Topic: DIVORCE BILL (hay ano bang mga pulitiko kayo????? )

[2fear!]

...iba din naman yun impact sa mga bata if they grew up knowing their parents fights or stop caring,
loving each other.

Our childhood and past experiences will have a strong impact to our future love choices.

If you want your children to have the best chance to grow up in
a secure and intact home, I strongly suggest that you first work to
preserve and protect your marriage. Your children should not come
before your marital relationship.You will be a better parent if you
become a better spouse.

...I really don't think you should stay in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the children.
Your personal UNHAPPINESS will have much damaging effect on your children
than your Divorce ever could.

Yet,You owe it to your children to work very hard on your marriage,and DO everything you CAN
to make it work.But if you come to the point where you realize that the marriage cannot work,
then you owe it to your children to separate from your partner,and FREE yourself to find
the Love you deserve,and the  Relationship They CAN ONE DAY LOOK UP TO.

Children wants to see their parents HAPPY.They feel responsible for making their
parents happy,and believe me,they know when you aren't,NO MATTER HOW GOOD
YOU THINK YOU ARE HIDING THE TRUTH from them.If you stay in an unhappy marriage for the
sake of the children,I believe you will be causing them more HARM than if you divorced.
"I stayed for your sake"IS NO FAVOR. this put a tremendous pressure on a child.

The bottom line is :

If your children see you being well loved,they will feel lovable and hopeful about having a
wonderful relationship.If your children see you being unloved,they will feel unlovable
and pessimistic about having a wonderful relationship.

Sadly,just like the song "cats in the cradle" child  become exactly what,how he/she grow up with. 

maam.. short explanation lang po...

madalas kasi di rin namin binabasa yang mga ganyang paliwanag... nakakabagot basahin kasi... sensya na!

sa tingin ko may point din si sir drake kasi yung mga anak talaga ng product ng broken family ang kawawa
sabihin na natin na may pera silang nakukuhang suporta sa parents nila pero may psychological effect parin yan sa mga anak nila hindi ibig sabihin na sinusoportahan sila ng parents nila financially eh magiging masaya na talaga sila


though hindi rin naman ako against sa divorce bill

sir sa tingen mo ano mas matinde ang psychological effect sa mga bata yung nakikita nila ang parents nila halos araw araw nagaaway , nagmumurahan at nagbubugbugan halos wala na respeto sa isat isa at miserable ang buhay o kaya yung parents nya na hiwalay at masaya sa kanya kanyang buhay, hinde naman porket nagkahiwalay na ang mag asawa titigil na ang pagiging magulang nila sa kanilang anak ....

[FerminaDaza]

maam.. short explanation lang po...

madalas kasi di rin namin binabasa yang mga ganyang paliwanag... nakakabagot basahin kasi... sensya na!

ayus lang sir 2! pa edit mo na lang po.

sensya ka din po,di lang naman ikaw ang nagbabasa po.

but if you will assure me that what you think matters and you represent all the spy,

mag-gagantsilyo na lang po ako ...

[2fear!]

ayus lang sir 2! pa edit mo na lang po.

sensya ka din po,di lang naman ikaw ang nagbabasa po.

but if you will assure me that what you think matters and you represent all the spy,

mag-gagantsilyo na lang po ako ...

wag po ma offend maam... nagsa-suggest lang ako...

kasi maraming nagmamahal sa iyo dito sa espiya...

[gardov]

para sa mga against sa divorce bill, sana ay matauhan na at itigil na ang panonood ng mga fairy tales.

nangyayari talaga na may mga relasyong hindi nagtatagal at kailangang maghiwalay...

[alphaflight]

Ayoko nang Divorce Bill...

You were joined together by God through holy   matrimony... let no man separate.

Acts 5:29
 We ought to obey God rather than men.

[voyager_]

Ayoko nang Divorce Bill...

You were joined together by God through holy   matrimony... let no man separate.

Acts 5:29
 We ought to obey God rather than men.

they are obeying naman e....


god ......ng darkness

[blackteeth]

kunti na lng kasi sumosunod sa batas ng Dios.. peace sa mga demonyo  

[gardov]

Ayoko nang Divorce Bill...

You were joined together by God through holy   matrimony... let no man separate.

Acts 5:29
 We ought to obey God rather than men.

Tama!

Deuteronomy  24:1-2

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife


yan. divorce sa bible meron din. pero kawawa naman yung mga babae, kapag sila lang ang nahanapan ng butas or in other words, kapag sawa na sa kanila yung lalake, saka lang allowed ang divorce.

pero kung yung lalake, ayon sa bibliya, ay hindi pa nagsasawa kahit na yung babae ay abused na masyado, hindi pedeng idivorce ng babae si lalake.

[gardov]

they are obeying naman e....


god ......ng darkness

ganun.

hindi ba ikaw yung napahiya na dati na nagsabing hihiwalay ka sa iyong relihiyon kapag napatunayang may mas malaking populasyon ng kristyanismo sa far east?

[voyager_]

ganun.

hindi ba ikaw yung napahiya na dati na nagsabing hihiwalay ka sa iyong relihiyon kapag napatunayang may mas malaking populasyon ng kristyanismo sa far east?

hanapin mo thread na yun para may pruweba ka...

at di ba totoo na sinabi sa bible na kung ano ang pinagsama ng DIYOS ay di dapat paghiwalayin ng tao?

now kung wala kang tiwala sa sinabi ng bible.... problema mo na yun...

paki ko sa diborsyo nyo...follow your "dark lord"..

Tama!

Deuteronomy  24:1-2

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife


yan. divorce sa bible meron din. pero kawawa naman yung mga babae, kapag sila lang ang nahanapan ng butas or in other words, kapag sawa na sa kanila yung lalake, saka lang allowed ang divorce.

pero kung yung lalake, ayon sa bibliya, ay hindi pa nagsasawa kahit na yung babae ay abused na masyado, hindi pedeng idivorce ng babae si lalake.

at old testament pa binanat mo hehehehehe

[batang espiya]

RH BILL = YES
DIVORCE BILL = YES

SAME SEX MARRIAGE = NO

[gardov]

 

hanapin mo thread na yun para may pruweba ka...

at di ba totoo na sinabi sa bible na kung ano ang pinagsama ng DIYOS ay di dapat paghiwalayin ng tao?

now kung wala kang tiwala sa sinabi ng bible.... problema mo na yun...

paki ko sa diborsyo nyo...follow your "dark lord"..

at old testament pa binanat mo hehehehehe

kasama sa bibiliya ang old testament di ba?

naku hindi na mahahanap yun at na idelete na ang theology section. dahil nagkaroon na ng mga death threats galing sa nananampalataya.

nagpalit ka pa nga ng username mo e para lang maalis ang kahihiyang dinulot mo sa iyong sarili. pero ayos lang yan. tanggap ka pa rin naman ng espiya kahit na wala kang isang salita.

anyway, kung tutol ang church, yung mga nagpakasal na lang sa city hall ang bigyan ng karapatan hehehe. tutal pirma lang naman.

[dexmage]

annulment, malaking pera ang paguusapan dyan at maraming taon... plus, makikialam pa ang church.

divorce, mabilis at mapaguusapan ng mas maayos kung anong suporta ang dapat na maibigay  sa babaeng ididiborsyo. city hall at lawyer lang ang kasama sa equation.

magkaiba talaga ang divorce at annulment. walang pakialam ang church sa annulment kasi merong legal annulment at church annulment. magkaibang proseso yun. pwede kang makakuha ng annulment sa church pero hindi sa batas at vice-versa. yung sinasabing mong divorce na mabilis lang at hindi kelangan ng masyadong pera, sa ibang bansa lang yun. pakibasa na lang po yung bill na naka-file sa house of representatives.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35768034/GABRIELA-PARTY-LIST-S-HB-1799-Divorce-Bill

[~Muska~]

Yes to RH Bill and No to Divorce Bill and Same sex marriage.

Masyado lang ako bilib sa sanctity ng kasal kaya hindi ako pabor. Pero to each his own tayo ng opinion. Wala sana magreply sa post ko at tirahin ang akin po lamang opinion.  

[wapapakz]

sir sa tingen mo ano mas matinde ang psychological effect sa mga bata yung nakikita nila ang parents nila halos araw araw nagaaway , nagmumurahan at nagbubugbugan halos wala na respeto sa isat isa at miserable ang buhay o kaya yung parents nya na hiwalay at masaya sa kanya kanyang buhay, hinde naman porket nagkahiwalay na ang mag asawa titigil na ang pagiging magulang nila sa kanilang anak ....

sir pakibasa ang post ko wala akong sinabing nagdisagree ako
sinasabi ko lang ung realidad
meron pros ung divorce bill pero may cons din yan

[perverted26]

Hindi talaga maiiwasan na sumawsaw ang simbahan sa Divorce Bill na yan...
Kasi nga sa linyang: Ang pinagsama ng DIYOS ay hindi dapat paghiwalayin ng tao...

Kaya lang kasi mga Sir na nag-i-stick sa fairy tale book, Isa nang malaking kalokohan yan ngayon.

Ang dami nang scenario ng hiwalayan...

Hirap sa mga relihiyoso e...

I'm a Pro RH Bill at Divorce Bill.
Tanggapin na lang yan ng simbahan.
Huwag nang makisawsaw...
Huwag nang makialam.

At pwede ba...
Pwede ba...
Huwag nang gawing litanya na: BATAS NG SIMBAHAN    "KUNO"


 

[matadoramba]

bahala kayo sa buhay niyo,,,

wala naman ng ididivorce kasi sa hirap ng buhay wala ng nagpapakasal at puro na kayo live in 

Haha! Natawa ako dito, 'Nga naman!

[dark_machine]

A marriage shall be considered only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not virgin, she shall be executed. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21.)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).


Stop quoting from the people, because you dont know your bible. Read your bible.
 

[dark_machine]

I mean, stop quoting from the bible people, because you dont know your bible. Read your bible.

sorry for double post.

[matadoramba]

A marriage shall be considered only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not virgin, she shall be executed. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21.)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).


Stop quoting from the people, because you dont know your bible. Read your bible.
 

Ganda naman neto,  Informative indeed.

[Fiz]

annulment, malaking pera ang paguusapan dyan at maraming taon... plus, makikialam pa ang church.

divorce, mabilis at mapaguusapan ng mas maayos kung anong suporta ang dapat na maibigay  sa babaeng ididiborsyo. city hall at lawyer lang ang kasama sa equation.

Correction po.

Kung civil lang ang kasal wala po pake ang church.  Church lang ay ko-konsensyahin ka lang.

[sphinxavior]

"Gusto kong tanungin ang mga nagsusulong sa divorce bill - Ilang asawa ang pwede kong iwanan? Ilang tahanan ang pwede kong sirain? At ilang anak ang pwede kong iwanan? Tandaan na ang unang biktima ng divorce ay ang mga bata," Archbishop Cruz said.

hindi naman tama na ilagay ang idea ng divorce sa kung ilan ang pwedeng maging asawa at ilang pamilya ang kelangang sirain.it should be available para dun sa mga marital relationships na hindi nagwork out,with sanctions on both side.pero sana rin hindi nga yung idea na porke may divorce ay merong party na anytime makikipaghiwalay na lang.kelangang may restrictions din na halimbawa, kapag nakapagpadivorce na eh hindi na pwedeng makipagdivorce ulit sa susunod na asawa.

hmm tingin ko nawala na pagka makapamilya ng mga Pilipino ngayon... hay.. kawawang bansa...kawawa din ang mga kababaihan....

kawawang bansa?eh di kaawa-awa rin pala ang buong mundo aside for Vatican City, kasi lahat ay may divorce na?


ang shorts mo nung bata ay hindi na kasya sa'yo pag tumanda (unless di ka lumaki). hindi lahat ng meron tayo noong unang panahon ay applicable pa rin sa kung anong meron ngayon.

[neckromancer]

Annul nga mahirap gawin kasi magastos. Divorce pa kaya? As for the children, dapat ilagay sa curriculum ng Batibot iyan tapos gawing primetime ito. Pilitin na pagpanoorin ng Batibot iyung mga magulang. If may time sila.

[HarVy-TwO face]

PRO RH and DIVORCE BILL..this country need changes!