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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2013, 01:01:02 am »
Let me reiterate for the sake of clarity. Security personnel would never result to violence if no looters will interfere.

Peace and order can only achieve if there is a law to begin with. ;)
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2013, 01:14:45 am »
The Mayor would want the event his offering to violence. He made mention of that just because he wants some pre-cautional measures. Basic instinct lang d naman siguro gusto ni Duterte na manakit ng tao. Sinabi nya lng yan as order to his men na pag hindi nadali sa madaling usapan e di yun yung solusyon nya sa mga taong matitigas ang ulo. Paspasan gusto nila dba e di paspasan din ang pagpapakalma.

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2013, 01:33:50 am »
“Do not FUCK with my (team). Hindi ako papayag ng ganun, anarchy? Paano tayo makakatulong kung lahat tayo puro mga actor?”  - DIGONG


Huwag ninyo ng subukan si Digong...


“So ang order ko kang Major Solamo (of Task Force Davao), whenever they are being stopped anywhere, they just have to announce that these contingents are from Davao City. We are there, with docs and meds. Sabihin nila, ‘huwag galawin to. Sabi ni Mayor Duterte, pag ginalaw to, babarilin ko kayo." 

Paano makakatulong ng maayos kung sa daanan pa lang niraransack na ng iilan ang mga gamot/pagkain? Paano na iyong hindi nanraransack?

Sir Richard Gordon of PNRC said na mga relief goods ng PNRC niraransack ang mga trucks.

THERE'S MUST BE AN ORDER IN TACLOBAN! THEY MUST NOT FUCK DIGONG!


DIGONG PARA PRESIDENTE
MIRRIAM SANTIAGO PARA VICE PRESIDENTE
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2013, 01:34:28 am »
yeah yeah yeah  ::lmao bobo na kung bobo

pero do you really need more violence? get shot in the feet give prosthetic after  ::pampam way to go for peace and bayanihan

Tanong ko lang, bakit ang mga security guard ng bangko laging may baril? Para saan ba yun? It's the same with what Duterte's message is.. If you try to steal from his team, they won't hesitate.. Kung ayaw nilang mamaril sila, edi wag magnakaw.. Simple as that..

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2013, 01:49:29 am »







Iyan lang ang hiling niya, huwag ninyo na siyang subukan.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 01:58:27 am by Spoiled Pandesalâ„¢ »
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2013, 04:19:28 am »
yeah yeah yeah  ::lmao bobo na kung bobo

pero do you really need more violence? get shot in the feet give prosthetic after  ::pampam way to go for peace and bayanihan

The name speaks for himself. Ayaw mo pa rin tumigil. Wag mo na kulitin. Nasa malayong lugar ka kasi kaya hindi mo maiintindihan at mararanasan. Nasa likod ka lang naman ng computer o tablet o kung ano pa man gamit mo sa pag opinion mo. Lahat kami iisa pagintindi sa sinabi niya, just guarding the goods para makarating talaga dahil ang totoong nangyayari is sa ibang bayan palang, nahaharang na goods na mga pinapadala nating mga donors (kung may nagdonate ka man o hindi wala na akong pakialam) yung threat para lang sa maintain ng peace and order, papakiusapan naman. Pag talagang papalag ka, eh ipinapahamak mo talaga sarili mo. Yung mga tao dun niraraid na yung malalaking bahay na nakatayo pa, ninanakawan by groups. Magtanong ka man sa insider, o ikaw mismo sumabak sa loob, malalaman mong may mga binabaril na dun mga looters hindi lang binabalita sa national news dahil gusto ng media bigyan ng hope ang lahat na tao na pinagsisikapang maibalik sa dati ang lahat. Alam mo namang media is good in making white lies. Pinaka close na sa katotohanang nangyayari sa loob yung sinasabi ni Duterte kaya sa tingin mo harsh pakinggan.

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2013, 04:41:40 am »
@Kenj...sorry dude, i strongly agree with the directive. In a 'Christianic' way...yah maybe those people in the remote areas where the convoy would pass are the last to get any sort of donation...hence the desperation. But seeing it's remote, they are still closer to natural resources that can help them survive longer compared to the ones in the cities.

One of our co-spy was right. I will never be shot or even warned. I'd just stay there at the side of the road then pray that they will throw me a bone. Coz if i try to hijack the convoy...not only will i get shot...i have this thin chance of avoiding death coz of blood loss, much worse...i can't sue anyone or complain that i got shot coz those relief teams were just DEFENDING THEMSELVES and avoiding life threatening danger.

Im really disgusted by all these looting happening around. Those people shouldn't complain now if ever a portion of the billions donated locally and internationally would go to some other people's pockets. Eh yung mga tao na din yung naunang magnakaw...nasa TV pa, nagdadahilan pa! The bad part is...when everything's back to normal, you can never say that someone wont have the guts to steal again...coz they already did it around this time.

In any case, i hope that at least 80% of the donation funds would be liquidated and distributed...or used to reconstruct.
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2013, 04:46:34 am »
Hanga ako kay Duterte...bakit di natin siya subukan sa pagka-presidente? Marami na rin tayong sinubukan pero puro palpak ang kinalabasan...tutal mahilig naman tayong makipagsapalaran sa mga TRAPO bakit di natin i-try si Duterte..

Wala na namang mawawala sa Pilipinas dahil sanay na sanay na tayo sa mga kurakot kung sakaling maging palpak din ang pamumuno niya....

Agree ako dito, ba't di natin subukan si Digong...

pumasok na rin kaya sa isipan nya na tumakbo bilang presidente?

sa akin lang gusto ko patakaran niya, hindi lang puro salita...

pag matigas ulo mo e sigurado may kalalagyan ka...

« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 04:51:10 am by DesperadO »

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2013, 08:08:47 am »
yeah yeah yeah  ::lmao bobo na kung bobo

pero do you really need more violence? get shot in the feet give prosthetic after  ::pampam way to go for peace and bayanihan

Para walang talo bakit hindi natin subukan papuntahin si Kenji dun sa Leyte para siya ang makiusap sa mga tao kapag sinimulan na nila agawin yung mga gamot na dala, tingnan natin kung kaya niyang pakiusapan yung mga tao at mapigilan niyang makuha yung mga dala na dapat sana ay mapunta sa tamang destinasyon at maipamahagi ng maayos para sa lahat ng nasalanta.

Tutal mukang may alam siyang ibang paraan para mapigilan ang mga nagugutom na tao doon na magnakaw at mang agaw ng relief.
Kung kaya mo silang pakiuspan Mr Kenji siguradong walang mangyayaring barilan sa paa diba?
At kung hindi mo sila mapakiusapan ikaw nalang ang magpabaril sa paa kapalit nung mga relief goods na hinayaan mong makuha at hindi nakarating sa tamang destinasyon.
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 09:33:04 am »
mas mabuti na lang wag na lang tayong magcomment
kung wala kayo dun sa sitwasyon
kasi mahirap talaga ang kalagayan nila doon

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 12:00:02 pm »
@typeone its ok bro everyone has its own opinion to share

but still i didnt like the idea of shooting a person directly because they only wanted to have a food for their family, ive watch the videos and viewed all the photos posted on facebook
And those people who loots are ordinary civilian fear of dying and i do understand that they need to loot a burger stand ransack a department store just to keep their family alive its not a nice scene to see but you cant blame them on doing it just to survive

And just to be clear i dont support looting or hijacking, ang akin lang since Enery relief operation has its military convoy then no looter would try to do it

And just to be honest i have relatives in Tacloban and Eastern Samar

And I know its for security reason why Duterte command them to do it if necessary if its the NPA or MILF then i wont mind saying i agree on the idea on shooting them

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 12:16:01 pm »
aminin na natin karamihan sa mga pinoy eh matitigas ang ulo.. ayaw magpasaway...

ngayon si Mayor Duterte eh may isang matibay na political will, kung may pagkakasala ka dapat kang parusahan

yan yung tama..

di na uubra sa pinas yung mga human rights na yan sa sobrang daming pasaway sa bansa... dapat talaga kamay na bakal na tulad ng pinapatupad ni Mayor Duterte kung nais mo pang mabago ang sistema sa Pinas.



kung haharangin mo sila at kukunin mo yung mga relief eh dapat talaga bigyan ka ng leksyon...

matuto ka maganatay at pumila ng maayos tulad ng nangyari sa Japan.. napaka sistematic, walang looter kahit hirap na pumipila ng maayos... ang bilis nila nakabangon...

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2013, 02:35:29 pm »
When a man in devastated Tacloban takes food from the shelf of an abandoned grocery, he is called a looter and a thief. When a man in Manila takes money meant for the man in Tacloban, he is called a senator

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2013, 05:45:04 pm »
walanghiyang Duterte yan  ba't naman ganyan....





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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2013, 06:43:02 pm »
kung ako ang nasa kalagayan nila. baka nakiki isa na din ako ngayon sa pagkuha ng mga pagkain. pero kung alam kong babarilin na ko kapag gumawa pa ako ng di maganda, gagawa pa ba ko ng di maganda? Kung ako ang may isang store, kukunin lahat ng paninda ko na pwedeng makain at mga damit maiintindihan at hahayaan ko lang sila. pero kung kukunin nila pati mga gamit sa bahay ko na hindi naman makakain tulad ng CP, TV etc at sasaktan pa ako, aba.. kung may baril ako hindi ako magdadalawang isip na paputukin un.


ang cons lang nanakikita ko sa sinasabi ni duterte na barilin sa paa kapag pinigilan ang team nya, pwedeng magresulta sa madugong gulo un.
ex: namatayan ka na ng kaanak tapos nakita mo pang nabaril ung kamag anak mo mag sasawalang kibo ka ba? baka magpatayan na talaga sila dun.

wala tayo sa sitwasyon kaya natin masasabi na hindi tayo kukuha o mang aagaw ng pagkain. ako,naniniwala ako na may edukadong tao din na nangaagaw ng makakain sa lugar na un. kung ano pa man,sigurado ako alam ni duterte ang ginagawa nya. hindi naman sya tanga tulad ng pangulo nyong si pnoy. peace..hehe
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2013, 07:26:42 pm »
Simple lang naman ang logic ng Law and Order brad, wag mo ng ipa complicate pa. Why focus on the punishment kung di ka naman guilty or di mo naman intent na gawin ang isang bagay. Tulad niyan, may instructions na na babarilin ang mag force loot eh di wag mo nang gawin kasi mababaril ka lang. Napaka layo na ng iniisip mo tulad ng pag nabaril sa paa eh magka prosthetics pa etc. at sino gagasto etc. Pshhhhhhh! They are being informed na ganun ang directive so wag nang gawin.

No offense meant ha, pero ang ganyang pag iisip usually ang ginagamit ng mga tao ng nasa Commission on Human Rights na sometimes masyado ng makitid mag isip eh. Eh ngayon may pinagsasabi ba ang human rights?

Eto pa example, rape. May batas na tayo dyan sa kung sino ang mang re-rape eh life sentence ang katapat. Bakit mo pa i argue kung bakit life sentence ang kapalit kung di mo naman intensyon na mang rape? Baka sabihin mo naman na ang harsh naman niyan, wala na bang karapatang mabuhay yung mga nang rape.

Ito lang, wala yan sa kung gaano ka gaan yung crime or sa bigat ng parusa, sa huli ang tao parin naman ang pipili kung ano ang gagawin niya. Bakit mo pa mas bibigyan ng pansin ang parusa laban sa guilty kesa sa isipin mo na lang ang Order na maidudulot nito?

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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 08:40:39 pm »

And those people who loots are ordinary civilian fear of dying and i do understand that they need to loot a burger stand ransack a department store just to keep their family alive its not a nice scene to see but you cant blame them on doing it just to survive

-this is the reason why we need law and order. Those ordinary civilian will never be different from common criminals if they only think of their own family. The duty of the relief goods is to provide relief to all affected areas.


And just to be clear i dont support looting or hijacking, ang akin lang since Enery relief operation has its military convoy then no looter would try to do it

-what we are explaining to you and you alone, those military convoy have guns not just for show. Hindi yan parang yung mga sisiga siga sa kalsada na ididisplay ang baril para katakutan lang. They have license to shoot just to achieve the objective of their mission.

And just to be honest i have relatives in Tacloban and Eastern Samar

-what would you feel kung relatives mo waited patiently sa designated relief center, tapos wala ng dumating dahil may mga swapang na inuna ang sarili nila para sila lang makasurvive?


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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 09:13:29 pm »
Uulitin ko para sa iyo Kenji_Kulet




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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2013, 04:36:35 am »
wala kasi tayong homeland security e

sa States noon hurricane Katrina
nasira New Orleans at florida

anong ginawa nila automatic martial law at military take over bakit kase alam nila magiging lawless ang lugar sa atin kailangan pa ng botohan sa kamara para magkaroon ng martial law



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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2013, 05:07:09 am »
totoo pala yung sa mismong paa patatamaan.  laffman::
and apparently, marami ang sumang-ayon or sinala lang ng rappler ang mga comment? :D

http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/issues/disasters/typhoon-yolanda/43606-netizens-react-duterte-shoot-looters
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2013, 05:11:39 am »
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Re: Duterte Orders Davao Yolanda relief teams to shoot looters...
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2013, 05:14:33 am »
oo nga nandun na tayo sa "survival instinct" ng tao yan , pero shooting someone really?

kung ikaw papayag ka ba na barilin ka sa paa?

sabihin na nating baha or maputik yung lalakaran mo tapos wala kang tsinelas binaril ka sa paa edi dagdag pasakit ka pa sa  ibang tao wala ka ng pagkain may tama ka pa ng baril

plus you need clean water to clean that wound and you also need clean bandage to cover it up

you can talk to the people seeking reliefs , shooting someone is not a necessary thing to do

Grabe ka kenjie parang nabagyo ang IQ mo. Hindi naman basta basta babarilin yan. Anong nangyari?