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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2013, 03:33:23 am »
INC doesn't endorse candidates, we don't claim that whoever we decided to elect, wins. INC doesn't ask, accept money or even contribution from non members, especially politician. And it's unfair to blaim INC if ever these candidates win and don't perform. We only comprised 2% of Philippines' population, other voters decided to put them on that position, not just INC.

Korek! yung iba diyan makapagsalita kala nila ALAM NILA LAHAT.... puro haka-haka at tsismis.... masyadong mapaniwala sa mga media na bumabatikos sa INC.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2013, 03:53:59 am »
So to our INC members here in Espiya, is there a chance that you will not vote (WTF) candidates on the list?  ;D

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2013, 03:59:59 am »
So to our INC members here in Espiya, is there a chance that you will not vote (WTF) candidates on the list?  ;D

do you actually believe they'd say "yes" to your question?  i mean, it is one thing to "not follow" what they are told to do.  it is another for them to actually admit it here in espiya. 
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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2013, 04:01:13 am »
No religious organization should endorse candidates.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2013, 04:03:46 am »
So to our INC members here in Espiya, is there a chance that you will not vote (WTF) candidates on the list?  ;D

Spidey.... musta na diha?

may links sa kabilang page backread nalang pre... ;)

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2013, 04:04:55 am »
No religious organization should endorse candidates.

even the Catholic Church is starting to "endorse" candidates via "black" / "white" or "team patay" / "team buhay", FYI.  
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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2013, 08:42:53 am »
Spidey.... musta na diha?

may links sa kabilang page backread nalang pre... ;)

okie lang bay...ikaw diyan? bakit parang tag-pula ka yata?

So ibig sabihin talaga eh magkakaisa kayo kahit sa pagboto. I don't complain with that, paniniwala ninyo yan eh. My point is, nawala yata yung freedom nyo sa pagboto.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2013, 09:05:55 am »
okie lang bay...ikaw diyan? bakit parang tag-pula ka yata?

So ibig sabihin talaga eh magkakaisa kayo kahit sa pagboto. I don't complain with that, paniniwala ninyo yan eh. My point is, nawala yata yung freedom nyo sa pagboto.

nope we have freedom, may eto links dre, 

Pagkakaisa muna paliwanag ko sayo:  http://batangtupa.blogspot.com/2013/05/ang-lubos-na-pagkakaisa.html

Then Ang Pagboto: http://batangtupa.blogspot.com/2013/05/para-kanino-ka-bumoboto.html

After mo mabasa kung "may oras ka magbasa. ;D"

eto naman ang ipapaliwanag ko:
May Kapalit ba ang INC sa mga polotikong BINOTO?
http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2013/05/ang-kapalit-ng-pag-endorso-ng-iglesia.html

after that.... Yung Sinuportahan ba ng INC NANAO AGAD?
http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2013/05/kapag-ba-sinuportahan-ng-iglesia-ni.html

kung may time ka depend sayo if magread ka...

stop muna ko diskusyon Dre nandun lahat paliwanag at tanong....

nasa gensan kapa bai? ;D dito na ako CDO... ;D


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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2013, 10:29:36 am »
nope we have freedom, may eto links dre, 

Pagkakaisa muna paliwanag ko sayo:  http://batangtupa.blogspot.com/2013/05/ang-lubos-na-pagkakaisa.html

Then Ang Pagboto: http://batangtupa.blogspot.com/2013/05/para-kanino-ka-bumoboto.html

After mo mabasa kung "may oras ka magbasa. ;D"

eto naman ang ipapaliwanag ko:
May Kapalit ba ang INC sa mga polotikong BINOTO?
http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2013/05/ang-kapalit-ng-pag-endorso-ng-iglesia.html

after that.... Yung Sinuportahan ba ng INC NANAO AGAD?
http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2013/05/kapag-ba-sinuportahan-ng-iglesia-ni.html

kung may time ka depend sayo if magread ka...

stop muna ko diskusyon Dre nandun lahat paliwanag at tanong....

nasa gensan kapa bai? ;D dito na ako CDO... ;D



okie dre...basahin ko. salamat sa links.


OT: Nasa Cebu ako before. dito ako now Middle east.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2013, 10:39:43 am »
okie dre...basahin ko. salamat sa links.


OT: Nasa Cebu ako before. dito ako now Middle east.

ilang years kan diyan dre? ingat palagi diyan... ;)

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2013, 10:45:39 am »
ilang years kan diyan dre? ingat palagi diyan... ;)

OT na tayo pre. hahaha...anyway, 5 years na ko dito. Thanks.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2013, 12:08:31 pm »
Magagaling sigurado ang lobbyist ng mga pulitikong iniendorso ng INC.
Ang tanong lang diyan e ano ang hiniging kapalit o ipinangako ni pulitiko kung ieendorso siya..Your guess is  as good as mine  ;D

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2013, 01:07:16 pm »
nakot yayaman lalo si bro. manalo, ,congrats sa inc panalo hahaha lakas ba naman nang pwersa nang boto sa dami ng miyembro lakas makahatak nito. .ang tanong lang din kung tama ba yung mga taong inendorse. . tsktsktsk

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2013, 07:34:22 pm »
So to our INC members here in Espiya, is there a chance that you will not vote (WTF) candidates on the list?  ;D

Of course, there will be some. After all, INC is composed of humans, and no man is perfect, we still commit sins. But to answer you question, "susunod muna ako sa Diyos bago sa tao". That's why we follow our Church leaders dearly. Personally, i don't like bam aquino, nancy binay and grace poe. WTF, they're just using their family name to secure a position. But if that's the decision of our Leaders, then, i'll follow.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2013, 07:40:05 pm »
Korek! yung iba diyan makapagsalita kala nila ALAM NILA LAHAT.... puro haka-haka at tsismis.... masyadong mapaniwala sa mga media na bumabatikos sa INC.

None of you know anything either.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2013, 07:50:05 pm »
None of you know anything either.

That's what you called faith.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2013, 08:25:47 pm »
Of course, there will be some. After all, INC is composed of humans, and no man is perfect, we still commit sins. But to answer you question, "susunod muna ako sa Diyos bago sa tao". That's why we follow our Church leaders dearly. Personally, i don't like bam aquino, nancy binay and grace poe. WTF, they're just using their family name to secure a position. But if that's the decision of our Leaders, then, i'll follow.

sabi nga ni preato_Ryan -- they are doing it what is best interest for their organization pero this logic is certainly WTF, dahil unang una sa word pa lang na "Diyos muna bago tao", una hindi naman diyos nagdesisyon kung hindi mga tao rin naman nagkataon na sila lang nag nasa taas na posisyon.

parang katulad na lang samin, kapag si Binay ang nanalo mas marami kaming makukuhang benefits pero we decided na wag na iboto, maaring kami ang makikinibanang pero paano naman ang iba? bilang malasakit sa kapwa tao mo, pipiliin mo ba ang sariling interest or makakabuti sa karamihan?

siguro in the end it's not the question of faith or religion pero kung mahal mo ba bansa mo or mahal mo sarili mo

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2013, 08:31:09 pm »
That's what you called faith.


You call it faith.... it is more correct to say "PANATISMO"... Pagsunod sa isang bay na hindi lubos nauunawaan.... Madalas sumusunod lang ang members dahil takot matiwalag.... hindi dahil sang-ayon sila sa pasya ng tangangasiwa....

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2013, 08:33:46 pm »
Of course, there will be some. After all, INC is composed of humans, and no man is perfect, we still commit sins. But to answer you question, "susunod muna ako sa Diyos bago sa tao". That's why we follow our Church leaders dearly. Personally, i don't like bam aquino, nancy binay and grace poe. WTF, they're just using their family name to secure a position. But if that's the decision of our Leaders, then, i'll follow.

salute to you fellow espiya.  you have just broken the stereotype cast on INC as a whole.  you just showed others that you are not blind and that you do have your own opinion.  others outside of your church do paint you as highly fanatic and blind followers.  only shows that you are not like what is stereotyped of you and your organization, and that such is an unfair "picture" of INC.  

INC man yan o Catholic, the end point is that our religion makes us better human.  if your religion succeeds in doing that to you, then your religion is good for you.  however, like all things, what is good for you may not be good for others.  the important thing is there must be respect among everyone.  
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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2013, 09:16:31 pm »
sabi nga ni preato_Ryan -- they are doing it what is best interest for their organization pero this logic is certainly WTF, dahil unang una sa word pa lang na "Diyos muna bago tao", una hindi naman diyos nagdesisyon kung hindi mga tao rin naman nagkataon na sila lang nag nasa taas na posisyon.

parang katulad na lang samin, kapag si Binay ang nanalo mas marami kaming makukuhang benefits pero we decided na wag na iboto, maaring kami ang makikinibanang pero paano naman ang iba? bilang malasakit sa kapwa tao mo, pipiliin mo ba ang sariling interest or makakabuti sa karamihan?

siguro in the end it's not the question of faith or religion pero kung mahal mo ba bansa mo or mahal mo sarili mo

I'm not quite sure what your religion is, but inside INC, whatever our Church Leaders decide, always has God's blessings and is based on he's teachings. So basically, that's following God. And whatever is good for our religion, is good for myself and for my country.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2013, 09:20:26 pm »

You call it faith.... it is more correct to say "PANATISMO"... Pagsunod sa isang bay na hindi lubos nauunawaan.... Madalas sumusunod lang ang members dahil takot matiwalag.... hindi dahil sang-ayon sila sa pasya ng tangangasiwa....

Nope, i'm not a fanatic. I understand it, and that's why i'm following it. Just like what i explained, i hate nancy binay, grace poe and bam aquino, the hell.. All of their ads include their famous relatives. But if our Leaders think that we needed to vote them, i will.

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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2013, 09:24:28 pm »
salute to you fellow espiya.  you have just broken the stereotype cast on INC as a whole.  you just showed others that you are not blind and that you do have your own opinion.  others outside of your church do paint you as highly fanatic and blind followers.  only shows that you are not like what is stereotyped of you and your organization, and that such is an unfair "picture" of INC.  

INC man yan o Catholic, the end point is that our religion makes us better human.  if your religion succeeds in doing that to you, then your religion is good for you.  however, like all things, what is good for you may not be good for others.  the important thing is there must be respect among everyone.  

Thanks pre, although i must admit, there are some members that because of too much faith resulted into fanaticism, but not all. We still have our own mind and decision. Only if outsiders will know and understand.

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 11:54:57 pm »
That's what you called faith.

A blind faith

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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2013, 12:16:50 am »
Nope, i'm not a fanatic. I understand it, and that's why i'm following it. Just like what i explained, i hate nancy binay, grace poe and bam aquino, the hell.. All of their ads include their famous relatives. But if our Leaders think that we needed to vote them, i will.

There is no point kasi na Magendorso ang INC ng mga Politikong miyembro ng mga relihiyong ayon sa INC mismo ay sa Demonyo. Pinagkakaisahan ng INC ang pagboto sa mga politikong ayon sa inyo ay sa demonyo. Maniniwala ang mga tao na ang "Pagkakaisa" ay kinakasihan ng biblia kung ang pinagkakaisan ninyong iboto ay hindi kaanib sa relihiyong ayon sa INC ay sa Demonyo.  Dapat sana ang pagkaisahang iboto ay Taong nakakaunawa ng aral, Turo ng biblia.  Kung naniniwala kayo na ang Aral ng INC ang toto... sinasangayunan ng biblia... Di ba Dapat ang mga namumuno sa bayan ay mga naturuan ng Aral ng INC? At bakit ipinagkakatiwala ng Tangapangasiwa ng INC ang pamumuno sa gobyerno sa mga taong walang Aral?

Ilan lang sa mga dahilan ang mga sumusunod.

1. Walang tiwala ang Tangapangasiwa sa mga members.
2. Mabubuking ng hindi sufficient ang INC block voting para maipanalo ang kandidato.
3. Kapag ibang relihiyon ang nakaupo at natulungan ng INC sa halalan, natural may pabor na kapalit.
4. Walang perang papasok sa iNC kung kapatid nila ang eendorso nila.

Hindi pwedeng idahilan na gawa ng laman ang politika na dapat layuan. Hindi po masama ang politika. Ang masama ay ang mga taong polito dahil walang aral ng biblia na sinusunod.

Pagkakaisa! pAgkakaisa!  Pinagkakaisahan ninyong iboto ang mga inaakay ng Demonyo.... Bakit hindi pagkaisahang iboto ang mga "Taong sa Dios"?

Mag-isip nga kayo....he!he!

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Re: INC endorses 7 Team PNoy, 5 UNA Senate bets
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2013, 01:09:13 am »
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There is no point kasi na Magendorso ang INC ng mga Politikong miyembro ng mga relihiyong ayon sa INC mismo ay sa Demonyo.

una hindi kami nage-endorso ng kandidato, not sure where you get this idea.

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Pinagkakaisahan ng INC ang pagboto sa mga politikong ayon sa inyo ay sa demonyo. Maniniwala ang mga tao na ang "Pagkakaisa" ay kinakasihan ng biblia kung ang pinagkakaisan ninyong iboto ay hindi kaanib sa relihiyong ayon sa INC ay sa Demonyo.  Dapat sana ang pagkaisahang iboto ay Taong nakakaunawa ng aral, Turo ng biblia.  Kung naniniwala kayo na ang Aral ng INC ang toto... sinasangayunan ng biblia... Di ba Dapat ang mga namumuno sa bayan ay mga naturuan ng Aral ng INC? At bakit ipinagkakatiwala ng Tangapangasiwa ng INC ang pamumuno sa gobyerno sa mga taong walang Aral?

ihahalal namin sila bilang pinuno ng ating bansa, hindi ng aming relihiyon. bawal po kasi sa amin ang tumakbo sa halalan. kung maaari lang siguro, mayroon naman sigurong mga kaanib ng INC na karapat-dapat at may kakayahang manalo, yun nga lang bawal.

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1. Walang tiwala ang Tangapangasiwa sa mga members.
2. Mabubuking ng hindi sufficient ang INC block voting para maipanalo ang kandidato.
3. Kapag ibang relihiyon ang nakaupo at natulungan ng INC sa halalan, natural may pabor na kapalit.
4. Walang perang papasok sa iNC kung kapatid nila ang eendorso nila.

1. false
2. false, we never claimed that whoever we decided to vote, wins
3. let us say na may pinayagang INC na tumakbo, hindi ba mas lalong magbibigay siya ng pabor sa INC. ang labo ng argumento mong ito.
4. ah, so you're implying na may bayarang nagaganap tuwing nagkakaisa kami sa pagboto?