsunog ng mga plastic at iba pa!
ang dapat lang natin paghandaan ay ang ating kamatayan. kaya ang nalalabi nating araw at oras sa mundo ay dapat nating ibibigay o i-aalay natin sa DIYOS!
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mga sir naisip ko lang.
what if the people who released the so called hoax info are making it up as well. for some screwed up reason or they just because they can.
normal human reaction to reality. make up a lie to cover up what we did wrong. you normally notice that amongst the population that when faced with the truth or cornered to explain something they did. people tend to make an elaborate explenation of something to cover up a faulty situation. and sometimes to the point that they themselves believe the lie because they themselves are convinced of the story they made. im not a shrink but i think they have a name for that.
im not pointing fingers or discrediting the TS. im just saying that if we believe in everything we read on the net then i guess santa clause is real, the tooth fairy is jack rich, dogs dont bite, hitler is still alive and gwapo si willie revillame.
;)