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To all Laker fans
« on: September 06, 2007, 09:49:06 am »

sa tingin nyo anong chances ng ating beloved lakers this upcoming nba season?
may tiwala pa ba kayo na makakakuha pa ulit ng championship ang team ntin with kobe around?
alam ko kasi marami ring kobe haters d2 eh..
and lastly kung wla na nmang mpala ang lakers dis season sino ang dpat sisihin si kobe or d management?

basta ako i still believe. Go Lakers!!!

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 11:52:35 am »
here's the thing...Kobe is an excellent individual ball player. Now with his defense starting to really pick up, he is becoming better. However, he still needs to be the leader that the Lakers need. He still needs to make his teammates better. But before anyone reacts, in fairness to Kobe, he can be the greatest leader that any player can be, and still see no results. Kobe's team, the current Lakers, sad to say, lacks talent. Kobe needs more than an inconsistent AND injury-prone Lamar Odom to bring Los Angeles back to the promise land, or some miracle to help Kobe's current team increase talent drastically overnight.Until this happens, the Lakers will only be a first rounder, or if lucky a second rounder at most.

Who is to blame? I would put most of the blame on the management. The ball is on their court now after Kobe started to demand the players he wanted in the team (and those he wanted out), plus the trade demand he flip-flopped through the radio stations. Your star player demanded for a better team, and still Mitch Kupchak didn't do anything about it.

Kobe wants to win. Kobe is as great a competitor as anyone can be. He can and should improve more on being a teammate as he did in the FIBA Americas. But he can only do so much. The Laker management needs to work on its player management to get out of the first round and eventually get back into the Finals and have the 15th championship banner up on their rafters.  toast::
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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 02:31:05 am »
wala sila chance sa nba championship yon nalang pag bumalik si shaq kasi if you hold kobe to 30 points the chance is there gonna lose the game  laffman:: laffman::

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 04:14:56 am »
Cyempre may pag-asa. Cris Mihm is back, he average double-double last season he played. Atleast may ipapalit na kay Kwame sa 1st 5.

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 04:47:30 am »
Mark my word. This upcoming NBA Sesson, Los Angeles Lakers have to chance for a championship or even reach the Western Conference Final unless Kobe will change his strategy. I mean, there are five players in the court not only one. I just remember the Chicago Bulls during the time of Michael Jordan, Jordan showed an explendid performance because what is important is teamwork should be observed.

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 09:14:03 pm »
well, kailangan pa ma-improve yung line-up nila kahit bumalik na si fisher at mihm..at yan din naman sabi ni phil jackson...

so, i hope before the start of the season, they can bring someone to help kobe...

but if not...i will believe that they have chances...

pg = derek fisher
sg= kobe
sf = luke
pf = lamar
c = chris mihm

this line-up needs help on 3,4,5 position..but i like lamar..he's not just consistent..

well..go lakers..go!

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 03:05:34 am »
I don't like Lamar at PF.. he's just too frail..  ;D

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 03:21:45 am »
yup..thats true...thats why i say to improve that position..but lamar will fit into SF...maybe luke will come of the bench..then sabay si chrIs mihm at andrew bynum or kwame..

ahhhhh the lakers starting line-up sucks..THEY NEED TO IMPROVE!!


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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 03:45:58 am »
They need to develop Bynum.. he's a very promising kid (just 19 years old!).. and also Farmar.. If they blossom in 3 years, and Kobe becomes a really great mature leader, the Lakers might just make it all the way..  ;D

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2007, 03:53:02 am »
they still need help and have a lot of work to do especially on appeasing kobe, the west is loaded with strong teams, the lakers could probably make it to playoffs at best, too bad there not in the eastern conference, they would have a better chance of getting to the finals

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2007, 04:06:53 am »
Winning a championship is a team effort.  In every NBA team there must be someone that will carry a lot more load than others.  Last year was disappointing to all due to unforseen injuries to a number of players.  This year I believe they look healthy and this looks promising.  Looking forward to the start of the season.  Go Lakers!!!

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 10:34:19 am »
...the west is loaded with strong teams, the lakers could probably make it to playoffs at best, too bad there not in the eastern conference, they would have a better chance of getting to the finals

its funny how people would always think of the East as THAT weak...i mean, its not as strong as the West, but its not a push-over conference either where any team in the West (lower seeded that is) will dominate if in fact that team is transferred to the East. In this case, the Lakers; the Lakers were 42-40 last season. They were 28-24 in the West. This means that they were 14-16 in the East. Percentage wise, the Lakers faired better in the West, and lost in the East. Although it shows that the Lakers won over "better" teams which are predominantly in the West, it's not automatic that they will win over the East. Remember Eastern and Western type of basketball are different. The Lakers, as it shows, had a tougher time playing East Coast type of ball, thus the losing Eastern games record...so please stop saying that any losing or lower seeded Western Conference team can dominate the Eastern Conference on any given day....I'm just saying... toast::
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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 02:05:49 am »
...the west is loaded with strong teams, the lakers could probably make it to playoffs at best, too bad there not in the eastern conference, they would have a better chance of getting to the finals

its funny how people would always think of the East as THAT weak...i mean, its not as strong as the West, but its not a push-over conference either where any team in the West (lower seeded that is) will dominate if in fact that team is transferred to the East. In this case, the Lakers; the Lakers were 42-40 last season. They were 28-24 in the West. This means that they were 14-16 in the East. Percentage wise, the Lakers faired better in the West, and lost in the East. Although it shows that the Lakers won over "better" teams which are predominantly in the West, it's not automatic that they will win over the East. Remember Eastern and Western type of basketball are different. The Lakers, as it shows, had a tougher time playing East Coast type of ball, thus the losing Eastern games record...so please stop saying that any losing or lower seeded Western Conference team can dominate the Eastern Conference on any given day....I'm just saying... toast::

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Pero kung Western team ka, mas gugustuhin mo matalo sa Eastern team rather than talunin ng co-western team db? Simply bec. cla ang kaagaw mo sa top8 play-offs seed. Kaya cgro in the case of Lakers, mas may effort pag kalaban mo west.

Everyone knows naman na mas malakas talaga ang West, ewan ko na lang next season. Remember the finals last season? 4-0 in favor of western team.

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 10:00:55 am »
Here my Analysis...

Pro's

Kobe can score a lot of points that can provide wins for the team but his problem is his consistency. If he's limited to 30 points or less the Team Loses, If he scores more than 30 points they have a 50-60% chance to win the game. But a Monster point of more than 50 points definitely the team will win...

and the bench is also inconsistent... but sometimes it can kill other teams in terms of outside shooting. The Team has many shooters like Smush, Cook, Walton, Evans and Odom

But The Team really lack is a power player who can dominate the paint... They have two potential players who can dominate the paint. Kwame and Andrew but they lack the experience to dominate. I think there is more room to grow and improve their skills...

I am Happy of the return of Chis Mihm. He can now help in terms of defense and Offense 


What if The Management Sign KG and Jermaine O'neal to the Team? It is possible to make it to the Finals?

Go Lakers.... ;D 

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 10:40:25 am »
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What if The Management Sign KG and Jermaine O'neal to the Team? It is possible to make it to the Finals?


i supposed u r not updated about d latest news in the nba my friend.kg has been traded already to the celtics a month ago and j o'neal is staying in indiana and no sign of any blockbuster trade are coming for the lakers.but i think they will be fine as long as they stay healthy through the entire season.sayang lng they didn't go for the kidd last year when they had the chance.they could have a starting lineup of mihm, walton, odom, bryant and kidd.

but still andyan p nman si kb24.Go Lakers!

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2007, 10:54:54 am »
Pano kung nging gnito ang line up and lakers? Katulad ng ginawa kong roster patch sa NBA LIve 06

Bervin Knight - PG
Manu Ginobili - SG
Darius Miles -  SF
R. Wallace - PF
E. Dampier - C

hehehe... Possible na kaya sa championship...?

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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2007, 11:09:39 am »
...the west is loaded with strong teams, the lakers could probably make it to playoffs at best, too bad there not in the eastern conference, they would have a better chance of getting to the finals

its funny how people would always think of the East as THAT weak...i mean, its not as strong as the West, but its not a push-over conference either where any team in the West (lower seeded that is) will dominate if in fact that team is transferred to the East. In this case, the Lakers; the Lakers were 42-40 last season. They were 28-24 in the West. This means that they were 14-16 in the East. Percentage wise, the Lakers faired better in the West, and lost in the East. Although it shows that the Lakers won over "better" teams which are predominantly in the West, it's not automatic that they will win over the East. Remember Eastern and Western type of basketball are different. The Lakers, as it shows, had a tougher time playing East Coast type of ball, thus the losing Eastern games record...so please stop saying that any losing or lower seeded Western Conference team can dominate the Eastern Conference on any given day....I'm just saying... toast::

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Pero kung Western team ka, mas gugustuhin mo matalo sa Eastern team rather than talunin ng co-western team db? Simply bec. cla ang kaagaw mo sa top8 play-offs seed. Kaya cgro in the case of Lakers, mas may effort pag kalaban mo west.

Everyone knows naman na mas malakas talaga ang West, ewan ko na lang next season. Remember the finals last season? 4-0 in favor of western team.

I do agree at a certain point that there might be more drive in competing against your own conference for seeding. But I don't think that the effort in winning over other teams in both conferences is different. No one wants to lose. If a team really wants a good seeding in the playoffs, then they will try to win as much games as they can regardless of which conference they will get it from, and have more games won than any team in their division, PERIOD. I don't think they even choose to lose to anyone. Losing is not an option for any of these players. You know as much as I do that even the teams that doesn't make it into the playoffs still tries to win their last games. That is how competitive these teams are. This holds true for the Kobe-led Lakers.

As for the East, the East is not a push-over conference as most people see it. Almost the entire history of the NBA, the West has always been seen as the better conference. But history will show too that the East is the better team winning more than half of NBA's championship and winning most of the All-Star games (35 out of 56 games). But that's history.

The NOW really shows the West's dominance over the East. I have mentioned that myself. However, I don't think that last year's Finals was any indication of how far the West is from the East. Can you really compare the Cavs to a HEALTHY Heat team and to a Piston team that has a clear and straight mind-set? I don't think so. I am not giving these two teams any excuse for not making it to the Finals. But the fact of the matter is, they are two of the top teams in the East who can give ANY team in the West a run for their money. I don't even think, as great as Lebron is, Cleveland is in the Top 3 in the East.

All I am saying is that although that West is more dominant than the East, it doesn't mean that the East is that far behind. I reiterate, it doesn't mean that any team in the West, especially the lower seeded teams, can dominate the East anytime. But then again, the only way to find out is to have all teams play against each other with equal amount of games, which will never happen... toast::
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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 04:39:40 am »
im a laker fan, mula pa nila magic at kareem, pero as long as kobe is there, iwas lakers muna ako, no offense to kobe fans ha, pero di ko talag ma-gets si pareng kobe eh  laffman::




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Re: To all Laker fans
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2007, 01:58:37 am »
kobe needs an allstar partner. lamar should elevate his game. and kobe must give his team mate a chance to show themselves.