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Last week the Pilipino UNDOF troops to the UN staged the so called "Great Escape" at Golan Heights. Pilipino UNDOF troops stationed in Post 68, a UN facility at Golan Heights managed to escape into safety in Israel last Sunday. During the stand-off last week between Philippine Peacekeepers and Al-Nusra Front (a rebel force in Syria and linked to Al Qaeda), Lt. Gen. Iqbal Singh Singha, UNDOF Commander (allegedly) ordered our boys to "surrender" their weapons to their besiegers and to be freed later together with their fellow 45 Fijian Peacekeepers. We all know what happened... ALL HELL BREAK LOSSE!!

7 hours of gunfire exchange which resulted to 3 rebels dead. Running low on ammo and with no signs of reinforcement. Our boys escaped Post 68 during the ceasefire at the middle of the night while their besiegers are asleep. UN made a statement that Lt. Gen. Singh Singha denies the order to surrender but simply ordered to "lay down their arms" and "don't shoot" during the confrontation. Lt. Gen Singh Singha also called our boys "unprofessional" by defying his orders and "act of cowardice" by running away from their post. This contradicts to the information that relayed by our Philippine Peacekeepers to the AFP.

While our boys enjoy the fruits of their "Great Escape". UN and Fiji are face with 45 Fijian UNDOF troops that are captives by Al-Nusra Front and to be trial under Islamic Shari'a Law. It was reported that 45 Fijian UNDOF troops surrendered to the Al-Nusral Front. Now the Fiji’s Army Chief Brigadier General Mosese Tikoitoga revealed that the detained 45 Fijian peacekeepers, in fact,  indeed surrendered to the Al-Nusra Front following the orders of UNDOF Commander Lt. Gen. Iqbal Singha.

So who's to be blamed here?Who's making up stories and twisting the truth in order to prove that he/they're honorable?

Kayo na sumagot. Baka kasi ipasok pa ako sa Grammar Gestapo ng mga Grammar Nazi. Dumudugo na kasi ilong at na mild stroke na utak ko sa sinulat ko.


for further info: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Al-Nusra-threatening-to-put-captive-Fiji-UN-troops-on-trial-under-Islamic-law-374544

And Kudos the the Irish force who rescued our boys at Post 69 and Syrian Army who provided defensive artillery fire for our boys at Post 68 during the siege.

P.S. Sorry for my previous post "Philippines' "Great Escape" and Fiji's... ?"
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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 12:15:37 pm »
i;m pretty sure those fijian was also promised that if they surrender and lay down their arms they will be freed and unharmed.

but wheres the fijian right now?

so fuck u gen singh

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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 02:28:29 pm »
With all due respect to Gen. Iqbal Singh Singha, trusting the Al-Nusra Front is akin to trusting that a king cobra will not bite you after you aggravate it beyond the limits of its endurance.

Meanwhile, here's another perspective of the situation.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/09/05/14/ex-un-envoy-ph-peacekeepers-stop-talking-stand-decision
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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 03:13:03 pm »
With all due respect to Gen. Iqbal Singh Singha, trusting the Al-Nusra Front is akin to trusting that a king cobra will not bite you after you aggravate it beyond the limits of its endurance.

Meanwhile, here's another perspective of the situation.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/09/05/14/ex-un-envoy-ph-peacekeepers-stop-talking-stand-decision


First why order to surrender and give them your weapons? Gen. Singh Singha could have just instructed the pinoys to retreat back to HQ because they're negotiating to the rebels for the release of the Fijians.By giving them your weapons means Al-Nusra will have more toys to play with. Second, Pilipinos fired back because there gate was rammed by the Al-Nusra and attack them directly. The Pilipinos are just on self-defense. Third, 7 hours of gunfire? Really and NO reinforcement? What an idiotic commander would think that the rebels are still doing negotiations while your men are being target practice by the same rebels.

Knowing that his from India. Of all people he should know that surrendering to this Islamic rebels is just one step away from having a radical haircut. I don't think that Fijians will surrender their arms if there was no order to surrender from their commander.

Kung gusto nya siya na lang yung pamalit sa Fijians kasi gusto nyang surrender yung sundalo nya, eh una muna sya.
Parang Sikh ata tong si Gen. Singh Singha kasi sa style ng turban nya... Paano ba to naging General to? Kahit hindi sundalo alam na "surrender is consider last resort".
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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 04:09:32 pm »

First why order to surrender and give them your weapons? Gen. Singh Singha could have just instructed the pinoys to retreat back to HQ because they're negotiating to the rebels for the release of the Fijians.By giving them your weapons means Al-Nusra will have more toys to play with. Second, Pilipinos fired back because there gate was rammed by the Al-Nusra and attack them directly. The Pilipinos are just on self-defense. Third, 7 hours of gunfire? Really and NO reinforcement? What an idiotic commander would think that the rebels are still doing negotiations while your men are being target practice by the same rebels.

Knowing that his from India. Of all people he should know that surrendering to this Islamic rebels is just one step away from having a radical haircut. I don't think that Fijians will surrender their arms if there was no order to surrender from their commander.

Kung gusto nya siya na lang yung pamalit sa Fijians kasi gusto nyang surrender yung sundalo nya, eh una muna sya.
Parang Sikh ata tong si Gen. Singh Singha kasi sa style ng turban nya... Paano ba to naging General to? Kahit hindi sundalo alam na "surrender is consider last resort".

Gen. Singha is a by-the-book kind of soldier, a hidebound higher-up who follows orders to the last letter, dash, and dot and expects the same kind of obedience from his troops. I understand that he was only trying to save the lives of the Fijian peacekeepers but surely someone in their intelligence division should have warned him that the Al-Nursa Front had no intention whatsoever of honoring any ceasefire or negotiations.
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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 06:38:30 pm »
I would not advice on renewing our terms of agreement for troops to be deployed under such conditions.  Ika nga nung ininterview about this issue, eh PeaceKeepers ang referee tapos 2 inaawat na grupo tapos yung ISA pang grupo eh gusto saktan yung referee.

UN troops were very lucky indeed since the circumstances are stacked against them and yet they survived the ordeal.
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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 08:04:57 pm »
shoot back - unprofessional
run - coward

so what's the right thing to do?

surrender? why?

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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 01:15:07 am »
The Indian general denies giving the order to surrender. Yet, the Fijian army chief himself said that the Fijian contingent surrendered under Gen. Singha's order...

Surrender, give your arms to the rebels and volunteer to be their hostage.. Apparently this is what Gen. Singha believes to be the "courageous" and "professional" acts of a soldier..

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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 01:17:39 am »
What's next for general singa?

Probably he'd blame the filipinos for not surrendering kaya nagkanun yung mga fijians

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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 05:37:49 am »
Tarantado yang 5-6 na yan, Binabaligtad niya ngayon ang mga sundalong pinoy ang sabi niya sa isang article iniwan nalang daw ng Pinoy peace keepers ang post nila WTF!!! I Smell something fishy dito sa Heneral na ito, Pinagmamalaki na trained siya about strategy and defense etc. mukhang absent siya sa mga sessions ang nalaman lang niyang options ay yung i surrender ang armas at sumunod sa mga utos nung mga hinayupak na muslim. Malamang ganun din instruction niya sa mga Fijians asan ngayon sila.. tsk! tsk!

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Re: Philippines "Great Escape" and Fiji's... Face The Islamic Shari'a Law
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 10:05:30 am »
something fishy or no balls?
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