Topic: History of Islam in the Philippines

[Fiz]

Pasensya na brad, pero laughably bad reasoning and bigoted at best. Ang Espiya pa ang tumutulong sa Islam ngayon.

Please hear me out.

Apparently you don't know the meaning of bigotry.  And try to follow where I am coming from (read my first posts about this).

I never stepped on any beliefs nor forced a superior religious position against any faith.  My original argument is data association and about harmonious respect in this forum.  I also second other ka-Espiya arguments about following the rules.

The simple reason of having teachings of Islam being posted in a "sexy" forum like Espiya.net does not bode well for usage of the identity of Islam.  Part of my work involves mining, analyzing, and processing ultra-large scale data, so I know what I am talking about.  In this case the noble "teaching of Islam" is associated with "sex, drugs, and others."

In a study of mass usage of internet services, Muslim dominated countries is the leader for searches involving sex and pornography.  It has become a clear and present danger to the image and integrity of Muslim communities under Sharia law.

The response of Mullahs, Imams, Islamic Scholars, and secular leaders is to forcibly block a lot of websites.  However it shows that a lot of their citizens are looking for ways to counter that. 

So in this regard I implore you to THINK like Mahatir Mohammed.  Do a cost-benefit analysis with the image, association, identity of the teachings of Islam as the capital.

tsk tsk.. magiging masama kung di natin matatanggap ang paniniwala ng muslim...

ang hirap kasi sa atin... pag naririnig natin ang muslim... masama agad iisipin natin sa kanila...

compare nga natin ang bansa natin sa bansa ng mga arabo... mas maraming krimen nangyayari sa pilipinas...

tingnan natin ang telebisyon natin.. halos araw araw... kristiyano laman ng balitang patayan... pero di binabanggit ang relihiyon...

kaya nga nagpapasalamat ako kay islam_way... atleast naipapahayag niya kung ano ang tunay na muslim at ano ang kanilang paniniwala...

pero ang hirap sa atin.... di natin matanggap ito kasi nga... tinamaan ang paniniwala natin...

hirap kasi sa iyo... sarado utak mo... pagnabanggit muslim... bin laden agad pumasok sa utak mo!

ikaw ata nagpapasama sa islam!

Please see my response to Paprika above.  Please THINK like Mahatir Mohammad. 

Also let me remind you that you yourself affirmed that Espiya.net is haram.  Read my reply to Paprika about data association.

My main advice is to do a cost-benefit analysis.  There are more ways than to insist the teachings of Islam in Espiya.  And if you insist on having Islam in Espiya there are more ways to do that without stepping on the beliefs of others.

I hope what you are doing is worth it.

[Fiz]

why do we always need a figure head? why don't we just start to make changes within ourselves? for all we know walang religion na makakasave sa atin.for me religion is your personal relationship with your god. and church was built to take control of the people. and it sounds like politics to me.
i remember one of co espiya here saying " religion is like penis. its good to have one. pero huwag mong iwagayway na parang ikaw lang ang meron nito o ang sayo lang ang pinakamagaling. at lalong huwag na huwag mong isalaksak sa lalamunan ng iba na ayaw naman nito." something to that effect.
what ts just posted was just purely copy paste. and the message there was  how was religion used first to build a certain form of government and later papalawigin ang nasasakupang area. and to my observation, it was so similar with what the spaniards did. the difference was the muslim came in without a competitor. thats why competition begun between the two in a form of war.
to make myself clear wala akong pinapanigan na religion. im jusk making comments based on my observations.
   

Nice post.  Salamat sa ganito.

[Paprika]

Funnily enough pre kasi ang reason mo is because Espiya is a 'sexy' forum? A gigantanormous misnomer. Sexy? May very could be? Forum? No doubt. Forum? Yes! Forum? Of course! Forum? Where people talk about things? Obviously! Pero.. may nakita ka bang slight provocation ng pagiging 'sexy' based on your definition from the nature sa website alone? Try visiting the frontpage. Wala akong nakikitang 'come here, we sell women, sex, porn, or prostitution.' It just came to be by itself kasi it's a FORUM. And not just any, an adult forum. Hindi naman ito sexyespiyanoislamallowed.com. Emphasis: It's a foruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum, where people talk and share about thingsssssssssssssssssssssss. 

Wala dapat tayong pakialam kung maka-Jesus o maka-Allah o maka-Manalo pa man, ang importante kaya mong panindigan. There is no discrimination of any forms (i.e racial, religious, sexual) here. Pre, sinong may pakialam sa statistics mo? Nakakatawa ka't sinisingle out mo ang pagkakaroon ng isang religion. I should think Mahatir Mohammed? I don't care kay Mahatir Mohammed! 

Tingnan natin ang case ni pareng voyager___ hindi ba siya maaring ikonsiderang nakakasira sa INC? Possibly pero who cares. It's a general opennnnnnnnnnnnnn forummmmmmmmmmmmmm nga ehhhhhhhhhh.

[2fear!]

Funnily enough pre kasi ang reason mo is because Espiya is a 'sexy' forum? A gigantanormous misnomer. Sexy? May very could be? Forum? No doubt. Forum? Yes! Forum? Of course! Forum? Where people talk about things? Obviously! Pero.. may nakita ka bang slight provocation ng pagiging 'sexy' based on your definition from the nature sa website alone? Try visiting the frontpage. Wala akong nakikitang 'come here, we sell women, sex, porn, or prostitution.' It just came to be by itself kasi it's a FORUM. And not just any, an adult forum. Hindi naman ito sexyespiyanoislamallowed.com. Emphasis: It's a foruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum, where people talk and share about thingsssssssssssssssssssssss. 

Wala dapat tayong pakialam kung maka-Jesus o maka-Allah o maka-Manalo pa man, ang importante kaya mong panindigan. There is no discrimination of any forms (i.e racial, religious, sexual) here. Pre, sinong may pakialam sa statistics mo? Nakakatawa ka't sinisingle out mo ang pagkakaroon ng isang religion. I should think Mahatir Mohammed? I don't care kay Mahatir Mohammed! 

Tingnan natin ang case ni pareng voyager___ hindi ba siya maaring ikonsiderang nakakasira sa INC? Possibly pero who cares. It's a general opennnnnnnnnnnnnn forummmmmmmmmmmmmm nga ehhhhhhhhhh.

nice... pareng fiz... kuha mo? its forum... espiya country... kahit ano.. pwedeng pag usapan! hindi kabastusan lang...

aminin mo na lang na galit ka kay islam way.. wag kang magpalusot na hindi pwedeng pag usapan dito ang relihyon...

[Fiz]

Funnily enough pre kasi ang reason mo is because Espiya is a 'sexy' forum? A gigantanormous misnomer. Sexy? May very could be? Forum? No doubt. Forum? Yes! Forum? Of course! Forum? Where people talk about things? Obviously! Pero.. may nakita ka bang slight provocation ng pagiging 'sexy' based on your definition from the nature sa website alone? Try visiting the frontpage. Wala akong nakikitang 'come here, we sell women, sex, porn, or prostitution.' It just came to be by itself kasi it's a FORUM. And not just any, an adult forum. Hindi naman ito sexyespiyanoislamallowed.com. Emphasis: It's a foruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum, where people talk and share about thingsssssssssssssssssssssss. 

Wala dapat tayong pakialam kung maka-Jesus o maka-Allah o maka-Manalo pa man, ang importante kaya mong panindigan. There is no discrimination of any forms (i.e racial, religious, sexual) here. Pre, sinong may pakialam sa statistics mo? Nakakatawa ka't sinisingle out mo ang pagkakaroon ng isang religion. I should think Mahatir Mohammed? I don't care kay Mahatir Mohammed! 

Tingnan natin ang case ni pareng voyager___ hindi ba siya maaring ikonsiderang nakakasira sa INC? Possibly pero who cares. It's a general opennnnnnnnnnnnnn forummmmmmmmmmmmmm nga ehhhhhhhhhh.

Well it is good for directly pointing that you don't care about Mahatir Mohammed.  That tells tales.

1)  Si voyager_?

Well voyager_ is reported with islam_way (Pls. see forum section: Reported to Anti-Bastos Brigade).  This is proof that I am in no way against one and singular person.  Issues were presented and I deal with those issues. 

Also I want to give credit where credit is due, in fairness voyager_ is now back to his pakikisama ways.  He toned down and is in friendly mode.

2)  Open Forum?  But there are rules

There is a rule wherein you can't post in the religious section before certain standards are met.  This was pointed first and foremost by other members.  Also there is this thing about respect to other ka-Espiya.

nice... pareng fiz... kuha mo? its forum... espiya country... kahit ano.. pwedeng pag usapan! hindi kabastusan lang...

aminin mo na lang na galit ka kay islam way.. wag kang magpalusot na hindi pwedeng pag usapan dito ang relihyon...

3) Open Forum Part 2 "There is no discrimination of any forms..., it's a FORUM"

Well then "pareng" 2fear! (and Paprika) as long as Espiya is "open" (and thank you for pointing that out) then there is no reason for people to stop in voicing out against your (presumptuous) methods and ways. 

I hope you guys don't take this personally, I vote for that openness but that freedom is not absolute (there are rules and respect is foremost in any forum).

[budotukmol]

bakit may mga taong hindi nila kayang ipaliwanag ng maayos ang isang bagay na hindi sinisiraan ang iba? bakit kelangan mong pintasan ang iba para mag mukha kang matino sa lahat? di kaya't nakikita mo lang ang sarili mo sa kanya? ang magnanakaw ay galit sa kapwa magnanakaw. madalas sabihin ni mayor digong duterte na "there are no holy cows". kung magpapalit ba ko ng relihiyon ibig sabihin ba ay hindi na ko magkakasala? kung dineklara ba ng pastor na born again ka na at save na, hindi ka na magkakasala habang buhay? kahit anong relihiyon pa , kaya mo bang sundin ang lahat ng alituntunin para matawag kang banal?