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Should I look for another work? HELP!
« on: May 04, 2016, 07:40:59 am »
mga sir..Good Day! medyo confused po ako..im currently working at OPPO Smartphone as Promoter..should I look for a job na may government benefits like Philhealth, SSS and etc? tinanggal na kasi sa Company namin..kumikita po ako ng more or less P20k kada isang buwan as sahud tsaka meron pang -2k for Tax..napag-isip-isip ko lang, kasi lalo mangayon may baby na ako na binubuhay diba..plan ko sana mag apply as Sales sa mga sasakyan like Mitsubishi..pwde ba ako mag apply kahit HS Grad lang ako? im good at selling nga pala, I also do buy in sell as sideline..

Dapat ba ako mghanap ng ibang work kahit na hindi Car Fealer as long as may government benefits at kahit maliit lang sahod? pls help..


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Re: Should I look for another work? HELP!
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 07:46:22 am »
Yup kailangan mong lumipat dre, dahil basic yong mga benefits sa company dapat talaga mayroon ka niyan kung wala ang hirap niyan tumatanda tayo kailangan natin yan sooner or later. HS grad? hindi batayan yan para maka pasok ka sa magandang pang hanap buhay. Lalo nat nasa sales ang expertise dami mong mapasukan dre.


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Re: Should I look for another work? HELP!
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 08:20:27 am »
dude, since may background ka sa sales at customer relations. why not try BPO?

competitive din naman ang salary at mga benifits. 6 months kang provi, after 6 months pwede ka maregular. after 3 months sa pagiging regular, pwede ka na magpapromote, either TL or trainer. in less than a year baka hindi ka na agent.

tip: napakadali ng credit card application account. magbabasa ka lang ng disclosure at mag-aassist ka lang sa online application. at sasagutin mo lang tanong ng customer about promo sa card.

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 10:11:37 am »
for me no ts... don't resign for now without making sure you have another work waiting for you... try to look for part time work to augment your finances... for now if you are concerned with benefits, you can pay voluntarily with philhealth, sss and pagibig so that your contributions is updated... your income is above minimum and looking for a better paying job is not that easy... try to find ways ts... that is my stand with your question....

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 11:29:10 am »
don't resign .

just apply for sss, philhealth , pag ibig then apply ka din ng HMO.

palakihin mo nalang yun sideline mo na buy and sell... For a high school grad kasi mas malaki pa kinikita mo kesa sa ibang graduate.... so, sayang  kung pupunta ka s ibang work tpos ang pag unlad naman is based kung grad ka or hindi...

tandaan sa buy and sell karamihan yumayaman ang mga tao... isa sa mga natandaan ko sinabi sa amin dati is kung gusto mo makasurvive magwork ka kung gusto mo yumaman mag negosyo ka...

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 08:24:05 pm »
sss, philhealth, pag-ibig are required from all employers. kahit carinderia ang negosyo, all employers are required to register their employees sa sss, philhealth, pag-ibig (kahit nga kasambahay need narin kunan). if the employer has not registered then may violation yan sila. baka naman under agency kayo. some agencies kasi sa mga reports nila sa company you have deductions pero hindi nila nireremit. thats probably why you have -2k for taxes (technically I think its for income taxes withheld but considering you dont have any sss, philhealth, pag-ibig, I doubt the company is withholding income tax payments)
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 04:05:58 am »
sss, philhealth, pag-ibig are required from all employers. kahit carinderia ang negosyo, all employers are required to register their employees sa sss, philhealth, pag-ibig (kahit nga kasambahay need narin kunan). if the employer has not registered then may violation yan sila. baka naman under agency kayo. some agencies kasi sa mga reports nila sa company you have deductions pero hindi nila nireremit. thats probably why you have -2k for taxes (technically I think its for income taxes withheld but considering you dont have any sss, philhealth, pag-ibig, I doubt the company is withholding income tax payments)

Hindi po Kami under agency...direct employment po ako sa OPPO..dahil nung first 7months ko, meron namang benefits..unlike nung nag Aug 2015 eh tinanggal..doubtful din ako kung nireremit ba talaga nila yung tax.
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Re: Should I look for another work? HELP!
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 11:53:21 am »
Hindi po Kami under agency...direct employment po ako sa OPPO..dahil nung first 7months ko, meron namang benefits..unlike nung nag Aug 2015 eh tinanggal..doubtful din ako kung nireremit ba talaga nila yung tax.

you can easily check your contributions ts... find time to inquire in their offices to make sure all deducted contributions are posted...

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2016, 01:38:35 am »
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sss, philhealth, pag-ibig are required from all employers. kahit carinderia ang negosyo, all employers are required to register their employees sa sss, philhealth, pag-ibig (kahit nga kasambahay need narin kunan). if the employer has not registered then may violation yan sila. baka naman under agency kayo. some agencies kasi sa mga reports nila sa company you have deductions pero hindi nila nireremit. thats probably why you have -2k for taxes (technically I think its for income taxes withheld but considering you dont have any sss, philhealth, pag-ibig, I doubt the company is withholding income tax payments) -

depende kung may agreement kayo ng HR kung ikaw na magbabayad kahit kase may labor code kung hindi ka kakaltasin nasa HR na yun nakasulat  sa policy

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Re: Should I look for another work? HELP!
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2016, 01:45:05 am »
iho malaki laki 20k kung tax 18k pa take home mo promoter pa status mo hindi pa branch manager yung 18 k na yan e sahod ng obrero sa sm 2-3 months 6 days pa ang trabaho

mahirap po ang maghanap ng trabaho na malaki ang kita you need to invest sa sarili study master attend seminar at training para makapag-malaki ka ng konti or makapag-demand ka


at kung wala ka sa sinabi ko huwag ka munang mag-resign invest ka muna sa sarili mo


at regarding benefits tinignan mo ba yung pinirmahan mong contract bakit wala kang benefits nasa communication yan sa HR iba kase kapag hr natatakot na


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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2016, 11:41:55 am »
Dont resign unless may ipapalit ka mas ok na work..with tegards sa contributions mo..kung wala di mag voluntary ka ka....hirap mag hanap trabaho ngayon na ganyan ang kinikita....

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016, 03:23:55 am »
I'm on the same boat dude, good for you if your earning <> 20k a month.
I'm also hoping for a brighter future with another company. As per the members here it is logical to find a new one first before quitting. That is one lesson i had to learn the hardest possible way. Believe me it is a struggle, so play your cards right and don't let emotions take over your logic.

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 04:51:20 am »
depende kung may agreement kayo ng HR kung ikaw na magbabayad kahit kase may labor code kung hindi ka kakaltasin nasa HR na yun nakasulat  sa policy

need parin ng company magbayad kasi may employer share yan. kahit pa pumayag ka at may pinirmahan ka with the company, may violation parin ang company. unless self-employed ang status mo, need na ang company ang magbayad and magreport. may violation yan for non reporting (kahit nga pag hindi na connected sa company need ulit ireport kundi violation na naman). especially ngayon na humihigpit na sila, the latest of which gusto na ng mga govt agencies na via online banking ang payments kaso hindi naman lahat ng banko pwede so napipilitan na mag open ng account dun sa accredited bank nila (i.e. landbank, pnb)

one scenario kung pano nangyari na dati meron siya benefits but now wala is pinalabas ng company na hindi ka na regular employee sa kanila kundi more of per job basis lang. parang on call lang na pag may need sila ng tao ikaw yung tinatawag to fill in on a temporary basis (i.e. parang naging contractual ang status). BUT may loophole parin yan na pwede maging in favor sa employee. I forgot the exact numbers but basically if within a certain period (3 years ata) you have worked for the same company a certain number of months (eto yung number na hindi ko matandaan) kahit not consecutive, you are considered a regular employee.

because of that rule, ang ginagawa ng mga companies employing contractuals is they have at least 6 different agencies kung saan palipat lipat ang mga employees (after contract expires next contract is with another agency and so on until balik ulit dun sa first agency)

anyways at 20k per month, mahirapan ka makahanap ng starting salary na ganun kataas kung lumipat ka (unless in sales and we count the commissions you earn). dyan sa manila nasa 481 per day ang minimum that translates to about 10k a month so your current salary is about twice the minimum wage. so thats something to think about. kung kaya mo naman na lower ang sweldo but may benefits then yes its a good idea to find another work. yung benefits kasi ng SSS, Philhealth, Pag-ibig it may seem low at first pero over time kasi malaki rin matutulong niyan. SSS and pag-ibig have multi purpose loans (and even calamity loans)

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2016, 08:59:47 am »
Hay nku...hehehe wag ka muna mag resign.advice ts ha..dati rin ako empleyado kaso na buksan ang isip ko sa nag recruit sa akin sa networking..don ko nalaman sa trainings nila na kung gusto mo kumita enough para mabuhay is look for a permanent job.may sahod pero 15/30 income pero survival lang.sabi doon kung gusto mo kumita ng malaki mag negosyo.simula noon umalis ako sa networking at nag isip ng king ano2 na negosyo.kaya ngayon kumikita ako 50k-100k per month with may chorizo business.nag enroll ako sa pang kabuhayan nkita ko sa enternet worth 3k.attend ako 2 days seminar.tinuruan kami paano gumawa.marami rin bro mga opportunity lalo na pag nasa urban area ka food is the best.kaibigan ku nga ice canda ang binebenta pero ngayon 3k per day income nya sa ice canday. Search sa net bro daming umasenso sa negosyo.change mo yung mindset mo bro wag employment ang isipin mo.kundi gumawa ka ng trabaho para sau.. nabasa ko nga yung linya galing sa harvard skol na di sila naghahanap ng trabaho kung gumagawa cla ng trabaho.
Sana makatulong sau.good luck

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2016, 11:36:04 am »
you heard the majority ts... hope this will help you a lot in making your decision... :)

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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2016, 10:40:20 am »
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need parin ng company magbayad kasi may employer share yan. kahit pa pumayag ka at may pinirmahan ka with the company, may violation parin ang company. unless self-employed ang status mo, need na ang company ang magbayad and magreport. may violation yan for non reporting (kahit nga pag hindi na connected sa company need ulit ireport kundi violation na naman). especially ngayon na humihigpit na sila, the latest of which gusto na ng mga govt agencies na via online banking ang payments kaso hindi naman lahat ng banko pwede so napipilitan na mag open ng account dun sa accredited bank nila (i.e. landbank, pnb)

one scenario kung pano nangyari na dati meron siya benefits but now wala is pinalabas ng company na hindi ka na regular employee sa kanila kundi more of per job basis lang. parang on call lang na pag may need sila ng tao ikaw yung tinatawag to fill in on a temporary basis (i.e. parang naging contractual ang status). BUT may loophole parin yan na pwede maging in favor sa employee. I forgot the exact numbers but basically if within a certain period (3 years ata) you have worked for the same company a certain number of months (eto yung number na hindi ko matandaan) kahit not consecutive, you are considered a regular employee.

because of that rule, ang ginagawa ng mga companies employing contractuals is they have at least 6 different agencies kung saan palipat lipat ang mga employees (after contract expires next contract is with another agency and so on until balik ulit dun sa first agency)

anyways at 20k per month, mahirapan ka makahanap ng starting salary na ganun kataas kung lumipat ka (unless in sales and we count the commissions you earn). dyan sa manila nasa 481 per day ang minimum that translates to about 10k a month so your current salary is about twice the minimum wage. so thats something to think about. kung kaya mo naman na lower ang sweldo but may benefits then yes its a good idea to find another work. yung benefits kasi ng SSS, Philhealth, Pag-ibig it may seem low at first pero over time kasi malaki rin matutulong niyan. SSS and pag-ibig have multi purpose loans (and even calamity loans)

oo nga nasa labor code nga yun 

problem is yung share ng company  baka naisama na sa sahod kaya nga dapat tignan nya kung nakasulat sa company policy or magtanong sya sa HR

pinoys kase e basta makakuha ng trabaho e hindi tinitignan ang job order or contract  nandun lahat nakasulat ang sahod, company rules,benefits, duties and responsibilities at job description and policy lahat yun ibibigay sayo ng HR

problem sa atin   agad conclude na kapag walang philheatlh or SSS abuso na kaaagad

dapat tinatanong e ano ba ang nakalagay sa contract na pinirmahan ng kliyente  k




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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2016, 11:40:36 am »
oo nga nasa labor code nga yun 

problem is yung share ng company  baka naisama na sa sahod kaya nga dapat tignan nya kung nakasulat sa company policy or magtanong sya sa HR

pinoys kase e basta makakuha ng trabaho e hindi tinitignan ang job order or contract  nandun lahat nakasulat ang sahod, company rules,benefits, duties and responsibilities at job description and policy lahat yun ibibigay sayo ng HR

problem sa atin   agad conclude na kapag walang philheatlh or SSS abuso na kaaagad

dapat tinatanong e ano ba ang nakalagay sa contract na pinirmahan ng kliyente  k

agree on this... this is common particularly with contractual employees which some companies have the philhealth, sss and pagibig shares included in the salaries...

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 03:56:30 am »
you heard the majority ts... hope this will help you a lot in making your decision... :)

Ako sir matinik talaga ako sa buhay at madiskarte..the moment na nag sign kami ng contract last year Aug. I find it suspicious..minamadali nila kami na mag sign without reading what is written on it..so i ask my co-worker na to take a photo of the files nalang para may time kami na e read..kaso na delete na nya...tama nga suspetsya ko tgat time..may kababalaghan sa loob nun
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 07:38:33 am »
huwag kang mag eempleyado  pang hampas lupa lang yon, mag aral ka mag business,