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Power Behind the Throne
« on: March 02, 2006, 11:36:18 am »
Naniniwala ba kayo na sa bawat elected president ng Pinas ay dapat may blessing galing sa US? More on like a ?brainchild? of US?

Example:
A book once said that when a candidate for Phil. presidency backed by US is having trouble with his rival, US then will unleash its dirty tactics from ?CIA??
Kilala nyo ba si Lansdale? Isa sya sa mga gumagawa ng effective tactics na nagpabagsak sa mga kalaban ng US-backed candidate, noong kapanahonan ni Magsaysay pa ata ?

How about now?
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 01:48:47 pm »
i thnk di lang naman saten, pati ibng bansa nitry ren ng us na iinfluence ang head of state....para shempre mas malakas hatak ng us......

shempre ayoko sa ganon....sovereign country tau n other countries shud not interfere sa lokal politics ng ibng bansa....
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2006, 12:28:54 am »
Tol pag nangyari ang ganon...mwawala na ang pgging democratic country ng Pinas...ibig sabhin is mgging tuta ulit tayo ng mga Kano na mgging sunod-sunoran sa naisin nila...
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2006, 05:19:34 am »
Oo nga bro ayaw ko rin nang ganon...... Magiging sunod sunoran sa ibang bansa...
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2006, 12:13:44 pm »
hehehe actually nayayari po ito hanggang ngayon... dahil sa "Utang na Loob" natin "daw" sa US... hehehee...

kung makikita nyo po ang Foreign policy ng Pinas, tinatapakan po it ng US... labas pasok ang kanilang produkto sa pinas na maliit lang ang buwis... this is a sort of kabayaran from what they did before... so parang lahat ng maging presdente ehhh bow sa US....

naalala nyo ba yong nag withdraw ang Pinas ng trpa sa Iraq kapalit sa buhay ni Juan de la Cruz? diba nagalit ang kano.. tsaka may sunod2x na problema ang dumarating sa pinas....
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2006, 03:27:59 pm »
undeniable n that US always throws its weight behind personalities who can protect american interest in the phils.  they did this actively especially in the past. i remember reading that during a past presidential election, they even put drugs in the drink of pres. garcia para sumemplang sya sa pag speech nya at d n sya mareelect ulit.
ang nakakahiya ay even our politicians are the ones courting the support of the americans, asking US to interfere in our affairs.  remember lacson? lipad sya ng US nung oras n tagilid n c ERap para iprisinta ang sarili nya bilang alternative.  ang remember during the coup during cory's time.  humingi din ng tulong ang bruha s US ng nagkakagulo n. 
it seems n ito rin ay iniexpect ng ibang mga tao.  natawa n lang ako nung nanonood ako ng coverage ng events noong panahon ng state of emergency dis february.  a reporter blatantly asked a US diplomat kung may plano daw ang mga kano n magintervene.  eng-eng talaga.
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2006, 12:14:08 am »
Pero kung ttingnan mo ang History ng Pilipinas mga pare ko...marami ang nagssabi na ang US daw ang talagang may utang sa Pilipinas...nagkabligtad lang ang sitwasyon dhil sa kaggawan ni Marcos....
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2006, 12:21:08 am »
Quote from: TigerClaw on March 05, 2006, 12:14:08 am
Pero kung ttingnan mo ang History ng Pilipinas mga pare ko...marami ang nagssabi na ang US daw ang talagang may utang sa Pilipinas...nagkabligtad lang ang sitwasyon dhil sa kaggawan ni Marcos....

oo tama ka dyan tiger.... may utang ang US sa atin sa kanilang mga worldwars... may kasulatan na kailangan nila i-compensate lahat ng nasira dahil sa worldwar..since nagtayo sila ng base dito....

nabaliktad ito dahil sa kagagawan ni marcos at katangahan ni cory.. sa time ni marcos, ang mga crony nya kasi panay loan sa labas at binulsa, then pagka oust ni marcos at si cory na ang namumuno... sinabi ni cory ito sa isang conference na "We promise to pay our debts"... kita nyo? pwede sana nyang sabihin na di na nya responsibilidad bayaran ang utang ng nakaraan na admin marcos...andaming nag comment non na mga pinoy, na pwede naman daw sabihin ni cory na Fraudulent Loan ang ginawa ni marcos kaya may reason sana sya na di bayaran ang utang ng nakaraang admin...    kaya eto na ang nangyari...
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 02:54:05 am »

For me, its from God especially what is happening now in the Philippines.

Voice of the people is the voice of God. what is higher 70 or 30, is it 70?

those people who try to bring down the present government, i believe consists only of 30, and you know who are they.

How about those people in the boondocs, the natives and others who are still supportive of the government or just making their daily living, the overseas workers,  and the rest of us who are part of 70?

God works in a mysterious ways, in a blink of an eye, things happened
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 09:15:20 am »
I beg to disagree na vox populi vox dei. Hindi yan totoo. Kung totoo yan, OK din pala ang Divine Right (to rule) ng Kings.

Yang mga conspiracy theories na yan, parte ng political urban legend ng mga bansa, lalo na sa kultura ngayon, mas madaling maikalat. Plus, sabi sa Da Vinci Code (tama ba?), everybody loves a mystery, and may I add, mysticism.

Maaaring totoo naman yung ibang claims, pero only history will tell.
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2006, 10:57:37 am »
tingin ko, di naman malayong mangyari yan.. The US has the resources and the capabilities to do such.i dont have solid evidence to prove that they truly have a hand on whose going to be our president. Pero i do know na ginawa na ito ng US noon with other countries..

If i remember correctly, sa Nicaragua yun.. Yung tinatawag nilang Contra Movement. Itong group na ito is allegedly backed up by the US by providing them with funds for their revolutionary movement to overthrow the junta in Nicaragua.. I think panahon ito ni Pres. Reagan.. ayaw kasi ng US sa form of government noon ng Nicaragua so pinakialaman nila at yun, bumagsak ang junta.. bale malaki ang impluwensya nila sa napiling bagong lider ng Nicaragua.. At recently lng, itong president ng Afghanistan is openly supported by the US nung elections pa lang..

Maaari tlgang maimpluwensyahan ng US kung sino ang magiging presidente natin, pero kung ayaw tlga ng majority ng mga Pilipino sa choice ng US, la rin silang magagawa.. Let's just hope they won't resolve to harsh actions..^_^

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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2006, 01:32:51 am »
Hindi naman malayong mangyari yun. Maraming kalokohan ang US. At kung kinocontrol nya nga talaga yung pilipinas. So balik Puppet Goverment nanaman tayo. Ang pangit nyan walang Freedom ang Bansa natin. Siguro kung nangyayari ito sa pilipinas, Nangyayari narin ito sa ibang bansa.
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2006, 06:58:28 am »
u r right and narinig ko rin na kaya di napatalsik si GMA ay dahil wala pang nakikita ang US na ipapalit sa kanya. not just sure if its really true...
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2006, 12:02:29 pm »
matagal na yang ginagawa ng U.S., lalo na nung kasagsagan ng communism.
thats the job of the CIA.
if the leader of a country is against US interests, they will find ways to bring that
leader down, either through US backed coup like in nicaragua, chile, venezuela, haiti, and indonesia, etc.
if they see that there is a strong opposition party, they will make an alliance and resort to propaganda. sometimes they also do assasinations.
and the ultimate solution if all others fail, there will be an invasion, like what happened in iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, grenada, panama, and others.
if a leader is going against US interests, he must have the overwhelming support of the vast majority of his countrymen in order to stand against US harassment. thats the best and more or less only defense against them.
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2006, 08:37:47 pm »
inaabuso ng US yung ating term na "Utang-na-Loob".... just recently nagbigay sila ng eroplano.... i dont think they did that for free.... hehehe baka gustong e-dismiss yung case sa Subic Rape.... just a thought....
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Re: Power Behind the Throne
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2006, 11:42:47 pm »
Pag dinismissed you malaking anomalya nanaman yan. Province ko Subic eh. Marami ako naririnig tungkol jan dati pero ngayon wala na.
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