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Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« on: March 27, 2016, 07:57:44 pm »
Echoing Senator Antonio Trillanes’ observation, Duterte never had an exhibit to prove that his 3-6 months promise of curbing crime and illegal drugs had worked sometime in Duterte’s more than twenty decades of ruling Davao City. Duterte has plenty of years to show the public that he actually did the “3-6 months and was successful”, but there was none. Davao today is still infested with crime and drug problems.

Forget about Numbeo’s “Davao as safest city in the world”. It turned out to be a farce, contributed by merely 470 individuals who could possibly Duterte’s fanatic supporters to prep his bid for presidency. Clearly, with Numbeo’s style of gathering data any place can be the safest (or with the prettiest ladies or whatever) for as long as you have the cult following. Read Numbeo’s Terms of Use page to see what that means.

One credible individual who had experience in working against the country’s crime and drug problem already gave his honest opinion. Senator Ping Lacson, who served as director general of the Philippine National Police for two years, said that it is impossible.

Lacson explained that massive police visibility is needed for criminals to think twice before committing their crime, but the 150,000 policemen across the country are not sufficient to man for 100 million citizens. Lacson also cited that a policeman cannot just kill criminals on the spot especially if the perpetrators surrendered. And when the due process starts, getting a conviction within a year is considered as almost a miracle.

These statements are real, logical, and reasonable from real persons.

Illegal drugs is a crime of addiction. Once a person is hooked, 3-6 months are not enough to shun drugs. There will be deep craving as though one is possessed by evil spirits, the person is not in control of himself. There will be demand. There will be suppliers. That “3-6 months” as impossibility is beyond reasonable doubt. Just look at Duterte’s Davao City.

If Duterte cannot stop his foul-cursing mouth in 3-6 months, if Duterte cannot stop his libido from kissing random women in public in 3-6 months, why will he expect illegal drug dependents to stop their addiction in 3-6 months?

You don’t need to be a rocket political analyst to figure that Duterte’s promise of curbing crime and drug problem for the whole Philippine archipelago within 3-6 months is not doable. Logic and common sense will tell you that it is impossible especially in a country where due process of law is being upheld.

Is Duterte’s promise doable? Answer: No.

Was the 3-6 months ever done in Davao? Never. Duterte’s fight against crime and illegal drugs in Davao City is relatively good, but not within his 3-6 months self-restriction. Even after his reign of more than two decades drug is still a big problem in Davao City.

http://getreal.rocks/comparing-promises-roxas-vs-duterte/

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 09:19:48 pm »
Baka sabihin mo inaatake ka naman, pero gusto ko lang point out na may thread ka na about the same topic bakit gumawa ka na naman ng bago. Same topic parin naman kahit iba na pinopoint out mong kasinungalingan ni duterte atsaka maikli pa naman yung dating thread, 2 pages palang. Spamming na itong ginagawa mo.

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 10:29:27 pm »
3-6 hindi kaya ni Duterte linisin?

Ito lang masasabi ko sa kanila... "Sila ay Sila, Duterte is Duterte" sana ma gets niyo yon  wahhahhhha :D


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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 10:41:59 pm »
siempre ikaw ba naman ex pnp chief.. aamin ka bang hindi mo nagawa yon pero kayang gawin ng iba?...

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 11:52:41 pm »
siempre ikaw ba naman ex pnp chief.. aamin ka bang hindi mo nagawa yon pero kayang gawin ng iba?...

eh hindi rin naman nagawa ni  duterte sa davao

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 06:21:08 am »
3-6 hindi kaya ni Duterte linisin?

Ito lang masasabi ko sa kanila... "Sila ay Sila, Duterte is Duterte" sana ma gets niyo yon  wahhahhhha :D

3-6 months is simply impractical. Budgetwise, logistics, planning etc. Kahit 10 duterte pa ilagay mo dyan walang makakagawa nyan.

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 06:23:18 am »
God bless you, Grace Poe, Binay and Mar Roxas...  ::flowers ::flowers ::flowers after election... RIP thats for sure.
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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 02:35:01 pm »
Deploy the armed forces too. 3-6 months maachieve yan

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 06:35:52 pm »
Eto ba yung kumakain ng tae?

Utoy taga davao ka ba? At alam mo mga sinasabi mo?

Tumira ka un bago mo masabi mga yan..

Masabi ko na every month umuuwi ako dun ng 5 days.. Sobrang naeenjoy ko ang tax ko dun..

Lalo pag sakay ng taxi

Paglakad sa gabi

Pagiging magalang ng mga alagad ng batas!

Para kang ai mar.. Wala kang alam..
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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 08:13:45 pm »
Eto ba yung kumakain ng tae?

Utoy taga davao ka ba? At alam mo mga sinasabi mo?

Tumira ka un bago mo masabi mga yan..

Masabi ko na every month umuuwi ako dun ng 5 days.. Sobrang naeenjoy ko ang tax ko dun..

Lalo pag sakay ng taxi


nanay mo yung kumakain ng tae

Paglakad sa gabi

Pagiging magalang ng mga alagad ng batas!

Para kang ai mar.. Wala kang alam..

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 08:14:13 pm »


nanay mo yung kumakain ng tae hahaha

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 11:47:53 pm »
We all have to admit that he talks out of his ass, saying what he thinks right at any moment, but at the right time, he calls the right shots without politicking, etc.

I call BS on him going home everyday, or 0 crime in 3-6 mos. But he will surely get a lot of things done nonetheless.

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 12:59:05 am »
TS ang pagsasabi ng mali ng kapwa ay di nangangahulugan na ikaw ang tama... don't try to encourage others to dislike Digong... wag naman sana maging utak talanka... 

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2016, 01:19:18 am »
duterte gives us hope...Hope na pag nasa pinas ka, di ka nag aalala na pag nasa bahay ka kailangan all your doors and gates are secured sa akyat bahay.. Hope na pag labas mo, wala kang kaba na ilabas ang cp mo para sagutin ang tawag o icheck ang sms mo.. hope na pag sakay mo sa public transport safe ang belongings mo.. na pag uwi mo wala kang saksak o sugat... hope na yung problema sa juvenile delinquency ay magkakaroon ng permanenteng solusyon. di yung huhulihin, ikukulong tapos balik uli sa dati na maeexploit sila at maging biktima ng kahirapan at kawalang pag asa. at hope na may magandang pagbabago sa justice system natin.

Regardless na he can do it within 3-6 months... if he can at least reduce the crime rate to 50% in that period is an acceptable achievement for me. I expect marami talaga siya makakalaban hindi lang mga lawless entities pati na mga lawmakers and law implementors.... As I said, He gives the Filipino people hope that the people living in our country will be a much more disciplined and law abiding citizens. kaya importante yung reference nya sa Davao for us to have a comparison and model.

take note na hindi ko sinabing mga filipino kundi people living in our country... kasi ang pinoy kung pinapatupad ang batas karamihan sa hindi susunod sa batas. Dahil nandyan na ang batas...sobrang dami nga eh... ang kulang na lng sundin at ipatupad ito.

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 06:00:08 am »
I believe that Duterte is the leader we need, the President that we need. The Philippines need Duterte now, if you don't agree with me so be it... I respect your opinion, as long as you respect mine.
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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2016, 10:12:48 am »
i would just like to be realistic... before solving the crime and drug problem... solve the problem with the military and police organization... while i think he may be a big difference, i would hope that a realistic target setting be done first... i say a 30% drop in the 1st 6 months would be a big accomplishment already... then so on and forth...

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2016, 08:05:55 pm »
Kung di nya kaya sugpuin ang drugs at criminality within 3-6 months, does that make him a liar? does that make him a bad person or a bad presidential candidate? Kahit di nya kaya pero sa aking opinion, uulitin ko, sa aking opinion, siya lang ang mas malaking magagawa. Hindi ako heavy fan ni Duterte pero sa palagay ko siya lang ang may kakayahan na gawin ito among the presidential candidates.

Sa ibang presidential candidates, ang daming anomalya, daming issues, daming factors na makakapag dalawang isip ka kung bagay ba sila maging presidente, pero kay Duterte, sige nga magbigay ka ng kahit isang lehitimong rason bakit hindi siya karapatdapat maging presidente.

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2016, 10:28:22 pm »
extra judicial killings.. i know that  you've heard a thousand times.. pero di malayong ma abuse ng mga authorities ung kanilang authority. ano un mabalitaang may ginawa ka lang ng masama, patay ka na? basta tataniman ka lang..wala ng due process lagot ka na.

especially pag kalaban mo ung mga dikit or dumidikit kay duterte or should i say future cronies. mahirap na kahit maging mabuting pangulo si duterte pag na manipulate sya..baka maulit uli ang history.

look at marcos.. the first term of marcos really did well for the philippines. pero na manipulate lang sya ni imelda kaya ang end result EDSA People Power. History speaks for itself.

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2016, 12:44:37 am »
pero kay Duterte, sige nga magbigay ka ng kahit isang lehitimong rason bakit hindi siya karapatdapat maging presidente.

1. He is pro terrorists. He cuddles MILF/MNLF/NPA who are notorious for kidnapping, robbery, extortion, and murder amongst other things. Tama si Mar Roxas nung nakaraang debate, ang kaya lang nyang patayin e yung maliliit na kriminal. Pero yung mga bigfish that matters wala. Sabagay kung yung mga terorista nga ok lang sa kanya kasi "may pinaglalaban" daw, e yun pa kayang mga sindikato.

Madami pang reason why we should not tolerate Dutertard, pero sabi mo kasi isa lang e  ::laffman

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2016, 02:00:29 am »
3-6 months? Pwede pero maaasure niyo ba na appropriate ang punishment na matatangap nila para sa severity ng crime na nagawa nila?
Ano yun lahat papatayin mo nalang? E bat di pa ibasura ang justice system? At wag niyo akong pinapasaringan ng guilty na nga bat pa itratrial? Puta yung parusa pinagaaralan hindi lang kung guilty o hindi

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2016, 10:22:20 am »
3-6 months? Pwede pero maaasure niyo ba na appropriate ang punishment na matatangap nila para sa severity ng crime na nagawa nila?
Ano yun lahat papatayin mo nalang? E bat di pa ibasura ang justice system? At wag niyo akong pinapasaringan ng guilty na nga bat pa itratrial? Puta yung parusa pinagaaralan hindi lang kung guilty o hindi

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hehehe... that is the problem... everything wants change instantly.... i also want peace and change... but i want it to be realistic and feasible...

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2016, 11:21:20 am »
hehehe... that is the problem... everything wants change instantly.... i also want peace and change... but i want it to be realistic and feasible...

Eh pag ayaw mo daw sakanya panig ka sa mga kriminal or kriminal kadin. Edi wow. haha
Hindi ako takot na hindi mangyayari yung pangako niya. TAKOT AKO IF IPINILIT NIYA sakali man na manalo siya.

For instance eto, si lawrencium nagipit, may sakit anak, nagbenta ng drugs once. 3grams lang. shabu, sakto nahuli siya. Titirahin na ba agad? Dapat na ba siyang lagyan ng butas sa noo? Parehas na sila ng punishment sa 3 dekadang drug dealer?

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Re: Kasinungalingan ni DUterte at ng mga dutertards
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2016, 12:45:26 pm »
taas ng ihi ng mga hindi duterte dito...

realistic man o hindi... at least yun ang pinakauna at pinakaimportante niyang gagawin pag upo... at yun din ang gusto kong priority ng presidente...

lumang tugtugin na sa akin mga pangakong trabaho, pag unlad ng bansa, sagot sa gutom, sagot sa kahirapan, at kung ano ano  pa...

ang dami dito mga barbero... wala pang election, wala pang nanalo, walang pang nakaupo, pero si duterte ang dami na raw pinatay dahil sa extra judicial killings hahahaha... ang gagaling gumawa ng kwento parang nangyari na

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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2016, 12:50:30 pm »
realistic realistic kayo dyan pero mga arguments niyo wala pang nangyayari.... nasa isip niyo lang hahaha

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2016, 01:54:27 pm »


 pero si duterte ang dami na raw pinatay dahil sa extra judicial killings hahahaha... ang gagaling gumawa ng kwento parang nangyari na

Sya mismo nagsabi nyan. So ibig mong sabihin sinungaling yung idol mo?