Topic: An Open Letter to Vic Sotto by SPOT.ph blogger Lourd de Veyra

[abdul jahkool]

I do not know mr. De veyra thus I am really confused about the motive of his open letter, he may be a douche for all i know, but the point of argument is not about mr. de veyra or bossing vic sotto. It is about the quality of bossing's movies. Yes, bossing is already a legend in his own way. I am also a fan of his masa appeal. But let us forget who authored the open letter for a moment and think of it this way. Metro Manila Film Festival should have been the battle of the best of the best movies showcasing good quality plot, special effects, actors, actress, directors, etc. Yes kasama na rin ang pera na malilikom sa usapan pero it is still a film festival.

Siguro mali si de veyra na puntiryahin si bossing specifically. Pero with their resources, they can make a movie worth watching. It does'nt mean na porket pambata ok ng walang kwentang kwento. Madaming pambatang pelikula na mas malalim pa sa pang matandang pelikula. Sayang yung pagkakataon na imold natin ang ating kabataan para maging mabuting mamamayan, sila ang nasa posisyon na gawin yun dahil sa impluwensya ng pelikula.

[Idiot]

what do you mean na sobrang yaman nila

the only person i know na mayaman talaga e si Kris Aquino lang hindi si ryza or vic sotto

nalulula tayo sa gross nila na almost 800 Million na ata kapag sinabi kasing gross di pa nakaless ang mga gastos nila kapag na less ang nagastos nila e yung palang ang net o talagang kita yung talagang kita e taxable yun

1. amusement tax 50 percent ata
2. yung VAT na 12 percent
3. income tax pa ng mga talents

so sinong matinong pilipino na gagawa ng pelikula kung in the end e kulang pa ata yung kita sa pangbayad ng tax

[abdul jahkool]

what do you mean na sobrang yaman nila

the only person i know na mayaman talaga e si Kris Aquino lang hindi si ryza or vic sotto

nalulula tayo sa gross nila na almost 800 Million na ata kapag sinabi kasing gross di pa nakaless ang mga gastos nila kapag na less ang nagastos nila e yung palang ang net o talagang kita yung talagang kita e taxable yun

1. amusement tax 50 percent ata
2. yung VAT na 12 percent
3. income tax pa ng mga talents

so sinong matinong pilipino na gagawa ng pelikula kung in the end e kulang pa ata yung kita sa pangbayad ng tax

Sir ako ba tinutukoy nyo na nagsabi ng "mayayaman"? confirm ko lang baka mamiss interpret ko. wala kasi ako sinabi na mayayaman 

[gardov]

Siguro mali si de veyra na puntiryahin si bossing specifically. Pero with their resources, they can make a movie worth watching. It does'nt mean na porket pambata ok ng walang kwentang kwento. Madaming pambatang pelikula na mas malalim pa sa pang matandang pelikula. Sayang yung pagkakataon na imold natin ang ating kabataan para maging mabuting mamamayan, sila ang nasa posisyon na gawin yun dahil sa impluwensya ng pelikula.

hindi naman puro kasamaan ang mga pelikula ni Vic ah. lagi ngang good triumphs over evil ang tema ng mga films nya. light hearted humour.

also, kung sa pelikula kukuha ng magandang pang impluwensya ang isang magulang para sa kanyang anak, isa na syang failure bilang isang magulang.

[Ilonggo-by-blood]

what do you mean na sobrang yaman nila

the only person i know na mayaman talaga e si Kris Aquino lang hindi si ryza or vic sotto

nalulula tayo sa gross nila na almost 800 Million na ata kapag sinabi kasing gross di pa nakaless ang mga gastos nila kapag na less ang nagastos nila e yung palang ang net o talagang kita yung talagang kita e taxable yun

1. amusement tax 50 percent ata
2. yung VAT na 12 percent
3. income tax pa ng mga talents

so sinong matinong pilipino na gagawa ng pelikula kung in the end e kulang pa ata yung kita sa pangbayad ng tax

so mahirap sila ganun? mayaman sila mas mayaman sa almost 100% sa atin dito sa espiya, 

my point is the open letter is just an opinion and l have noticed na subra na nga yung advertisement sa Movie industry. Nawawala na yung spirit of entertainment.

[TigerClaw]

hindi naman puro kasamaan ang mga pelikula ni Vic ah. lagi ngang good triumphs over evil ang tema ng mga films nya. light hearted humour.

also, kung sa pelikula kukuha ng magandang pang impluwensya ang isang magulang para sa kanyang anak, isa na syang failure bilang isang magulang.

Agree ako sa sinabi mo...

[akosimetalmouth]

Pang torrent lang sa akin yung mga tagalog movies.. The good tagalog ones are the documentary and indi types which are not really shown on theatres. I hate it when MMFF comes, inuubos nila ung sinehan ang ganda naman sana ng panahon para makapag bonding with films that are really worth it.

[IWM]

some of you guys are missing the point. metro manila FILM FESTIVAL, we should expect top of the line, best of the best quality movies. wag nyong tingnan ang marketing strategy kundi magiging metro manila marketing festival na lang. sure, if it's an everyday film it would be an OK film. pero hindi pwedeng "pwede na yan" kung ito ay isang film festival, yan ang point ni lourd. basa basa ulit pag may time.

[juan pablo]

He makes it seem like product placement is something new in the movie industry and he takes major offense in it. Those products paid in part to be in that movie therefore funding the movie which gives them the right to advertise their products, just like Lourd having the right to criticize the film since he paid to see it. Man of Steel comes to mind with blatant product placement throughout the movie, but it was still enjoyable for me.

He argues that Vic Sotto has not been in a "canon ng pinoy cinema", but wasn't comedy/romance, together with action movies, the "canon of pinoy cinema" before (the height of TVJ and FPJ fame)? If he wants Vic Sotto in a more meaningful role I think there are other ways, better ways, to say it rather than call him out for making a movie like My Little Bossings.

As for the Film Fest I would hold those who approve the entries more liable for the quality of movies that passes the MMFF standard than those who make the movies themselves.

[Schandelah]

some of you guys are missing the point. metro manila FILM FESTIVAL, we should expect top of the line, best of the best quality movies. wag nyong tingnan ang marketing strategy kundi magiging metro manila marketing festival na lang. sure, if it's an everyday film it would be an OK film. pero hindi pwedeng "pwede na yan" kung ito ay isang film festival, yan ang point ni lourd. basa basa ulit pag may time.

Haist...may nakaintindi din sa wakas... susme.

[maniac2999]

annnnd.. here's a defender:

http://catmones.blogspot.com/2014/01/my-two-cents-on-lourd-de-veyras-open.html

[BlueAlphaZero]

some of you guys are missing the point. metro manila FILM FESTIVAL, we should expect top of the line, best of the best quality movies. wag nyong tingnan ang marketing strategy kundi magiging metro manila marketing festival na lang. sure, if it's an everyday film it would be an OK film. pero hindi pwedeng "pwede na yan" kung ito ay isang film festival, yan ang point ni lourd. basa basa ulit pag may time.

Haist...may nakaintindi din sa wakas... susme.

If that's the case, then M. de Veyra seems to have unfairly singled out Vic Sotto. He should've also taken E.R. Ejercito to task for playing yet another hoodlum in his Metro Manila Film Festival entry for this year.

[kuyawuten]

yung movie industry(mainstream)  parang yung gobyerno natin kinukarot lang yung mga karamihan bolahin mo sa advertisement mag papa bola na yan bibilihin na ang boto/movie mo . tsk tsk

[tigerwing]

Talaga namang basura yung pelikula, in fact, majority ng mainstream films sa Pilipinas ay basura. Ang pinag tataka ko lang ay kung bakit naging qualified sumali sa isang Film Fest ang ganyan? at kung bakit pumapatok at bentang benta pa ang mga pelikulang ganyan ang kalidad? Ganun na ba kababa ang standard ng mga Filipino ngayon?

May naisip akong theory:

"the quality of mainstream movies/T.V Shows reflects the quality of the people watching it"

Gagawin ng mga producers kung ano ang mabenta at kung saan sila mas kikita.. Kung ganyan ang mabenta sa mga Filipino, ibig sabihin ganyan din ang "kalidad"  ng nakararami.

[maniac2999]

Talaga namang basura yung pelikula, in fact, majority ng mainstream films sa Pilipinas ay basura. Ang pinag tataka ko lang ay kung bakit naging qualified sumali sa isang Film Fest ang ganyan? at kung bakit pumapatok at bentang benta pa ang mga pelikulang ganyan ang kalidad? Ganun na ba kababa ang standard ng mga Filipino ngayon?

May naisip akong theory:

"the quality of mainstream movies/T.V Shows reflects the quality of the people watching it"

Gagawin ng mga producers kung ano ang mabenta at kung saan sila mas kikita.. Kung ganyan ang mabenta sa mga Filipino, ibig sabihin ganyan din ang "kalidad"  ng nakararami.

lol matagal nang proven yang correlation na yan, kaya nga andaming "masa" sa pinas eh. idagdag mo na rin yung mainstream TV, napakinggan ko minsan may nagsabi "Keep the people ignorant and your cashflow will continue" , kaya nga nakakamangmang yung mga palabas sa TV eh, umagang umaga, yung sineskwela, mathtinik,etc. pinalitan ng TALKSHOW at yung cartoon sa hapon pinalitan ng Telenovela; mas madaming masa, mas madaming kita.

[Schandelah]

Talaga namang basura yung pelikula, in fact, majority ng mainstream films sa Pilipinas ay basura. Ang pinag tataka ko lang ay kung bakit naging qualified sumali sa isang Film Fest ang ganyan? at kung bakit pumapatok at bentang benta pa ang mga pelikulang ganyan ang kalidad? Ganun na ba kababa ang standard ng mga Filipino ngayon?

May naisip akong theory:

"the quality of mainstream movies/T.V Shows reflects the quality of the people watching it"

Gagawin ng mga producers kung ano ang mabenta at kung saan sila mas kikita.. Kung ganyan ang mabenta sa mga Filipino, ibig sabihin ganyan din ang "kalidad"  ng nakararami.

Nope. Ang pelikula ay mas madalas na repleksyon ng mga pangyayari sa totoong buhay.

[d_sinner78]

E ano nauna, itlog or manok? Hehe...

I'll give Lourd some cred for being a Carlos Palanca awardee multiple times. Pero I'm with bossing Vic here kasi he's already paid his dues. Nung mga panahong sobrang bagsak ang movie industry gumagastos pa rin sya para pagandahin yung effects ng mga OKKFK movies nya na kahit nagt-top gross dati e mostly pambayad lang sa ginastos nya. So kung target nya this year e max profit, I'd give him some leeway.

[juan pablo]

As @BlueAlphaZero said why single out Vic Sotto? Why does the responsibility of making a higher standard movie fall on Vic's shoulders only? What is the "canon of pinoy cinema"? If you are upset at his entry My Little Bossings getting into the MMFF then why not blame those who decide which films are entered?

I respect Lourd as an artist so I wonder what would he feel when someone says something like this to him, "I respect your previous albums but you should do something different for your next album so I might enjoy it better."

[Type_One]

Just sharing....Someone's "intelligent" response to sir Lourd. But apparently, it didn't work
http://www.diversityhuman.com/index.php?post%2F2014%2F01%2F06%2Frational-response-to-lourd-de-veyra-close-minded-open-letter-my-little-bossing

[BlueAlphaZero]

As @BlueAlphaZero said why single out Vic Sotto? Why does the responsibility of making a higher standard movie fall on Vic's shoulders only? What is the "canon of pinoy cinema"? If you are upset at his entry My Little Bossings getting into the MMFF then why not blame those who decide which films are entered?

I respect Lourd as an artist so I wonder what would he feel when someone says something like this to him, "I respect your previous albums but you should do something different for your next album so I might enjoy it better."

I'm thinking more along the lines of what his reaction would be if someone told him: "When are you going to stop trying to be a pseudo-intellectual novelty band and make something more serious?"

[abdul jahkool]

http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/how-%E2%80%98calungsod%E2%80%99-tries-to-recover-mmff-losses-095530653.html

Let me just quote one FB user's comment; “The other movies are like candies, they look so yummy. But if you eat it, masisira ngipin mo. Yours is like a vegetable, it's not as palatable but it will make you healthy.”

 

[DesperadO]

sagot ni bossing vic...

Ayon kay Vic, hindi niya nabasa ang blog ni Lourd, ngunit nalaman niyang na-offend ang girlfriend niyang si Pauleen Luna nang nabasa ito.

Sabi ng comedian-host sa PEP.ph (Philippine Entertainment Portal), “Sana nga lang nabasa ko kung ano man yung open letter.

"Mas maganda siguro kung diniretso na niya sa akin."

Sabi pa ni Vic, nasasanay na siya sa mga puna sa mga pelikula niya at hindi na raw ito bago sa kanya.

“Ako naman, I’m open to all criticisms, lalo na kung constructive.

“Eto yung tinatawag nating demokrasya.

“Nirerespeto ko ang opinyon ng kung sino man, ganun din ang pagrespeto sa milyun-milyong nanonood, nasiyahan, at natuwa sa aming pelikula.”

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/344198/showbiz/alamin-ang-bonus-ni-vic-sotto-kay-ryzza-mae-at-sagot-sa-open-letter-ni-lourd-de-veyra