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Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« on: August 24, 2007, 09:13:07 am »
Magtatanong lang sana ako about mutual funds. Ano ba talaga yun, saka paano ba mag-invest dito sa Pilipinas?

Anong pinagkaiba nito sa conventional stock market? Saka if may alam kayong magandang investment para sa newbie na tulad ko?

May kasama kasi ako sa work na stock broker pero lukewarm ako sa kanya kaya sa inyo ko na lang itatanong.
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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 10:40:17 am »
Mutual funds mutual funds. Marami dito sa pinas brod. May nabasa ako na isa tungkol sa housing na mutual funds nakalimutan ko na pangalan.

Alam ko diyan you have to invest tapos may dividends na tinatawag o may interes na binabayaran sayo. Mas malaki ito kumpara sa dineposito mo sa bangko pero mas mababa ito kumapara sa stock market. Sa mutual funds konti ang risk na matalo ka. That means, pag unti ang risk, unti lang din kikitain mo.

Stock market kumplikado dahil ang daming kumpanya.

Why not try forex? Been studing for half a month natigil lang dahil nagka work ako. Dun you should learn to minimize the risk dahil malakihan ang kita. Isang kurap ng mata mo as in segundo lang kikita ka ng 5000 pesos. Isang kurap ng pagkakamali ubos ang pera mo. Pinag aaralan yun e, at may bars ang graphs na "indicators" para lam mo kung kelan ka bibili at kelan ka mag bebenta. Ala stock market pero everything happens on the internet. Ang FOREX 24/7 bukas ang market. Kung trip mo na ulit kumita buksan mo ang laptop mo at sa bed ka mag trabaho, after 1 hour na naka 5k pesos ka na ok na yun sa buong araw bukas naman. Pero kelangan dyan 4 months na training at aral on how indicator works.

Pero kung tamad ka mag aral and mas ok sa iyo na iba ang hahawak ng pera mo then try mutual funds. You just invest and wait.

But one thing you need to know is "hindi ka yayaman sa mutual funds".

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 12:17:02 pm »
okay naman ang mutual funds ah... mas maliit nga lang ang interes ng pera mo pero mas safe naman sya ...


sa mutual fund kasi, bale lahat ng mga pera ng mga investors pagsa sama samahin, tapos merong magiinvest ng lahat ng pera na yun sa iba't ibang sector ng stock market... mas diversified ba ang pera mo at hindi sya naka stuck sa iisang investment... 

tatlong klase naman un, may conservative, balanced saka income...

maganda rin sa mutual fund pede kang maginvest ng fixed amount every month... wala ka nang iisipin kung saang investment mo ilalagay pera mo dahil may expert nang humahawak.

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 06:21:52 am »
ang biyenan ko yung naipon nyang pera ng nagtatrabaho, nilagay nya sa mutual fund. nakita ko yung financial record nya by accident ng pinakalikot yung computer nya, nakita ko na kumikita sya ng 60k a month. lumalabas, at least 10% per year ang kita nya.

kwentahin nyo na kung magkano investment ng biyenan ko  laffman::

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 06:49:49 am »
ang biyenan ko yung naipon nyang pera ng nagtatrabaho, nilagay nya sa mutual fund. nakita ko yung financial record nya by accident ng pinakalikot yung computer nya, nakita ko na kumikita sya ng 60k a month. lumalabas, at least 10% per year ang kita nya.

kwentahin nyo na kung magkano investment ng biyenan ko  laffman::

WoW yaman nmn ng biyanan mo!!! pwede ba ko magpaampon sa kanya?? laffman::

Ako din mejo interesado sa mutual funds.. san po ba nakuha nito?? at pano?? may mga requirements ba ito?? minimum investment?? Studyante palang ksi ako.. pero may konting naipon na.. eh parang natutulog lng kasi ang pera pag nsa banko.. Di pa nmn pwede magnegosyo kasi nga nagaaral pa, dun palang ubos na buong araw ko.. hehe..

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2007, 07:18:10 am »
biyenan ko mayaman, kami ng misis ko (yung anak nya) pinababayaan kami maghirap  laffman::

magtanong ka sa mga bank may mga bank na nag-ooffer din nyan

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2007, 12:14:00 pm »
When I was minoring in Financial Management, we talked about this. It's quite easy to understand how mutual funds work. An entry in Wikipedia states that:

A mutual fund is a form of collective investments that pools money from many investors and invests their money in stocks, bonds, short-term money market instruments, and/or other securities.[1] In a mutual fund, the fund manager, who is also known as the portfolio manager, trades the fund's underlying securities, realizing capital gains or losses, and collects the dividend or interest income. The investment proceeds are then passed along to the individual investors. The value of a share of the mutual fund, known as the net asset value per share (NAV), is calculated daily based on the total value of the fund divided by the number of shares currently issued and outstanding.

If I remember correctly, mutual funds would only give you lots of income when it isn't saturated yet. Once it becomes too saturated, the fund income will be divided among the numerous investors, thus decreasing net income.



When it comes to stock market, you really need to study the trends regarding the shares of stock that you are holding or would want to hold. Basic is the rule of high risk- high rewards in Finance. In order to make the most out of your investments, you need to find the right combination of stocks to get the most reward while being exposed to the least risk. If you have trouble or do not know how to find the best combination, there are many financial analysts here in the country and you may ask help from them - of course with a price.

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 05:58:42 am »
About mutual funds. Tama sila, its safer than investing in the stock market, but your income would be smaller. Pero hindi rin ibig sabihin nun eh safe na ang pera mo at sure win ka na. Dapat  i research mo din ang track record ng mutual fund na gusto mong salihan. Kung magaling ang fund manager, solve ka. Pero kung bopols (which is unlikely), talo ka. Sa Mutual Funs, yung iba Php10 K ang minimum investment, that you can increase gradually. Yung iba 300K ang minimum.

About stock market, kung wala kang tyaga mag basaat manood ng business news, mahihirapan ka dto mag decide on your own. Pero kung mahilig ka talaga at tutok sa mga happenings sa ibat ibang business industries, try mo yung mga Online Broker, may listahan ang PSE dyan: http://www.pse.com.ph/html/MemberBrokerage/membersonline.jsp. Pag online broker, since online, yung certain percentage na binibigay usually sa human broker bilang bayad mo, nababawasan kaya mas lumalaki ang kita mo. Try mo yung CitisecOnline at sa BPI, yan kasi gamit ng officemate ko.

Kung gusto mo malaman kung may kakayahan ka mag kapera sa stocks at kung enough na sa iyo ang ganong kita, try mo muna maglaro ng Stock Trading Game ng PSE. Base yan sa mag presyo na naglalaro sa Philippine Stock Market. Fictional Money ang lalaruin mo... bibigyan ka nila ng 1 million pesos for your initial investment. Bahala ka na mag palago at mag palugi.

Try nio rin ang Timed-Deposits, better than regular banking in terms of interest rates.

And as always, kung saan ang pera doon pumupunta ang manggagantso. Just recently yata may ni raid ang NBI sa Enterprise Tower, mukhang nag de deal kasi yung mga business owners sa Mutual Fund kahit wala naman silang license. Itinatakbo lang yung pera ng investors nila. So ingat din.

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 06:12:10 am »
May I suggest that you look for financial advisers from Philamlife or Sunlife, if you know someone from these two financial companies, better ask them to explain the details on mutual funds or you can check on their websites to enlighten you further...ako kc sa Sunlife of Canada but I heard maganda rin sa Philamlife...mapagkakatiwalaan nman ang mga companies na to...your choice, up to you, good luck! toast::

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 11:09:19 am »
May I suggest that you look for financial advisers from Philamlife or Sunlife, if you know someone from these two financial companies, better ask them to explain the details on mutual funds or you can check on their websites to enlighten you further...ako kc sa Sunlife of Canada but I heard maganda rin sa Philamlife...mapagkakatiwalaan nman ang mga companies na to...your choice, up to you, good luck!

Libre lang ba consultation sa financial advisers nila kahit hindi ka sasali sa mutual funds nila?
Salamat.

OK din na source of information tong na mention ni afterburner dito sa topic na to:
Pinoy Money Talk - Where Pinoys are Making Money Together
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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 12:31:11 pm »

To look for local companies who offer mutual funds, try this website:

 www.icap.com.ph

They have daily comparison and update of earnings per share, plus a primer about mutual funds. I invested P50K in Sunlife 60 days ago, and it has earned P4K as of yesterday. They have the lowest sales load (commission) on my survey. Importante lang ang timing. Pag bagsak ang stock market, their NAVPS (Net Asset Value per Share) ay bumababa din like last Aug. 24, so you could buy more share and just wait until the price goes up again, then redeem before the the NAVPS go down. Mutual fund is for those who are not well versed in stock market and has low risk tolerance.

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2007, 10:44:03 pm »
sa canada san maganda maginvest ng mutual funds mga bro??

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 10:08:24 pm »
sa canada san maganda maginvest ng mutual funds mga bro??

punta ka sa banko mo tol... sila na maghandle nun at mag analyze kung anong magandang mutual fund ang para sayo...

meron kasi conservative, balanced at growth/income mutual fund... i think minimum of 25 dollars a month ang pede mong icontribute sa mutual fund mo... mas oks kung ilagay mo sya sa RRSP mo para tax sheltered sya at the end of the year.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2007, 02:39:12 am »
sa canada san maganda maginvest ng mutual funds mga bro??

punta ka sa banko mo tol... sila na maghandle nun at mag analyze kung anong magandang mutual fund ang para sayo...

meron kasi conservative, balanced at growth/income mutual fund... i think minimum of 25 dollars a month ang pede mong icontribute sa mutual fund mo... mas oks kung ilagay mo sya sa RRSP mo para tax sheltered sya at the end of the year.

ganun ba astig tol!! ikaw ba my mutual funda?? ok ba??

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2007, 10:19:51 am »
 meron ako pareng ichiru. tatlo ung mutual funds ko na nakalagay sa RRSP. sila na ang naghahandle, basta ako contribute lang ako ng 25 dollars every two weeks. kinukuha naman nila yun sa bank account mo automatically.
 isa sa CIBC, isa sa St. Willibrord, tapos sa Statefarm

hindi naman kasi ako magaling sa investments kaya sila na pinahahandle ko.

kung gusto mo rin, ask mo employer mo kung nag offer sila ng canada savings bond. i think, 3.25% interest yata right now. minimum of two dollars a month ang pede mong i contribute. kukunin nila every pay cheque mo. hindi mo mami miss ang perang hindi mo nakikita di ba?   
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2007, 12:32:55 pm »
meron ako pareng ichiru. tatlo ung mutual funds ko na nakalagay sa RRSP. sila na ang naghahandle, basta ako contribute lang ako ng 25 dollars every two weeks. kinukuha naman nila yun sa bank account mo automatically.
 isa sa CIBC, isa sa St. Willibrord, tapos sa Statefarm

hindi naman kasi ako magaling sa investments kaya sila na pinahahandle ko.

kung gusto mo rin, ask mo employer mo kung nag offer sila ng canada savings bond. i think, 3.25% interest yata right now. minimum of two dollars a month ang pede mong i contribute. kukunin nila every pay cheque mo. hindi mo mami miss ang perang hindi mo nakikita di ba?   

tol ayoko nung canda savings bond kc pinagaralan ko at nag research ng mga ibang bagay..mas maganda ung sa pcfinancial.. tawag dun sa account interest plus savings account 4.25% interest.. tatanog ako sa bangko ko kung ano ok?? thxs sa advice bro pokepoint::!! sayasaya::

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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 05:14:10 am »
Ever heard of KSKcoop ni Calayco?? Is it a form of Mutual Funds ba?? Sino sa inyo ang member nito??

Heto ang sites nila:

http://colaycofoundation1.com/
www.kskcoop.com



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Re: Mutual Funds at Stock Market issues
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2008, 10:00:20 am »
A little help lang mga ka-espiya.  Nag-invest kasi ang mom ko sa philamfund na naka invest yata sa GSIS Kabuhayan fund, 15000 ang na invest na namin since December 2007 last year kaya lang as of now nasa 9000 nalang ito!  Napapakamot nalang kami ng ulo dahil we made a big mistake from the start.  Ang plan namin eh kunin nalang yung 9000 tapos i-add yung konting naipon ko na 18k tapos ilagay nalang namin sa mutual fund sa BDO.  Any suggestions kung anong other banks or companies mas okey mag-invest ng mutual fund, I know I'm not gonna earn a lot figures pero gusto ko lang ma rectify yung mali namin last year.  Sarap kasi sipain yung nag-suggest sa amin nun.

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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2008, 10:20:22 am »
curious lang ako kasi mukhang maganda yung mutual funds na yan eh.. saan mo ba ipapasok mo pera diyan at paano?.. pati paano malalaman kumikita ka at paano mo naman makukuha yung pera na kinita mo?.. pati bakit may combination pa na kailangan para kumita ka ng malaki at ano yun?(xensya na sa daming tanong kasi very interesting talaga eh)

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