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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2011, 08:30:10 pm »
marami sa mga lumalapit sa panginoon ay MAUTAK, si brother eddie? mayaman yan, si wendie mayaman yan yon ba ung kinidnap? e lalo naman si mike velardo namputsa grabe yan sa yaman dagdag mo pa mga manalo, panlong panalo , marami kasing palalong tao ginagamit ang pangalan ni Lord para sa makamundong hilig ..ang masasabi ko lang sa mga ito MAUTAK ginagamit ang skills para maka attract at maka kobra ng barya ng mga mahihirap din, isipin mo naman madami yang pinag sama sama,,


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sana lang din wag naman natin ilahat ng katoliko ay bad para itira natin sarili natin

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« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2011, 08:45:20 pm »
Sana sa sunod na pgsimba ko e mabanggit din ng pari yung topic na to,kasi twing simba ko e hindi pumapalya yung pgbanggit ng RH Bill e.Ako na lang parati tinatamaan,sana next time e yung pari naman ang tatamaan sa sermon nya.  smoking::

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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2011, 09:36:19 pm »
         Ako ay isang Roman Catholic din, in my own opinion kahit ano pa sabihing alibi ng mga BISHOPS na sangkot sa isyu ay mali talaga ang kanilang ginawa. Sa akin lang aminin nila ang kanilang kasalanan at panindigan ang desisyon ng nag imbestiga sa kanila kung sakali man. Kahit Bishop sila hindi sila exempted sa batas.
         Pero hindi yun hadlang para itigil ko ang pagsamba sa Panginoon at dahilan para laitin ko mga pari at bishops. Alam ko maraming mga pari at mga bishops na hindi mabuting halimbawa sa mga mananampalatayang katoliko pero hindi naman sila ang sinasamba ko.
         

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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2011, 09:53:58 pm »
         Ako ay isang Roman Catholic din, in my own opinion kahit ano pa sabihing alibi ng mga BISHOPS na sangkot sa isyu ay mali talaga ang kanilang ginawa. Sa akin lang aminin nila ang kanilang kasalanan at panindigan ang desisyon ng nag imbestiga sa kanila kung sakali man. Kahit Bishop sila hindi sila exempted sa batas.
         Pero hindi yun hadlang para itigil ko ang pagsamba sa Panginoon at dahilan para laitin ko mga pari at bishops. Alam ko maraming mga pari at mga bishops na hindi mabuting halimbawa sa mga mananampalatayang katoliko pero hindi naman sila ang sinasamba ko.

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« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2011, 12:05:41 am »
PCSO = PA CAR SA OBISPO.  laffman::

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« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2011, 01:03:28 am »
pero ang diperensya kasi yung SUV ay for luxury at sa pansarili nilang kapakanan. Alam nilang mali yon pero tinanggap pa rin nila.

Marami silang pagkakataon para magisip kung tama o mali ung pagtanggap ng mga SUV's na yun.

Sana wag nilang gawing rason ang " tao lang sila at nagkakamali ". Alam nilang mali yung ginawa nila pero ayos lang kasi wala pang nakakahuli... pero ngayong nahuli na iba na ang usapan..." tao lang sila "

eh kaya nga sabi ko eh na FALLIBLE sila. they are capable of commiting mistakes.

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« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2011, 01:09:30 am »
gusto mo bang pa pahabain ang itawag sa mga taong kagaya nila?! "Mga Bishop na Walang Kahihiyan sa sarili, sa tao at sa Diyos." Ganun din yun mga Walang Hiya. Hindi masamang magbitiw ng salita sa taong dapat pagukulan ng mga ganyan salita.

ang linis mo naman...

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« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2011, 02:23:59 am »
eh kaya nga sabi ko eh na FALLIBLE sila. they are capable of commiting mistakes.

yes. pero ang point kasi, kung hindi pa sila nahuli, hindi pa nila ibibigay ang mga SUV's at hndi pa sila mag aapologize.

ibig sabihin ba na talagang tinanggap na nilang mali yung ginawa nila... matagal na nilang alam na mali pero hindi sila gumawa ng paraan para itama... hanggang sa may magbatikos na mali ang ginawa nila.

iba kasi ang nagkamali at may ginawa para itama... sila kung hindi pa nahuli, magkukunwari na lang silang walang maling nangyari.



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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2011, 02:32:10 am »
innocent until proven guilty, regardless on how we generally feel against corrupt authority in any institution.  toast::


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« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2011, 03:02:42 am »
practice what you preach :)
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« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2011, 03:24:37 am »
"Priestcraft" is the art of deception.   ::)
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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2011, 07:32:12 pm »
Kanina nag-explain na sila of their uses for the vehicles especially sa far flung areas, siguro yung mali lang ang fund na pinagkunan ng ginamit sa pera na nai-release. I think strategy lang ito ng bagong board ng PCSO as a diversionary tactic to hide their intention to privatize the agency para ibenta sa KKK tsaka ang napapabalitang mass termination ng mga casuals, contractuals and confidential agents. Mga 700 yata ang matatanggal sa trabaho which they tend to execute after sa SONA ni PNOY around August or September.  Kagaya lang ito nung scam dati na me pakana ang mga relatives ni PNOY nung Sweepstakes days pa.  They want to destroy PCSO from within para magkapera ang mga gigil sa PCSO. Kung nakikita lang ng mga senators kung gaano ka luma ung mga equipment at sasakyan ng ibat-ibang provincial district offices ng PCSO.  If they only knew kaso ang privatization or abolishment ang gusto nila.  If that happens the government is definitely making a big mistake.

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« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2011, 12:23:19 am »
I salute all the Bishops who attended the senate hearing earlier. They faced all false accusations with out most humility & courage & in the end the truth came out. Now the the question is why call them "Pajero Bishops" if there are no Pajeros found in their possession at all? - - "false media" or people who are just too quick to judge!


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« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2011, 12:41:48 am »
bro as of today July 13 2011- yung mga bishops na nasangkot sa controversy about the pajeros is wala talagang pajero ang binigay sa mga Obispo bro kung puros utility vehicle ang mga gamit ng mga obispo/bishop sa kanilang pastoral work at puros second hand pa ang mga e2 pcso check ang binigay kung pinanood yung hearing sa blue ribbon committee one bishop said he canvass the cheapest utility vehicle at yung sobra ay iniligay nila sa social action funds sa naging author ng topic na e2 did you balance all the facts before you put the word MGA WALANGHIYA 1st brod pondo ba ng simbahan ang ginamit ng mga obispo na e2, second brod pajero nga ba yung binili when the pcso chairman - Margarita P. Juico binbawi niya yung word na pajero kasi nakita niya sa mga Obispo na hindi pajero ang binili kung utility vehicle 4x4 pick-up kasi nga hindi kaya ng pajero ang umakyat ng bundok brad and dumaan sa ilog at sinabi niya na hindi ko po alam kung kanino po galing yung pajero kaya nga siya sinabon ni Sen. Estrada kanina na nilagay ni Margarita P. Juico ang bishop sa kahihiyan binabawi yung word na pajero kasi media raw ang nagpalabas hindi na nakorek Margarita P. Juico yung word na yon sa media kasi may eveidence si Sen estrada na pajero yung word na ginamit but according to GMA 7 online, ABS-CBN and TV5, she stated the word pajero, kaya nga naawa sila senator Estrada, Lacson, Sotto and the other senators except kay enrile na observe ko yon kanina kasi nga pilay-pilay na sila sasabihin ko sa iyo bro mahirap ang maging pari, obispo kasi mga missionary sila like yung bishop of Bontoc Lagawe ang hirap ng roads diyan bro bro bkit ko pinagtatangol ng mga bisho p aamin ko sa iyo dati akong semenarista at sakristan sa simbahan namin lahat ng sasakyan na gamit ng mga kaparian ay puros second hand na binili kung di naman ay donated ng pamilya ng Pari o Obispo na nasa ibang bansa o mga individual na tao, bro sasabihin ako sa iyo na kuwento alam mo ba na yung sasakyan namin sa parokya namin is binili nung 1994 from solicitation and donation kasi wala ngang service utility vehicle isuzu pick up brand-new nasa 1.2 million as I recall ilang taon na sa tinging mo ngayon yun 1994 binili and it is in well good condition bro sasabihin ko sa iyo gingamit namin yun for pastoral works and relief operations. Kaya nga kanina sa blue ribbon hearing si Margarita P. Juico ay binubooooo ng mga tao dahil wala siyang makita na butas na madiin yung mga bishops dahil ang bishops or even priest they go first in spiritual and observation counselling or dismemberment para kung kalingan ba ng sasakyan. kung naging oraorada sila kasi their was a need to have a utility vehicle, hindi dapat ang mga obispo ng tinira mo d2 yung PCSO management because the bishops requested only assistance, kasi nga hindi naman nila alam kung saang trust fund ng PCSO kinuha yung budget sa pagbili sa mg utility vehicles bagkos nag-request sila ng assistance na grant binili yung sasakyan thats it eh malya ba ng mga bishops na sa charity fund pala kinuha yung pondo at hindi sa Other Expenditures and Subsidies kiniha according to Chairman Margarita P. Juico sinabi niya kanina sa Kamara kaya nga siya na booooo, Pero bro mark my word hindi ang mga bishop ang nalagay sa controversy d2 kung-di PCSO and minfd you bro pinanood mo ba yung 1st and second hearing ng blue ribbon comittee and also bro in my own opinyon yung mga senators na nag apology sa mga bsihop kanina mag-dodonate na ng personal vehicles nila sa mga yan o kaya mga taong mabubuti ang loob para magkaroon ng magamit na sasakyan ang mga bishops to continue their spiritual, community and pastoral works of charity.

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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2011, 12:49:18 am »
Buti na lang nahuli agad. Kundi marami pa manghihingi ng bnew SUV para sa birthday nila.  ;D



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« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2011, 12:50:49 am »
Pulot po >>>>>

Bishops, ‘kadiri!’

Shock and outrage are all over because millions of pesos in Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office funds meant to help poor Filipinos were instead used to purchase vehicles for certain members of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines.

What these men in robes did was very wrong on several counts.

The 2005 CBCP Statement on Gambling said that based on MORAL teachings, “…the CBCP has made it a collective policy:.. to refrain from soliciting or receiving funds from illegal and legal gambling so as not to promote a culture of gambling; and to encourage church personnel and church institutions to refrain from doing the same, even when the objective may be that of helping the poor.”

The PCSO is mandated to manage legal numbers games. Even if proceeds go to charity, the money is still from gambling, legal as it may be. Clearly, therefore, these bishops violated their own policy and did something immoral. “Helping the poor” cannot be a justification here.

I wonder if the CBCP will discipline these bishops.

Art. VI, Sec. 29(2) of the Philippine Constitution states, “No public money or property shall be appropriated, applied, paid, or employed, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, sectarian institution, or system of religion, or of any priest, preacher, minister, other religious teacher, or dignitary as such, except when the priest, preacher, minister, or dignitary is assigned to the armed forces, or to any penal institution, or government orphanage or leprosarium.”

Even for a non-lawyer like me, this provision is self-explanatory. As plain as day, what then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, PCSO officials, and the bishops did was not only morally BUT legally wrong.

Even if those vehicles are used for social work, they still are used by, benefit, and support, directly and indirectly, the Roman Catholic Church and the bishops. It is this simple.

I wonder if cases will be filed against those involved.

Last May 28, I wrote “The church of the poor” (http://espiya.net/jnvdow) which specified the stock holdings of various Catholic entities in the Bank of Philippine Islands (BPI) and Philex Mining Corporation. Then, their total assets in stocks totalled P17.5 billion.

Three months later, stock prices rose. Based on Philippine Stock Exchange (PSE) 7 July 2011 records, their holdings in these corporations are now worth a whooping P18,040,238,371.80.

These Catholic entities earned P567 million doing nothing!

This is not all. The lists of their top 100 stockholders corporations submit quarterly to the PSE, Catholic entities have the following holdings in these corporations:

1. San Miguel Corporation (SMC) as of 31 June 2011 (the number to the right indicates ranking in list of stockholders)

• (31) El Superior De La Corporacion Filipina de Padres Agustinos Recoletos, Inc. with 7,370,000 shares;

• (75) Superior De La Corporacion Archicofradia De N.P.J.N.

De Recoletos with 1,234,603 shares;

• (79) Carmel of the Divine Infant Jesus of Prague Inc. A/C No. 2 with 957,516 shares;

• (81) The Roman Catholic Bishop of Tuguegarao with 856,639 shares;

• (83) Real Monasterio De La Purisima Concepcion De Nuestra

Madre Santa Clara De Manila with 809,834 shares;

• (91) Superior De La Corporacion De Padres Recoletos Por

Becas Y Vocaciones with 621,702 shares;

• (93) Carmel of St. Therese of the Child Jesus with 592,956 shares;

• (97) The Discalced Carmelite Nuns of Cebu with 451,864 shares; and

• (100) The Roman Catholic Bishop of Nueva Segovia De Vigan with 428,067 shares.

In SMC alone, RCC groups own a total of 13,323,181 shares worth P1,698,705,577.50 (at P127.50/share) as of 7 July PSE Market Information.

2. Ayala Group as of 31 March disclosure

• (64) Roman Catholic Bishop of Tagbilaran with 10,000 preferred B shares worth P1,015,000.00 (P100.10/share);

• (73) The Roman Catholic Bishop of Tuguegarao with 24,015 Ayala Corp. shares worth P7,828,890.00 at P326.00/share; and

• (100) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila with 373,740 Ayala Land shares worth P5,890,142.40 at P15.76/share.

Total share value of RCC entities in Ayala Group is PhP14,734,032.40 as of 7 July.

3. PHINMA Corporation as of 30 June 2011

• (20) Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent De Paul with 159,575 shares;

• (21) The Roman Catholic Bishop of the Diocese of Juan De Dios with 153,880 shares; and

• (52) Religious of the Virgin Mary 58,975 shares.

In PHINMA, they own 372,430 shares valued (as of 5 July) at P12.30/share or a total of P4,580,889.00.

4. Concrete Aggregates Corporation (CA) as of 31 March 2011

• (9) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila with 78,486 shares;

• (18) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila – Real Casa De

Misericordia with 13,067 shares;

• (24) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila – Hospital De San Juan De Dios with 8,317 shares;

• (66) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila – Hospicio De San Jose with 1,898 shares; and

• (97) The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila Mayoromia Dela

Catedral with 841 shares.

In CA, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila’s various arms own a total of 102,609 shares worth P4,514,796 as of 7 July at P44.00/share.

5. PAL Holdings, Inc. as of March 31

• (22) Roman Catholic Bishop of Cebu with 215,250 shares; and

• (98) Congregacion De La Mision De San Vicente De Paul with 42,059 shares.

Here, they own 257,309 shares valued at P1,240,229.38 (P4.82/share as of 7 July.)

There are a few more minor holdings that are not included here and many more corporations can be examined. Even without touching the RCC’s real estate properties (which are surely worth many billions), and its highly profitable businesses like schools and hospitals, it is quite clear that the RCC as a church, as well as its various entities are FILTHY RICH.

Catholic stock holdings alone in identified corporations already total to almost 20 billion pesos! Not bad for a Church, really.

What gets my goat is the fact that despite their untouched billions, the good bishops have the gall to compete against poor Filipinos for meager government funds. And for what? Vehicles that they can very well afford to buy.

Bishops, this is very, very wrong. This is kadiri!


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« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2011, 12:53:51 am »
sabi na nga ba na ang mga obispo ay mga corrupt din... ang gagaling magsermon gawain din pala nila...

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« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2011, 01:33:50 am »
Statement of Bishops Before The Blue Ribbon Committee

Honorable Members of the Senate:

We thank this august body for inviting us to shed light on an issue that has deeply saddened not only the seven of us but all the Catholic faithful. We hope that our presence will aid your work of legislation. We shall reply with great respect to your questions as far as the facts enable us.

We are from provinces that have some of the most difficult areas that we as Bishops have to reach. Most of us are from calamity or conflict-stricken areas. We serve communities some of which are the poorest of the poor. Our vocation is to help them in so far as we can with our resources. When we lack resources, we seek the assistance of others, especially from those whose mandate is to provide assistance, particularly in health services and in charity. Some of us received service vehicles from PCSO that are heavy duty 4 x 4 pick-ups in order for our social, health, and charitable services to reach remote areas. Others received vehicles that have multiple purposes of bringing indigent sick people to hospitals or distribute food, medicines, and clothing to calamity stricken families.

We are very grateful for the help extended to us. We still believe that we have not violated any law, or even the Constitution. We express our sadness that our sincere desire to help people and receive necessary assistance for doing so has confused, disturbed and even scandalized many of the Catholic faithful. As our pastoral statement has said, we honestly “failed to consider the pitfalls to which these grants could possibly lead.” We also express our “readiness to do everything that is necessary to heal this wound so that we can all move forward in hope.”

For this reason, regardless of whether the acquisition of the vehicles has been lawful or unlawful, constitutional or unconstitutional, we are returning the vehicles. The vehicles in Mindanao are ready for immediate turnover to a duly authorized PCSO official. The vehicles in Luzon are right now outside the Senate for immediate turnover to PCSO officials.

Again, we thank Your Honors for this opportunity to voice our sentiments on this matter.

Thank you and God bless you.

Archbishop Orlando Quevedo, O.M.I.
Bishop Rodolfo Beltran
Archbishop Ernesto Salgado
Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian, SVD
Archbishop Romulo Valles Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos

July 13, 2011


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« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2011, 04:09:28 am »
sabi na nga ba na ang mga obispo ay mga corrupt din... ang gagaling magsermon gawain din pala nila...

sabi nga ni sara " magmayor ka muna bago mo ako pagsalitaan ng ganyan" kaya mag magpari ka muna bago ka magsalita ng ganyan

BROD expand mo namn isip mo ha palitan natin konti statement mo masyadong purol yang laman e

"sabi ko na ba e may ka corrupt ding obispo, kawawa naman yong iba madadamay wala ng makikinig sa sermon ng iba"

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« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2011, 04:17:07 am »
kalokohan!!! nahuli lang sila kaya sosoli nila...
kung hindi sila nahuli? tuloy ang ligaya...

tsaka wala man Pajero... SUV naman at tumangap sila ng pera sa PCSO... para sa kanila ba yun???
try mo mangutang sa PCSO...
yung kaibigan ko may sakit sa puso dahil walang pera humingi ng tulong sa PCSO pero tinangihan sila...
pero itong mga sugo ng Diyos kuno, hihingi lang kay Gloria ng Bday gift pagbibigyan na? wtf!!!

Bday gift po bday gift... yun ang reason nung isang Obispo, nung magkabukuhan biglang bawi at sabi para matulungan ang nasasakupan... a bunch of hypocrites... hope they burn in hell!!!!

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« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2011, 04:18:13 am »
kalokohan!!! nahuli lang sila kaya sosoli nila...
kung hindi sila nahuli? tuloy ang ligaya...

tsaka wala man Pajero... SUV naman at tumangap sila ng pera sa PCSO... para sa kanila ba yun???
try mo mangutang sa PCSO...
yung kaibigan ko may sakit sa puso dahil walang pera humingi ng tulong sa PCSO pero tinangihan sila...
pero itong mga sugo ng Diyos kuno, hihingi lang kay Gloria ng Bday gift pagbibigyan na? wtf!!!

Bday gift po bday gift... yun ang reason nung isang Obispo, nung magkabukuhan biglang bawi at sabi para matulungan ang nasasakupan... a bunch of hypocrites... hope they burn in hell!!!!

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« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2011, 05:54:05 am »

 ang ilan dito magaling magbatikos, bago nyo batuhin nang putik ang iba tignan nyo muna ang sarili nyo. puro init nang ulo pinaiiral nyo nde nyo naman alam ang puno't dulo. tanungin nyo muna sarili nyo kung may nagawa ba kayo sa bayan para masabing kapaki pakinabang kayo sa lipunan? pati mga obispo pinaratangan nyo agad nang masama dahil lang sa media hype.

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Re: PAJERO Bishops (((MGA WALANGHIYA!)))
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2011, 12:02:34 pm »
ang ilan dito magaling magbatikos, bago nyo batuhin nang putik ang iba tignan nyo muna ang sarili nyo. puro init nang ulo pinaiiral nyo nde nyo naman alam ang puno't dulo. tanungin nyo muna sarili nyo kung may nagawa ba kayo sa bayan para masabing kapaki pakinabang kayo sa lipunan? pati mga obispo pinaratangan nyo agad nang masama dahil lang sa media hype.

tomo :applause

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Re: PAJERO Bishops (((MGA WALANGHIYA!)))
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2011, 12:28:42 pm »
kalokohan!!! nahuli lang sila kaya sosoli nila...
kung hindi sila nahuli? tuloy ang ligaya...

tsaka wala man Pajero... SUV naman at tumangap sila ng pera sa PCSO... para sa kanila ba yun???
try mo mangutang sa PCSO...
yung kaibigan ko may sakit sa puso dahil walang pera humingi ng tulong sa PCSO pero tinangihan sila...
pero itong mga sugo ng Diyos kuno, hihingi lang kay Gloria ng Bday gift pagbibigyan na? wtf!!!

Bday gift po bday gift... yun ang reason nung isang Obispo, nung magkabukuhan biglang bawi at sabi para matulungan ang nasasakupan... a bunch of hypocrites... hope they burn in hell!!!!

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Re: PAJERO Bishops (((MGA WALANGHIYA!)))
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2011, 12:54:55 pm »
ang ilan dito magaling magbatikos, bago nyo batuhin nang putik ang iba tignan nyo muna ang sarili nyo. puro init nang ulo pinaiiral nyo nde nyo naman alam ang puno't dulo. tanungin nyo muna sarili nyo kung may nagawa ba kayo sa bayan para masabing kapaki pakinabang kayo sa lipunan? pati mga obispo pinaratangan nyo agad nang masama dahil lang sa media hype.

i agree!!! who are we to curse them & tell them to burn in hell?  :(