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Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« on: September 04, 2008, 05:08:23 am »
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The inevitable is a now a sure thing. No amount of uncertainty nor stumbling blocks to hurdle will stop the fight from happening. Oscar dela Hoya agreed to fight Manny Pacquaio on December 6, 2008 at MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.
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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 05:13:14 am »
hmmm, hirap pa kong kumilatis pero siguro si oscar...or pede rin si pacman dahil sa speed?...hmmm


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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 05:22:13 am »
naiintindihan ko marami tayong Pinoy na nayayabangan kay Manny. Ako naman ayoko lang sa kanya after ng fight siguro kasi sa mag epal niya politician friends. Pero full support ako sa kanya kasi nirerepresent niya ang bansa. Buti rin naging possible tong match na to, before nung may nagdiscuss nito akala ko imbento o rumors lang (kasi magka-iba iba sila ng weight) but nung confirmed na, WOW big time na to hehehe. Sana ma-KO ni Manny si Dela Hoya. Para sakin siya yung "last" Mexican (I know he's Mexican-American) na he needs to conquer. Badtrip din kasi ko nung laban nila Mayweather & Dela Hoya. Di pa niya napabagsak tapos nanalo pa si Dela Hoya. I always thought pinanalo siya coz I remember it was his "supposed" final match before retiring. Kaya kung eto na ang final fight ni Dela Hoya, sana Manny will give him something that he'll never forget, a TKO hahahaha. Go Manny! sayasaya::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 05:23:07 am »
Sa tingin ko si Oscar. Malaki ang lamang ni oscar sa katawan pa lang at sa height talo na si pacman. Mahaba kc ung reach ni oscar kaya mejo dejado si pacman dun. pagdating nman sa power malakas din tong si oscar although malakas din si pacman at mabilis pero mukhang di parin nya kakayanin si oscar..

Tignan nyo naman ni hindi nga nagbago ang mukha ni oscar PRETTY BOY parin sa ring si pacman sumingkit na sya dahil laging natatamaan ung mukha sa bugbog ng kalaban..hehe  ;D

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 05:24:53 am »
hmmm, hirap pa kong kumilatis pero siguro si oscar...or pede rin si pacman dahil sa speed?...hmmm

Yun nga e. ako rin. ang hirap sabihin o mapredict kung sino mananalo. kaya highly anticipated ito. You have Oscar who's a veteran & who's much bigger & maybe stronger? Oscar has all the advantages except for speed & age. Sana yung dalawa lang ang kailangan ni Manny to win. ;D

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 06:03:39 am »
i thought that this kind of fight will only exist in video games... WTF... OMG... Parang personalan na ata to kaya naging posible...
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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 06:50:22 am »

Badtrip din kasi ko nung laban nila Mayweather & Dela Hoya. Di pa niya napabagsak tapos nanalo pa si Dela Hoya. I always thought pinanalo siya coz I remember it was his "supposed" final match before retiring.


correct lang kita dirty sanchez...si Mayweather Jr. ang nanalo. he won by a split decision over De La Hoya, thus, making Mayweather the WBC Jr. Middleweight/Super Welterweight champ...but if you meant that at least with one judge he won the fight, then please pardon my intrusion... toast::

now, my take on the "match": yes, like mentioned above, this stuff is made in video games, made in dreams. How can anyone even call this a match? It's a mismatch...now, I am not here to bicker around and not support Manny Pacquiao. But I just think that his chances are slim, if not very slim.

Let me prove my point. Granted that Manny Pacquiao has the speed and power to boost in this match, so what does De La Hoya have to counter this? Simple, experience and being a much heavier fighter who fights in much heavier divisions. But what does this mean? Truly, Manny Pacquiao's speed and power is beyond reason as we've seen in all of his fights. He has the power of a Junior Welterweight, if not a Welterweight, fighting in the Lightweight. However, granted that Manny can punch like a Welterweight, the question stands whether these division-based strong punches are effective against De La Hoya who has fought from the Jr. Lightweight all the way to the Middleweight divisions. Not only has De La Hoya faced and withstood some of the best and heaviest punchers in the Welterweight and Middleweight history in Trinidad, Mosley, and Hopkins to name a few, he has also increased his speed and power along the way. So the question is reversed, can Manny handle the speed and power that a Middleweight fighter has in De La Hoya. Again, granted that De La Hoya is slower and weaker than he used to be. But we have to keep in mind that De La Hoya is no ordinary boxer. Regardless of his diminished talent, he still can go toe-to-toe with any fighter within his division, and can still pull a win. We've seen him battle Mayorga and Vargas, two champions, two good punchers, in his decline, and still punished them.

As I've said, I am still pulling for a Pac-Man upset. But the odds are heavily stacked against him. Both men will make big bucks in this fight. For Manny, this will be the purse that he's been waiting for all his boxing career. On paper I think it will be an Oscar De La Hoya decision. But in my heart it's a Manny Pacquiao knock-out. But the question stands, will Manny Pacquiao be able to withstand Oscar De La Hoya's, though diminished, yet still formidable speed and power... toast::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 08:23:54 am »
Pacman yan.. ang laki ng motivation nya.. extra 10% nung total earnings.. hehe..  ;D

basta makapagtraining sya at makondisyon nya ang katawan nya tulad nung sa Pac-Morales 3 at Pac-Diaz, kaya nya si Oscar..  toast::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 08:54:48 am »
mahirap... sa puso ko ay si pacman pero sa isip ko ay si dela hoya. nallito na ko.... wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh........

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 01:24:43 pm »
alisin lang natin yung bias natin for our fellow countryman at maging logical tayo, alam nating lahat na si de la hoya ang panalo dito. chance ni pacman manalo, mga 5 to 10% lang or lower pa. kaya nga may weight divisions kasi hindi pwedeng kahit sino na lang ang itatapat sa isang boxer e, dapat yung kapantay lang nya, definitely hindi kapantay ni de la hoya si pacman.
sana lang wag masyado mabugbog si pacman dito sa laban na ito.

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 02:38:37 pm »
sana humiga c pakyaw agad pag tinamaan n ng matindi ni dlh ng hindi cya msyado masira hehehe pero pakyaw pa rin ako matamaan nya lang ito ng magagandang kumbinasyon khit mga 3 sunud sunod tapos na ang laban hehehehe    sayasaya::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 04:35:59 pm »
nasilaw ata sa offer na pera si manny but i still think his chances are slim to none  smoking::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 09:51:26 pm »

my prediction: unanimous decision win by oscar dela hoya over manny pacquiao

although i would be glad if im wrong
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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 03:20:06 am »
lamang si dela hoya dahil si pacman ang mag aadjust sa weight

reach is not a hindrance kung in-fighter ka pero kung points ang pag uusapan medyo dehado si pacman

dahil mag iincrease ka ng weight matinding adjustment ang gagawin ni pacman in terms of strength and speed and endurance

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 05:37:49 am »
lamang si dela hoya dahil si pacman ang mag aadjust sa weight

reach is not a hindrance kung in-fighter ka pero kung points ang pag uusapan medyo dehado si pacman

dahil mag iincrease ka ng weight matinding adjustment ang gagawin ni pacman in terms of strength and speed and endurance


hindi naman necessarily kailangang magpabigat ni Pacman kung mahihirapan sya dun.. 147 lbs is just the MAXIMUM limit.. kung gusto nyang mag-stay sa current weight nya to maintain his advantage, he can do so..  toast::

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Re: Sino ang mamanalo "THRILLA IN LAS VEGAS ON DEC. 6, 2008"?
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2008, 09:17:26 pm »

my prediction: unanimous decision win by oscar dela hoya over manny pacquiao

although i would be glad if im wrong

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