Topic: Snowden in Moscow, asks Ecuador for asylum

[FerminaDaza]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow-live
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/23/obama-administration-confirms-talking-to-hong-kong-about-snowden/

Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:00PM—Russian media has confirmed that Edward Snowden is now in Moscow after leaving his secret Hong Kong hideout. The same sources reported he has a ticket for an Aeroflot flight to Havana, Cuba http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2013/06/23/actualidad/1371975159_643533.html


Edward Snowden is reportedly seeking political asylum in Ecuador after arriving to Moscow today. The US has revoked his passport. The former NSA contractor has been on the run since he first revealed details of Verizon's participation in a telecommunications industry program to store information on all telephone calls, and then broke news of the NSA/Silicon Valley PRISM system that watches over the whole Internet.

[ogamer104]

Loves freedom kaya umalis sa US.Tapos tumakbo sa HK (China)then to Russia  finally ecuador which is a puppet
goverment naman ng Moscow.Lahat ng mga tinakbuhan nya mga champion ng human rights.

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

...and you believe western countries feeds in the media that they are the champions of human rights? 

[ogamer104]

...and you believe western countries feeds in the media that they are the champions of human rights? 

 

So,you believe na mas may rights ang tao sa china/russia kaya siya tumakdo doon?

Kumapara mo nga ang human rights record ng US and let say China.

[FerminaDaza]

update:

NSA Leaker Edward Snowden was supposed to be on Aeroflot Flight 180 from Moscow to Havana. He wasn't. But "dozens" of journalists are. It just took off. And there's no booze service on board.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nycjim/status/349111845778501632

Since Snowden's purported arrival in Moscow yesterday, scores of journalists have been staking out Sheremetyevo Airport, hoping to catch the 29-year-old ex-contractor as he left Russia, possibly with an eventual destination in Ecuador, where he's reportedly seeking asylum. When Russian media reported that he'd booked a ticket on Aeroflot Flight 180 to Havana, Cuba, a number of them did the journalistic thing and booked tickets as well.

Standing next to Edward Snowden's seat on flight to Cuba. He ain't here.https://mobile.twitter.com/maxseddon/status/349106511257161729/photo/1

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

So,you believe na mas may rights ang tao sa china/russia kaya siya tumakdo doon?

Kumapara mo nga ang human rights record ng US and let say China.

...whats' the reason of Snowden's leaks?  You mean that's find with you, youve been monitored 24/7 no privacy no basic liberties?

Nations youve mentioned, no such difference.

[ogamer104]

^ US = China?

Check AI nga pls. or baka sabihin mo pro west din ang AI.

Sino ba namonitor ng NSA ,ikaw?peeps like you or terror groups?

Ano kaya ang sasabihin mo  kung may mangyaring terror attack at hindi ito napigilan ng NSA CIA FBI?Ala silang silbi?Not doing their job?

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp... familiar isn't it?

Rendition well they're experts of doing it.

Palagay natin ikaw ay law abiding citizen hindi person of interest pero andoon ka sa Guantanamo via rendition?  Can you call yourself human? When considered you didnt exist anymore?

Human Rights 

[gkhan]

I just read in der Spiegel, the German magazine that there is a program similar to Prism that both the UK and US do in London.  The surveillance program is called Tempora. They monitor all citizens in the UK.

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

It was leak by Snowden regarding this nature of PRISM.

It contradicts to Lawful Interception.  Telecommunications carriers are required by law to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes under the terms of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) but what really happen without the consent to any telecommunications services/court order or to all individuals you've been monitored blatantly 24/7.


Another example of ridiculous US fascist authorities:

Twitter jokes ruin U.S. vacation for two British tourists

[ogamer104]

Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp... familiar isn't it?

Rendition well they're experts of doing it.

Palagay natin ikaw ay law abiding citizen hindi person of interest pero andoon ka sa Guantanamo via rendition?  Can you call yourself human? When considered you didnt exist anymore?

Human Rights 

Ilan ang nakakulong sa guatanamo na ganyan?Ilan doon yung mga hindi persons of interest?Mga santo ba mga tao dun?
How do you propose they treat terrorist at papaano nila ito huhulihin without sorting to those tactics.

Papaano kung may mangyari ulit na terrorismo ,ano ang masasabi mo?US govt's fault?Americans ?the Victims?

So ,ang bayani mo si Snowden ay tumakbo sa China at Russia dahil Champions ang mga bansang ito ng demokrasya?
Agree ka ba sa hero mo?

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

Walang nakakaalam kung ano ginagawa ng US sa loob ng Guantanamo?  Wala kasing legal representative kung sino andoon, alam ba natin kung sino sa loob?  Pagkakaalam ng lahat andoon ay mga terrorist kasi yan ang pinapapaniwala sa atin, meron ba dumaan ng korte may nahatulan? Kung walang problema ang treatment ng nasa loob ba't meron hunger strike nangyayari sa ngayon ano ba talaga ang mga hinaing nila?  Bat meron force feeding kung sila ay terrorist hayaan na sana mamatay sila lahat, di ba nakakalito?

Isipin natin kung ano ito Illegal Detention/Waterboarding/Injustice saan ang human rights... HUMAN kahit sino pa yan sa loob di yan mga monsters.

So malaking insulto yung mga biktima sa huling panahon ni Makoy na di dumaan ng paglilitis hatol agad kung yan ang pag-iisip natin na ok lang kahit di dumaan na paglilitis GUILTY agad.   

Ano ba talaga ang udlot ng Terrorismo? May gagawa ba nalang kung walang dahilan? Malaking katanungan ito sa US ba't sila palagi ang target kaliwat kanan.

Foreign Policy? sounds familiar.

Di pa ata alam kung saan si Snowden? Walang nakakaalam either he's a spy/ double agent/james bond.

CHINA/RUSSIA/USA parehas lng yan mga champions in creating fear to society, at bakit?  To control everyone.

[FerminaDaza]

Walang nakakaalam kung ano ginagawa ng US sa loob ng Guantanamo?  Wala kasing legal representative kung sino andoon,
Di pa ata alam kung saan si Snowden? Walang nakakaalam either he's a spy/ double agent/james bond.

en am worried na talaga, asan ka na ba baby?! US government puhleeezzz Don't hurt Edward, he's just doing what he thought was right! Edward, Edwaaaaard!!!!!

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

en am worried na talaga, asan ka na ba baby?! US government puhleeezzz Don't hurt Edward, he's just doing what he thought was right! Edward, Edwaaaaard!!!!!

Sis, malamang nasa Krypton na lol

[Idiot]

ha ha ahaha

surveillance program nakakatuwa naman ang CIA or MI6

ginagawang scapegoat si Snowden para maalis sa isip ng tao na nasa-surveillance na sila oras na gumamit sila ng facebook at twitter or just to point to their citizens na naka surveillance sila na where in fact hindi naman pero naka-surveillance sila na hindi

as i post it earlier

word of the lourd wrong to privacy at yung psychic facebook

^ US = China?

Check AI nga pls. or baka sabihin mo pro west din ang AI.

Sino ba namonitor ng NSA ,ikaw?peeps like you or terror groups?

Ano kaya ang sasabihin mo  kung may mangyaring terror attack at hindi ito napigilan ng NSA CIA FBI?Ala silang silbi?Not doing their job?

hahahaha naniniwala ka pala sa terror attacks

how come di napigilan yung boston bombing kung gumagana na nga yung sinasabi ni Snowden therefore kung na -execute na yung system na yan or program or procedure na yan bakit nangyari yung boston bombing or US shooting incident

if Snowden telling the truth therefore boston bombing will not occur but it occurs and they need to find a scapegoat to mask their stupidity and it seems CIA makes a show dahil alam nila yung ruta ni showden and using his name in his flights it doesn't make sense

now his expose abuot privacy was used now against him facebook twitter mobil data and many more  or just a show to feast by the journalist

[ogamer104]

Walang nakakaalam kung ano ginagawa ng US sa loob ng Guantanamo?  Wala kasing legal representative kung sino andoon, alam ba natin kung sino sa loob?  Pagkakaalam ng lahat andoon ay mga terrorist kasi yan ang pinapapaniwala sa atin, meron ba dumaan ng korte may nahatulan? Kung walang problema ang treatment ng nasa loob ba't meron hunger strike nangyayari sa ngayon ano ba talaga ang mga hinaing nila?  Bat meron force feeding kung sila ay terrorist hayaan na sana mamatay sila lahat, di ba nakakalito?

Isipin natin kung ano ito Illegal Detention/Waterboarding/Injustice saan ang human rights... HUMAN kahit sino pa yan sa loob di yan mga monsters.

So malaking insulto yung mga biktima sa huling panahon ni Makoy na di dumaan ng paglilitis hatol agad kung yan ang pag-iisip natin na ok lang kahit di dumaan na paglilitis GUILTY agad.   

Ano ba talaga ang udlot ng Terrorismo? May gagawa ba nalang kung walang dahilan? Malaking katanungan ito sa US ba't sila palagi ang target kaliwat kanan.

Foreign Policy? sounds familiar.

Di pa ata alam kung saan si Snowden? Walang nakakaalam either he's a spy/ double agent/james bond.

CHINA/RUSSIA/USA parehas lng yan mga champions in creating fear to society, at bakit?  To control everyone.

walang lawyers?Wanna check that out again.Google mo yan.

Hindi alam kung sino nasa loob?Gusto mo ng listahan?

walang korte?

May hunger strike din sa pinas at us federal prisons.does that mean mababait din lahat sila?

Bakit sila target?alam mo naman kung bakit diba?So,pakisagot nga kung ano ang sasabihin mo next terror attack.
Kasalanan ba ng mga namatay na sibilyan ang sinasabi mong kasalanan ng US govt?

Human ang isang terrorista?yung mga lumalaslas ng leeg ng isang tao dahil siya ay puti at ipost sa liveleak.Tao sila?
 

Bakit nga pala sila kinulong sa guatanamo?trip lng ba ng us na ikulong silang lahat?

Google mo yung Guatanamo,medyo sablay yung ibang info mo.

Rephrase mo yung kay mccoy medyo malabo eh.

 

[ogamer104]

 

Wala ng terror attacks dahil dun sa Prism?


 

Balikan nalang kita iho.

[Idiot]

laughing man

Wala ng terror attacks dahil dun sa Prism?


 laughing man

Balikan nalang kita iho. -

bakit nagkaroon nga ng boston bombing kung Activate na nga ang PRISM? please enlighten us

[FerminaDaza]

Sis, malamang nasa Krypton na lol

hihihi thanks ser Gat, he's a hero (he was just doing what his conscience told him to do)

anyha, wikileaks is back 

One of those people is Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. Snowden is "safe and healthy" and his "spirits are high," Assange told reporters begging for any scrap of information on a conference call this morning.

...be safe Edward  

[ogamer104]

bakit nagkaroon nga ng boston bombing kung Activate na nga ang PRISM? please enlighten us

Can Prism read your thoughts?

Gawa tayo ng hypothetical scenario.

If your an idiot terrorist and you will use internet to plan your attack,mag ee mail ka or txt sa mga kapwa terorista mo kung tuloy ang plano nyo.O kaya mag fb ka at mag tweet ng iyong galit sa amerika.Yan kaya ka ng hulihin gamit ang prism.

if your a smart terrorist.Hindi mo gagawin ang mga iyan.You will do the opposite..mag ala osama ka.

idiot, ilang milyon tao ang covered ng NSA?kaya ba nila mamonitor lahat ng tao?CAn it read all their thoughts?

example pa.

kunwari lang ha.Napasama ang gising mo isang umaga at naisip na TAMA NA!ang pang aapi ng US sa mga muslim.
Nagdala ka ng baril or patalim at pumatay ng mga sibilyan habang sumisigaw ng A...A. Assuming nasa US ka ha.
Mapipigilan ba ng prism yung gagawin mo?Ano yun minority report?

Sige ipilit mo pa na kaya ng prism pigilan ang lahat ng terrorist attack.

 

[Death Knight]

Ika nga nila, the pen is mightier than the sword. Kung buhay lang si Dr. Jose Rizal ngayon, baka isa siya sa mga priority targets for monitoring. joke! Yung mga katulad niya sa mundo, iyon ang mga ayaw nila, mga taong nakakapagbigay ng idea sa mga tao. Ang mga high priority targets siyempre nandiyan na yung politicians, political activists, businessmen, supreme court judges, etc. Pero ang mga idea posible ring manggaling sa mga pangkaraniwang tao, lalo na sa forums, social network sites, etc. Isipin niyo na lang ang nangyari noong EDSA 2 at kunwari may NSA capabilities ang gobyerno nating bulok. Matutunton ang trail of text messages, o kaya magkakaroon ng general idea ang mga ulupong sa gobyerno at baka makapagisip ng masamang plano. Sorry tinatamad na ako ipaliwanag pa ang technical details nito.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/23/1218102/-US-NSA-Accused-of-Criminal-Privacy-Violations-in-Dozens-of-Nations-Snowden-Blowback

[FerminaDaza]

Where's Snowden? Russia Rebukes U.S.: We Don't Have Him!


"We are in no way involved with either Mr. Snowden," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Tuesday. "He has not crossed the Russian border." Wait... what? Didn't he land in Russia on Sunday? How is that possible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23045790



Where are you baby  and which Tom Hanks-Steven Spielberg collaboration does your story more resemble? Is this is a last-minute plane escape, a la Catch Me if You Can? Or a stuck-in-the-airport-in-diplomatic-limbo fable as in The Terminal?

Where's your next stop baby? tc!

[Gat J.P. Rizal]

PRISM like information gathering program isn't always the answer puede magkakaroon ng lapses depends on the level of urgency in terror activities of tag individuals.  Ang nakakatakot lng dito puede ito magamit sa ibang purposes kagaya ng espionage, monitoring sa mga taong critical to government policies, opposition, aktibista, lahat ay walang kawala dito.

[FerminaDaza]

Obama speaks on Snowden.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCg6pHtCjo&sns=em[/youtube]

[FerminaDaza]

The much anticipated interview between Brian Williams and Edward Snowden aired on Wednesday night. It's interesting. It's also revealing in a nuanced way, bringing flashbacks to 9/11 and vignettes of this past year's worth of NSA revelations. Most of all, though, it's a rare peek into the whistleblower's mind.

At the top of the hour, Snowden answered an important question about the harm that his leaks may or may not have caused. Snowden told Williams that he didn't know of a single instance in which his disclosures hurt an American. "If there is, I'd personally like to know about it," he said. And he's got a point.

He acquired a vast cache of highly sensitive documents that could compromise national security if made public. But he also says that he tried to tell the government about the shady surveillance programs before the leak even happened. "I actually did go through channels, and that's documented," said Snowden. Brian Williams confirmed that Snowden did send at least one email to his superiors, notifying them of his concerns. Snowden's narrative of that process is worth quoting in full:

I raised these complaints, not just officially in writing through email… but to my supervisors, to my colleagues, and many of these individuals were shocked by these programs. And the ones that had [heard of them] went, 'You know these things are really concerning, but if you say something about this, they're going to destroy you.'

...Nevertheless, Snowden still wants to return to the United States. "If I could go any place in the world," he told Williams, "that place would be home."

h/t Gizmodo



watch the video below for full interview-


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOCmqZzXrdI&sns=em[/youtube]

Edwaaaard baby!! good to have a glimpse of you & hear you again-
and nah baby,you never hurt me ever- it just that kind of ' ovary-be combusting '
moment everytime i see you! toinkstugs!! be safe baby!