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Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« on: December 20, 2013, 12:15:17 pm »
Just an opinion from a known political analyst I guess of what is this all about.


Politics only in the talk

Actions speak louder than words, the saying goes. Let us apply that in the Roxas-Romualdez brouhaha, where words have been the weapon of choice, aided by tears (one side), which helped to obfuscate the issues. The questions: Did the Aquino administration play favorites during “Yolanda”? Did the residents of Tacloban and Leyte suffer because the President is surnamed Aquino, and the political leaders of Leyte are Romualdezes?  Was Mar Roxas used by President Aquino to do the dirty work?
How do we answer these questions? Simple. Find out how much aid went to Tacloban, and track the work schedule of Roxas.
But first, a backgrounder. The Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council Law (Republic Act No. 10121) has implementing rules and regulations (IRR) accompanying it. To make doubly sure everyone knows what to do, it also has an operations manual. The basic principle is that in a disaster, the first responder is the local government unit, and if it cannot respond there are procedures to follow.
Yolanda struck on Nov. 8, but before then, official warnings were issued, all according to the IRR and the operations manual.  It was on the basis of the warnings, for example, that the mayor of a town in Samar evacuated his people to the hills (suffering very little casualties). In addition, as part of their SOP under Roxas’ watch, the Department of Interior and Local Government called up each and every chief executive of the 171 cities and municipalities as an extra reminder.
And where was Roxas on Nov. 8?  In Tacloban City, facing the storm. Voltz Gazmin and Roxas went there on Nov. 7, even if they knew the LGUs were the first responders.  Manila would be too far, Tacloban was in the center of Yolanda’s path, and they could coordinate the activities much better from there. In fact they met with provincial officials on Nov. 7.
With Gazmin and Roxas in Tacloban, they experienced first hand the strength of the storm.  As an interesting sidelight, Roxas called for a meeting at 6 a.m. on the day of the storm to make sure everyone knew their duties.  I am told that had he called for the meeting at a more normal 8 a.m., they would have been caught in their cabanas when the storm hit (the cabanas were given short shrift by Yolanda).
Another sidelight: When the wind subsided (from Typhoon Signal No. 4 to No. 2) at around 11 a.m., they made for City Hall which was close by. But with the roads rendered impassable in some places, it took them an hour to get there, only to find that City Hall was pretty much uninhabited. Their next stop was the police station where they set up a command post. But with communications extremely difficult, there was nothing to command or control, and they decided that it would be best to see to it that the airport was ready to accept the airlifts that they had arranged for.
But that was another problem.  They had achieved eight kilometers in four hours and had reached the Rotonda (another four km to go), and it was getting late. Their security told them they must turn back. It was then that they chanced on Mayor Alfred Romualdez and his family, who were also going back to the city center. It was the first time they saw
Romualdez that day.
The military personnel in the area cleaned up the airport, and the first of nine C-130 flights came the next morning (Saturday), with Dinky Soliman, bringing food, oil, body bags, generator sets, even a communications van, and taking out people who wanted to leave Tacloban.
Roxas was in Tacloban from Nov. 7 to Nov. 22, except for a flight to Cebu on Saturday night (Nov. 9); he was back in Tacloban on Sunday to meet President Aquino. He and Gazmin accompanied the President to Panay on Sunday night, but he was back in Tacloban on Monday morning. Thus, from Nov. 7 to Nov. 22, he was in Tacloban except for two nights.
The President wanted to personally assess the situation. He was met at the airport by Leyte Rep. Martin Romualdez and Mayor Romualdez, but the Romualdezes did not go to the President’s meeting with the local
NDRRMC. Only the city administrator and the vice mayor were in attendance. Go figure. Mr. Aquino is going again this weekend.
The famous meeting between Roxas and Romualdez took place on Nov. 14. Roxas reportedly said: “You have to understand, we are talking very straight here…. You have to understand you are a Romualdez and the President is an Aquino.”  Period. Actually, the next sentence, conveniently left out, provided the context: “So, he is being very careful in just taking over because he does not want to be misconstrued.” That makes a difference, doesn’t it?
Now, about the aid to Tacloban: The Armed Forces reports, on a day-to-day basis, from Nov. 9 to the present. It talks of military personnel and assets (trucks, etc.), food, medical supplies—name it. The food distribution list of the Department of Social Welfare and Development shows 531,624 food and rice packs going to Tacloban City (as of Dec. 9), with 1,016,343 packs going to the Leyte-Tacloban hub, and 442,677 going to the Eastern Samar hub.
It doesn’t look like Tacloban and the Romualdezes were left out in the cold. Politics does not appear to have been a factor here. Where did it come in? Not in the walk, only in the talk. Roxas wanted to protect his principal, and Romualdez wanted to protect himself (he was afraid that if he signed anything, it could be misinterpreted as a resignation). But certainly, Tacloban did not suffer from an Aquino-inspired vendetta; the Aquino administration (Roxas at the DILG, Soliman at the DSWD) cannot be accused of falling down on its job. And the military worked to protect the people and the state.


Taken from this article:
http://opinion.inquirer.net/67733/politics-only-in-the-talk

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 12:41:53 pm »
Here comes winnie monsod, the great supporter of our great democracy president cory aquino :)
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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 01:56:26 pm »
Here comes winnie monsod, the great supporter of our great democracy president cory aquino :)

Admittedly, it's a better argument than making statements that would be hemmed and hawed later on as the facts came to light.
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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 06:37:17 pm »
Here comes winnie monsod, the great supporter of our great democracy president cory aquino :)

Sige nga Bouya pasinungalingan mo ang mga sinabi ni Winnie Monsod, kayang kaya mo yan, bilib ako sa yo e hehe   ;D

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 08:23:40 pm »
I don't think winnie monsod will issue statement as concise as that without evidence. There is always papertrails to back her statement, specially on every meetings held. That is why mr. Romualdez do not want to sign the taking over. It is also good to know that the video went viral is meant to provoke hatred of the people but can never be use as evidence in any court.

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 09:07:09 pm »
isa sa mga binoboto ko... may sense kausap... hindi tipo ng madaming sinasabi pero hindi naman nasasagot mga tanong mo

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 09:51:33 pm »
Sige nga Bouya pasinungalingan mo ang mga sinabi ni Winnie Monsod, kayang kaya mo yan, bilib ako sa yo e hehe   ;D

Subic boy kaw kaya gumawa nian.. tamad ka ba?? Respect the post ganun lang un..
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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 10:22:03 pm »
And where was Roxas on Nov. 8?  In Tacloban City, facing the storm. Voltz Gazmin and Roxas went there on Nov. 7, even if they knew the LGUs were the first responders.  Manila would be too far, Tacloban was in the center of Yolanda’s path, and they could coordinate the activities much better from there. In fact they met with provincial officials on Nov. 7.

kung totoo nga to bakit inabot ang almost 5 days pero wala pa ring tulong at kinailangan pang magkaroon ng looting after 5 days at wala pa ring military presence, political aside in the end yung pagiging incompetent pa rin kasi kung andun na before hand dapat naaprehend na nila at since may idea sila sa storm surge, pinagpipilitan ni Roxas ang protocol kasi ayaw niyang matawag na epal pero kung naranasan nila ang disaster first hand gaya ng sinsasabi ni Monsod,common sense ang kailangan although in fairness kay Roxas almost di na na naliligo ang tao kasi sa kakasikaso pero in the end nagkulang siya dahil wala man lang contingency plan

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2013, 12:46:33 am »
yung kay roxas, it took them several days to restore some semblance of control since after the storm hit, bagsak lahat ng communication, it took them 1 or 2 days to go to cebu ata so they could communicate to manila and report and ask for help.

i think its not a single person's incompetence, its the system in place. obviously, the existing system to deal with disasters is no longer applicable these days, kailangan na baguhin. i dont think the government expected the damage to be as huge as it was.

whatever negative things people say about roxas and other officials there, the one positive thing is that they are there doing something even if some people call it incompetence and such, at least andun parin sila doing something.

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2013, 12:50:26 am »
And where was Roxas on Nov. 8?  In Tacloban City, facing the storm. Voltz Gazmin and Roxas went there on Nov. 7, even if they knew the LGUs were the first responders.  Manila would be too far, Tacloban was in the center of Yolanda’s path, and they could coordinate the activities much better from there. In fact they met with provincial officials on Nov. 7.

kung totoo nga to bakit inabot ang almost 5 days pero wala pa ring tulong at kinailangan pang magkaroon ng looting after 5 days at wala pa ring military presence, political aside in the end yung pagiging incompetent pa rin kasi kung andun na before hand dapat naaprehend na nila at since may idea sila sa storm surge, pinagpipilitan ni Roxas ang protocol kasi ayaw niyang matawag na epal pero kung naranasan nila ang disaster first hand gaya ng sinsasabi ni Monsod,common sense ang kailangan although in fairness kay Roxas almost di na na naliligo ang tao kasi sa kakasikaso pero in the end nagkulang siya dahil wala man lang contingency plan

Kasalanan na rin yan nung Senador na nagdraft ng protocol for national disaster risk management. Ang daming formalities ang pinaglalagay para yung mga namumuno ay magtuturuan pag dating sa actual na disaster. Mahirap ding sabihing maging handa kung sila romualdez mismo na dapat unang aaksyon ay nagevacuate sa ibang lugar during bagyo. Tapos bumalik lang sila nung tapos na ang bagyo at nakikipagtalo pa. Mabagal talaga ang naging action ng national government, pero dapat pa bang magsisihan sa ganoong situasyon? ang nakikita ko ginamit pa nila ang kalamidad at pagkamatay ng libong tao para magbatuhan ng dumi sa isat isa imbes na magtulungan sa panahon ng trahedya. smoking::

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2013, 12:56:23 am »
Kasalanan na rin yan nung Senador na nagdraft ng protocol for national disaster risk management. Ang daming formalities ang pinaglalagay para yung mga namumuno ay magtuturuan pag dating sa actual na disaster. Mahirap ding sabihing maging handa kung sila romualdez mismo na dapat unang aaksyon ay nagevacuate sa ibang lugar during bagyo. Tapos bumalik lang sila nung tapos na ang bagyo at nakikipagtalo pa. Mabagal talaga ang naging action ng national government, pero dapat pa bang magsisihan sa ganoong situasyon? ang nakikita ko ginamit pa nila ang kalamidad at pagkamatay ng libong tao para magbatuhan ng dumi sa isat isa imbes na magtulungan sa panahon ng trahedya. smoking::

kaya nasa kamay rin Roxas lahat kasi kung protocol lang ang paguusapan hindi dapat siya ang naglelead kung hindi ang National Defense, ang nakakatawa pa is buti pa yung Mayor ng Davao nakapabuo ng systematic procedure na wala naman siya during that time at nakita niya lang lahat pagdating niya na lang dun unlike sila Roxas - in short politically motivated din ang agenda ni Roxas/Aquino ang problema lang is yung gusto nilang ipakitang maganda is nagbackfire sa kanila

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2013, 01:58:31 am »
kaya nasa kamay rin Roxas lahat kasi kung protocol lang ang paguusapan hindi dapat siya ang naglelead kung hindi ang National Defense, ang nakakatawa pa is buti pa yung Mayor ng Davao nakapabuo ng systematic procedure na wala naman siya during that time at nakita niya lang lahat pagdating niya na lang dun unlike sila Roxas - in short politically motivated din ang agenda ni Roxas/Aquino ang problema lang is yung gusto nilang ipakitang maganda is nagbackfire sa kanila

True, all of both camps move is politically motivated. Roxas/Aquino's style is documentation and protocols, while Romualdez camp is more of Traditional politicians moved of dirty tactics using shame campaign with the best actor as himself. Kaya nga sila politicians kasi namumulitika sila. Ngayon, saan tayo lulugar, sa umiyak at umarte, sa mabagal tumulong? Para sa akin, wala. pare pareho silang basura. Sana may umusbong na leader sa pilipinas at hindi politiko de bobo lang.

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Re: Politics only in the talk - Winnie Monsod
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2013, 10:01:19 am »
Hindi ko maintindihan matalino ba ang pinoy o matalino lang sa pang gugulang at pangungurakot?  Nasaan na yung mga mambabatas after Yolanda?  Sa senate kung ano anong ini-imbistigahan nila for grand standing pero ang laging idinadahilan eh "In aid of Legislation"  now after Yolanda surely the protocol they drafted did not work so dapat itong pangyayaring ito ang pinag tutuungan nila ng pansin.  Hirap kasi sa atin kikilos lang pag nandyan na walang pro-active...tapos pano pag meron na namang bagyong dumating same problem ulit kaya sinasabi ng marami na walang improvement. 
Now nakita nila mga pagkukulang ng they said protocols of NRRDC (dont know the exact acro) so sana they revisit them as soon as possible para naman maiwasan sa susunod at magkaroon ng improvement.  Ang dami dami nilang mga mambabatas sa Congress at Senado mag trabaho sila gamitin ang mga katalinuhan sa mga ganitong sitwasyon hindi yung talino sa pangungurakot at pagtatago ng yaman.

Gaya nga nung sinabi ni Abdul J na trahedya na nga pero pinupulitika pa ginagamit pa para sa sarili nilang kapakanan ginagamit ang taong bayan para humingi ng simpatya.  I remember watching CNN they tagged Mayor Romualdez as ghost Mayor kase hindi nila nakita then when they interviewed him nagmalaki pa na pumunta sya sa rest house nila sa may tabi mismo ng dagat at dun sinalubong ang bagyo di ko alam kung katangahan ba ito o ano.  Tama ang gov't to blame the town Mayor kase nga may mga town's na less casualty kase sinunod nila ang warning.  Ang mali sa gobyerno o protocol eh walang contingency plan or plan B kumbaga kaya nga dapat palitan o i-improve ang protocol na yan sa naranasan ng bansa ito ang malaking "In aid of legislation". 

Nakakatakot lang sa dami ng mga nangyayari sa pinas di na naman mapapansing repasuhin ang mga patakaran makakalimutan na naman o maiisantabi maalala lang kapag nangyari ulit paikot - ikot lang.