Topic: Duterte Delivers Most Powerful Speech To Chinese Investors & Businessmen

[A7x]

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[TobleRONe]

Ano na nangyari dito? Bakit di pa napag-usapan ang WPS?

“Kapag sinabi [ng UN arbitral tribunal] na panalo tayo at ayaw ng China, I will not go to war. Pupunta ako sa China. Ngayon 'pag ayaw nila, I will ask the Navy to bring me to the nearest boundary, diyan sa Spratly, sa Scarborough,” Duterte said.

“Bababa ako at sasakay ako ng jetski, dala dala ko ang flag ng Filipino at pupunta ako dun sa airport [ng China] tapos itanim ko. I will say, 'This is ours and do what you want with me'," he added.

[KaMushroom]

Ano na nangyari dito? Bakit di pa napag-usapan ang WPS?

Inaangkin na ng china yung WPS tapos ayaw idefend ni duterte eh.
As if naman defending your own territory is an act of war. Haha Ewan ko nalang talaga.
Subukan niyang kantahin yung lupang hinirang dito sa pilipinas bibigwasan ko yan kung pwede lang e.

[A7x]

Ano na nangyari dito? Bakit di pa napag-usapan ang WPS?

In my opinion, as I watch PRRDs press conference in China, he said he will not discuss that issue for now unless Pres Xijinping opens up about it as a courtesy on China's goodwill sa pagpunta nila duon. His primary target is to establish economic relationship from china which the US have longed ignored. As a result he brought 1 trillion pesos from China that would create 2 million jobs to filipinos in the next 5 years.. As you can see it will benefit all filipinos. Next stop would be Japan and I heard PM Abe will have a private meeting with PRRD once he arrived in Japan. Next is Russia. I noticed his visits from Brunei going to Russia marami syang dalang pasalubong na mag bebenefit sa mga pinoy so I'm hopeful that all his state visits will be successful. Setting aside all the negativity what we all after is the betterment of the Filipinos in the long run..

[rodeo]

ayaw nya na sinasabihan siya ng USA pero mukhang bow ng bow sa  China. KUng ayaw niya pag usapan ang spratly dahil baka gyerahin tyo ng china  eh dapat di siya makitransact sa china baka next time buong Pilipinas na pinapatakbo ng mainland China business/ businesssman.

[weng151515]

a lunatic president whose word has been never taken seriously by any member of his cabinet....as we all know, whatever he says, a cabinet member is there to interpret it for the people to know what he means to say....

as for the topic...

US and UE was always been a reliable partner of this country, militarily, economically and aids as we says balance with regards to whatever they can get from us....as for CHINA what we get is the other way around, lunatic president bargains whats actually ours... kinuha nila ang WPS at yun ang ibibigay nila sa atin.... Oooops di pala ibibigay medyo papayagan lang pala tayo mangisda sa pag aari natin...

one of this coming days we can expect some noise and turmoil within the cabinet, the senate and the house....why????BECAUSE the president decide whatever he wants to happen in this country bypassing the senate and the house...

[A7x]

a lunatic president whose word has been never taken seriously by any member of his cabinet....as we all know, whatever he says, a cabinet member is there to interpret it for the people to know what he means to say....

as for the topic...

US and UE was always been a reliable partner of this country, militarily, economically and aids as we says balance with regards to whatever they can get from us....as for CHINA what we get is the other way around, lunatic president bargains whats actually ours... kinuha nila ang WPS at yun ang ibibigay nila sa atin.... Oooops di pala ibibigay medyo papayagan lang pala tayo mangisda sa pag aari natin...

one of this coming days we can expect some noise and turmoil within the cabinet, the senate and the house....why????BECAUSE the president decide whatever he wants to happen in this country bypassing the senate and the house...

What's the point of having a 70yrs military alliance if your former colonial master cannot help you in protecting 200nm EEZ?? Masyado na kasi tayo na hook sa US and we are looking at them as a strong foundation to lean when there is something happens. Our colonial mentality strike at the height of the situation. But the question is, are they looking the same way to us? Do we really have number to them or we are just something that is useful in terms of their vested interest? Nag babasa ako ng comments ng mga Amerikano sinsabi nila hindi namin kailangan ang Pilipinas ang Pilipinas ang may kailangan sa Amerika,nasinasabi ng mga kano na para tayong linta na sumisipsip sa mga tax nila,at hindi tayo kawalan,ganyan tayo kababa sa kanilang paningin,samantalang ,ang taas ng tingin natin sa mga Kano... Are they really concern on what our country is passing through? Would this be a good time for us to change our perspective? Would this be a good time for us to stood up and make changes? We have nothing to loose anyway. US has been with us but nothing really happened with our country. US AIDE?? If you research enough tayo ang long time ally ng US pero compare to Japan (former enemy), Korea, Egypt at Pakistan (not an US ally) we are just a fraction compare to billions na binibigay nila sa mga bansang yun Oh yes we are grateful but for many decades from one president to another napaka istupido naman ata ng US na ang perang binibigay sa pinas ay hinahayaan lang nila na sa bulsa ng mga corrupt mapunta.. Nung tinanong sila na dedpensahan ba talaga ng US ang pilipinas sa WPS ang sagot lang "IRON CLAD" we want specifics hindi yung paasa lang bakit sa Japan specific yung sinagot ng america na kasama ang senkaku island sa mutual defense treaty nila ng bansang hapon pero sa atin GENERAL STATEMENTS uncertain yung sagot.. Think about it.. 

[A7x]

Dun pala sa nagtanong kung nasaan na yung jetski na maglalagay si PRRD ng flag sa Scarborough di natuloy yun kasi sumakay sya nang eroplano at duon na sa beijing nilagay ang flag ng pilipinas...

[TobleRONe]

Hindi naman sya ang nagtanim ng flag. at hindi rin naman nya sinabing "This is ours and do what you want with me"

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isa pa, utang pa rin ng mamamayang Pilipino ang pasalubong nya. i understand na kailangan natin ng pera pampagawa ng government ng infrastacture, pero after 6 years hindi na sya presidente, babayaran pa rin ng mamamayan ang utang na iyon.

ano na kaya masasabi ng mga militante about utang ng Pilipinas?

[bigbanggoo]

What's the point of having a 70yrs military alliance if your former colonial master cannot help you in protecting 200nm EEZ?? Masyado na kasi tayo na hook sa US and we are looking at them as a strong foundation to lean when there is something happens. Our colonial mentality strike at the height of the situation. But the question is, are they looking the same way to us? Do we really have number to them or we are just something that is useful in terms of their vested interest? Nag babasa ako ng comments ng mga Amerikano sinsabi nila hindi namin kailangan ang Pilipinas ang Pilipinas ang may kailangan sa Amerika,nasinasabi ng mga kano na para tayong linta na sumisipsip sa mga tax nila,at hindi tayo kawalan,ganyan tayo kababa sa kanilang paningin,samantalang ,ang taas ng tingin natin sa mga Kano... Are they really concern on what our country is passing through? Would this be a good time for us to change our perspective? Would this be a good time for us to stood up and make changes? We have nothing to loose anyway. US has been with us but nothing really happened with our country. US AIDE?? If you research enough tayo ang long time ally ng US pero compare to Japan (former enemy), Korea, Egypt at Pakistan (not an US ally) we are just a fraction compare to billions na binibigay nila sa mga bansang yun Oh yes we are grateful but for many decades from one president to another napaka istupido naman ata ng US na ang perang binibigay sa pinas ay hinahayaan lang nila na sa bulsa ng mga corrupt mapunta.. Nung tinanong sila na dedpensahan ba talaga ng US ang pilipinas sa WPS ang sagot lang "IRON CLAD" we want specifics hindi yung paasa lang bakit sa Japan specific yung sinagot ng america na kasama ang senkaku island sa mutual defense treaty nila ng bansang hapon pero sa atin GENERAL STATEMENTS uncertain yung sagot.. Think about it.. 

And what makes you think na hindi ganun yung tingin satin nang mga intsik? Are you even aware of what kind of discrimanation filipinos are facing in mainland China compared to Filipinos abroad? Kinukumpara mo yung tulong nang US sa Pinas against Korea, Egypt and Pakistan pero alam mo bang lahat nang mga bansang yun e nasa gera ngayon? Also, I'm not sure kung anong research ang ginawa mo pero the US would not hesitate to defend our territory against China if it comes to it, ang problema lang naman e yung agreement which Aquino was incompetent to close and Duterte is against. And wag mong ipagmalaki yung 24billion loan kasi loans yun at taxpayers ang nagbabayad nun. Proproblemahin pa yun nang pinas nang ilang dekada. At ano namang epekto nang flag na yan? Mapapakinabangan ba yan nang mga mangingisdang hinarass nang mga intsik sa spratlys?

[A7x]

Hindi naman sya ang nagtanim ng flag. at hindi rin naman nya sinabing "This is ours and do what you want with me"

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isa pa, utang pa rin ng mamamayang Pilipino ang pasalubong nya. i understand na kailangan natin ng pera pampagawa ng government ng infrastacture, pero after 6 years hindi na sya presidente, babayaran pa rin ng mamamayan ang utang na iyon.

ano na kaya masasabi ng mga militante about utang ng Pilipinas?

Well sino bang bansa ang walang utang?? Even ang America may utang sa China ng $1T. China is an economic power ngayon weather we like it or not.. We need to boost our economy by building infrastructure and industrialize and sa kanino ba tayo pwede humingi ng tulong?? Sa US?? sa EU?? halos tinututulan nga tayong umunlad ang gusto mangyari eh maging dependent lang tayo sa AIDE nila.. It's the question of after 6 years kung mag hahalal ba tayo ng CORRUPT or HINDI.. at least we have 6 years na maka simula sa pag unlad..

[tiberionx]

you need money to make money ...

this six year term will be outside the status quo that our generation was used to. take in his different perspective and enjoy the ride.

change is definitely happening.

[A7x]

And what makes you think na hindi ganun yung tingin satin nang mga intsik? Are you even aware of what kind of discrimanation filipinos are facing in mainland China compared to Filipinos abroad? Kinukumpara mo yung tulong nang US sa Pinas against Korea, Egypt and Pakistan pero alam mo bang lahat nang mga bansang yun e nasa gera ngayon? Also, I'm not sure kung anong research ang ginawa mo pero the US would not hesitate to defend our territory against China if it comes to it, ang problema lang naman e yung agreement which Aquino was incompetent to close and Duterte is against. And wag mong ipagmalaki yung 24billion loan kasi loans yun at taxpayers ang nagbabayad nun. Proproblemahin pa yun nang pinas nang ilang dekada. At ano namang epekto nang flag na yan? Mapapakinabangan ba yan nang mga mangingisdang hinarass nang mga intsik sa spratlys?

Do you think magpapa hiram ang CHINA ng ganyan kalaki kung pagdududa na katulad ng iniisip mo ang nasa isip nila?? Yes discrimination is everywhere kahit sa UK and EU even sa US.. Historically nag umpisa lang naman ang hidwaan ng CHINA-PINAS dahil sa scarborough pero we have been trading partners daan daang siglo na ang nakalipas even before the spaniards came.. The difference between CHINA and the WEST, hindi sila nakikialam sa domestic affairs ng isang bansa o SOVEREIGN STATE.. Sa tingin mo kung seryosong dedepensahan ng AMERIKA ang pinas in the first place hindi sana nila hinayaan ma angkin ng CHINA ang WPS eh may mga military base na ang CHINA duon ano ginawa ng US?? POSTURE lang?? If we look at the technicality ng MUTUAL DEFENSE TREATY natin sa US that is already an INVASION pero pina alis ba nila ang CHINA duon??? Wag ipagmalaki ang $24B sa panahon ngayon sa tingin mo may ibang bansa pabang magpapa utang sa pinas given the fact na bad record na tayo sa WORLD BANK dahil sa mga loan na hindi pa nababayaran?? We need to LOAN money para umusbong ang ating ekonomiya. If gastosin ng maayos at iwas corruption seguradong malayo ang mararating ng bansa natin at mababayaran yan..

[naruto789544]

let us just hope for the best... let history judge the actions of the government...

[bigbanggoo]

Do you think magpapa hiram ang CHINA ng ganyan kalaki kung pagdududa na katulad ng iniisip mo ang nasa isip nila?? Yes discrimination is everywhere kahit sa UK and EU even sa US.. Historically nag umpisa lang naman ang hidwaan ng CHINA-PINAS dahil sa scarborough pero we have been trading partners daan daang siglo na ang nakalipas even before the spaniards came.. The difference between CHINA and the WEST, hindi sila nakikialam sa domestic affairs ng isang bansa o SOVEREIGN STATE.. Sa tingin mo kung seryosong dedepensahan ng AMERIKA ang pinas in the first place hindi sana nila hinayaan ma angkin ng CHINA ang WPS eh may mga military base na ang CHINA duon ano ginawa ng US?? POSTURE lang?? If we look at the technicality ng MUTUAL DEFENSE TREATY natin sa US that is already an INVASION pero pina alis ba nila ang CHINA duon??? Wag ipagmalaki ang $24B sa panahon ngayon sa tingin mo may ibang bansa pabang magpapa utang sa pinas given the fact na bad record na tayo sa WORLD BANK dahil sa mga loan na hindi pa nababayaran?? We need to LOAN money para umusbong ang ating ekonomiya. If gastosin ng maayos at iwas corruption seguradong malayo ang mararating ng bansa natin at mababayaran yan..

Wala silang pagdududa kasi pinamigay na nga ni Duterte yung pilipinas sa kanila e. Yun yung kapalit, or talagang nagbubulag bulagan ka lang? Hindi sila nakikialam sa sovereign state except they just claimed WPS for their own trampling on our sovereignty? Way to show how little your understanding of the situation is. So ano sa tingin mo dapat ginawa nang US? Atakihin nila yung station nang China sa spratlys kahit wala yun sa agreement nila with the Philippines? That is wrong on all levels. Yup talagang walang magpapautang nang malaki sa Pinas nang walang kapalit. Kung yung sa US e VFA lang yung kapalit yung sa China e actual territory na yung kapalit.

[tiberionx]

^ So ano po ba gusto nyo mangyari sa spartlys, sir? tayo ba dapat umatake sa china? patay kung patay!

manindigan na sa atin ang teritoryo at palayasin sila? kung international court nga hindi pinansin tayo pa kaya?

nag patintero lang ang US saka china sa south china sea, mainip talo

[A7x]

Wala silang pagdududa kasi pinamigay na nga ni Duterte yung pilipinas sa kanila e. Yun yung kapalit, or talagang nagbubulag bulagan ka lang? Hindi sila nakikialam sa sovereign state except they just claimed WPS for their own trampling on our sovereignty? Way to show how little your understanding of the situation is. So ano sa tingin mo dapat ginawa nang US? Atakihin nila yung station nang China sa spratlys kahit wala yun sa agreement nila with the Philippines? That is wrong on all levels. Yup talagang walang magpapautang nang malaki sa Pinas nang walang kapalit. Kung yung sa US e VFA lang yung kapalit yung sa China e actual territory na yung kapalit.

Really?? How sure are you na pinamigay na ni duterte ang spratlys sa kanila ma documento ka bang nagpapatunay?? Hindi panga nila napaguusapan ang topic na yun nag aassume kana agad.. Are you even listening to the news.. He said na China and the PH  will talk about the dispute in the latter time unless it will be opened by the Chinese sa kanilang bilateral talks.. Duterte even said na ayaw nya nang joint exploration dahil against ito sa constitution and without the consent of the filipinos involved in that area.. Kung sa tingin mo mas matalino kapa sa presidente eh IKAW na sana ang tumakbo abogado yan at alam nya ginagawa nya.. Pilit nyong pinabango ang US without realizing kung maganda paba na mag rely tayo sa kanila both economic and military after all these years ikaw yata ang nagbubulagbulagan.. Ano ang kapalit?? Of course we trade them our agricultural products like Bananas etc.. they just lifted their bans ng saging and it will benefit our farmers bigtime.. WPS is another story all we can do right now is to speculate dahil they never talked about it sa CHINA as of now all we hear from news are strictly business trading and investments opportunity for both sides.. Kung mas matimbang pa sayo ang PRIDE kesa magpa kumbaba and make friends para sa ikaka unlad ng ekonomiya natin ikaw nalang and besides wala naman tayong sinusuko sa WPS..

[bigbanggoo]

Eh? That's exactly the case. Hindi nila ididiscuss kasi alam naman nyang hindi na ibabalik nang China yun. Gets? That's how politics work. So what if he said na ayaw nya nang joint exploration? As if his word is good enough. History shows that he is not a man of his word. So kapalit pala nang billion investments e saging lang? Opening trade routes is good but it does not in anyway benefit China more than PH which means hindi ito enough na kapalit nung "tulong" nila. Walang anti Duterte na nagpapabango nang pangalan nang US. We all know na may kapalit yung mga tulong nila. On the contrary yung mga dutertards ang nagpapabango nang pangalan nang China.

Kung mas matimbang pa sayo ang PRIDE kesa magpa kumbaba and make friends para sa ikaka unlad ng ekonomiya natin ikaw nalang and besides wala naman tayong sinusuko sa WPS..

Hypocrisy at its finest. Tell that to Duterte. Kasi sabi mo nga, kesa magpakumbaba and make friends e he decided to cast away our decades long friend in the name of his pride. Sabi nga ni Agot, hindi naman sya inaaway nang US, sya lang yung meron unreasonable aggressive stance against them since the start. 

ung sa tingin mo mas matalino kapa sa presidente eh IKAW na sana ang tumakbo abogado yan at alam nya ginagawa nya..

Classic dutertard mentality. Can't win on arguments so resorts to ad hominems. Keyboard warrior at its finest. And you guys wonder why you're called tards.

[A7x]

Eh? That's exactly the case. Hindi nila ididiscuss kasi alam naman nyang hindi na ibabalik nang China yun. Gets? That's how politics work. So what if he said na ayaw nya nang joint exploration? As if his word is good enough. History shows that he is not a man of his word. So kapalit pala nang billion investments e saging lang? Opening trade routes is good but it does not in anyway benefit China more than PH which means hindi ito enough na kapalit nung "tulong" nila. Walang anti Duterte na nagpapabango nang pangalan nang US. We all know na may kapalit yung mga tulong nila. On the contrary yung mga dutertards ang nagpapabango nang pangalan nang China.
Hypocrisy at its finest. Tell that to Duterte. Kasi sabi mo nga, kesa magpakumbaba and make friends e he decided to cast away our decades long friend in the name of his pride. Sabi nga ni Agot, hindi naman sya inaaway nang US, sya lang yung meron unreasonable aggressive stance against them since the start. 

Classic dutertard mentality. Can't win on arguments so resorts to ad hominems. Keyboard warrior at its finest. And you guys wonder why you're called tards.

From the very beginning its obvious na ayaw mo sa presidente.. Secondly given na ayaw ng China na ibalik ang WPS?? May magagawa ba tayo?? or Even ang US?? Hinayaan nanga nila na hinaharass tayo duon kahit may treaty pa tayo so ano gusto mo gawin ng presidente?? Katulad din ni PNOY na mag astang astig na alam naman nating di natin kaya at walang tutulong sa atin pag nagka gyera iba na ang gyera ngayon pag nagkataon we are talking about NUKES pag nagka gyera may magagawa ba ang Amerika?? we will be wiped out.. Saging lang? Thats a million dollar export ng pinas sa ibang bansa and number 1 importer ang CHINA thats just one of the many products na pwede ma trade.. Eh sino ba namang bansa sa tingin mo walang hidden interest sa atin US at China?? Kung walang anti duterte na nagpapabango ng US, pero parang mas gusto mo pang mamulubi ang pinas with US compare sa goodwill na pinapakita ng China na pwedeng magpa unlad sa pinas? Problema ng mga anti duterte they are active on criticizing the president and ignoring ang mga magagandang nagawa nito na at the end of the day makikinabang din naman sila sa resulta.. Ika nga ng presidente "People judge best when they condemn." Di man lang sila makatulong mag provide ng solusyon sa problema ng ating bansa.. Minamaliit na tayo ng mga Amerikano kung titingnan mo mga comments nila pero mas gusto pa natin yun.. Unbelievable.. Sinali pa si agot na walang alam binabastos na presidente mo sa ibang bansa sa mga pahayagan nila at tinatawag na kung ano ano okay lang padin sa kanya...

[KaMushroom]

Even a Hundred billion PAYMENT, NOT A LOAN is nothing compared to those territory that we are losing.
That will be forever be there. In that strategic spot. Cut throat to all nations that currently opposes it in that piece of water.
He is giving up a piece of our land. Our state is composed of Us, the people, Our territory and our government.
He's already forsaken a number of our people, because they are criminals (Which forfeits all their rights apparently cuz fuck CHR). Now he's just letting the WPS issue slide.
If this is not treason I dont know what this shit is. I really dont understand how you can defend this, knowing for a FACT that he had a meeting with chinese officials before the elections.
It's either you dont accept this hard facts or you too are part of their SocMed Team.

Yung kay PNoy, he fought using the unclos. The treaty that you are talking about. The decision came after his term.
China started during GMA's term. THE SAME GMA THAT IS DUTERTES ALLY. Iba yung umaangal, sa pumapalag, sa walang ginagawa, sa winewolcome ang mga mananakop. Even LapuLapu would slap Duterte for what he's doing.

At wag mong ipilit na gyera ang kapalit ng pagtatangol sa ating sariling teritoryo. FYI LAHAT NG BANSA PINAGTATANGOL ANG KANILANG TERITORYO, LAHAT BA UNDER WAR? Iba yung pagtatangol sa pamimigay.

[bigbanggoo]

From the very beginning its obvious na ayaw mo sa presidente.. Secondly given na ayaw ng China na ibalik ang WPS?? May magagawa ba tayo?? or Even ang US?? Hinayaan nanga nila na hinaharass tayo duon kahit may treaty pa tayo so ano gusto mo gawin ng presidente?? Katulad din ni PNOY na mag astang astig na alam naman nating di natin kaya at walang tutulong sa atin pag nagka gyera iba na ang gyera ngayon pag nagkataon we are talking about NUKES pag nagka gyera may magagawa ba ang Amerika?? we will be wiped out.. Saging lang? Thats a million dollar export ng pinas sa ibang bansa and number 1 importer ang CHINA thats just one of the many products na pwede ma trade.. Eh sino ba namang bansa sa tingin mo walang hidden interest sa atin US at China?? Kung walang anti duterte na nagpapabango ng US, pero parang mas gusto mo pang mamulubi ang pinas with US compare sa goodwill na pinapakita ng China na pwedeng magpa unlad sa pinas? Problema ng mga anti duterte they are active on criticizing the president and ignoring ang mga magagandang nagawa nito na at the end of the day makikinabang din naman sila sa resulta.. Ika nga ng presidente "People judge best when they condemn." Di man lang sila makatulong mag provide ng solusyon sa problema ng ating bansa.. Minamaliit na tayo ng mga Amerikano kung titingnan mo mga comments nila pero mas gusto pa natin yun.. Unbelievable.. Sinali pa si agot na walang alam binabastos na presidente mo sa ibang bansa sa mga pahayagan nila at tinatawag na kung ano ano okay lang padin sa kanya...

Galit na galit ka dun sa pangmamaliit nang mga Amerikanong commenters e alam mo ba yung mga sinasabi nang Chinese about Filipinos sa Weibo? E sa SG Forums? They are worse. Naalala mo kung pano trinato nang mga intsik yung national team natin dati?

Kakatapos lang nung live prescon ni Duterte sa Davao. He was asked about scarborough and his response is that basically it will be up to the Chinese authrities which just confirms na he practically gave our territory away. Or sold it, if you think that's better. You are delusional if you seriously think China gave us all those money out of their "Goodwill".

[KaMushroom]

You are delusional if you seriously think China gave us all those money out of their "Goodwill".

Even IKEA, isang kompanya lang, donated more during the yolanda aftermath than china's 100k$
He even thinks the US commenters talk shit about duterte. FYI They talk shit because of his decisions.
Chinese talks shit to us because we are filipinos. May american restaurants ba na no filipinos allowed?
Natatawa ako sa mga to eh. Lakas ng loob nilang magsabi na tiwala,researchresearch di daw natin alam takbo ng mundo.
WTF hahaha basically non-sequitur remarks.
Minsan napapaisip nalang ako kung magrereply pa ba ako kasi minsan dimo alam kung kasama sa propaganda machine yung kausap mo o hindi eh.

[A7x]

Galit na galit ka dun sa pangmamaliit nang mga Amerikanong commenters e alam mo ba yung mga sinasabi nang Chinese about Filipinos sa Weibo? E sa SG Forums? They are worse. Naalala mo kung pano trinato nang mga intsik yung national team natin dati?

Kakatapos lang nung live prescon ni Duterte sa Davao. He was asked about scarborough and his response is that basically it will be up to the Chinese authrities which just confirms na he practically gave our territory away. Or sold it, if you think that's better. You are delusional if you seriously think China gave us all those money out of their "Goodwill".

Up to the Chinese authorities to what??? Here you go again "ASSUMING." You are so against China when both of them are the same.  When you are a president and your back is against the wall and what is at stake ay kinabukasan at kaunlaran ng bansa mo, sino ang pipiliin mo ang matagal mo nang kaibigan na pakialamero, walang pake, at nanunumbat or duon sa kagalit mong willing isantabi ang di nyo pagkakaunawaan para tulungan kang bumangon sa pagka lubog.. 

[bigbanggoo]

Up to the Chinese authorities to what??? Here you go again "ASSUMING." You are so against China when both of them are the same.  When you are a president and your back is against the wall and what is at stake ay kinabukasan at kaunlaran ng bansa mo, sino ang pipiliin mo ang matagal mo nang kaibigan na pakialamero, walang pake, at nanunumbat or duon sa kagalit mong willing isantabi ang di nyo pagkakaunawaan para tulungan kang bumangon sa pagka lubog..
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Assuming? Did you even read what I posted? I didn't say that, Duterte did from his live interview. Next time understand what you read first before reacting.

Back against the wall? Did you just disregard the part where Philippine's back is against the wall because of China? Who created the tension in the WPS? Sino nagtayo nang base dun at nagpalayas sa mga pinoy fisherman?  There won't be any WPS confilct in the first place without China. So you can blame the US all you want but the fact is they did not start the tension in WPS. China did. Our backs wouldn't be against the wall in the first place against them

nang kaibigan na pakialamero, walang pake,
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Please make up your mind.

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Up to the Chinese authorities to what??? Here you go again "ASSUMING." You are so against China when both of them are the same.  When you are a president and your back is against the wall and what is at stake ay kinabukasan at kaunlaran ng bansa mo, sino ang pipiliin mo ang matagal mo nang kaibigan na pakialamero, walang pake, at nanunumbat or duon sa kagalit mong willing isantabi ang di nyo pagkakaunawaan para tulungan kang bumangon sa pagka lubog..
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Assuming? Did you even read what I posted? I didn't say that, Duterte did from his live interview. Next time understand what you read first before reacting.

Back against the wall? Did you just disregard the part where Philippine's back is against the wall because of China? Who created the tension in the WPS? Sino nagtayo nang base dun at nagpalayas sa mga pinoy fisherman?  There won't be any WPS confilct in the first place without China. So you can blame the US all you want but the fact is they did not start the tension in WPS. China did. Our backs wouldn't be against the wall in the first place against them

nang kaibigan na pakialamero, walang pake,
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Please make up your mind.

The question is kaya ba nating palayasin sila duon?? What would be your solution?? WAR?? Kaya ba natin?? Or we TALK to them.. Lahat ng mga ANTI antatalino nyong mag criticize ni isang solusyon wala naman kayong maibigay.. You can blame the president all you want, dislike him all day with his decision making. You have 6 years to do that kung ikakayaman ng ekonomiya ng pinas yan good luck..