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A7x

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Si Lee Kuan Yew ay kamay na bakal ang pina-iral, disiplina, strikto kaya umunlad ang Singapore, Ayaw mo bang umunlad?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUcKBkYRzM[/youtube]
« Last Edit: April 17, 2016, 12:11:34 am by A7x »

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South Korea, walang kamay na bakal umunlad. North Korea, kamay na bakal, kumusta naman?

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Hindi ata kamay na bakal ang sa north korea idol lol

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You are saying democracy helps S. Korea to grow faster, but it was not really true. Under the era of military dictatorship until 1987, S. Korea economic growth was even faster after they were democraticized.

I think democracy actually slow down the economy, but it was fair to say democracy provided more long-term developing factors such as diversity, freedom of speech, and different ideas.

Many old S. Koreans who experienced military dictatorship miss old days when economic growth was 9% in annual and they would not have to worry about employment opportunities as long as they finished college, which in today's Korea, it is virtually impossible to find a job (high quality job such as high salaries).

Couple of my Korean friends told me that the iron and  steel industry ( in particular the company POSCO) contributed greatly to the development of Korea since the 1960s. Which Digong Duterte is pushing as well in one of his interview..

Iron and steel helped Korea’s industrial takeoff..

Let me give you some thoughts since you mention S.Korea and let's compare it with the Philippines..

  • The US stationing troops there from the 1950s until today has prevented warfare with North Korea and the nations's annexation by China. (We kicked the US out)
  • Koreans reformed their political system in the 1990s. The country from essentially a police to a functioning democracy in less than ten years.(We transition to a corrupt democracy)
  • Miminal internal conflicts - Korea has internal conflicts but none so major that they would have prevented the nation from advancing economically.(We have internal problems due to ethnic differences and communism)
  • Peaceful foreign relations (North Korea excluded) - South Korea has enjoyed peaceful relations for the majority of its life and with that peace has come prosperity.
  • Unfettered access to energy - There has not been an energy crisis in South Korea of any significance. This undisturbed access has translated into economic success.(We have energy problems all over the country and the government is inutile about it)
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Actually, what I was saying e walang kinalaman ang kamay na bakal sa pag-unlad.

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Actually, what I was saying e walang kinalaman ang kamay na bakal sa pag-unlad.

With the current status of our country, it is necessary.. Talamak ang droga, criminalidad, corruption etc.. DISIPLINA at matapang na LIDERATO sa pag iimplement ng BATAS ang kailangan..

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South Korea, walang kamay na bakal umunlad. North Korea, kamay na bakal, kumusta naman?

This can be considered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung-hee#Economic_policy


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Also, it's not helpful to talk about economic development through such a rule as the latter does not take place through choice.

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aminin man natin o hindi, ayaw ng mga pinoy sa "istriktong" takbo ng buhay.
pag estudyante tayo ayaw natin sumunod sa school rules.
pag nagta-trabaho na tayo, humahanap tayo ng paraan para ma-bend ang rules pinagta-trabahuhan natin.
di na ako magugulat na, kung (as in KUNG) sakaling ang maupong presidente ay istrikto, meron at meron aangal na kesyo "ay sobrang higpit naman ganito ganyan".
an iron hand is useful as long as the citizens realize that discipline is a major factor in an iron hand.
singaporeans / koreans embraced the strict iron hand. has the discipline to prove for it.
Why stand on a silent platform? Fight the War, F*ck the Norm!

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LKY is a dictator same as FEM, the difference he didn't enrich himself  smoking::
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i think he's the leader who once said " this country does'nt need democracy, but dicipline"....

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as the saying goes..."there is no absolute freedom..." we should always remember that...

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South Korea, walang kamay na bakal umunlad. North Korea, kamay na bakal, kumusta naman?

they have nuclear power plants , that can attract manufacturers and companies means more jobs for the people

which we didn't like during the Marcos era

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they have nuclear power plants , that can attract manufacturers and companies means more jobs for the people

which we didn't like during the Marcos era

and now people realized the benefits the country missed by not using it... and the sad part of it, we are still paying the debt incurred by this mothballed plant...

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Iron Fist, for as long as it does not violate the due process, is very well accepted. Duterte, however .............

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and now people realized the benefits the country missed by not using it... and the sad part of it, we are still paying the debt incurred by this mothballed plant...

yeah thanks to the Aquino for not supporting the said project and giving the meralco to the Lopez

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The problem with calls for a dictatorship is that one has no control over what a dictator does.

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Si Lee Kuan Yew ay kamay na bakal ang pina-iral, disiplina, strikto kaya umunlad ang Singapore, Ayaw mo bang umunlad?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUcKBkYRzM[/youtube]

You forgot to mention that he has no close ties with terrorists and didn't push for federalism.

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You forgot to mention that he has no close ties with terrorists and didn't push for federalism.


If you can provide a solution for a lasting peace in Mindanao other than FEDERALISM then I will say you are better than DU30..

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How about you provide proof that fedralism will actually work in the country?

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Knowing most of our provinces controlled by dynasties, mas bibigyan lang nito ng sobra sobrang power mga pulitiko at pamilya na yan.

Kung lahat ng probinsya natin gaya ng cebu at ilo ilo. Na di masyado umaasa sa ira galing national govt baka pwede pa.

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aminin man natin o hindi, ayaw ng mga pinoy sa "istriktong" takbo ng buhay.
pag estudyante tayo ayaw natin sumunod sa school rules.
pag nagta-trabaho na tayo, humahanap tayo ng paraan para ma-bend ang rules pinagta-trabahuhan natin.
di na ako magugulat na, kung (as in KUNG) sakaling ang maupong presidente ay istrikto, meron at meron aangal na kesyo "ay sobrang higpit naman ganito ganyan".
an iron hand is useful as long as the citizens realize that discipline is a major factor in an iron hand.
singaporeans / koreans embraced the strict iron hand. has the discipline to prove for it.

We need to sacrifice our stubborness for discipline in order to change our country for good.

Though, I doubt that the manner of Lee Kuan Yew's run Singapore is applicable in our country at present time. Mainly, because during that time, Singapore was recovering from the war and left by the British to fend for themselves, so clearly there's are less oppositions during his implimentation of the laws in Singapore. Compared in our present situation, political clans and parties, businessmen, and influencial elites can strongly oppose the president (remember Erap) which can cause his/her position, problem or division among the people.
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but are we ready to sacrifice to implement the changes... i doubt it... though during the time of marcos, it was practiced but on a semi-parliamentary system only...

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Lee Kuan Yew had discipline and had VISION... but sad to say DU30 has only discipline but no economic nor international VISION... yun ang pinagkaiba nila

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Lee Kuan Yew had discipline and had VISION... but sad to say DU30 has only discipline but no economic nor international VISION... yun ang pinagkaiba nila

i totally agree. the fact na hindi siya prepared s pagtakbo bilang presidente at may exit plan na kagad khit hindi pa nananalo.