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ninjasipato

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Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« on: June 21, 2011, 02:46:15 am »
Guys, sa tingin niyo ba na ang relihiyon natin ay nakaka-apekto sa pag-unlad ng ating bansa?

Ano tingin niyo sa separation of church and state sa bansa natin? Nasusunod ba o hindi?



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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 02:48:59 am »
Corruption < -- ito salarin
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 02:53:50 am »
the religious close mindedness to future implications of their actions is a hindrance to progress
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 02:58:15 am »
Quote from: Gat J.P. Rizal on June 21, 2011, 02:48:59 am
Corruption < -- ito salarin

Oo, Korupsyon talaga ang salarin kaya hindi umuulad ang Pilipinas. Maiba, sa tingin mo po ba nakaka-apekto ang simbahan kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas?
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 03:08:19 am »
I hope magkaroon ng maayos na diskusyon dito. medyo sensitive kasi ang religion eh.
anyway,
sa tingin ko hindi naman...
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 03:12:21 am »
Quote from: ninjasipato on June 21, 2011, 02:58:15 am
Oo, Korupsyon talaga ang salarin kaya hindi umuulad ang Pilipinas. Maiba, sa tingin mo po ba nakaka-apekto ang simbahan kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas?


Sa tingin ko, simbahan talaga ang humihila sa bansa natin pababa...

puro squatter ang nasa paligid ng mga naglalakihan at nag gagandahang gusaling bato ng mga simbahan.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 03:13:40 am »
sa tingin ko hindi naman..
ang me problema talaga dito e yung nasa loob ng palasyo at mga nakaupo dito..
as long na sarili lang naman iniisip nila..
e hindi uunlad ang Pinas kahet kailan..
KORAPSYON,KATIWALIAN yan ang tunay na dahilan at di makausad ang pinas..  smoking::
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 03:15:54 am »
It is praying to the wrong gods that prevent the blessings of our Lord to flow to our country.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 03:16:29 am »
Quote from: Pall-Eren-Mnr on June 21, 2011, 02:53:50 am
the religious close mindedness to future implications of their actions is a hindrance to progress

 finger4u Very true!

Sa tingin ko naman kaya ginagawa ng mga politiko yung ganon, nag-papalakas sila sa simbahan. Makikipanig sila kung ano ang opinyon ng simbahan para pagdating ng eleksyon malakas sila sa mga tao. Opinyon ko lang naman yon.  ;D
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 03:24:59 am »
Quote from: Gat J.P. Rizal on June 21, 2011, 02:48:59 am
Corruption < -- ito salarin

It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.
                                           
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 03:58:20 am »
Quote from: john on June 21, 2011, 03:15:54 am
It is praying to the wrong gods that prevent the blessings of our Lord to flow to our country.

praying : how to do nothing and still think you're helping. 
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 04:07:12 am »
Quote from: john on June 21, 2011, 03:15:54 am
It is praying to the wrong gods that prevent the blessings of our Lord to flow to our country.

pag may kumontra lipat tayo ng  board  ;D
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2011, 04:10:19 am »
Quote from: voyager_ on June 21, 2011, 04:07:12 am
pag may kumontra lipat tayo ng  board  ;D
pwede na ba kayo dun ?  ???
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2011, 04:42:00 am »
walang tax ang mga simbahan kaya dapat wala sila karapatan na diktahan ang gobyerno kung ano ang dapat nila gawin sa bansa ... magbayad sila ng tax at pwede na nila sabihin na walang rh bill at divorce sa bansa ....
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 06:00:39 am »
kahit ung mga nasa simbahan or ung ibang relihiyon may kuroption kaya please wag silang magmalinis . hindi natin magagawa ung PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH :( sad ugly truth
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 06:19:26 am »
medyo broad po yung question for me. progress in terms of ano po ba ang pag-uusapan natin? kung progress ng bansa sa tingin ko hindi naman. ang pinakanaiisip ko lang ngayon na clash ng religion at gobyerno are yung issues regarding the divorce bill at RH bill e. Oo napakadami na ng dami ng tao sa Pilipinas at ang dami na ring mga mag-asawa ang dati pang gusto maghiwalay pero yung mga bill nga ba na yun ang pipigil sa ugat ng problema? Kapag ba naging legal ang divorce ibig sabihin mawawala na yung mga abusive, psychologically incapable, at polygamous na asawa? Maaaring masosolusyonan mo ang ilang relationship with divorce but it can also create a cycle na people will want to take the easy way out instead of resolving their own personal issues. Siguro kung science ang pag-uusapan maaari pa na masabi na hindrance nga siya to scientific progress gaya ng sa cloning at stem cell research, but then again siguro hindrance lang yun from a human's point of view.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 07:38:20 am »
Quote from: Pall-Eren-Mnr on June 21, 2011, 02:53:50 am
the religious close mindedness to future implications of their actions is a hindrance to progress
religion can be viewed as this ^

or as a motivation to good deeds to others, hence, everybody happy. religion teaches us to not be
self centered, help those in need, be honest, be humble, be patient, hard working etc. etc. etc...

why blame the religion ke mapa muslim, kristyano o ano pa e kabutihan naman ang tinuturo nila.

conclusion:
its those who are in position (hindi politiko kundi yung mga leader ng religion) ang
nagpapahamak sa followers. why muslims are badged as terrorists? it's because some (not most, marami ako kilala na muslim na di hamak mas mabait saken) leaders teach their followers to "die" for the sake of their land,
para daw makamit ang rightfully na sa kanila. i call BS. why not understand each other, practice what you preach
and be a model. yung mga leader din nila ang makikinabang sa "promised land" tapos yung faithful
followers e yung mga namamatay.

sa mga faithful followers naman, it's not hard to go against your leader. believe in your conscience and do
what is right. kung titignan naten ang bible o koran libro ng magagandang aral hindi gera o hindi rason
para magkawatak watak ang utak at sambayanan.

religion == good conduct

^ pag iba ang tinuturo sanyo, magduda ka na.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 01:50:01 pm »
Is Religion a Hindrance to progress? I dont think so... In fact, religion can lead us to success. But make it sure that our religion is the true religion. Madami na kasing pekeng religion.Yung mga nagkalat na religion ngaun, karamihan pera pera lang ang gusto. Ang mga relgious leaders lang ang may progress, yung members nila, naghihirap.

Dapat maghanap tayo ng Religion na totoo, Tapat yung leader, hindi matakaw sa Pera, tumutulong sa kapwa, at laging sumusunod sa aral ng biblia. Mag-ingat tayo sa panahon ngayon, maraming naglipanang BULAANG PROPETA...
e.g. Bro. &*&&^%^%^ he!he! madaming magagalit pag nagbigay ako sample ng name ng bulaang propeta... he!he!
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 03:12:08 pm »
Ano ba naitulong ng religion sa pagpapaunlad ng ekonomiya ng Pilipinas?
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 04:08:50 pm »
Lets reverse the situation .....Ang simbahan nanaman ang ating  pahirapan ....
Lets start with a question to the Roman Catholic Church
WHERE DID THE BIBLE CAME, WHO  COMPILED IT AND HOW INTO THE  BIBLE TODAY? Specially the New Testament.

Honestly, from preschool until I have graduated in college I was a product of RC schools. There was not  single year they thought us the contents of the bible, Jesus life, Christian life, Parts of the mass and etc. But, how it came into the modern bible I could not remember any.

Not until I have stumble it lately on History and Discovery Channel Episodes.. I was very disturb and feeling to begin lossing my religion.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 04:12:56 pm »
i refuse to think so... ang approach ko dito is the same as my take on "traditions". i have seen and been on organizations that have been keeping age old traditions up to this day at masasabi ko kung hindi naman sila napag-iiwanan ng panahon. Religion, same thing as traditions, hindi nawawala ang issues and arguments that things should be let go and scratched off, some people would argue that this things, they can do without and may be better off... most of the time, keeping traditions may make an organization seem outdated but that's also part of their identity that they make extra efforts to keep them and still keep with the times.  "while an average, normal and typical man would choose among two, the better man would be extraordinary and try to have  both."

religion cannot be taken out of the equation when talking about progress... we know that progress is inevitable without a set of rules and laws... a governing body, when creating by laws to exercise sovereignty, considers religion, culture and natural laws. no law should be implemented if it conflicts with at least one.  
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2011, 04:57:50 pm »
Quote from: gardov on June 21, 2011, 03:12:08 pm
Ano ba naitulong ng religion sa pagpapaunlad ng ekonomiya ng Pilipinas?
There are many private schools and colleges owned and operated by religious groups, and their tuition fees are expensive that only people belonging to the middle class and those above them can afford to pay them. It’s sad that poor people cannot send their children to these schools and colleges, and does this mean that the social responsibility to provide quality education for the poor lies only in the government mired by corruption and inefficiency? 

Maybe the reason is that these schools and colleges are big business for profit-making, but is it fair and correct that taxes are not paid by their owners?  Now where’s the love for the poor and social responsibility to help them get quality education when there’s big business on it and it’s even tax free?
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2011, 05:41:58 pm »
Religion is not a hindrance to progress only corrupt religious leader is.
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 05:45:34 pm »
Religion is not a hindrance to progress... Only closed-minded people (the so-called conservatives) and the corrupt hinders any nations progress... toast::
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Re: Is Religion a Hindrance to progress?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 06:50:50 pm »
Ang puno't-dulo nyan, bukod sa corruption e, hindi God fearing ang ibang pinoy, which leads to maling palakad ng gobyerno oar kurapsyon!, ang iba naman God fearing kaso di nila alam niloloko lang sila ng pastor o pari nila.... tsk tsk tsk

By the way...

Kung tama ang Relihiyon
1) hindi ito Hindrance sa pag unlad ng bansa.
2) Hindrance lamang ito kung mali talaga ang palakad ng Gobyerno.

Kung Peke ang Relihiyon or Religion of Hypocrites.
1) Hindrance yan sa pag unlad ng Bansa, nag di-disguise lang sila na kampi sila sa Dios at sa tama
2) Hindrance yan ksi di nila alam ang kanilang ginagawa, kc niloloko sila ang pastor o pari nila
3) Mas lalong Hindrance kung mali ang palakad ng Gobyerno

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Separation of Church and State...

Gumagana naman yan sa bansa natin, kaso lang hindi masyado effective..
Kasi, halimabawa pari ka, you represent the church, di ka dapat maki alam sa gobyerno. PERO bilang isang mamayan ng ating bansa may karapatan siya bilang indibidwal, disregarding his pagka-pari. (ganun yon)

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