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I'm not sure if you have comprehension issues or just purposely ignore the facts that other say to force your twisted reverence of Dutertard. Kung ayaw mong maniwala dun sa mga sinabi namin, go and backread news reports last year. Madami dun sa sinasabi mong "nanlaban" are just what reports of the police state but witnesses say otherwise. Kung ayaw mo naman sa smallfries then look at the 2 biggest issues. 1. Yung kinidnap nang mga pulis sa may southern tagalog then natagpuan na lang na patay. Buti nakita sa CCTV2. Espinossa. Nanlaban? sa loob nang jail sail after nyang sumuko at himingi nang WP? You must be daft if you seriously believe the official police repot even law experts agree the "killers" didn't follow the actual process. Pati nga si Bato sinibak yung head nung operation e. But guess what? Your god duterte overturned him and stopped investigations about the matter. If that isn't white washing I don't know what is.We are not discussing numbers or ratios here. Whether it's 1 death or a million death it does not change the fact that according to your definition, it is an EJK. But of course you will probably find another way to change your description of EJK and taylor it to Duterte's standards right?Paulit ulit na naming sinabi sa mga threads dito that it is Duterte's policy that enables corrupt cops to act. Sa tingin mo ba magagawa nila yan kung walang blanket protection from Duterte? Because of that order they can act on their own interests under the cover of the anti drug campaing. How hard it is to get that?
And yung scenario lang ang binigay kong example of what possible thing to do other than airstrike just rebutting that airstrike is not the only option from that angle. Malinaw na?
IF you want to be pedantic about it, then change holdap to carnap/kidnap/rape/murder/drugs and any other crime. It was just an example.
@etongIt's clearly evident that you are lacking in comprehension/analysis and your objectivity is practically non-existent. I mean, I tried pre. Tinagalog ko na yung mga punto ko in the hopes of furthering this discussion pero wala eh. They seem to go way over your head and you just end up regurgitating the same irrelevant arguments. At this point, engaging you would be an exercise in futility. So what I'm gonna do instead is do something like a closing argument. Now, I don't expect you to comprehend this any better than my previous posts; this is just to clear my head and attempt to polish my points for those genuinely trying to make sense of the matter.1. Again, you asked for a rebuttal so I gave you a couple. But instead of dissecting and analyzing the links I presented, you went defensive and used smoke and mirrors. I mean, you could have at least offered some sort of counter argument to at least mitigate the tone of my rebuttals. Just goes to show how feeble your stand in the matter is in the first place.2. It was meant to induce thought (Which you clearly lack). Instead, you used a strawman argument just so you could have a semblance of a point. Aso yung pinaguusapan out of the blue pinasok mo yung airstrike. And then you had to double down and claim na pinagkukumpara ko ung airstrike sa aso when I never even mentioned anything close to an airstrike. LOL SAD! Just so you know, the message I was trying to impart is this: lahat nang bagay may pros and cons. May good side and may bad side. You can't just focus on one part then judge its entirety.3 & 4. It actually connects with #2. Walang nag cclaim saamin na walang downside ang mga airstrikes. Na it's all good and wala siyang adverse na effect. Actually, if you browse through this thread eh iisang tao lang yung nag "downplay" sa collateral damages calling it a non-issue and that's you. Again, to reiterate, alam namin yung disadvantages ng airstrikes, pero ung mga advantages na ibinibigay niya are far greater. And as a couple of people have already pointed out in this thread, kung mas mataas yung risk vs reward of conducting an air strike they simply abort. Basically, bakit pagdating sa mga airstrikes nakatutok ka lang sa mga negative effects niya and bakit hindi mo kinokonsidera yung mga advantages na ibinibigay niya? 5. Hahaha! Natatawa talaga ako how you base your arguments from your own conjectures instead of simply comprehending things and yet you still fail at it. Eto mismo yung ibig kong sabihin. Instead na airstrike yung alternative option mo is hayaang paputukan yung mga tropa natin dahil hindi naman unli yung mga bala nang mga rebelde. Haha! Anong nangyari dun sa "good luck to the police while they're being targeted in the head and in the heart" argument mo? Literal na na good luck sana nga hindi ka matamaan? Last dig pre: Napansin mo ba na in this thread, almost all posts disagree with your arguments? And nobody seems to share your sentiments? Reminds of that one HIMYM quote: "If you can't spot the crazy person in the bus, it's you." Still wouldn't change the fact that they're liable to being punished by our existing laws.
Forget my definition, side and opinions. Wag mo na ko pansinin. Tignan mo na lang ang records if they would scream ejk in this war on drugs. If you think i am in favor of ejks for supporting war on drugs, that is fine. Its clear i wont be able to let you think otherwise at this point, so lets agree to disagree nalang. I'll let the records speak for itself on my behalf.No hard feelings bro. I just feel di tayo magkakasundo sa issue na to. So lets just stop already and move on to other matters.
Still wouldn't change the fact that they're liable to being punished by our existing laws.
how would you know someone's a "true criminal"?
kung gusto natin patunayan na hindi to totoo, ang point ba natin is Saint, or hindi mamamatay tao ang mga cojuanco-aquino?
Kung totoo man oh hindi ito, eh ano naman?Gaya nga ng sinabi ko, ilang dekada na may nagaganap na airstrikes sa Pinas. Long before Cory and long after her.Kakabalita lang kagabi sa TV. Nag airstrike ulit ang PAF sa Butig, Lanao del Sur, marking the first ever combat mission of our new Fa-50ph..
kasi walang nagbabalita sa yearly massacre sa Hacienda nila.
is this verified sir? how was the fa-50 in it's first sortie?
It was reported on TV Patrol. There were discussions on a number of credible FB pages as well. You can read about it in MaxDefense, Pinoy Aviators or in Defense of the Republic of the Philippines (the old Timawa.net fb page). There are also several pictures of Fa-50PH #001 and #004 taken in mactan cebu (Benito Ebuen AB). Its speculated that the strike came from there.. It was also said to be a night attack.
Doesn't matter, the point is it answered your question of
Your question was how I would know if someone is a true criminal and I gave you a very direct and simple answer.
However this is not the thread for an argument about that so feel free to create your own thread and I'll happily listen to your great ethical standards.
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